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Old 06-25-2009, 06:02 AM   #1
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If we are all here for the "experience" then why not still pursue abundance, wealth and success? (yes, i mean all those "things" "this" world has to offer through attraction)

What is everyone doing while you "wait" ?
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:21 PM   #2
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I suppose that depends on how you define success, wealth, and abundance. Each of these can be achieved either as service to self, or as service to others. Each can be achieved either by raping the earth, or by healing the earth. Each can be achieved by controlling others, or by empowering others. Either way, you learn. Do you want the negative lesson, or the positive lesson?
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:35 PM   #3
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If we are all here for the "experience" then why not still pursue abundance, wealth and success? (yes, i mean all those "things" "this" world has to offer through attraction)

What is everyone doing while you "wait" ?
Absolutely...I highly recommend it!
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:24 AM   #4
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Pursue success, wealth, and abundance via constructive competition. We find meaning in life through game playing. It's ok to be poor. It's ok to be rich. It's ok to just be ok. Don't worry about it. Don't hurt yourself or others...trying to be a big-shot. But why should the bad guys and gals have all the cool toys and good times? Success, wealth, and abundance all run like hell when they see me coming. And that's the problem...everyone sees me coming a mile away...
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:35 PM   #5
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If we are all here for the "experience" then why not still pursue abundance, wealth and success? (yes, i mean all those "things" "this" world has to offer through attraction)

What is everyone doing while you "wait" ?

I agree with you, why don't we!

Just from my personal experience, it seems like people just want stuff to happen for them, with out them doing a damn think about it. Note sure if it was David Icke or on the Veritas show but, someone stated that most people know about the 2012 or events that are taking place, but we sit here and wait till the events come, and all we do is talk about why it didn't happen or why it did happen.

Instead or actually doing something now, so this events don't happen or prepare our self, we just sit and wait and just blame / argue about or government, people and our world.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that this world would be such a better place if we all took the time and share abundance, wealth and success.
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:44 PM   #6
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I completely agree MastaYoda!
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:55 PM   #7
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that this world would be such a better place if we all took the time and share abundance, wealth and success.
Well said, Yoda!
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:02 PM   #8
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that this world would be such a better place if we all took the time and share abundance, wealth and success.
Well said, Yoda!

In fact it doesn't require much time.. I've been doing it for some time on my personal, small level...
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Old 06-28-2009, 05:14 PM   #9
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What is everyone doing while you "wait" ?
Just as Burgundia says, I'm creating my own, privat and small, but a completely new world full of success, wealth and abundance...for the whole humanity.

How?

I share success, wealth, abundance and LOVE!!!


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I would rather pursue success, wealth and abundance via constructive co-creation.

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Old 06-28-2009, 11:50 PM   #10
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"Seek first the kingdom of heaven and all will be given unto you"

Meaning, surrender to the higher will within and you will receive all you need. As you overcome your illusions of separation, and your life is more focused on helping others achieve abundance, you will receive more abundance for yourself to help you achieve this goal.

A good example of this is Eckhart Tolle. He is simply following the voice of his higher Self, and in the process, helping many others connect to their higher Selves, and of course, he has more than enough abundance.

Whatever you give out you receive back, so create abundance for others with discernment (not by giving handouts but by helping others prepare for the consciousness shift more like it and bring forth whatever solutions you can to help others make it through any 'birth pains' to the new earth ahead), and you shall receive abundance.

For me, it's about getting back into the divine flow.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:39 AM   #11
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each and everyone has their own lessons or experiences to learn. So seeking success, wealth, and abundance is by choice! or the illusion that has been put in place as part of the lesson.

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Old 06-29-2009, 09:40 AM   #12
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:22 AM   #13
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I suppose that depends on how you define success, wealth, and abundance. Each of these can be achieved either as service to self, or as service to others. Each can be achieved either by raping the earth, or by healing the earth. Each can be achieved by controlling others, or by empowering others. Either way, you learn. Do you want the negative lesson, or the positive lesson?
I have a hard time understanding a negative lesson and positive lesson. Isnt a lesson a good thing ?
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:24 AM   #14
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I agree with you, why don't we!

Just from my personal experience, it seems like people just want stuff to happen for them, with out them doing a damn think about it. Note sure if it was David Icke or on the Veritas show but, someone stated that most people know about the 2012 or events that are taking place, but we sit here and wait till the events come, and all we do is talk about why it didn't happen or why it did happen.

Instead or actually doing something now, so this events don't happen or prepare our self, we just sit and wait and just blame / argue about or government, people and our world.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that this world would be such a better place if we all took the time and share abundance, wealth and success.
well said...

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Old 06-30-2009, 07:28 AM   #15
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"Seek first the kingdom of heaven and all will be given unto you"

Meaning, surrender to the higher will within and you will receive all you need. As you overcome your illusions of separation, and your life is more focused on helping others achieve abundance, you will receive more abundance for yourself to help you achieve this goal.

A good example of this is Eckhart Tolle. He is simply following the voice of his higher Self, and in the process, helping many others connect to their higher Selves, and of course, he has more than enough abundance.

Whatever you give out you receive back, so create abundance for others with discernment (not by giving handouts but by helping others prepare for the consciousness shift more like it and bring forth whatever solutions you can to help others make it through any 'birth pains' to the new earth ahead), and you shall receive abundance.

For me, it's about getting back into the divine flow.
Yes, I like what you have said... I try and stay away from "supporting" the victim/victimizer mentality. When do you say "no" to those who plee for a penny?
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:31 AM   #16
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each and everyone has their own lessons or experiences to learn. So seeking success, wealth, and abundance is by choice! or the illusion that has been put in place as part of the lesson.
I can see how money (false system) is misleading however, the illusion is not the money, abundance and success; the illusion could maybe be the 'attachement' of it.
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Response: I would rather pursue success, wealth and abundance via constructive co-creation. malletzky

malletzky: You just engaged in constructive competition with me. You disagreed with me...and told me so. You challenged what I had to say. This was not positive reinforcement. It was constructive competition...which is fine with me. Anyone who conducts business is engaging in competition. We seem to be very 'all or nothing' regarding this subject. How about a happy medium?
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I'm happy with what I've done with my life so far. If it were to end tomorrow, I'd have no regrets.

While I can, I continue to push myself and see where I can go.
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malletzky: You just engaged in constructive competition with me. You disagreed with me...and told me so. You challenged what I had to say. This was not positive reinforcement. It was constructive competition...which is fine with me. Anyone who conducts business is engaging in competition. We seem to be very 'all or nothing' regarding this subject. How about a happy medium?

OM: on one side, you're right. As soon as we engage in some conversations, no matter what, we're kind of competing, as each one of us would naturaly tend to enforce his own opinion over the other.

But on the other side, I highly tend to avoid such situations. I highly respect other opinions and I let everyone do and think whatever they please. I only compete in sports, but I see sports as a game, not as a competition.

That's why, as you might've noticed, I stated above that "I WOULD RATHER..." instead of "YOU SHOULD..."

Simple and easy: you do what you think is wright, I do what I think is right. Nevertheless, we're BOTH RIGHT


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Old 06-30-2009, 04:28 PM   #20
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I can see how money (false system) is misleading however, the illusion is not the money, abundance and success; the illusion could maybe be the 'attachment' of it.
When I look at all....Isn't it all about control.

I have something that I can use to make you do what I say.

The master and slave mentality.

We work because someone has money that I can indenture myself to obtain so I can feel like I have control over my living space...control to buy toys....control over what I drive.

Maybe if we were just in control of ourselves...maybe that's the answer...control over our emotions.....feelings...desires. I'm the one that makes my choices....not envying someone because they have something I don't....I have CONTROL over me.....and you don't.

Maybe I have everything if I have that ....hmm maybe
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When do you say "no" to those who plee for a penny?

I would say when it will not help them learn how to help themselves. Only give fish in an emergency, always teach how to fish before you give fish. If the recipient refuses to learn, then let them on their way.

We are not put on this planet just to get by, we are here to become More. So if your handout is not helping the recipient become More as a being, then it can actually cause more harm than good.

The fact is, you are responsible for what you give to others karmically. If you give a beggar a hundred dollars and he uses it on drugs, he has used energy you have given him to do so, and you've actually created karma in that case!

So when you give, give with discernment, that's my 'two cents'.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:03 AM   #22
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I would say when it will not help them learn how to help themselves. Only give fish in an emergency, always teach how to fish before you give fish. If the recipient refuses to learn, then let them on their way.

We are not put on this planet just to get by, we are here to become More. So if your handout is not helping the recipient become More as a being, then it can actually cause more harm than good.

The fact is, you are responsible for what you give to others karmically. If you give a beggar a hundred dollars and he uses it on drugs, he has used energy you have given him to do so, and you've actually created karma in that case!

So when you give, give with discernment, that's my 'two cents'.
actually... what you have said is brilliant
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