I've seen an alien (an Englishman in New York?)

[Kulapops]

Hi Peeps,

OK, time for me to get a little controversial maybe. But this whole UFO alien thing is bugging my subsconscious.

On the one hand I can look at Jupiter in the night sky and think, 'that's nice, I can feel them watching us', or feel the presences of cloaked UFOs in our night sky - or even other worldly presences invading my subconscious.

On the other hand, I read posts on the internet where people say yes, the Pleidians have told me they're going to do this and that ... and somewhere else, that the reason why Nibiru is coming is because the Grnarls of Aarg are plotting to overthrow the Wangdoms of cheese.

Pictures and videos speak for themselves of course, I enjoyed Bob Dean's slideshow.

But I was just wondering how many of you out there have definitely seen something that , without shadow of a doubt means that you know alien life exists. Maybe you've seen an actual alien or their craft. Not psyops super planes.

Some of you may feel like I do, that although there is enough material out there to make you believe there is something, your skepto radar beeps when people talk about info they've been entrusted with from another race. (Miriam Delgado springs to mind - though I mean no disrespect to her - but it's hard to believe this if you haven't experienced it yourself.)

There seems to be a common link to this 'fantastical information that no one can absolutely prove' which is a common theme to the material in which we work / read on a daily basis.

So...just for a bit of serious fun... here's a poll for you.

Peace n Love

K

Oops I missed out an option... ' I have one eyebrow that raises when people talk of direct information given by other beings' . I don't know how to add this, so maybe if you want to choose this one, pick the last option as well (Pleadians...). I suspect both may be minority groups...

[Luminari]

Yes absolutely 100% I have seen UFO's, can I confirm if they were from off-world? no, but I believe the very existence of such technology points to that glaringly obvious fact that 21st century Earth human does not equate to the apex of technological advancement in our galaxy.

[Kulapops]

Thanks for your input Luminari. See, that's exactly the kind of info I'm interested in. Who exactly here (and we don't even have to name names - just tick the poll) has actually seen something so breathtakingly jaw droppingly real, that they have no doubt it was an alien or a real UFO. And I mean up close, not lights in the sky.

I totally believe you have seen this, and I totally believe such things exist. But I do wonder why hard evidence is so hard to come by, when the amount of tales and hearsay is just immense. This would indicate we've all got a snapshot somewhere of one.

But I'm wondering if the absolute truth is a little further away and most accounts are just wishful thinking.

So what better place to have a straw poll here, I mean, we are not your average people here at avalon.

Of course, I haven't thought of the angle that if someone really , really has seen something, they may have been sworn to secrecy, which means they can't take part in this poll. Sounds like I'm being facetious ? I don't mean to be. Look, if some seven foot tall being wandered into my bedroom and told me not to tell a soul.... you would not find me on here.

Blabberpops is not my name

best wishes to you all though. Maybe one day I'll see something...maybe we all will before the year is out if you believe the 'disclosure' rumours.

Mind you disclosure seems to be about as real as a 'good deal' at a new car showroom. Have the governments disclosed anything of real value yet? All it would take is one decent photo or high up admission.

Still I guess that's what B & K are doing... finding out just that proof...

K

[mntruthseeker]

I deffinately seen an UFO and my husband twice prior.

[Swanny]

Where's the I don't think I have seen anything and the nanoo, nanoo button?

[Kulapops]

Erm... yes... I goofed... I could have thought of at least three more options...

so we'll just have to leave the first three options for the genuine stuff... and the fourth if, like me you haven't seen anything...

If you really do talk to aliens, my apologies for sounding a little flippant about this possiblity. I'd love to hear anything you have to say on the matter in the thread in general.

K

[Angel in Disguise]

Does anyone remember the movie 'Predator'?... The shape that moved through the trees but was camouflage with the tree?... I saw that exact same thing 15 yrs ago. If I had been by myself I would've thought I was just seeing things however my friend who was with me at the time saw it as well. Still can't explain it however.

[mntruthseeker]

Dear Angel in Disguise.

I can't help but sit here and think to myself, better you than me.....I wouldn't be here today as I'm sure I would of died of fright.

Thanks for sharing and I will stay away from all wooded areas for now

[Angel in Disguise]

Yes Truthseeker it was quite a frightening experience. We had just gotten to the campsite and all of our friends had been drinking all day and wanted to go 4x4ing. My friend and I didn't want to go because of their state and decided to hang out at the campfire and wait for them to return. He was sitting across from me with his back to the tree and I was facing the tree.
We were just hanging out chatting and heard a rustle in the bushes, we both immediately looked in the direction of noise and saw a creature shape, vibrating but camouflage just as in the movie... It was the EXACT same thing as portrayed in the film. He ran across to sit near me and we were scared sh**less until our friends returned... At which point we described what had happened and they're response was we were crazy!
It wasn't until I heard David Icke speaking of shapeshifters only 3 yrs ago that I wondered if that was in fact what we saw. I still find it incredible especially that Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in the movie and now is governor of California... All seems a bit odd to me. But I'm crazy so what do I know?...

[mntruthseeker]

OH LOLOLOL the story got even better Oh boy that is so spooky

Some one explained that to say that when "high" you can see other dimensions. I was never "high" or drunk and see such thing so I wouldn't know. Although I have heard plenty of stories

My son was sleeping with his wife and around 1:30 am he seen a woman come through the walls and just floated through the room off the floor and out the other side of the buidling. He totally freaked out but Taryn never seen it. She told me she had a hell of a time getting my son calmed down. Can you imagine ?

Anyhow, the next day when they went to check out the cops were over at the room next door. Apparently a woman had commited suicide that night. He now says, he seen her soul. The description they got of the women deffinately proved his sighting.

I feel fortunate so far. I know he was not sober

He still talks about it.

[Angel in Disguise]

We were sober... we had just gotten there and were having our first beer.

[mntruthseeker]

he was asleep and doesnt really know what woke him because she made no noice. My son has had quite the life with the all the visions he has seen.

When he was small, he used to go and work on "healing" my headaches and never told a soul. He would come up and asked me afterwards if my headache was gone, (it was )and I thought he was just being a pest. I now know the truth. He had a NDE at the age of 5 and dianosed with ADHD

I love hearing his stories and I know he had a hard time getting people to listen to them while growing up so he gave up. Me, he thought I would commit him and who knows, I had taken him to a phychologist when he was younger never understanding him.

Its funny how things change when you too are not sleeping anymore. I know how people are so I can see how hard it was for him. He was so young

Now, I see the same traits in all three of his children. His one son walked into a home and over heard the people talk about a missing watch. He went right down into their basement and brought it up. He had never been there before or in the basement. He was only 6 years old. They hadnt seen the watch in over 4 years. Because they know my son, they didnt give it a second thought but to say he was "special"

Not too much surprises me now. David Icke is one of my favorite people but I would rather stay as an observer on these type of entities.

[Angel in Disguise]

Wow I just read some of the CSETI thread and notice how many have responded. Perhaps someone could explain what I saw. Any ideas???

[Humble Janitor]

I don't have to see to believe in aliens.

It all comes down to whether or not you believe that there are other life forms in the universe. If you do, then you believe in aliens (other life forms).

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I don't have to see to believe in aliens.

It all comes down to whether or not you believe that there are other life forms in the universe. If you do, then you believe in aliens (other life forms).

Well HJ that is getting right to the point... there is no way humans on Earth are the only example of Divine Intelligence!

That would be totally embarrassing to DI.

But never seen a thing other than my own imagination and everyone else has a great story to tell, so all you benevolent ET's out there come and say hi to us!

We can all be individual disclosure projects without any form of government or organization invading our knowledge base of sovereignty! And in the meantime we'll just have to make the world a better place in the best way possible.

Cool thread Kulapops!!!!

[Jnana]

Originally Posted by Kulapops

Some of you may feel like I do, that although there is enough material out there to make you believe there is something, your skepto radar beeps when people talk about info they've been entrusted with from another race. (Miriam Delgado springs to mind - though I mean no disrespect to her - but it's hard to believe this if you haven't experienced it yourself.)

At the risk of sounding like a broken record (which it just occured to me may not mean anything to the younger generation who grew up with CDs)...

Why are you asking for second hand information? If you really want to know, seek direct experience. I could tell you what I've seen, but in print and out of context, that would mean very little. The context I'm referring to is one of communication. It's not like watching TV. These are intelligent beings who respond to what you are thinking and saying. It becomes obvious very quickly that you are dealing with an advanced and enlightened intelligence.

[Jnana]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Now, I see the same traits in all three of his children.

Thanks for sharing this. Sounds like our future is in good hands.

[Kulapops]

Thanks everyone for your experiences and input.

I remember watching predator shortly after it came out, with Ah-nuld in his heyday and yes, that technology was very shocking. It wouldn't surprise me if we or others had such abilities.

Thanks Jnana also for your words. In my mind's eye, that's more the kind of experience that I tend to believe. As mntruth recounted her son's experience, I would imagine how shocking and deep such out of the ordinary experiences can be. It's not something to be glib about.

I do believe that there are aliens, and I'm not asking for proof on this thread. Cuh, that would be silly and I'd be doing Bill and Kerry out of a job with one thread if we succeeded !

No, I guess this thread is more about how we relate to each other. Avalonians in particular. It ocurred to me that we all of us spend our days scanning the internet and discerning (some way more than others). what we come across often seems far fetched and we have no real link to the validity of anyone's account other than how it reads.

Yet, among us, some friendships have been formed, yet I'm sure that there is a wealth of 'other' experience between us. I'm probably more likely to trust something Jnana says, than something read at random.

So, yes, a long way of saying it's a stake in the ground to see how much of us here are discerning with known firsthand experience and how much are in the more grey (gray??) areas like me.

Thanks again, hopefully we may yet record some more interesting thoughts or accounts. I don't want it to be finger waving at those who've seen things (for obvious reasons), that's why the poll is anonymous.

Even if a couple of people click on the 'yes I've seen one' that would be interesting. Even if they don't post.

The trend so far though is showing that we've seen weird stuff, but nothing conclusive (though the camouflage and ghost accounts sound pretty conclusive to me!)

Peace n Love,

K

[happyhollergal]

Thanks for all the above posts, and Kulapops for you starting this thread. The only reason that I found Avalon, was the direct result of what I saw with my own eyes, September 29th last year. Until that night, I thought UFOs were figments of the imagination and only seen by certifiable fruit cakes. We (my mate and I) formed the habit of going out and sitting on the porch at night with our coffee, having quiet conversation and gazing at the skies. He had never told me that he believed in UFO's/ETs so I didn't know that he did. Anyway, what I saw changed my life forever and it was very real, and not of our earth. Almost by accident, I saw something in the sky moving, rapidly, almost like a shooting star, but not quite, because it seemed to be traveling in a path of some sort. I watched it until it reached a place right over the town we live in, and it just stopped! It was circular, clearly silver metallic, and the bottom had the brightest white lights I've ever seen. I saw no windows at all, or other colored lights on it. It hovered there for maybe two minutes, then out of the blue, it hung a left at such an amazing speed that it was out of sight in a flash. Needless to say, I was dazed and confused. My mate just told me what he has seen before and that I could believe what I chose to. I didn't know what to believe. His nephew gave me a video to watch called UFO Insiders, with Bob Dean and Neil Freer. After that, I searched the internet for videos of Bob Dean, and found Camelot and Avalon. Since then, I've seen some craft that go into the maybe category, but nothing that got down low enough for me to see clearly. I know the difference between airplanes, jets and swamp gas. What I've seen was neither. The sighting was so profound, that I've started writing a book, one that any ordinary person can read and comprehend. I did learn over Labor Day weekend, when I timidly asked my parents if they believed in UFOs, that they had a sighting in our neighborhood when I was about 6 years old. I don't remember it, but they said it made the newspapers and radio in town for a week. They said it also appeared every night that week over a power plant and the Navy base, which was then Glynco in Georgia. It's funny, because I thought my parents would think me crazy just by asking them the question, because they are not ones to believe in such things, to my sadness, still part of the sheeple. Anyhow, that's what I saw, and I think it clearly qualifies me to fruitcake status. I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Kulapops]

Originally Posted by happyhollergal

Anyhow, that's what I saw, and I think it clearly qualifies me to fruitcake status. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Well, from one victoria sponge to another , can I just say that I really appreciate your post Happyhollergal.

We're all on a quest here, I think, to find out more about the world we live in. We are the awakened, with a generous dosage of fruit and nut.

My street cred has plummeted significantly since posting an email to my friends and family warning them of and turning the lights on about swine flu.
Of course, nothing has materialised - and coincidentally , just like last year I now also feel like the moment has passed. It ain't going to happen like we feared. All the more reason for them to look sideways at me !

Not entirely sure what I expected to find out with this thread. Obviously serious proof is not an option (other than what exists already - though if anyone has any great links to amazing accounts, pictures and vids, this could be a good place to post for those of us who don't know their whereabouts on the web.)

All I can contribute is a strange experience I had driving near stonehenge on the 303 in the UK. There was a bright orange glow in a field just off the main road. A fierce orange glow, as if a large portion of the field was burning, but the field was also obstructued by hedges so I couldn't see exactly what it was. It just looked as if it was on fire. So I found the next layby I could and turned the car around. This took about five minutes, and when I got back there was nothing. no trace of anything. Which was odd, because as the field seemed to be on fire, there's no way it could have gone out like that. There was no one around and no fire crews either.

It's not proof of anything though, just very strange.

It's funny, Happyhollergal, how we all arrive here for different reasons and come from differnt places... wait ! You've just given me an idea for another thread ! lol...

Take care and thanks for contributing,

K