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Old 10-05-2008, 07:30 PM   #1
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Ok....just piecing this stuff together. I am listening to D. Wilcock right now, just listened to Bill Deagles call from last night, and watched the new zeitgesit movie last night.

(btw, links at camelot to these not working...what's up??)

David is saying same stuff. He doesn't like Deagle. Hmm...

I have seen stuff SORT OF similar to Deagle's visions, AND Wilcocks.

My feeling is that it might not be AS severe as Deagles visions, but something for sure is going down.

Also, I'm posting an another thread a message about the Zeitgeist movie.

I agree with David about our "growth process". But something is going to happen.

anybody? what's your take?? Lets talk!
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:40 PM   #2
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havent listened to the david thing, but the bill conversation i heard, he was very busy about undrlining it all....i m not sure....but i feel i have my head over water again....
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:41 PM   #3
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Ok....just piecing this stuff together. I am listening to D. Wilcock right now, just listened to Bill Deagles call from last night, and watched the new zeitgesit movie last night.

(btw, links at camelot to these not working...what's up??)

David is saying same stuff. He doesn't like Deagle. Hmm...

I have seen stuff SORT OF similar to Deagle's visions, AND Wilcocks.

My feeling is that it might not be AS severe as Deagles visions, but something for sure is going down.

Also, I'm posting an another thread a message about the Zeitgeist movie.

I agree with David about our "growth process". But something is going to happen.

anybody? what's your take?? Lets talk!
I'm curious what everyone else thinks too. I am in the middle of listening to Bill Deagle's phone call and it's got me worried. Somehow I hope he's wrong.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:10 PM   #4
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David basically says that the ETs won't let any nukes go off. And he says that Deagle just had a bad vision and needed to back it up with evidence.
He also said that he is a public speaker and should have more responsibility on what message he is bringing due to Camelot's popularity.

Because it would spread unnecessary fear to the public.

He also thinks that the NWO is going down.

So it is the complete opposite approach to our future.

That is a main summary.

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Old 10-05-2008, 09:07 PM   #5
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Bill Deagle strikes me as the kind of person who reads things and then internalizes them.

Like reading the side effects of a medication and suddenly getting the side effects.

Me thinks, Bill has been reading too much GLP, Webbot reports and Timewave zero info.

Nothing happens next week except maybe a minor stock market correction.

As an intuitive myself, Bill feels like he's looking for credibility but carries none of his own.

Bill says his in So Cal. Why isn't he getting the hell outta there? I would have packed up my stuff and family... and called from a cell phone or after I felt safe.

Deagle is a phoney.
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:44 PM   #6
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Whether he is right or wrong, I'm loving life and people and processing my own forgiveness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRqJUtqDrbM&feature=related


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I'm curious what everyone else thinks too. I am in the middle of listening to Bill Deagle's phone call and it's got me worried. Somehow I hope he's wrong.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:01 PM   #7
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My feeling is that Dr Bill's message was over-the-top, that is, it didn't ring true to me, but the build up of tensions that seem to be going around, I do feel and experience those occasionally.

Zeitgeist Addendum was good.

I will roll on up to the store for extra provisions in a day or two.

Pray for Peace everybody.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:40 PM   #8
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I have had Et contact for years now(actually I am told all my life but I don't remember) and I am being told & shown that it was my last chance to stock up, Bush will be bared (saw him running in undies & socks) and just rough seas for a while and then everything will be much better than my life now.
Things are going to get nasty, have seen troops, bombs, battleships.
Also have been told I may have to leave. I am unsure at this point where but am prepared as this info is Always accurate.so much so that my family takes it quite seriously. I do not believe any nukes will be fired, as my ET friends say they are already here and will step in.
I am to look at this as a great adventure, a prerequiste to a golden age
My watchers are tall blondes and I have always felt quite peaceful, safe & protected with them.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:50 PM   #9
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Many people are having trouble believing in what bill deagle said, but what about george green? what about the radio show were some guy says he recieved an email from a UN friend saying he's leaving the uk in october? What about the information david icke got from a traffic warden about being informed of a coming war which will create civil unrest?
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:25 PM   #10
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Many people are having trouble believing in what bill deagle said, but what about george green? what about the radio show were some guy says he recieved an email from a UN friend saying he's leaving the uk in october? What about the information david icke got from a traffic warden about being informed of a coming war which will create civil unrest?
Ive also been speaking with a guy that has friends in Florida who told him about four new FEMA camps they had spotted over there. Sumthin is definately afoot.
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:37 PM   #11
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the thing is many people say that ET's aren't going to allow WW3, yet they have allowed two world wars already. And let's not forget that in the last world war there were two nuclear bombs dropped. I agree that WW3 would be way more catastrophic, but are we being a bit arrogant by saying they will save us? It's hard for me to be able to tell whether they will or not because i simply don't know how they percieve humans, or how they think. We are like ants to them so would they really help such a primitive species? i hope they do.

WWII was lost by the Nazis, and they were unable to implement global slavery. Yes, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed but full nuclear war/anarchy never happened. Instead we entered several decades of unprecedented peace, prosperity, and freedom. Any nuclear detonation today would cause complete anarchy, because many countries possess weapons of mass destruction and our supply chain is so fragile.

Especially at this point in time, right before 2012, they won't allow a wholesale enslavement of humanity by the elites. They just won't, it's too much of an infringement on everyone's free will.

As to their view of us, all things are part of the creator and therefore they will maintain our chance to experience a choice-filled life on this earth and see an appropriate end to this age.

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Old 10-05-2008, 10:43 PM   #12
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we've been apart of global slavery for centuries, the democratic society is nothing but an illusion. Our spiritual potential has been supressed for a long long time.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:01 PM   #13
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I watched the Zeitgeist Addendum, heard both interviews, sorting it all out - same as all of you. Something interesting to note are the military exercises being planned for Oct 6 through Oct 16. Wilcock mentioned them in his interview, I found the following link.
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/s...ad.php?t=31005
I started another thread about it - don't mean to muck things up by mixing topics, but this is all part of the puzzle. If you recall, similar exercises were being conducted on 9/11. It certainly makes you think.
Too many things all pointing in the same direction to just dismiss them as fear mongering. If someone shouts "Fire!" - and there is a fire - is that person an alarmist? Or someone who values human life, same as you?
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:59 AM   #14
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Many people are having trouble believing in what bill deagle said, but what about george green? what about the radio show were some guy says he recieved an email from a UN friend saying he's leaving the uk in october? What about the information david icke got from a traffic warden about being informed of a coming war which will create civil unrest?
No discredit to the man but he sells real estate for flips sake. Thats nearly as bad as a car salesman. jeez! no offense to anyone here but to be succsessful at either profession you have to be an unfeeling parasite!

personally, bill deagle doesnt hold true for me. He believes himself but I dont.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:57 PM   #15
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I myself am biased regarding this topic as I have followed David Wilcock for several years now and love and respect him more than any other intuitive; his central message being much more positive and his information being so clear, backed up by research and data, for those who haven't read his three recent articles on DivineCosmos.com , please do so.

One of the reasons is that he is centrally grounded in some of the most excellent channeled material ever written: The Law of One.

One of his more central points as to why events will not transpire the way Bill Deagle has said, is that with a full financial collapse followed by a nuclear detonation, and total martial law, would constitute a wholesale shift of planetary consciousness to the negative.

The Law of One material speaks of a "Quarantine" by higher forces, which prevents interference of our planetary "free will" by forces from elsewhere. It opens randomly, and typically allows Positive, or service to other, forces in, because the planet is already slightly negative.

The point is to maintain somewhat of a balance between positive and negative, so that those on earth can choose one of the other. Bill Deagle's series of events would constitute too much of an infringement to be allowed.
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I myself am biased regarding this topic as I have followed David Wilcock for several years now and love and respect him more than any other intuitive; his central message being much more positive and his information being so clear, backed up by research and data, for those who haven't read his three recent articles on DivineCosmos.com , please do so.

One of the reasons is that he is centrally grounded in some of the most excellent channeled material ever written: The Law of One.

One of his more central points as to why events will not transpire the way Bill Deagle has said, is that with a full financial collapse followed by a nuclear detonation, and total martial law, would constitute a wholesale shift of planetary consciousness to the negative.

The Law of One material speaks of a "Quarantine" by higher forces, which prevents interference of our planetary "free will" by forces from elsewhere. It opens randomly, and typically allows Positive, or service to other, forces in, because the planet is already slightly negative.

The point is to maintain somewhat of a balance between positive and negative, so that those on earth can choose one of the other. Bill Deagle's series of events would constitute too much of an infringement to be allowed.
the thing is many people say that ET's aren't going to allow WW3, yet they have allowed two world wars already. And let's not forget that in the last world war there were two nuclear bombs dropped. I agree that WW3 would be way more catastrophic, but are we being a bit arrogant by saying they will save us? It's hard for me to be able to tell whether they will or not because i simply don't know how they percieve humans, or how they think. We are like ants to them so would they really help such a primitive species? i hope they do.
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the thing is many people say that ET's aren't going to allow WW3, yet they have allowed two world wars already. And let's not forget that in the last world war there were two nuclear bombs dropped. I agree that WW3 would be way more catastrophic, but are we being a bit arrogant by saying they will save us? It's hard for me to be able to tell whether they will or not because i simply don't know how they percieve humans, or how they think. We are like ants to them so would they really help such a primitive species? i hope they do.
#1 - Maybe the ET's didn't think us dumbass humans were so dumbass as to actually use nukes. Twice. So they weren't paying as close attention then. (Talking out my **** here.)
#2 - Maybe the ET's aren't protecting us because it is my understanding that countries are always testing their nuke weapon technology. I seem to recall something on webpal.org/ki4u.com (forget which but basically the same) about some Chinese nuke test having a fallout cloud spread around the Northern hemisphere back in the '60s/'70s? Can't remember.
#3 - I wish the ET's were there protecting us from nukes, I really, really do.


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I Found This on a forum. Thought it was interesting.

"Ostensibly picking up the chatter on radical Islamic blogs, a supposed deep undercover intelligence operative codenamed "Archangel", reports that Islamic terrorists have posted on the Internet certain "Commandments Before The Strike", that are alleged instructions for actions that Muslims are to take regarding an imminent large-scale attack - hints at nuclear - on the United States, specifically New York and Washington DC, slated to take place on October 7, 2008.

Most U. S. intelligence officials dismissed Zarqawi's letter as wishful thinking until Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's second in command, appeared on al-Jazeera, the official television network of Saudi Arabia, to deliver a message to the American people.

In the message, which was broadcast Aug. 8, al-Zawahiri said: "What you have seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of the blackouts by your media, are only the losses of the initial clashes. ... You will soon experience horrors that will make you forget the horrors you have encountered in Vietnam."

The al-Qaida chieftain went on to say: "Jihadist forces have been established in all of Western Europe to defend the powerless within the nation. For the crimes that the Crusaders have committed against the Muslims will be reaped by Christians and Jews throughout the Western world."

Zawahiri's video messages are viewed by intelligence officials as telling signs that a terrorist attack is imminent. His televised message Sept. 6, 2004, took place before the December 6, 2004, bombing of the U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, while his message of June 17, 2005, preceded the London bombings."
Assuming, for a moment, this is true, damn someone needs to tell the terrorists about the NWO/Illuminati. It's not us! It's the crazy controllers! We would love to see them taken down too! Somehow though I am sure I am forgetting a detail about how they are funded by NWO types or in cahoots with them or something.

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Old 10-06-2008, 04:49 AM   #18
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Assuming, for a moment, this is true, damn someone needs to tell the terrorists about the NWO/Illuminati. It's not us! It's the crazy controllers! We would love to see them taken down too! Somehow though I am sure I am forgetting a detail about how they are funded by NWO types or in cahoots with them or something.

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Yeh, that was that documentary "The Power of Nightmares" it's good-the whole conflict is inflamed and engineered by the puppetmasters. Any time I hear "Al Queda" or the "terrist" I immediately think ah, some propaganda for the trembling herd.
Good to watch for the clues of the narrative they are pushing on us.
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:05 AM   #19
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I haven't been able to listen to the BIll Deagle call (it won't play for some reason), but I got the gist of it from what people are posting. Someone said that the ET's won't let it happen, but they let how many wars in history happen before? A ton, why would we suddenly expect them to take care of this? We shouldn't.

Don't forget that the US Air Force "misplaced" nuclear weapons in North Dakota last year, and they still have not been recovered. They are loose somewhere in the US.

Oct 7th is scheduled by web bot to have an earthquake in Vancouver/Seattle area. My friend that lives there says that there is also an over due volcano there that is usually snow capped. Lately the snow has been melting, even now that it is getting colder out. My wife and I were recently in the area and drove over the I-90 bridge to that island (I can't think of the name), but we both had a bad feeling about it. She recalled having a dejavu about that exact bridge collapsing. I believe that will be the main area affected on Oct 7th.

As far as the LA area is concerned, I believe it will someday be destroyed, but I do not think it will be Oct 7th. It will happen somethime in the future, but I am not sure exactly when just yet.
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I've heard the Deagle phone call and listening to Wilcox now. I've read the transcripts and posts about David Icke, Half Past Human, George Green etc

I'm taking all these as perspectives and it's clear that things are happening, but I'm not freaking out. I figure allowing fear and panic to control me won't help one bit, not for planning nor for keeping positive.

That being said, I'm not blind at events unfolding. I'm going to buy silver coins tomorrow since it can't hurt, silver will go up and it's better to invest it than sit in my bank account, waiting to be frozen if things go bad. Gonna take out extra money and buy some extra food.

I'm not going crazy and running for the hills, but being smart and having a plan gives me piece of mind.

Stay positive, don't panic but be smart about it.
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Smacker agreed! No need to be crazy, just be aware, and ready in the mind!
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Why does anyone pay any attention to the web bots? He didn't say Oct. 7 earthquake in Seattle. That's for November or December. You really shouldn't give that guy any credance. His bots will read all the responses here, and all this confusion will become part of his next report. So what does that prove? Just that Bill and Kerry contributed to the confusion by posting that Deagle vision, which is just his personal vision, filtered through his personal filters.

This is for the bots: I had a dream in which I was part of a Team of 35 or 40 people. We were under the direction of a coach. As we disbanded he called after us, "Remember, you are glowing balls of golden light." And I looked and saw that indeed we are.
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I've heard the Deagle phone call and listening to Wilcox now. I've read the transcripts and posts about David Icke, Half Past Human, George Green etc

I'm taking all these as perspectives and it's clear that things are happening, but I'm not freaking out. I figure allowing fear and panic to control me won't help one bit, not for planning nor for keeping positive.

That being said, I'm not blind at events unfolding. I'm going to buy silver coins tomorrow since it can't hurt, silver will go up and it's better to invest it than sit in my bank account, waiting to be frozen if things go bad. Gonna take out extra money and buy some extra food.

I'm not going crazy and running for the hills, but being smart and having a plan gives me peace of mind.

Stay positive, don't panic but be smart about it.
Regarding Half Past Human data, it just came to me that he is mining the unconscious group mind, perhaps governed by a not-so-sane morphogentic field and its ruling entities [see Rupert Sheldrake]. Lies persist, truth only leads to higher truths, so does not persist for long. He is mining for the persisting lies (all persisting "truths" contain a lie or lies to make them persist).

I would suggest he look at what does not persist, but I am not sure he is trying to be that esoteric and I'm not sure if it would pay either. But if our collective journey is about awareness of higher and higher truths, what use is Half Past Human data? Another distraction?
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the thing is many people say that ET's aren't going to allow WW3, yet they have allowed two world wars already. And let's not forget that in the last world war there were two nuclear bombs dropped. I agree that WW3 would be way more catastrophic, but are we being a bit arrogant by saying they will save us? It's hard for me to be able to tell whether they will or not because i simply don't know how they percieve humans, or how they think. We are like ants to them so would they really help such a primitive species? i hope they do.
The bombs are what got the star people's attention. As one whistleblower once said, "Look out, the kids have found the matches." Once we gained knowledge of the nuclear genie, they became quite interested in what was going on here. One thing led to another, the Eisenhower treaty, etc. and now, here we are. Millions of contactees. The odds are so great of total destruction with Terra bristling with nuclear teeth that the star people are now compelled to take action to prevent us from destroying the ecology of this sector of the galaxy for eons. This is in all peoples best interest above and below. BTW we are not like ants to them, we are like chipmunks. Peace.
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:08 PM   #25
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It's just Karma, good or bad, whatever transpires is the exhaustion of imperfections. Souls will be and are placed to buffer negativity and the effects of "negative" karmas upon the earth. But, even a cool breeze stirs up the dust. Reasonable preparedness is a good thing. The Supreme Being is all merciful to the humble. The creation is not broken.
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