Swine Flu Tracking/Posting Section

[gscraig]

Hello All,

This is more directed towards the moderators, but input is welcomed.

Now that we have a real time situation upon us in the form of the Swine Flu, can we create a Swine Flu tracking/posting area?

This area/section would be for posting updates/news that reflects current behaviors or action that is being taken in public, on the public, or by the public. For example; the announcement and reaction in Albany, NY regarding mandatory vaccines for health care workers. Another example would be the actions that are reportedly being taken in Belgium.

This section will not contain Swine Flu threads in regards to it's ingredients, origin, etc. We have established that via other threads, although we could create a Swine Flu thread just for "that" kind of information.

We need a posting area where people can look to see what is happening NOW and WHERE, and WHAT is being done, or what is not being done.

This may prove a pivotal point of reference in terms of tracking trends, effective counter-measures (no I'm not military), locations, etc that may help people prepare or take action in whatever way possible. This would be idea for any and all major circumstances or events that we may face.
Thanks,

gscraig

[Anchor]

Well, I can make a thread sticky in the news area - if you start one off, I will make it sticky and then at a later stage merge all the swineflu news threads into it.

I dont have a huge amount of time, but I can usually do some admin work each evening.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by gscraig

Hello All,

We need a posting area where people can look to see what is happening NOW and WHERE, and WHAT is being done, or what is not being done.

This may prove a pivotal point of reference in terms of tracking trends, effective counter-measures (no I'm not military), locations, etc that may help people prepare or take action in whatever way possible. This would be idea for any and all major circumstances or events that we may face.
Thanks,

gscraig

I really back up your initiative gscraig. Let's do this

Love always
mudra

[pyrangello]

No swine flu reported here in this area however lots of people catching fevers, spoke with my brother yesterday and he said his wife and 2 kids all were running a fever, my one neice 104 degrees , took her to the hospital and they were all excited there as they thought they had there first case of swine flu, couldn't believe that.It turned out not being the swine flu.That was in the detroit area. Fevers are running rampant around here as well and the one office gals mom got the regular flu shot, 56 yrs old and was sick for over a week and they wanted her to get 2 more boosters, she said no way.

[mudra]

The scene in Belgium

Translated from french:" Last friday, the ministerial council has approuved an exceptional law project aimed at giving the government a series of special powers as regard the fight against the H1H01 flu.Those special powers must amongst others allow the autorities to legalize a circuit of distribution of brand new medecine.
The ministerial counsil's decision has raised anger the belgian pharmaceutical association.
They don't understand why they won't be implicated in the handling
of the crisis nor why the giving out of antiviral medecine can be given
to people having no relation at all with healthcare.
All along the elaboration phase of the pandemic plan they repeadly manifested
energetically their disapproval as regard the measured proposed by the Influenza cell.
The flu pandemy they say contains already enough unknown factors and a totally unexperimented and unstructured system of distribution would only add to it .

I spoke today to a student of mine who is wife of an ambassador here in Belgium.
I asked her if she new where I could find in writing the decisions made by our parliament as regard the
planned modalities they will use in case of a pandemic flu H1N1.
I informed her it had come to my awareness that the counsel of ministers had voted a law project
giving the government a series of special powers as regard the fight against the H1H01 flu.
She says that she remembered seeing a letter sent to her husband stating that this is already a programmed plan for all European countries .
She said that the vaccines have a 3 years lasting and that so they had to be administered this year.
She also mentioned she saw a ratio of 30% of the total population per country these vaccines should
be administered to ( to start with ? ...).
When I asked her if I could see the document she said that actually it might have been labeled " Confidential " in which case she would'nt be allowed to forward it to me.

Belgium has ordered more that 12,5 millions H1N1 vaccines.
Our population up to lately is of 10.600.000 people.

29/09/2009 ( Belga and AFP)
The european commission has given permission tuesday to the selling in Europe of 2 vaccines against the H1N1 flu.( Focetria and Pandemrix)
In Belgium the hospital's personnel will be vaccinated as soon as the 18th of october.
The vaccines will be autorized in all the European countries , as well as Island , Lichtenstein and Norway.

The autorisation will take effect on the 1st october the latest in all the countries that have ordered the vaccines.

The vaccines will be injected in two doses , with an interval of 3 weeks in between.
Approval of utilisation has been granted for adults including pregnant women and children above 6 month.

Children above 6 month old suffering from chronic pathologies, pregnant women et medical personnel are the 3 groups that will be vaccinated in priority . This position has been voted amongst the 27 countries of the european union.

In Belgium vaccination against H1N1 will be organized on a voluntary and free basis.
The vaccines will be delivered by doctors.


Thanks to the law suit engaged by Jane Burgermeister in Austria and the association of human rights in France some positive drawbacks have been obtained on 2 decisions the Belgian government was about to take:

1: mandatory vaccination
2: the vote of an exceptional Law aiming to install martial law and mandatory vaccination after the summer holidays .

Belgium has receded as regard the mandatory vaccination .
and France also announced it will do the same.

That's a first victory.

Part of the population in Belgium is well aware of the worldwide plan regarding H1N1 vaccination and is taking pacific protesting measures against it. Videos are circulating as well informative materials distributed through the net.

Love always
mudra

[LightSurfer]

Originally Posted by mudra

The scene in Belgium


The european commission has given permission tuesday to the selling in Europe of 2 vaccines against the H1N1 flu.( Focetria and Pandemrix)

I think that the exact name would be ForceTrial and PandemRisk

LS

[sunflower]

From James Gilliland: ECETI Yahoo group


http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/eceti/messages



SWINE FLU IS NOT THE REAL SICKNESS


Spread the word folks, let's put this to bed.

"Los Angeles, CA— World leading drug-industry investigators have uncovered
stunning documents proving an international drug ring, operating from New York
City, is behind the H1N1 swine flu fright and vaccination preparations.
Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz, America's leading consumer health expert, and Sherri
Kane, an investigative journalist, have released shocking proof in legal
affidavits that leaders of a private global biotechnology "trust" are behind
everything you ever heard about pandemic flu, including its origin and alleged
prevention via vaccination. Their documents, being sent through attorneys to the
FBI today, evidence powerful industrialists operating a crime ring within
"Partnership for New York City" are behind the pandemic's creation, media
persuasions, vaccination preparations, and health official promotions seen
everywhere from supermarkets to health clinics.
"David Rockefeller's trust, that engages several powerful partners on Wall
Street, including media moguls Ruppert Murdock, Morton Zuckerman, Thomas Glocer,
and former Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of New
York, Jerry Speyer," are implicated in advancing global genocide," Dr. Horowitz
wrote to FBI directors, through a team of attorneys assembled to stop the swine
flu vaccines from being given.
"This `partnership' controls biotechnology research and development globally.
Health commerce internationally is also controlled virtually entirely by this
trust that exercises near complete control over mainstream media to
promote/propagandiz e its products and services for the drug cartel's organized
crime. This trust, in essence, makes or breaks medical and natural healing
markets, primarily through the mass media companies and propaganda it wields for
social engineering and market building," Dr. Horowitz wrote.
Among the most stunning revelations from the Horowitz-Kane research are those
linking Larry Silverstein of Silverstein Properties, Inc., and the 9-11
terrorist attacks, to the drug cartel's geopolitical, economic, and population
reduction activities. Mr. Silverstein, leaser of the World Trade Center who
authorized to have building 7 "pulled," meaning detonated, is a chief suspect in
the "9-11 truth" investigation. Silverstein is currently landlord and co-partner
in the biotechnology trust founded by David Rockefeller and implicated by these
new discoveries.
"If these people can get away with killing more than 3,000 people in 8 seconds
on 9-11, they are completely capable of murdering millions, even billions, of
people worldwide this flu season," Dr. Horowitz commented. "I pray these
revelations will save millions of lives and help activists call upon President
Barack Obama to demand legitimate inquiries into these genocidal atrocities."
Given the unprecedented nature and urgency of these ...

http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/top-stories/1493477/

[lucrum]

If we for a moment forget vaccines and start thinking along other paths.

What exactly is making this H1N1 strain kill certain people?
From what I have seen from cases within our borders, respiratory complications have been the main reason as for why people get hospitalized or in worst cases die.
Question arises in me, why does this virus generate violent pneumonia in a few individuals?

We seem to get alot of info or disinfo on everything else, but I'm yet to see any real explanation as to why the virus behave like it does and why most does not get ill, but a certain few die from it. Some have already existing critical conditions making them vulnerable for attacks, those are explained. What about those that are deemed otherwise healthy, but die from this virus? What is the common factor in these people that made them go so sick?

Was it something they ate? Was it a drug they took? Did they have certain flu vaccinations from before? Was there something special about their DNA? About their chemical composition? Did they have a weak immunesystem, and if true, why was it weak?

I really think that before anyone starts treating or immunizing people, these and many more questions should be answered or attempted to answer. There are shortcuts to shorten or avoid sickness, but the reason for one getting that sick in the first place probably still lies within and need resolve.

Personally I think fencing off every darn decease we stumble across is a bad idea. We are messing with balance, and eventually making hell for ourselves.

It's a two-faced problem, really is...

[Hogosha]

Just tought i should share this since i dont know if anyone has heard it or seen it on tv, or if it has been broadcast around.

Basicly i seen on tv that for example german goverment will be vaccinated, but they will be vaccinated by another vaccine that the one that will be used on common people. Not just them, but all the country organs will be vaccinated whit this vaccine ( police, army, medical departments, etc. ) while the rest of the people will get the vaccine that we already have heard of ( the bad one ). So simple, 2 vaccines, one bad and one "good". One for the people and one for the "special" people. Money spining the world around at its best.


Kind regards, Hogosha.

[GaiaLove]

This is a health alert from a neurosurgeon by the name of Dr. Russel Blaylock concerning swine flu.

Originally Posted by RUSSELL L. BLAYLOCK, M.D.

No one should take the swine flu vaccine--it is one of the most dangerous vaccines ever devised. It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene (MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease). This virus H1N1 kills by causing a "cytokine storm", which means that it cause the body's immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the l ethality of the virus much greater.

One's best protection is vitamin D3. One should take 5000 IU a day now and when the disease begins to spread increase the dose to 15,000 IU a day. Vitamin D3 modulates the immune reaction, reducing the chance of an overreaction and stimulates the body to produce what are called antimicrobial peptides, which are powerful killers of viruses that does not involve immunity. This is dose related, which means the higher the dose of vitamin D3 the better the protection. Fish oils (the best is Carlson's Norwegian lemon flavored fish oil) also reduce immune overreaction. One teaspoon a day should be sufficient. For severe symptoms, one teaspoon twice a day. Antioxidants of various kinds also help--this includes, quercetin, curcumin, grapeseed extract, vitamin C and natural vitamin E. A good multivitamin/mineral such as Extend Core (http://www.vrp.com/) is also essential.

Here's Dr. Blaylock's bio:

Dr. Blaylock is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. He attended the LSU School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical internship and neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston , South Carolina . During his residency he ran the neurology program for one year and did a fellowship in neurosurgery after his residency. For the past 25 years he has practiced neurosurgery in addition to having a nutritional practice. He recently retired from both practices to devote full time to nutritional studies and research.

During his residency training he worked with the eminent neurosurgeon, Dr. Ludwig Kempe. Together they developed the transcallosal removal of intraventricular tumors, which is still used today. Dr. Blaylock presented their cases utilizing this technique to the Congress of Neurological Surgeons. They also developed the ventriculolymphatic shunt in the treatment of hydrocephalus. In addition, they conducted neuroanatomical studies together with the aim of developing improved approaches in vascular intracranial surgery.

It was during his residency that Dr. Blaylock did much of the primary work on intraventricular monitoring of craniocerebral trauma patients, which was reported in the scientific literature. He also worked closely with Dr. Peter Jannetta during Dr. Jennetta's early research on vascular compression of the cranial nerves as a cause of trigeminal neuralgia and hemifacial spasm. Dr. Blaylock was one of the first neurosurgeons to utilize high-intensity nutritional supplementation in craniocerebral trauma patients, which met with great success.

Dr. Blaylock has written and illustrated three books. The first book was on the subject of excitotoxins (Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills ) and how they are related to diseases of the nervous system. His second book, Health and Nutrition Secrets That Can Save Your Life , covers the common basis of all diseases, nutritional protection against diseases of aging, protection ag ainst heavy metal toxicity, the fluoride debate, pesticide and herbicide toxicity, excitotoxin update, the vaccine controversy, protection against heart attacks and strokes and contains a new chapter on omega-3 fats. This book has been newly revised as an oversized paperback. His third book, Natural Strategies for Cancer Patients , was released in April, 2003 and discusses the ways to defeat cancer, enhance the effectiveness of conventional treatments and prevent complications associated with these treatments. In addition, he has written and illustrated three chapters in medical textbooks, written a booklet on nutritional protection against biological terrorism and written and illustrated a booklet on multiple sclerosis. He has written over 30 scientific papers in peer-reviewed journals on a number of subjects.

Since the publication of his first book he has been a guest on numerous national and international syndicated radio programs and appeared on the 700 Club several times. He appeared on Nutritionally Living with Dr. Ward Bond. Presently, he is engaged in a monthly radio program discussing his book,Health and Nutrition Secrets on Raymond Francis' program Beyond Health . The series will run for 12 months. He lectures widely to both lay and professional medical audiences on a variety of nutritional subjects.

Dr. Blaylock serves on the editorial staff of the Journal of the American Nutraceutical Association and is the associate editor of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons , official journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. He has a monthly nutrition newsletter, published byNewsMax.com, The Blaylock Wellness Newsletter .

Dr. Blaylock serves as the medical consultant for the Fluoride Toxicity Research Collaborative. He was recently awarded the Integrity in Science award by the Weston A. Price Foundation. Presently, he is a visiting professor in the department of biological sciences at Belhaven College in Jackson ,Mississippi .

At present he is a member of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, the American Nutraceutical Association, the International and American Associations of Clinical Nutritionist, the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, American College of Nutrition, American Association for Health Freedom, National Health Federation, American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation. He was recently appointed as a member of the Academy ofAnti-Aging Medicine and the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation. He was also recently appointed as a member of the Scientific Advisory Panel of the Life-Extension Foundation .
source: http://blogs.redding.com/tpratt/arch...h-experts.html

The Doctors Website: http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/

[Jack]

UPDATE : My dad has just been diagnosed with swine flu. He seems to be in pretty good form, although he was telling me that at one stage he could just about take the top of the bottle of brandy in order to help him sleep. He's about six days in now and is in good enough form to go out and about walking outside.

This is the killer bug their all talking about huh? Ive seen people in far worse condition after taking a swine flu vaccination.

We are located in the west of Ireland.

Id also like to add, because im feeling it is somewhat important that the diagnosis was given after a simple check over.

"what are your symptoms?"

"Aches and pains, sore belly, headache"

"Its swine flu."

Simple as that.. no swabs taken or anything like that. It seems to me that he's got nothing more then the common flu. The doctors seem to be primed and ready to diagnose anyone with flu like symptoms as swine flu.

[waitinginthewings]

Found this on another forum:

Quote:
Fifth "swine flu" vaccine death in Sweden - vaccinations still go ahead as planned!

Media in Sweden is having a tough time maintaining the propaganda as more and more people question the reasons for the mass vaccination. Now, authorities say that if not "80% of the population takes the shot, we risk 100 deaths from the swine flu". Most Swedes know that a normal fly season see several thousand dead from complications from the seasonal flu so the proportions of the propaganda coming from media and the government has caused a growing revolt against the massive attempts to scare people to take the poisonous injection.

Today, Svenska Dagbladet reports that over 350 cases of side effects from the Pandemrix "swine flu" shot, have been recorded so far. It has also become clear that this shot contains the most deadly mix of substances of all the known vaccines manufactured against the so called "swine flu" H1N1 influenza. The official number of deaths from the "swine flu" vaccine is now five. And that is only those who have strong immediate reactons, the long term effects are usually never even investigated. If you would die from the shot two weeks after you took it, your death would not be considered to have anything to do with the vaccination. Severe healthproblems years after will of course be very had to link to the poisonous injection. Even if these five official cases died within days, the official story is of course as expected: "none of these deaths has been confirmed to be linked to the vaccine".

As always with statistics like this, historically we know that very few of all real side effects are actually reported. Optimistically, up to ten per cent would be reported. It is also highly likely that deaths are being kept secret by the authorities so that the massive and hugely expensive vaccination program will not come to a complete stop. Too many have put their job, reputation and title at stake for the truth to be reported and published.

So far, three people have been reported dead from complications from getting the H1N1 virus. Five dead from the flu shot before the real vaccination campaign has even started should be an indication to question the vaccine and the strategy chosen but the authorities have so much prestige invested that it is unlikely it will ever happen - no matter how many will die from the poisonous injections.

The Swedish public are being kept in the dark about the most simple facts about the vaccinations. The questionable protection against the virus will only be for this present strain - any new mutations would immediately require a new vaccine for that strain. The new second wave of the new mutation is exactly what authorities warn about and use as an argument to take the poisonous injection.

Authorities are running out of arguments and completely idiotic arguments have been published the last week in Sweden. "There is less mercury in the shot than you get from eating mercury contaminated fish", "You might get sick from the vaccine but you should take that risk to ´save" someone who could die from getting the H1N1 infection from you", "It would be like killing someone to not take the shot out of solidarity" and "Mercury is not dangerous and also squalene is not dangerous, there is nothing called the Gulf War Syndrome and if there is, it has nothing to do with squalene because there was no squalene in the vaccines the US troops got".

The number of flat out lies are so many, it is hard to keep track of them all.

The chief of The Swedish Institute for Infectious Disease Control (SMI), Annika Linde, says in the article: "- The Vaccine is principally natural to the body. The mercury was necessary but the amounts are very small. There are many who have been making statements without qualified knowledge. It is of course good that this type of mater is debated but some of the reporting is rather devastating for the possibility to vaccinate the whole population."

The official line in Sweden is bordering to madness and the biggest medical scandal in the history of the nation has just started.

Johan Niklasson

[gscraig]

CNN
October 29, 2009

New York Declares H1N1 State of Emergency
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/29...1n1/index.html

Side Note;
I was watching CNN today, and Kathleen Sebelius was warning people that there will likely be a rise in deaths.

This may be quite an experience for all of us this winter. Be prepared.

[gscraig]

Unknown Virus Kills in West Ukraine

From News and Updates per Burgundia.

http://wolnemedia.net/?p=18049&lang=en

[burgundia]

I have already posted it but I will repeat it here....
Now they have declared pandemic in Bulgaria. 3 people have died....

[Mystique]

I am a teacher and live in Florida. Today the health dept. came to school to vaccinate our kids. Over 600 kids were vaccinatd. They are returning tomorrow. We were told of course not to influence anyone in any shape, form or fashion about taking or not taking the vaccine.

Part of me is afraid to take it, the other part says I'll be the one to get the darn thing and get deathly ill. What do you guys think? I would just like to hear your opinions because as of now I can't see myself taking it.

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by Mystique

Part of me is afraid to take it, the other part says I'll be the one to get the darn thing and get deathly ill. What do you guys think? I would just like to hear your opinions because as of now I can't see myself taking it.

Whatever you do do not take the vaccine

http://www.theflucase.com/

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Mystique

I am a teacher and live in Florida. Today the health dept. came to school to vaccinate our kids. Over 600 kids were vaccinatd. They are returning tomorrow. We were told of course not to influence anyone in any shape, form or fashion about taking or not taking the vaccine.

Part of me is afraid to take it, the other part says I'll be the one to get the darn thing and get deathly ill. What do you guys think? I would just like to hear your opinions because as of now I can't see myself taking it.

My grandsons playmates mother got the H1N1 due to her job. my daughter and he both got the flu from him. It turned into pnuemonia and they are both fine now. Its not the flu that you need to worry about it truly is the vaccine.

Fear is exactly what they want you to feel right now.

[Thunderbird]

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yeah...thats what happens when i try to embed a youtube video....

[Swanny]

The reporter is telling lies, listen to him talking about tamiflu

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

more proof that all countries are 'IN' on the coming nwo. tamiflu sigh

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

http://216.18.197.204/audio/Bill_Dea...ugust_2009.mp3



the said info in the august deagle interveiw about jo moshe and the ukraine plague outbreak

[Avid]

An Independent Assay of the Vaccine Intended for Forced Vaccinations.


and another by the same disseminator
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xab...ons-repor_news

New forms of new organisms being manufactured right now.
1. Spliced HIV-4
2. Flavivirus (similar to Ebola)
3. Hepatitis type G
4. Rhabidoviridae engineered- Rabies

Application via chemtrail, or on bottled water lips via Coca Cola bottling company - out November west coast.

Unconfirmed, but originally on http://www.theflucase.com

The next video is to scare the masses into getting the vaccine:
leaked from Council on Foreign Relations meeting...



and finally - check the links from the latest comment by Bill Ryan on Camelot front page... http://www.projectcamelot.net/ concerning the origination of the Ukranian 'plague'.
Avid

[burgundia]

Today I heard a radio commercial encouraging people to get vacinated.....

[Moxie]

Please watch the interview between Bill and Gabriele Stahler, re: Vitamin D3... just as Bill, I too learned a lot from this interview.
Vital Importance
http://projectcamelot.org/brussels_1...ober_2009.html