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Old 02-05-2009, 10:42 AM   #1
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Default Washington State declaring sovereingty!

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...2009&bill=4009

Other states are following too!

http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2009/02/04...g-sovereingty/

H-1028.1 _____________________________________________
HOUSE JOINT MEMORIAL 4009
_____________________________________________
State of Washington 61st Legislature 2009 Regular Session
By Representatives Shea, Klippert, Condotta, Kretz, Anderson, McCune,
and Kristiansen
Read first time 01/30/09. Referred to Committee on State Government &
Tribal Affairs.
1 TO THE HONORABLE BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND
2 TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE AND THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF
3 REPRESENTATIVES, AND TO THE SENATE AND HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
4 UNITED STATES, IN CONGRESS ASSEMBLED, AND TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE
5 SENATE AND SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF EACH STATE'S
6 LEGISLATURE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
7 We, your Memorialists, the Senate and House of Representatives of
8 the State of Washington, in legislative session assembled, respectfully
9 represent and petition as follows:
10 WHEREAS, The Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United
11 States specifically provides that, "The powers not delegated to the
12 United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States,
13 are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."; and
14 WHEREAS, The Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal
15 power as being those powers specifically granted to it by the
16 Constitution of the United States and no more; and
17 WHEREAS, Federalism is the constitutional division of powers
18 between the national and state governments and is widely regarded as
19 one of America's most valuable contributions to political science; and
p. 1 HJM 4009
1 WHEREAS, James Madison, "the father of the Constitution," said,
2 "The powers delegated to the federal government are few and defined.
3 Those which are to remain in the state governments are numerous and
4 indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external
5 objects, [such] as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce. The
6 powers reserved to the several states will extend to all the objects
7 which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties,
8 and properties of the people."; and
9 WHEREAS, Thomas Jefferson emphasized that the states are not
10 "subordinate" to the national government, but rather the two are
11 "coordinate departments of one simple and integral whole. The one is
12 the domestic, the other the foreign branch of the same government.";
13 and
14 WHEREAS, Alexander Hamilton expressed his hope that "the people
15 will always take care to preserve the constitutional equilibrium
16 between the general and the state governments." He believed that "this
17 balance between the national and state governments forms a double
18 security to the people. If one [government] encroaches on their
19 rights, they will find a powerful protection in the other. Indeed,
20 they will both be prevented from overpassing their constitutional
21 limits by [the] certain rivalship which will ever subsist between
22 them."; and
23 WHEREAS, The scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means
24 that the federal government was created by the states specifically to
25 be limited in its powers relative to those of the various states; and
26 WHEREAS, Today, in 2009, the states are demonstrably treated as
27 agents of the federal government; and
28 WHEREAS, Many federal mandates are directly in violation of the
29 Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and
30 WHEREAS, The United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v.
31 United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply
32 commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and
33 WHEREAS, A number of proposals from previous administrations and
34 some now being considered by the present administration and from
35 Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States;
36 NOW, THEREFORE, Your Memorialists respectfully resolve:
37 (1) That the State of Washington hereby claims sovereignty under
HJM 4009 p. 2
1 the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all
2 powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government
3 by the Constitution of the United States; and
4 (2) That this serve as a Notice and Demand to the federal
5 government to maintain the balance of powers where the Constitution of
6 the United States established it and to cease and desist, effective
7 immediately, any and all mandates that are beyond the scope of its
8 constitutionally delegated powers.
9 BE IT RESOLVED, That copies of this Memorial be immediately
10 transmitted to the Honorable Barack Obama, President of the United
11 States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the
12 House of Representatives, the President of the Senate and the Speaker
13 of the House of Representatives of each state's legislature of the
14 United States of America, and each member of Congress from the State of
15 Washington.
--- END ---
p. 3 HJM 4009
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:43 PM   #2
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Regarding:
23 WHEREAS, The scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means
24 that the federal government was created by the states specifically to
25 be limited in its powers relative to those of the various states; and
26 WHEREAS, Today, in 2009, the states are demonstrably treated as
27 agents of the federal government; and
28 WHEREAS, Many federal mandates are directly in violation of the
29 Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and
30 WHEREAS, The United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v.
31 United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply
32 commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and
33 WHEREAS, A number of proposals from previous administrations and
34 some now being considered by the present administration and from
35 Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States;
36 NOW, THEREFORE, Your Memorialists respectfully resolve:
37 (1) That the State of Washington hereby claims sovereignty under
HJM 4009 p. 2
1 the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all
2 powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government
3 by the Constitution of the United States; and
4 (2) That this serve as a Notice and Demand to the federal
5 government to maintain the balance of powers where the Constitution of
6 the United States established it and to cease and desist, effective
7 immediately, any and all mandates that are beyond the scope of its
8 constitutionally delegated powers.
9 BE IT RESOLVED, That copies of this Memorial be immediately
10 transmitted to the Honorable Barack Obama, President of the United
11 States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the
12 House of Representatives, the President of the Senate and the Speaker
13 of the House of Representatives of each state's legislature of the
14 United States of America, and each member of Congress from the State of
15 Washington.

This is terrific! This is as it should be! The Federal Government needs to be reigned in by the States! The Federal Government's authority needs to decrease...and the State's authority needs to increase. The Feds get it so very, very wrong...over, and over, and over again... If the Federal Government, in general...and the Executive Branch, in particular...are too powerful...then, when they are corrupted and subverted...the consequences are absolutely devastating. If the power is spread out more evenly...it is much more difficult for corrupt individuals and organizations...to scuttle the United States of America. I feel like we are a big ship being towed outside a safe-harbor...to be scuttled at sea with a controlled demolition...to clear the way for a New World Disorder Alien-Theocracy. I know I'm neurotic and paranoid...but that doesn't mean they're not out to get us!

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Old 02-05-2009, 07:49 PM   #3
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North Carolina just did this in December of 2008. Looking forward to this for sure! Thanks for sharing about Washington
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:12 PM   #4
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This sends a powerful message to your central Government! What response has North Carolina had from the Govt? I'll be watching this issue with interest. In New Zealand the South Island (where I am) has protested at times to the plundering of our rivers to feed electricity to the North Island, where the Govt, power and the majority of people are. We in the south have not been listened to at times. We succeeded in stopping a large canal project, that would have seen the last section of a huge braided river put into a canal with power stations all along it. That was on the south bank of the river. They are coming again to have another go on the north side. It will not succeed, the river will rage, and put paid to all their development. Man's plans are impotent again the power of nature when she decides to move. Just as when united peoples finally stand up and say no, you shall not pass, governments tremble.

Im rambling a bit, but anyway, you get my drift.

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Old 02-05-2009, 09:41 PM   #5
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It's largely nothing but symbolism unless the rest of the states are able to follow along. They should work on pressuring Obama before they declare sovereignity. Isn't there some plan on the books somewhere that would restore the constitution?

But as I said, declaring sovereignity should only come after all options have been exhausted.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:02 AM   #6
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Wow...this is a good trend...hope it keeps rollin'
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Old 02-06-2009, 01:16 AM   #7
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Also, I see this is as a potential spark for a civil war between states that declare independence and those that do not. I do not think it's wise to encourage this behavior.
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:00 PM   #8
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Hi Dominic,

Great post.

Could be the test that Powell and Biden were talking about.

I heard this morning news that Russia could be breaking up. I think it might just be a little bit further west.

This is one set of fireworks I would live to see go up, but from a safe distance.

I'm glad I'm over here.

Best regards,

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Old 02-10-2009, 10:50 AM   #9
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Alex Jones interviewed Washington state Representative Matt Shea today!

The interview does not start until 6 minutes into the first segment.

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y05s3ua8EFM

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0baVBIZS94

part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrAf_9zJ8wk

The people are waking fast now!

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