Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? - Page 2

TRANCOSO · 10-22-2009, 07:37 AM

This guy scares the sh.t out of me. I'm reading the e book & all of a sudden a lot of pieces of the puzzle fall in place.

Stargazer1965 · 10-22-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

This guy scares the sh.t out of me. I'm reading the e book & all of a sudden a lot of pieces of the puzzle fall in place.

Can you put them together for us??

TRANCOSO · 10-22-2009, 02:35 PM

I've got 100 more pages to go. When I'm finished I'll try to put the puzzle together.

eleni · 10-22-2009, 04:12 PM

Tran- I feel the same way- many pieces of puzzle falling into place- I still have many pages to go.
Here's one thing that creeps me out, before I read the PDF or knew anything about this guy- I had a strong telepathic experience- it went like this:

I got the *information* that this guy is behind the AI surveillance system-
I have had a direct experience with the AI system and it freaked me out- in fact I haven't been the same since. I can't describe more(about the AI experience) because it will *out* some people but let me just say that it was one of the most disturbing *encounters* (for lack of a better word) I've experienced.

So when I reading the PDF last night it says he is behind such a system- well it was somewhat of a confirmation to me that this information should not be taken lightly.

There is more to say about it as well but I haven't finished reading it all yet.

John aka#404 · 10-22-2009, 08:47 PM

Focus on that which you want.

conec · 11-07-2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIIISH

It is my opinion that the second coming of Christ will manifest as Christ consciousness (love and light), and the anti-Christ can be anyone or anything that is opposed to that.

Ya I think the anti-christ isnt a person but an energy, the ant-christos energy.
And the second coming of christ or of any prophet is really the return of the golden age.

TRANCOSO · 11-08-2009, 05:53 AM

I downloaded it too but only skim read it... ...and was surprised in all my NWO/Illuminati research i hadn't come across this twerp b4!

So was I, Barron, that's why I was very sceptical about the story. But while I was reading the book/pdf, it came to my mind that Wes Penre, the writer of the book, wouldn't have put so much effort in writing this, unless he thought it was a 'hot' topic & important that as many people as possible should have access to it.

Most of the info about the Thule/VRIL stuff is, as far as I know, correct. As a matter of fact, I didn't find any 'flaws' in his story. It's a well written, well documented book. And it's for free!

So if people like you & me never came across Supriem David Rockefeller's name, let alone the less informed on this topic. Therefore the argument it's a hoax or disinfo, which of course also came to my mind, just doesn't make sense.

Again, I don't know what to think of it, but it sure woke me up.

eleni · 11-08-2009, 10:48 PM

I don't think Wes's research is a hoax- I think Supriem is- I am perplexed as to why people are taking this guy seriously.......

Moxie · 11-09-2009, 06:29 AM

Check out the Endnote of Chapter 2 from Messiah or Anti-Christ link that started this thread. Footnote 2 which reads:

"[2] If you follow this link it will take you to a very disturbing website, supposedly written by an alien being from the star system Antares. If this information is correct, we certainly are in trouble, and I can see what Supriem is talking about when he says he needs to “prove himself” to save mankind, or we are toast, literally, or someone’s dinner… "

here's the link to the home page:
http://www.betweendeath.com/?p=1#comment-132

Here's a cut n paste taken from the Q & A, as it has to do with this Supriem Rockefeller.

#

Hi, Lucy! I’m reading your website with great interest. I have some questions, if you don’t mind. As you know, there are many similar topics on the Internet such as where we came from, who made humans, etc. What do you think of the Annuanki? Have you heard about a man named Supriem Rockefeller who claims to be Lucifer redeemed? If so, what are your thoughts on him? Finally, what are your thoughts on Scientology? I’m very curious to hear what you have to say about these subjects. Thanks so much for your time and for creating this website!

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LEUCEDENDRA
Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

Dear Joanne,

I am delighted to answer your questions one by one.

WE collectively created the genetic blueprint including the biomarkers and timelines for the evolutionary track from single-celled organisms such as the amoeba to the point that human beings on earth have evolved into to date. Each planetary system has been fashioned slightly differently in order to render the most suitable adaption to surviving life in that particular environment. The ratio of water to oxygen was the factor propelling development of life on earth. Evolution PROVES that WE created this environment. God never would have built a world where every time you humans have to eat, some plant or animal has to die. I say “we” created it because the plan to design the physical universe originated long before it ever existed and those who recycle here through human rebirthing have become trapped by their very creation.

The “Annunaki” is a religious myth. God never created “perfect angels”, “imperfect angels” or any spiritual entity in a hierarchy. WE all separated from Infinity with the identical blueprint of equality known as free will. We attempted to “out-god God” by creating worlds which included arbitrary paradoxes such as matter and time. Matter can never be created or destroyed, just transformed; but that does not prevent the infusion of energy within it (genetic life) from dying. Forever exists without time, so we killed it by creating a time stream. There has never been “hybridization” between spiritual lifeforms and physical lifeforms as the false theory of the Annunaki promotes. Even when we Antareans improved the DNA on your planet, it was one more advanced form of physical life (telepathic) infusing “better DNA” into the lesser forms (the verbals or humans).

The Wes Penre “Supriem Rockerfeller” nonsense is nothing more than a pretentious protest against “globalism” and the “new world order”. I have repeated ad infinitum that “Lucifer” is a figment of human imagination in the most self-destructive sense. The idea of a “devil” is a control mechanism that has been used by organized religion for the last 6,000 years. It amuses us Antareans that prior to that time, no such fictional character existed. There is no human “messiah”, and never has been, although Menachem Mendel Schneerson (1902-1994) was both telepathic and clairvoyant and was the closest human to taking on the role of one in human form, much to his credit.

The only one who can prevent you from being part of the harvest is YOU.

L. Ron Hubbard learned a great deal about life from an Antarean woman named Scarabine who was with us on the ship and landed with us in Roswell, New Mexico. She lived in Los Angeles and Mr. Hubbard befriended her in 1948; having met her through a woman named Sarah Northrup who Mr. Hubbard later married.

Mr. Hubbard learned a great deal about telepathy and moving out of the body, and there is a lot of useful and very practical Antarean knowledge within his writings which he repackaged as a religion known as Scientology which was first known as a science of the mind called Dianetics. Mr. Hubbard fully understood that the soul or spiritual entity operates the genetic body. He easily grasped Antarean wisdom.

What we objected to was the fact that Mr. Hubbard later began to charge exhoritant fees for the information, since truth should be provided freely as I have done on this web site. Mr. Hubbard also created a false mythology and interwove it into his science fiction writings which preyed upon human fears and weaknesses. That being said, Scientology nevertheless does offer extremely valid courses (at outrageous prices) on the art and science of leaving the body (exteriorization), but has failed to promote a global telepathic consciousness for all humanity (as he originally promised Scarabine he would do). Much of the efforts of Scientology since the death of Mr. Hubbard has been dedicated to preventing the technology of leaving the body from being duplicated through a paramilitary legal quagmire of copyright litigation. The proper action would have been to enable all of humanity to reach higher states of awareness; not only the select few who are financially able to pay for it or those recruited employees who are willing to sacrifice their personal freedom to learn it.

Scientology does not refer to God directly, but instead calls God “the eighth dynamic”, or the urge to survive as Infinity. It contains a great deal of truth but is only one slice of a highly hidden pie. Ironically, it would take a speed reader five to seven years to synthesize and extract the information provided on this web site if one had to plough through all of the prolific writings of Mr. Hubbard. But to their credit, I know of no other resource on earth which is better equipped to teach a non-telepathic human how to move outside the genetic vessel than the courses offered by Scientology, although the cost for the information is rather excessive.

Thank you, Joanne, for your kind comments and clarity of heart in your quest for knowledge. You are a thoughtful person and I like you.

Lucy

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Excuse me if I've over pasted text... you guys really ought to check out this website, it has some really great humor as well as alot of information from this ET/alien Antarean named Lucy ... may have to start a new thread. There is a whole new explanation of the Harvest... I find it quite riveting!

Moxie · 11-09-2009, 06:44 AM

Lucy has some words about Hidden Hand as well as this Wes Penre:

"Hidden Hand is another identity/personality used by Wes Penre. If you carefully compare the writings of “Supriem Rockeffeler” with “Hidden Hand”, you will see they have been written by the same person, Mr. Wes Penre. It is another explanation of globalism interwoven with random prophecy not based upon anything tangible. He has nothing to do with us in any way, shape or form. His ramblings about “Lucifer” and the wrong-date Mayan Calendar and the sub-gods who created the earth demonstrate that. WE created the physical universe. Infinity (God) did NOT. All of the traps of human consciousness have been planted as bad seeds by humans themselves.

Someone should tell Mr. Wes Penre that San Francisco will be quite livable throughout 2010 (despite the ridiculous prophecy of Mr. Hand that it will be uninhabitable). I own a lovely home in Seacliff (that I do not visit nearly enough) which I have no intention of selling because of any of this nonsense. Actor Robin Williams has been one of my fondest neighbors for years."

Lucy

lisa · 01-08-2010, 06:55 PM

Looks like Michael Noel Prescott is becoming more active this year. He has uploaded three Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThirdProphet
Apparently, he is speaking for the Thule Society and they are working very hard to make the prophecies come true. It is almost comical that their "prophecies" are not self-fulfilling, but require "hard work" to come true.

Wonder who the first two prophets were.
He wants people to give up their free will.

trainedobserver · 01-08-2010, 07:24 PM

This is a perfect example of what I have come to think of as a "faux-reality show."

eleni · 01-08-2010, 08:10 PM

Charlatans......through and through........no different from the idiots in power but Supriem et al is plain comical......

Antonia · 10-22-2009, 09:25 PM

If he is the host for the soul of Marduk/Lucifer.... then he was just an Annunaki Prince, like Enki and Enlil... who tried to take over and failed... vowing to come back!!
Right now with the zero time, Nexus wave and the various degrees or posabilities of assention that will open to us in the next decade,around 2012, I would say every one is comming back... incarnating to be here for the drama
Every one wants a piece of the action and some want mankind to succeed some want us to fail, some awnt to inprison our soul energy and use it for their own gains, others want us to suceed because it will affect them and their race in a positive way... a few geuinely want us to succeed purely because they are full of love and that seems like a nice outcome for us.....

On more reflection, he probably is hosting the soul of the deposed Marduk/Lucifer, sounds very like the Marduk in The Summerian Tablets of creation, he raised a huge army and tried to take over the planet... His family and Anu were not pleased!

Maybe he's had a few thousand years to contimplate and he's become a nicer person and really does want to help humanity, only he still has the large ego and the urge to be adored and worshiped....
May be he should have become a movie star or a rock star... he could have experianced that ... in that way...

The main thing is the Elite are trying everything they can to sabatage our DNA reconstruction which is going on as we speak... there are many who have the thripple helix and to get through the D12 gate for the ultimate assention we need many on the planet with the fourth strand recionstructed.

It doesn't suprise me that he says he controles the D12 gate...
As it has been anounced that the D12 gate had indeed fallen to the Elite, but other plans are a foot, so all is not lost...

Any how... he may huff and puff all he wants and who knows do some good as well as ride out his own ego trip... the best of luck to him but...

ultimately each one of is is soverign and our own savior and we only have our selves to get us the hell out of Doge... if we so chose so I'm waiting for the Nexus wave. avoiding the flue shot and woking on some good vibes and light to help prepare my DNA for the Wave, then try and help others who want evolve too....

But I still think the Supreim drama, if he goes more public, will cause some good entertainment along the way... sort of like Ben in Lost, we wont know whether to love him or hate him.... and the plot continually thikining!!!

eleni · 10-22-2009, 09:41 PM

The following which everyone would have read if they read the Supriem PDF may shed more light on numerous matters. Reminds me of the *Bloodline Insider* for several years back which also rang true for me.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

Antonia · 10-22-2009, 09:55 PM

You have the right idea Ortho...

eleni · 10-22-2009, 11:44 PM

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eleni · 10-23-2009, 03:48 AM

"Even the element symbol for gold is the same for the Allied Union, AU. I told you before
everyday Supriem ingests a white powder that is gold, platinum and 68 other trace elements
in their monatomic state. It also contains sea bed deposits.
The other two he takes is a pure white gold powder, once called the Philosopher’s Stone
and the other is a white gooey liquid that is pure Platinum Suspension. It helps keep his
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Supriem Rockefeller – Messiah or AntiChrist?
body very electrically charged and his brain firing at 100%. He also said that’s why alcohol
doesn’t harm him, it’s burned off very quickly. "

Looks like the guy is an alcoholic from what I've been reading. Again some wannabe- a *real* bloodliner would treat their physical vehicle differently.
And no amount of monoatomic gold can make up for it. Maybe he needs a consult with David Wolfe?

I'll say it again- those who are the elite ruling families (portrayed to the public ) are not that smart about their physical vehicles (taking care of them).

swordsmith · 10-23-2009, 07:48 AM

I think they are not actually appreciative of anything, even their physical body, in ts unaltered state. Corruption is the name of the game.
Look at Henry Kissinger , he is a walking liver spot, but otherwise he appears not to have aged. These " people " think they have an answer and a technology for every purpose. I'm sure they think they have a spare part for whatever goes wrong. Borg lovers... sheesh, if they really connected to the natural world through their bodies it would be much harder for them to do what they do , but they arent wired that way.
Alcoholism is rather a common trait for these types, they think they are above it, too. Ha ha.
Anyway, I am not impressed with supriem, even if he does have a natty name spelling and a very big ring, what a ******. Honestly, these people look like jokers , especially his little toady friend. Short man syndrome if ever.... still playing dress up.
These fools are running scared when they have a moment of clarity, I'd drink too !

TRANCOSO · 10-24-2009, 10:04 PM

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Supriem Bank and TrustCompany. (Supriem) signed a exclusive Global Agreement with Global FranTech Group & FranTech Indonesia, FranTech), of Jakarta, Indonesia, which grants FranTech the right to market Supriem (Bank & Trust Company) licenses for ‘The Future of Banking Worldwide’ programs through FranTech's network of agents in 220 countries to governments and enterprises around the world. The company explained that the Supriem Bank and Trust will offer the Allied Unit, the world union and their unified global currency. Supriem Bank & Trust Company) will be an International Bank & clearing house located in the Caribbean with a online banking license to service depositors in 220 countries. The bank will hold a A Class banking license which will be unrestricted global online banking ‘Bank in the Sky’. Supriem Standard Services (Government) AU programs are uniquely suited to meet the needs of third world countries, clients and emerging growth banks and companies in most countries.

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With relationships, including but not limited to, the Bank for International Settlements, International Monetary Fund & the World Bank, S.D. Rockefeller Holdings, Ltd. brings to Supriem (Bank and Trust Company) a foundation of financial strength unparalleled by any new bank entering into the international banking market in decades, as well, one of the oldest & trusted names in world banking. S.D. Rockefeller Holdings. Ltd. is a private asset management firm with over $10 trillion under management which provides a wide range of services to a substantial & diversified client base, which includes corporations, financial institutions, high net worth individuals & select governments worldwide.

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eleni · 10-24-2009, 10:28 PM

Tran- I read that (as part of the pdf) however I am still not convinced (I was at first) the more I looked into it (the amateur home videos for example).

What are your thoughts so far (mine are subject to change and right now I think he is an imposter claiming to be Supriem).......I could we wrong.......

If this is true it's very frightening (and SD needs a better wardrobe as well as camera).

One aspect that has not come true is the Allied Unit.If that happens I will start worrying (not really- I have given this all over to love/source energy and I believe in karma and they will reap what they sow).

Edited to say just found this- off to read it- gotta love a lazy Saturday!

http://primarysources.newsvine.com/_...oax?groupId=86

And Makow's take:
http://www.henrymakow.com/playboy_lu...launch_be.html

TRANCOSO · 10-25-2009, 01:21 AM

I believe anything but I won't let it ruin my mood. The more you know, the better you're prepared to read the signs inbetween the lines.
I wonder what the '13 Families' think of this. From what I understand, one way or the other, they're gonna lose their power monopoly.
The 'secret' VRIL & THULE Societies are certainly to be taken serious, as history has already teached us. They were behind the rise of Adolf Hitler & during the Nazi period in Germany, from 1933 untill 1945, they were the only Secret Society that was not forbidden & whose members didn't end up in concentration camps.
I think the pdf/book 'Supriem David Rockefeller: Messiah or Anti Christ?' is a 'must read', not in the least because it contains a lot of information, is written by a non religious person, (as contrasted with 'The Dulce Papers' by 'Branton', who is the worst kind of new born Christian) and the book reads like a Dan Brown novel;
Whether it's true or not, we'll soon find out.

eleni · 10-25-2009, 01:47 AM

I know that has been said (they will lose their monopoly) however I don't see it happening......they have infiltrated into every sector of society- they are not just a bunch of European old men (and women I might add) as David Wilcock says.......it would take an act of divine will (which I am rooting for/meditating on/praying for) to bring them down......

Yes, if Wes was indeed communicating with authentic Thule members it's very disturbing however there are some *red flags* as to this SD's behavior.

I can try to get some info through the lines of people (my friends) who are friends with David sr daughter ( I used to live near her and her children went to my children's school- David sr. even came to the school to give a talk) to see if I can gain any information as to the authenticity of this guy.

Her:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eileen_Rockefeller_Growald

eleni · 10-25-2009, 03:40 AM

Supposed modern picture of Maria Orsic? If so for a 70 something year old she looks very well!!!

And if this is her then this story is falling apart at it's seams.....

http://hollowearthexpedition.pbworks.com/Maria-Orsic

Or is this her?

oops- having issues posting it

TRANCOSO · 10-25-2009, 04:41 AM

What the age of the woman on the picture (the alleged Maria Orsic) is, remains a mystery. I couldn't find any indication of her age in the article, nor that it was a "supposed modern picture of Maria Orsic." You're just presuming that, eleni. Or did I miss something?

10-22-2009, 07:37 AM	#1
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? This guy scares the sh.t out of me. I'm reading the e book & all of a sudden a lot of pieces of the puzzle fall in place.

10-22-2009, 02:35 PM	#3
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? I've got 100 more pages to go. When I'm finished I'll try to put the puzzle together.

10-22-2009, 08:47 PM	#5
John aka#404 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 339	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? Focus on that which you want.

11-08-2009, 05:53 AM	#7
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? I downloaded it too but only skim read it... ...and was surprised in all my NWO/Illuminati research i hadn't come across this twerp b4! So was I, Barron, that's why I was very sceptical about the story. But while I was reading the book/pdf, it came to my mind that Wes Penre, the writer of the book, wouldn't have put so much effort in writing this, unless he thought it was a 'hot' topic & important that as many people as possible should have access to it. Most of the info about the Thule/VRIL stuff is, as far as I know, correct. As a matter of fact, I didn't find any 'flaws' in his story. It's a well written, well documented book. And it's for free! So if people like you & me never came across Supriem David Rockefeller's name, let alone the less informed on this topic. Therefore the argument it's a hoax or disinfo, which of course also came to my mind, just doesn't make sense. Again, I don't know what to think of it, but it sure woke me up.

11-08-2009, 10:48 PM	#8
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? I don't think Wes's research is a hoax- I think Supriem is- I am perplexed as to why people are taking this guy seriously.......

10-22-2009, 04:12 PM	#4
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? Tran- I feel the same way- many pieces of puzzle falling into place- I still have many pages to go. Here's one thing that creeps me out, before I read the PDF or knew anything about this guy- I had a strong telepathic experience- it went like this: I got the information that this guy is behind the AI surveillance system- I have had a direct experience with the AI system and it freaked me out- in fact I haven't been the same since. I can't describe more(about the AI experience) because it will out some people but let me just say that it was one of the most disturbing encounters (for lack of a better word) I've experienced. So when I reading the PDF last night it says he is behind such a system- well it was somewhat of a confirmation to me that this information should not be taken lightly. There is more to say about it as well but I haven't finished reading it all yet.

11-09-2009, 06:29 AM	#9
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? Check out the Endnote of Chapter 2 from Messiah or Anti-Christ link that started this thread. Footnote 2 which reads: "[2] If you follow this link it will take you to a very disturbing website, supposedly written by an alien being from the star system Antares. If this information is correct, we certainly are in trouble, and I can see what Supriem is talking about when he says he needs to “prove himself” to save mankind, or we are toast, literally, or someone’s dinner… " here's the link to the home page: http://www.betweendeath.com/?p=1#comment-132 Here's a cut n paste taken from the Q & A, as it has to do with this Supriem Rockefeller. # Hi, Lucy! I’m reading your website with great interest. I have some questions, if you don’t mind. As you know, there are many similar topics on the Internet such as where we came from, who made humans, etc. What do you think of the Annuanki? Have you heard about a man named Supriem Rockefeller who claims to be Lucifer redeemed? If so, what are your thoughts on him? Finally, what are your thoughts on Scientology? I’m very curious to hear what you have to say about these subjects. Thanks so much for your time and for creating this website! # LEUCEDENDRA Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:02 pm \| Permalink Dear Joanne, I am delighted to answer your questions one by one. WE collectively created the genetic blueprint including the biomarkers and timelines for the evolutionary track from single-celled organisms such as the amoeba to the point that human beings on earth have evolved into to date. Each planetary system has been fashioned slightly differently in order to render the most suitable adaption to surviving life in that particular environment. The ratio of water to oxygen was the factor propelling development of life on earth. Evolution PROVES that WE created this environment. God never would have built a world where every time you humans have to eat, some plant or animal has to die. I say “we” created it because the plan to design the physical universe originated long before it ever existed and those who recycle here through human rebirthing have become trapped by their very creation. The “Annunaki” is a religious myth. God never created “perfect angels”, “imperfect angels” or any spiritual entity in a hierarchy. WE all separated from Infinity with the identical blueprint of equality known as free will. We attempted to “out-god God” by creating worlds which included arbitrary paradoxes such as matter and time. Matter can never be created or destroyed, just transformed; but that does not prevent the infusion of energy within it (genetic life) from dying. Forever exists without time, so we killed it by creating a time stream. There has never been “hybridization” between spiritual lifeforms and physical lifeforms as the false theory of the Annunaki promotes. Even when we Antareans improved the DNA on your planet, it was one more advanced form of physical life (telepathic) infusing “better DNA” into the lesser forms (the verbals or humans). The Wes Penre “Supriem Rockerfeller” nonsense is nothing more than a pretentious protest against “globalism” and the “new world order”. I have repeated ad infinitum that “Lucifer” is a figment of human imagination in the most self-destructive sense. The idea of a “devil” is a control mechanism that has been used by organized religion for the last 6,000 years. It amuses us Antareans that prior to that time, no such fictional character existed. There is no human “messiah”, and never has been, although Menachem Mendel Schneerson (1902-1994) was both telepathic and clairvoyant and was the closest human to taking on the role of one in human form, much to his credit. The only one who can prevent you from being part of the harvest is YOU. L. Ron Hubbard learned a great deal about life from an Antarean woman named Scarabine who was with us on the ship and landed with us in Roswell, New Mexico. She lived in Los Angeles and Mr. Hubbard befriended her in 1948; having met her through a woman named Sarah Northrup who Mr. Hubbard later married. Mr. Hubbard learned a great deal about telepathy and moving out of the body, and there is a lot of useful and very practical Antarean knowledge within his writings which he repackaged as a religion known as Scientology which was first known as a science of the mind called Dianetics. Mr. Hubbard fully understood that the soul or spiritual entity operates the genetic body. He easily grasped Antarean wisdom. What we objected to was the fact that Mr. Hubbard later began to charge exhoritant fees for the information, since truth should be provided freely as I have done on this web site. Mr. Hubbard also created a false mythology and interwove it into his science fiction writings which preyed upon human fears and weaknesses. That being said, Scientology nevertheless does offer extremely valid courses (at outrageous prices) on the art and science of leaving the body (exteriorization), but has failed to promote a global telepathic consciousness for all humanity (as he originally promised Scarabine he would do). Much of the efforts of Scientology since the death of Mr. Hubbard has been dedicated to preventing the technology of leaving the body from being duplicated through a paramilitary legal quagmire of copyright litigation. The proper action would have been to enable all of humanity to reach higher states of awareness; not only the select few who are financially able to pay for it or those recruited employees who are willing to sacrifice their personal freedom to learn it. Scientology does not refer to God directly, but instead calls God “the eighth dynamic”, or the urge to survive as Infinity. It contains a great deal of truth but is only one slice of a highly hidden pie. Ironically, it would take a speed reader five to seven years to synthesize and extract the information provided on this web site if one had to plough through all of the prolific writings of Mr. Hubbard. But to their credit, I know of no other resource on earth which is better equipped to teach a non-telepathic human how to move outside the genetic vessel than the courses offered by Scientology, although the cost for the information is rather excessive. Thank you, Joanne, for your kind comments and clarity of heart in your quest for knowledge. You are a thoughtful person and I like you. Lucy ******* Excuse me if I've over pasted text... you guys really ought to check out this website, it has some really great humor as well as alot of information from this ET/alien Antarean named Lucy ... may have to start a new thread. There is a whole new explanation of the Harvest... I find it quite riveting!

11-09-2009, 06:44 AM	#10
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? Lucy has some words about Hidden Hand as well as this Wes Penre: "Hidden Hand is another identity/personality used by Wes Penre. If you carefully compare the writings of “Supriem Rockeffeler” with “Hidden Hand”, you will see they have been written by the same person, Mr. Wes Penre. It is another explanation of globalism interwoven with random prophecy not based upon anything tangible. He has nothing to do with us in any way, shape or form. His ramblings about “Lucifer” and the wrong-date Mayan Calendar and the sub-gods who created the earth demonstrate that. WE created the physical universe. Infinity (God) did NOT. All of the traps of human consciousness have been planted as bad seeds by humans themselves. Someone should tell Mr. Wes Penre that San Francisco will be quite livable throughout 2010 (despite the ridiculous prophecy of Mr. Hand that it will be uninhabitable). I own a lovely home in Seacliff (that I do not visit nearly enough) which I have no intention of selling because of any of this nonsense. Actor Robin Williams has been one of my fondest neighbors for years." Lucy

01-08-2010, 06:55 PM	#11
lisa Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bay Area, USA Posts: 118	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? Looks like Michael Noel Prescott is becoming more active this year. He has uploaded three Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThirdProphet Apparently, he is speaking for the Thule Society and they are working very hard to make the prophecies come true. It is almost comical that their "prophecies" are not self-fulfilling, but require "hard work" to come true. Wonder who the first two prophets were. He wants people to give up their free will. Last edited by lisa; 01-08-2010 at 07:10 PM.

01-08-2010, 07:24 PM	#12
trainedobserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 284	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? This is a perfect example of what I have come to think of as a "faux-reality show."

01-08-2010, 08:10 PM	#13
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? Charlatans......through and through........no different from the idiots in power but Supriem et al is plain comical......

10-22-2009, 09:25 PM	#14
Antonia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dublin , Ireland Posts: 341	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? If he is the host for the soul of Marduk/Lucifer.... then he was just an Annunaki Prince, like Enki and Enlil... who tried to take over and failed... vowing to come back!! Right now with the zero time, Nexus wave and the various degrees or posabilities of assention that will open to us in the next decade,around 2012, I would say every one is comming back... incarnating to be here for the drama Every one wants a piece of the action and some want mankind to succeed some want us to fail, some awnt to inprison our soul energy and use it for their own gains, others want us to suceed because it will affect them and their race in a positive way... a few geuinely want us to succeed purely because they are full of love and that seems like a nice outcome for us..... On more reflection, he probably is hosting the soul of the deposed Marduk/Lucifer, sounds very like the Marduk in The Summerian Tablets of creation, he raised a huge army and tried to take over the planet... His family and Anu were not pleased! Maybe he's had a few thousand years to contimplate and he's become a nicer person and really does want to help humanity, only he still has the large ego and the urge to be adored and worshiped.... May be he should have become a movie star or a rock star... he could have experianced that ... in that way... The main thing is the Elite are trying everything they can to sabatage our DNA reconstruction which is going on as we speak... there are many who have the thripple helix and to get through the D12 gate for the ultimate assention we need many on the planet with the fourth strand recionstructed. It doesn't suprise me that he says he controles the D12 gate... As it has been anounced that the D12 gate had indeed fallen to the Elite, but other plans are a foot, so all is not lost... Any how... he may huff and puff all he wants and who knows do some good as well as ride out his own ego trip... the best of luck to him but... ultimately each one of is is soverign and our own savior and we only have our selves to get us the hell out of Doge... if we so chose so I'm waiting for the Nexus wave. avoiding the flue shot and woking on some good vibes and light to help prepare my DNA for the Wave, then try and help others who want evolve too.... But I still think the Supreim drama, if he goes more public, will cause some good entertainment along the way... sort of like Ben in Lost, we wont know whether to love him or hate him.... and the plot continually thikining!!!

10-22-2009, 09:41 PM	#15
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? The following which everyone would have read if they read the Supriem PDF may shed more light on numerous matters. Reminds me of the Bloodline Insider for several years back which also rang true for me. http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

10-22-2009, 09:55 PM	#16
Antonia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dublin , Ireland Posts: 341	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? You have the right idea Ortho...

10-22-2009, 11:44 PM	#17
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? deleted Last edited by eleni; 10-22-2009 at 11:50 PM.

10-23-2009, 03:48 AM	#18
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? "Even the element symbol for gold is the same for the Allied Union, AU. I told you before everyday Supriem ingests a white powder that is gold, platinum and 68 other trace elements in their monatomic state. It also contains sea bed deposits. The other two he takes is a pure white gold powder, once called the Philosopher’s Stone and the other is a white gooey liquid that is pure Platinum Suspension. It helps keep his - 120 - Supriem Rockefeller – Messiah or AntiChrist? body very electrically charged and his brain firing at 100%. He also said that’s why alcohol doesn’t harm him, it’s burned off very quickly. " Looks like the guy is an alcoholic from what I've been reading. Again some wannabe- a real bloodliner would treat their physical vehicle differently. And no amount of monoatomic gold can make up for it. Maybe he needs a consult with David Wolfe? I'll say it again- those who are the elite ruling families (portrayed to the public ) are not that smart about their physical vehicles (taking care of them).

10-23-2009, 07:48 AM	#19
swordsmith Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south east uk Posts: 379	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? I think they are not actually appreciative of anything, even their physical body, in ts unaltered state. Corruption is the name of the game. Look at Henry Kissinger , he is a walking liver spot, but otherwise he appears not to have aged. These " people " think they have an answer and a technology for every purpose. I'm sure they think they have a spare part for whatever goes wrong. Borg lovers... sheesh, if they really connected to the natural world through their bodies it would be much harder for them to do what they do , but they arent wired that way. Alcoholism is rather a common trait for these types, they think they are above it, too. Ha ha. Anyway, I am not impressed with supriem, even if he does have a natty name spelling and a very big ring, what a *****. Honestly, these people look like jokers , especially his little toady friend. Short man syndrome if ever.... still playing dress up. These fools are running scared when they have a moment of clarity, I'd drink too ! Last edited by swordsmith; 10-23-2009 at 07:58 AM.*

10-24-2009, 10:04 PM	#20
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? S.D. Rockefeller Holdings, Ltd 'Supriem Bank and Trust' to be Licensed by Global FranTech Group Supriem Bank and TrustCompany. (Supriem) signed a exclusive Global Agreement with Global FranTech Group & FranTech Indonesia, FranTech), of Jakarta, Indonesia, which grants FranTech the right to market Supriem (Bank & Trust Company) licenses for ‘The Future of Banking Worldwide’ programs through FranTech's network of agents in 220 countries to governments and enterprises around the world. The company explained that the Supriem Bank and Trust will offer the Allied Unit, the world union and their unified global currency. Supriem Bank & Trust Company) will be an International Bank & clearing house located in the Caribbean with a online banking license to service depositors in 220 countries. The bank will hold a A Class banking license which will be unrestricted global online banking ‘Bank in the Sky’. Supriem Standard Services (Government) AU programs are uniquely suited to meet the needs of third world countries, clients and emerging growth banks and companies in most countries. Supriem Rockefeller, known for his work in artificial intelligence (AI) in global currency, option markets, development of international private insurance annuities & charitable trust, has now turned his attention to providing worldwide private banking services for the individual accessible from any worldwide location, using any telecommunication device, at any time of the day or night with the latest in biometric security for worldwide banking. Supriem partners in Indonesia and India have been in the banking software development business the Supriem Standard directly to change the way depositors and business use the Web for their online banking worldwide e Commerce directly assisting emerging growth countries and companies, both domestically and internationally with the Allied Unit Trust. Supriem David Rockefeller, Chairman of S.D. Rockefeller Holdings, Ltd. And Supriem (Bank and Trust Company) said, "We chose FranTech because of their tremendous geo graphic reach and proven track record in establishing licensing agreements. With more than 35 years of experience, FranTech knows International Banking, trade policy, law, marketing, investment banking & technology research. Its broad expertise, coupled with access to key enterprises & governmental decision makers, provides services uniquely valuable to Supriem (Bank and Trust Company) overseas." The company explained that FranTech's mission is to foster the development of the glo bal economy by providing a global perspective to bankers, developers, marketers, manufacturers & innovators on newly emerging and preemptive technologies. It offers world-class solutions for the licensing and transfer of USA and Global innovations to emerging economies. Philip Nadeau, CEO of FranTech, said, "We see a tremendous market world wide for Supriem (Bank and Trust Company) programs for banks, consumers and emerging companies & already have interest from several countries. We plan on developing brand name recognition and positioning of Supriem licensee's with many governmental agencies, private financial institutes & companies where we already have relationships in place." About Supriem Bank and Trust Company Supriem (Bank and Trust Company) breakthrough of this vision began with the research of Supriem Rockefeller, Chairman that found core banking was in need of repair world wide. Supriem (Bank and Trust Company) will provide: 1. Comfort, as a small town bank from any location worldwide. 2. Intelligence, the most advanced A1 software to complete a multitude of tasks & provide worldwide financial live-streaming research. 3. 24 hour access to standard banking, trading & investment accounts in addition to Inter national Settlement Accounts, Forex, Forfaiting and Accounts for International Reserves and Clearing. 4. Security, the latest in biometric security for all communications. 5. Financial strength, weather meeting the needs of the individual or meeting the needs of a country wishing to join the world market, Supriem (Bank and Trust Company) will provide a complete spectrum of services from standard interest bearing accounts to sovereign debt management for struggling countries. Written into the mission statement, Supriem (Bank and Trust Company) will also make the commitment to interact business with companies that are not only economically viable, but must also be socially & environmentally responsible. Economics is not the only criteria for a successful company anymore. This is called the Supriem Standard. With relationships, including but not limited to, the Bank for International Settlements, International Monetary Fund & the World Bank, S.D. Rockefeller Holdings, Ltd. brings to Supriem (Bank and Trust Company) a foundation of financial strength unparalleled by any new bank entering into the international banking market in decades, as well, one of the oldest & trusted names in world banking. S.D. Rockefeller Holdings. Ltd. is a private asset management firm with over $10 trillion under management which provides a wide range of services to a substantial & diversified client base, which includes corporations, financial institutions, high net worth individuals & select governments worldwide. Supriem (Bank and Trust Company's) strength lies in its worldwide organizational, developmental and analyzing internet banking abilities to provide new client-led, innovative financial global cash management products and services to a worldwide customer base in 220 countries. The company has arranged and assisted in major banking breakthrough in the internet core banking development. The fields most directly included are artificial intelligence communications, online banking, & the marketing of new Allied Trust Unit to investors worldwide & consumer financial products such as SDR's, Asian Currency U nits, etc., thru all forms of internet banking exposure worldwide through select licensees. Supriem Bank & Trust Company is uniquely positioned to address the worldwide needs of developing nations Supriem new banking license with SWIFT capabilities, biometrics content development will be comprehensive, full-function virtual banking software to fill a need for e-commerce business automated controls of all aspects of banking growth needs of industrial nations around the world. Supriem Bank & Trust Company goals are to make virtual banking as compelling and interactive as the telephone/online banking worldwide. About Global FranTech Group Licensing FranTech consists of core partners surrounded by interlocking networks of consultants & affiliates in key banking and trading countries and disciplines. They have over thirty-five years of experience with their proven partners. 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They offer world-class solutions for the licensing and transfer of USA innovations to emerging economies in 220 countries worldwide for over thirty-five years.

10-24-2009, 10:28 PM	#21
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? Tran- I read that (as part of the pdf) however I am still not convinced (I was at first) the more I looked into it (the amateur home videos for example). What are your thoughts so far (mine are subject to change and right now I think he is an imposter claiming to be Supriem).......I could we wrong....... If this is true it's very frightening (and SD needs a better wardrobe as well as camera). One aspect that has not come true is the Allied Unit.If that happens I will start worrying (not really- I have given this all over to love/source energy and I believe in karma and they will reap what they sow). Edited to say just found this- off to read it- gotta love a lazy Saturday! http://primarysources.newsvine.com/_...oax?groupId=86 And Makow's take: http://www.henrymakow.com/playboy_lu...launch_be.html Last edited by eleni; 10-25-2009 at 12:39 AM.

10-25-2009, 01:21 AM	#22
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? I believe anything but I won't let it ruin my mood. The more you know, the better you're prepared to read the signs inbetween the lines. I wonder what the '13 Families' think of this. From what I understand, one way or the other, they're gonna lose their power monopoly. The 'secret' VRIL & THULE Societies are certainly to be taken serious, as history has already teached us. They were behind the rise of Adolf Hitler & during the Nazi period in Germany, from 1933 untill 1945, they were the only Secret Society that was not forbidden & whose members didn't end up in concentration camps. I think the pdf/book 'Supriem David Rockefeller: Messiah or Anti Christ?' is a 'must read', not in the least because it contains a lot of information, is written by a non religious person, (as contrasted with 'The Dulce Papers' by 'Branton', who is the worst kind of new born Christian) and the book reads like a Dan Brown novel; Whether it's true or not, we'll soon find out.

10-25-2009, 01:47 AM	#23
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? I know that has been said (they will lose their monopoly) however I don't see it happening......they have infiltrated into every sector of society- they are not just a bunch of European old men (and women I might add) as David Wilcock says.......it would take an act of divine will (which I am rooting for/meditating on/praying for) to bring them down...... Yes, if Wes was indeed communicating with authentic Thule members it's very disturbing however there are some red flags as to this SD's behavior. I can try to get some info through the lines of people (my friends) who are friends with David sr daughter ( I used to live near her and her children went to my children's school- David sr. even came to the school to give a talk) to see if I can gain any information as to the authenticity of this guy. Her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eileen_Rockefeller_Growald

10-25-2009, 03:40 AM	#24
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? Supposed modern picture of Maria Orsic? If so for a 70 something year old she looks very well!!! And if this is her then this story is falling apart at it's seams..... http://hollowearthexpedition.pbworks.com/Maria-Orsic Or is this her? oops- having issues posting it Last edited by eleni; 10-25-2009 at 03:50 AM.

10-25-2009, 04:41 AM	#25
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: Is Supriem David Rockefeller the Anti-christ? What the age of the woman on the picture (the alleged Maria Orsic) is, remains a mystery. I couldn't find any indication of her age in the article, nor that it was a "supposed modern picture of Maria Orsic." You're just presuming that, eleni. Or did I miss something?