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Old 04-12-2009, 05:29 AM   #1
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Default The 9/11 Truth Movement Starting to Create Big Waves.

Is the tidal wave of truth yet to come?

It wont be long now by the looks of it, the story is breaking in other Countries!!
Danish Prime Time News!



The news cast has been Sub-titled so you don't need sound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6DQjBfbn24


From Danish News the 6th of April 2009 - NIels Harrit, a danish chemist, tell about the breaking find, of the explsive substance nano-thermite, in the dust from WTC.

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen

The article in english : http://911blogger.com/node/19761

Also check out this rally in LA, biggest yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Truj1FNDQA
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Old 04-12-2009, 05:43 AM   #2
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:24 AM   #3
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"Starting to create big waves?" I hope so. The truth MUST come out!

I'll mention another excellent documentary here:

911 In plane site - The Director's Cut

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...directors+cut#

This whole movie use to be on google, was taken down. Now it is in pieces.
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:26 AM   #4
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When one sees a few cockroaches...there is probably a wall full of them. I sure see a lot of 9/11 cockroaches. We want the truth...but are we prepared to deal with extremely upsetting and potentially disruptive information? I long for a world population who can rationally and calmly deal with just about anything. Otherwise...we will continue to be an ammunition depot...ready to go off with the slightest spark. How about worldwide responsibility education? I'm not very responsible...yet I see this as being so important to our evolution. I doubt that 9/11 information will be 'officially' released. Revelations will keep being released by various sources throughout the world...and eventually an official document may be produced to put a calming spin on all of the devastating information. Then there may be some token prosecutions and hand slappings. The 9/11 event may have been so compartmentalized that proving kingpin guilt in court may be very, very difficult.
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Old 04-13-2009, 03:11 AM   #5
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We want the truth...but are we prepared to deal with extremely upsetting and potentially disruptive information?

I long for a world population who can rationally and calmly deal with just about anything. Otherwise...we will continue to be an ammunition depot...ready to go off with the slightest spark.
Yes, I think we have long been ready for the truth. The truth is what sets us free.

It's people's unfounded fears that holds them back. And manipulative rulers... government leaders... church leaders... who think they hold the rights to what can or can not be said.

It takes patriots in all countries who are willing to stand up for what is right, to step forward and speak as to what is the truth. The achievement of freedoms and civil rights have not been achieved by weaklings. Our forefathers worked through unfathomable horrors to achieve what we enjoy today.

The virtue of having courage to acknowledge and speak the truth is what I want every evolving human to achieve.
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:40 AM   #6
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Wow... watching the video you put up about building 7 really hit me... September may be the 9th month, but Sept means 7... two towers and building 7..., is 7-11
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:25 AM   #7
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I personally think it will be horrible if the 911 truth really comes out...

The world will go nuts on AMERICA....

911 will always be in the closet...Period..
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:43 AM   #8
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911 truth is already out.
But are you saying that being used, tricked, and lied to is better and less harmful then knowing the truth?
And why do you think the world would go nuts on America?
You certainly have a unique perspective, I'll give you that, explain in more depth if you could, because I can't see how what you say would be the case.


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The world will go nuts on AMERICA....

911 will always be in the closet...Period..
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:27 PM   #9
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Heh, this thread is deja-vu.

Hasn't this movement been (slowly) gaining steam for 3 years now?
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:47 PM   #10
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Heh, this thread is deja-vu.

Hasn't this movement been (slowly) gaining steam for 3 years now?
Yes, but it has never been talked about on a mainstream news source before.
This is what I have been hoping would happen for some time.
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Wow Kathleen, that is an amazing amount of ignorance, and yes we need to talk about that.
In the same breath however, it would be necessary to consider why we are so convinced of the opposite being true, without any 'hard' evidence either. I have the feeling that if you sum it up, there won't be more evidence for either side.
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Wow Kathleen, that is an amazing amount of ignorance, and yes we need to talk about that.
In the same breath however, it would be necessary to consider why we are so convinced of the opposite being true, without any 'hard' evidence either. I have the feeling that if you sum it up, there won't be more evidence for either side.
your post czymra has number 1111....
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...a calming spin ...
hi orthodoxymoron - it might be difficult. i am personally listening to bach this morning. happy easter. i had ideas though: beam me up, scotty. toto we're not in kansas anymore. second coming (sexually explicit - blacked, below). cat's cradle (1963), slaughterhouse five.



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your post czymra has number 1111....
Ha! I spend too much time online, that's all it means.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:58 PM   #15
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Lets have a look at some of the thoughts above us.

First off - putting nano thermite into the towers after the first bombing so they wouldn't fall side ways.

Guilty of negligent homicide. They knew there was explosives in a building yet informed no one? and then covered that fact up? guilty - 15-20 years, no parole. No one would dare admit that as they would be in court a week later.

That nano thermite is explosive (pun intended) evidence - coupled with the first seismic shock waves from the basement levels, the mid truely boggles on the sheer audacity of it all. There is no excuse for it to be there. Short of doing an okie and finding bombs in the building . . . . .


Building 7. Can any one say 'spy nerve center'? or how about 'financial nerve center' or any of the other uses it had that would make it a reasonable show to say thats where 9-11 went down from, and then it all got erased.

Fraud commited that day. Minutes, seconds before the impacts, massive amounts of illegal trading took place through computers in the WTC buildings. never ever happend before, and has never happend since in their replacements. hhmmm......... add this to put options and insurance claims, its a dodgy ground already.

Oklahoma bombings. People think its not related, but look harder and you will see it possibly is (I say 100% for certain in my mind it was a dry run to see what they could contain and get away with). It was a fabrication from start to finish, and we never did again hear from the munitions expert who was in charge of the US Armies high explosives. he said it was impossible, and firte fighters said there were multiple bombs in the ruins.

In short then, we in the USA and the world got screwed over time and again because they have found us weak, apathetic and avoid confrontations with TPTB.

So they keep doing it over and over again.
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hi orthodoxymoron - it might be difficult. i am personally listening to bach this morning. happy easter. i had ideas though: beam me up, scotty. toto we're not in kansas anymore. second coming (sexually explicit - blacked, below). cat's cradle (1963), slaughterhouse five.



As I did here: 8:59PM April11-09
Side 2 Concerto for 3 harpsicords and strings in c major bwv (allegro, adagio, allegro) (cassette) archiv produktion, the english concert

I appreciate you mentioning Bach. I go for Baroque. I consider Bach to be foundational. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c54Hu...eature=related The music of Bach contains some of the most on target spirituality in existence. Bach, Nature, Exercise, and Rest are 4 of the best ways to increase the level of one's spirituality. The conspiracy stuff is necessary...but tends to tear a person down. I'm trying to find a balance point where I become informed...think independently...yet maintain a positive spirituality which builds up society. I do not want society to become disillusioned, hostile, and frazzled. I guess I would like to see a spiritual and ethical secular society...where people are genuinely good...yet free of any theocratic influences. I don't want a theocracy. I don't want a meocracy. I want a weocracy. I want to witness the exaltation of the human race...an elevation of we the people of the whole world.

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When we know something in our heart of hearts ,thats intuition, and no proof is needed. No one is ever going to give us truth,it must be felt. So, what is a truth movement except a 911 redial. Thats just my two cents.
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I personally think it will be horrible if the 911 truth really comes out...

The world will go nuts on AMERICA....

911 will always be in the closet...Period..
The rest of the world already KNOWS it was an inside job. They are all looking at us wondering when we're gonna get our heads out of our asses and see it. I think they pity us more than anything.
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I shared the findings with my brother, a highly educated businessman, who 'cannot imagine that our government would be involved in something like this'. His statement to me was.
Try this one on him Kathleen. Whether he will admit it or not, at least it will implant knowledge that mainstream news is not always telling the truth.
It's a 10 mintue hard hitting documentary made by 2 fox news reporters who were fired for wanting to tell the truth about the bovine growth hormone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjzdoiL0j4

I find the worst are the ones who say that even if 9/11 was an inside job they don't care and don't want to know, lol


Nice to see some Bach plugs! He rules. When I was younger my dad would often take us skiing, long drive from where we were, and he would crank Bach in the car while we drove. The first music that brought tears to my eyes was Bach's Goldberg Concertos by Glenn Gould on one of those drives. And since then I was hooked.
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When we know something in our heart of hearts ,thats intuition, and no proof is needed. No one is ever going to give us truth,it must be felt. So, what is a truth movement except a 911 redial. Thats just my two cents.
Yes but many people are polarized to ego rather then its opposite intuition/soul. 9/11 is a great way to get people to direct their attention inward and question things.
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:08 PM   #21
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More great news and a win for Truth.
This is joy!

9/11 Commission Counsel: Government Agreed to Lie About 9/11

New book from man tasked by government to help investigate attacks unveils how “official story is almost entirely untrue”

The senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission - John Farmer - says that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11, echoing the assertions of fellow 9/11 Commission members who concluded that the Pentagon were engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack.

Farmer served as Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (officially known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States), and is also a former New Jersey Attorney General.

Farmer’s book about his experiences working for the Commission is entitled The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11, and is set to be released in September.

The book unveils how “the public had been seriously misled about what occurred during the morning of the attacks,” and Farmer himself states that “at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened.”

Only the very naive would dispute that an agreement not to tell the truth is an agreement to lie. Farmer’s contention is that the government agreed to create a phony official version of events to cover-up the real story behind 9/11.

The publisher of the book, Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, states that, “Farmer builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version not only is almost entirely untrue but serves to create a false impression of order and security.”

In August 2006, the Washington Post reported, “Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon’s initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.”

The report revealed how the 10-member commission deeply suspected deception to the point where they considered referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation.

“We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us,” said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. “It was just so far from the truth. . . . It’s one of those loose ends that never got tied.”

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John Farmer

Farmer himself is quoted in the Post article, stating, “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

As we also reported in August 2006, released portions of NORAD tapes from 9/11, which were featured in a Vanity Fair article, do little to answer skeptic’s questions about the impotence of U.S. air defenses on 9/11 and if anything only increase focus on the incompatibility of the official version of events with what is actually known to have taken place on that day.

Make no mistake, Farmer is not saying that 9/11 was an inside job, however, Farmer’s testimony, along with that of his fellow 9/11 Commission members, conclusively demonstrates that, whatever really happened on 9/11, the official story as told to the public on the day and that which remains the authorities’ version of events today, is a lie - according to the very people who were tasked by the government to investigate it. This is a fact that no debunker or government apologist can ever legitimately deny.


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You know there are real terrorist out there. I think it is a bad idea for the government to actually confirm the 911 truth. 10 years of innocent blood shed in over seas. The safety of American citizen is also on the line. Millions of American citizen lives over seas. More so I think the truth will even make the military go crazy on their government.

I know the 911 truth must come out, but I think it should have been done when george w bush was on the office.

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911 will fade away just like the murder of JFK.
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You know there are real terrorist out there. I think it is a bad idea for the government to actually confirm the 911 truth. 10 years of innocent blood shed in over seas. The safety of American citizen is also on the line. Millions of American citizen lives over seas. More so I think the truth will even make the military go crazy on their government.

I know the 911 truth must come out, but I think it should have been done when george w bush was on the office.

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911 will fade away just like the murder of JFK.
I am well aware there are real terrorists out there. But they too already know that we did it just so we could invade Iraq and other nations. I think they also are intelligent enough to realize that the majority of our military is in the dark and think we are doing good.

And as far as our military going crazy on the government, GOOD! I for one would be happy if our generals found this out, and then stopped following orders and pulled the troops out on their own and bring them home. Then they all make a stand and stop this ******** circus of a government we have. When you look at the fact that the top 3 contributors to the Ron Paul campaign were the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force I think it's clear what they all really wanted here, and that's to get the hell out and mind our own business.
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