Debunking Dr. Deagle - 9/11 - and a whole lot

[nivosh]

What do you think about this site: http://swallowingthecamel.blogspot.com


and what do you say about this part: http://swallowingthecamel.blogspot.c...2/dr_5372.html

here's an excerpt:

Dr. Deagle was a GP in Denver for several years, but now that he's on some kind of government hit list he has chosen to hole up in Canada. Good thinkin', Dr. D: They'll never find you here. Not unless They do something really extreme, like go to a gas station and buy a road atlas.
I love it when people say they're on a government hit list. They usually say it from the podium of a very public place that has no security whatsoever. Isn't it ironic how some people who spoke from a podium and didn't say this ended up being assassinated? Like Malcolm X and RFK? But the people who do say it usually die of old age? I mean, for the past 30+ years Lyndon LaRouche has been telling his groupies that the KGB, the CIA, and the British monarchy are gunning for him, yet he's now in his 80s and doesn't have so much as a paper cut to show for it.

Why did Dr. Deagle really leave Denver? After a woman named Debra Darnell died under his care, her family complained that he had over-prescribed medications (102 of them in 9 months). In March 2004 Deagle's license was temporarily suspended for over-prescribing drugs to three of his patients; one died from combined effects of the various meds, one suffered withdrawal and had to be hospitalized, and the third landed in the ER in a discombobulated state. (3

[KathyT]

Originally Posted by nivosh

What do you think about this site: http://swallowingthecamel.blogspot.com

and what do you say about this part:

That part seems to have moved to archive, I couldn't find it.

But I am not surprised. My gut told me from the very first interview of Dr. Deagle that his marbles were off base. I appreciate you bringing this further confirmation.

It reminds me of Dr. Richard Boyland and his claims of working with starchildren, his claim of being 'Councillor of Earth'
to the Star Nations.. Dr. Richard Boylan is a former California psychologist who had his state psychology license revoked back in 1995 over allegations of improper sexual interaction with female patients in his hot tub (hydro 'therapy'?).

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by KathyT

That part seems to have moved to archive, I couldn't find it.

But I am not surprised. My gut told me from the very first interview of Dr. Deagle that his marbles were off base. I appreciate you bringing this further confirmation.

It reminds me of Dr. Richard Boyland and his claims of working with starchildren, his claim of being 'Councillor of Earth'
to the Star Nations.. Dr. Richard Boylan is a former California psychologist who had his state psychology license revoked back in 1995 over allegations of improper sexual interaction with female patients in his hot tub (hydro 'therapy'?).

I guess becoming a doctor makes some people stupid... you don't need a license to practice 'hydro therapy.'



Kathy T you're funny.

[saggyash]

All I say is it is what it is. If it rings true to you then fine. If it doesn't then fine. You all have your own path and Dr. Deagle definately falls into it if you are believeing or if you are disbeliveing. Its not that unusual to have someone affect you the way they do but in the big game of things you were meant to hear their message if again you believe or disbelive. It is a grand game so play on.

[nivosh]

Originally Posted by KathyT

That part seems to have moved to archive, I couldn't find it.

I put the link in the original message.

[Noela]

I love your humour, Oxyodorymoron - and the way you bring
everythng back to earth.

Much love to you. You brighten my day with your observations.

[Peter]

I'm a big fan of Oxy's humour too.
When Dr Doom said he was a direct bloodline descendant of Moses my little voice yawned in my head.
Still glad to be here though, Peter.

[Tramik]

Originally Posted by Peter

I'm a big fan of Oxy's humour too.
When Dr Doom said he was a direct bloodline descendant of Moses my little voice yawned in my head.
Still glad to be here though, Peter.

Yeah, when he started dropping all the scripture quotes I couldn't help but be thrown off. Not saying I don't respect peoples beliefs, I just can't take scripture very literally.

Also, I always raise an eyebrow when people make claims of healing others through their natural powers. Now I'm not going to say I know everything, but when you say you're a miracle healer and the guy you healed has his disease return and your daughter's born with down syndrome, I can't help but face-palm myself.

Reminds of all the crazy Christian healers...

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by Noela

I love your humour, Oxyodorymoron - and the way you bring
everythng back to earth.

Much love to you. You brighten my day with your observations.

Thank-you Noela. Sometimes I get it right. Sometimes I go overboard with frustration and sarcasm. Often...my attempted humor is really catharsis.

You once asked me about the possibility of a common religious background...and I didn't really respond. I have attended several churches...but mostly SDA. I presently don't feel comfortable in any church...and I have not regularly attended any church for a very long time. I guess I would like a church that focused on the Teachings of Jesus and the U.S. Constitution...including the singing of hymns which incorporated the principles and concepts of these two historical sources. I like what Dr. Robert H. Schuller has said throughout the decades...but I have a problem with his pompous superciliousness...and his catering to the rich and powerful. I'm a real fan of the sacred music of Bach, Buxtehude, Handel, Widor, Vierne, Dupre, Durufle...and the great hymns of the Christian Church(although I would like to rewrite most of the verses). Jesus didn't tell us to go to church. It's optional.

Sorry for the long unrelated response...but I wanted to answer your question from several months ago.

[orthodoxymoron]

nivosh...you spoil all of the fun. I wanted to believe so badly.

There needs to be some type of fact checking organization...with paid staff...and no particular agenda...other than checking credentials, alleged facts, allegations, accusations, lawsuits, criminal records, prediction accuracy, etc, etc. Also, the distinction between speculation and real insider information needs to be clearly made. A fraud and charlatan could potentially stumble across valuable breakthrough information...but they need to be clearly identified as who they really are...and not as who they want us to think they are. Speculation is an important aspect of fringe research...but it needs to be made very clear when speculation is being incorporated.

Bill Deagle has opened my eyes to a lot of possibilities...and to many things I had never previously considered...but I certainly do not know how much of what he says is really true.

I'm not an insider. I don't know insiders. I don't interview insiders. I've never seen a UFO. I've never been abducted...that I know of. I don't channel. I don't do seances. I never leave my body. I hardly ever leave my house. What I try to do...is think outside of the box...and listen to a lot of very different people...and then make observations and speculations. I'm sort of like the smartass at the back of the room. I don't know if that puts me on lists or not. I really don't care. Driving my car is probably the most dangerous thing I will ever do. If agents of the PTB ever come to get me...I hope that we can at least have a heart to heart discussion about what is really going on in the world and in the universe...before they cart me off to the concentration camp. Hi guys! Send your best CIA agents or Jesuits!

[Northern Boy]

If they wanted him dead it would have happened long ago the turth of the matter is they enjoy the comedy he brings to the table

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I'm sort of like the smartass at the back of the room.

You crack me up!

[micjer]

For me Dr. Doom blew it last Oct when he said the sky was falling and nothing happened. I have always had a hard time warming up to this guy. He reminds me of the wanta be spy in the movie TRUE LIES.

[shred]

Originally Posted by micjer

For me Dr. Doom blew it last Oct when he said the sky was falling and nothing happened. I have always had a hard time warming up to this guy. He reminds me of the wanta be spy in the movie TRUE LIES.

I have to say i agree with ya here... Last Oct we were told by numerous sources that all hell was breakin loose & Both George Green & Bill Deagle in my eyes, lost credibility because of that . That doesnt mean I wont take a listen to their stuff here & there ,just to see if they do say anything worth while. Keeping an positive, open mind ya know.....

peace Shred

[Carol]

Originally Posted by micjer

For me Dr. Doom blew it last Oct when he said the sky was falling and nothing happened. I have always had a hard time warming up to this guy. He reminds me of the wanta be spy in the movie TRUE LIES.

ditto

[Wormhole]

Double Ditto.
Worm

[metaw3]

You don't have to go far to debunk Deagle. You can stick to MSM:
http://www.thecoast.ca/halifax/the-p...ent?oid=961304

After practising medicine for years in Denver—where he still faces a wrongful death lawsuit—and claiming connections to 9/11, the Oklahoma City bombing, Columbine school shootings and all manner of high-level government secrets, Bill Deagle moved back home to Nova Scotia. Now this Larry King of conspiracy lives in suburban Halifax, with a daily two-hour internet radio broadcast and explicit orders from God to get the truth out there.

[lucrum]

Even though it's "logical" to think shutting the mouth of whistleblowers is the best way to stop them from talking, I'd say ridiculing them works much better.

The second a whistleblower with a large mass of listeners mysteriously dies or disappears, you can bet your behind that more will believe what was said and continue the legacy.

Because of this, I don't like the word "debunk". I relate it to the mainstream ridicule of people with extraordinary skills or knowledge. It's ok to remain critical to information aquired, but there is no reason to go over limbs to prove them wrong.

At the end of the day people stick to what they feel is right for them.

Just to throw in an example, a national newspaper here posted an article about crazy conspiracy theorists and collected the most outrageous and stupid people and inserted elements of the theories that actually makes sense into the same article. As a result they put everyone in the nutjob bag and people bought it.

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

nivosh...you spoil all of the fun. I wanted to believe so badly.

There needs to be some type of fact checking organization...with paid staff...and no particular agenda...other than checking credentials, alleged facts, allegations, accusations, lawsuits, criminal records, prediction accuracy, etc, etc. Also, the distinction between speculation and real insider information needs to be clearly made. A fraud and charlatan could potentially stumble across valuable breakthrough information...but they need to be clearly identified as who they really are...and not as who they want us to think they are. Speculation is an important aspect of fringe research...but it needs to be made very clear when speculation is being incorporated.

Bill Deagle has opened my eyes to a lot of possibilities...and to many things I had never previously considered...but I certainly do not know how much of what he says is really true.

I'm not an insider. I don't know insiders. I don't interview insiders. I've never seen a UFO. I've never been abducted...that I know of. I don't channel. I don't do seances. I never leave my body. I hardly ever leave my house. What I try to do...is think outside of the box...and listen to a lot of very different people...and then make observations and speculations. I'm sort of like the smartass at the back of the room. I don't know if that puts me on lists or not. I really don't care. Driving my car is probably the most dangerous thing I will ever do. If agents of the PTB ever come to get me...I hope that we can at least have a heart to heart discussion about what is really going on in the world and in the universe...before they cart me off to the concentration camp. Hi guys! Send your best CIA agents or Jesuits!

Amen OXy.....You hear glimmers of truth and want to follow but there is SOOOOO much dis-info that ALMOST sounds real....I'm into SEE IT...I'll believe it .....And stop waving those THE WORLD ENDS TODAY signs in my face....jeesh!!!!!!!!!!

[orthodoxymoron]

What about the controlled demolition of the world economy? Was that the explosion in the basement? Was that only the beginning?

[orthodoxymoron]

The problem is...most of us are on edge...and we don't take the time to really think things through in a detached manner. Supposedly the greys engineered out most of their emotions. If true...they had a point...but went too far. We are probably too far in the other direction. How about some discipline and backbone? It's hard to think clearly when you think the end of the world(or equivalent) is just around the corner...and you want to make sure that you survive(to hell with everyone else)! Somehow...we need to learn the fine art of thought triage...in this E.R. called Life. We tend to gravitate toward the sensational and threatening stuff...the kind of thing Bill Deagle talks about. When gurus and their prophecies fail...we quickly look for new gurus with different prophecies. I'm really trying to just consider everything as possibilities and probabilities...almost like I'm reading mystery novels...and just for entertainment...rather than as a life and death sort of thing. I just assume that 90% is BS...and I'm OK with that.

[Ashatav]

You don't know how much Dr. Deagle has done and do for the people.

If you want an interesting opinion Carolyn Hamlett, the last illuminati Defector have one!


Dr. Deagle Might be The Most Important whistleblower out there and The Most Dangerous for the New World Dis-order interests.

So, he's the most attacked.

Not big mystery about it.

A post on a blog don't undo the works of Dr. Deagle on all the people who he had helped in these days with that flu... He had Helped So Many People...

By the way, on october 4 he says that in october 7 will start the colapse, Everybody who attack him for that really must start to put atention to the suscesion of letters forming words on the screen or clean their ears.

Cheers and PEACE AND LOVE

[KathyT]

Originally Posted by Ashatav

You don't know how much Dr. Deagle has done and do for the people.

I guess I don't. What specific things has he done?

Originally Posted by Ashatav

Dr. Deagle Might be The Most Important whistleblower out there and The Most Dangerous for the New World Dis-order interests.
So, he's the most attacked.

Most attacked? I doubt that. Try sitting in the office of President, and watch the opposing party tear you apart. Dr. Deagle isn't anything remarkable by a long shot.

And we do have the right to debate and closely scrutinize what any one says in public.

Originally Posted by Ashatav

A post on a blog don't undo the works of Dr. Deagle on all the people who he had helped in these days with that flu... He had Helped So Many People...

Excuse me, but who has he helped?

Originally Posted by Ashatav

By the way, on october 4 he says that in october 7 will start the colapse, Everybody who attack him for that really must start to put atention to the suscesion of letters forming words on the screen or clean their ears.

People forget that there were many professional economists who have put out warnings much before then... were you listening?

If Dr. Deagle and his claims of talking to God, of his religious preaching methods appeal to you, more power to you.
I think his marbles are off the mark.

[Tramik]

Originally Posted by KathyT

I guess I don't. What specific things has he done?



Most attacked? I doubt that. Try sitting in the office of President, and watch the opposing party tear you apart. Dr. Deagle isn't anything remarkable by a long shot.

And we do have the right to debate and closely scrutinize what any one says in public.



Excuse me, but who has he helped?


People forget that there were many professional economists who have put out warnings much before then... were you listening?

If Dr. Deagle and his claims of talking to God, of his religious preaching methods appeal to you, more power to you.
I think his marbles are off the mark.

Agreed. I think he shares some interesting stories, some food for thought if you will... but beyond that I don't see anything special.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

yeah he can keep his bloodline thing.. but hes spot on witht he flu and the black ops tech.. i take all with pinch of salt. but they are now about to drop their hammer in autumn. this is the perfect time for the truth to out and for them to get booted kicking and screaming.. it will wake up the rest of the sheep.. million of us will die but i think we can avert the billions of deaths before it gets out of hand..