david wilcock

sunshineseastar · 11-13-2008, 03:24 PM

mr. david wilcock pretends to have it all figured out....... i was a bg fan of his work. but now and i quote " Although I was vegan / vegetarian for seven years I do now use animal protein — predominantly because I work so much and run my body so hard that I rapidly get weak without it." and this brother has traded fruit for animals.......read all about it here:

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?op...=415&Itemid=70

this is just not a true statement......the human bod does not need animals to stay strong....as a matter of fact eating animals lowers your vibration......sure it´s a differant situation for free range meat but imagine where the meat is comming from on this cruise ship.....if he doesn´t know this simple fact i don´t have much faith in him havin as much info as he claims..... this the same dude who preaches about service to self not being cool.......but if you check out this brothers web site it´s all me me me....look at me........

doese this brother care for the eco system.......i think not......now that he´s on his big fat cruise.......

gosh even this guy has crossed over to the dark side........the side of the elitists......maybe he started out with good intentions but man the dude has lost sight of the shore.....big time.......please read this link and give some feed back..........this is my gut feeling.......

jaby · 11-13-2008, 03:36 PM

Honestly....? I think you have joined this forum specifically to try to discredit David Wilcock and put people off him....

Oh, and to cause division.

Nice try.....

(not)

edit...just seen that you joined in October..this is your second post. But I stand by what I've said above in regards to motive....

sunshineseastar · 11-13-2008, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby

Honestly....? I think you have joined this forum specifically to try to discredit David Wilcock and put people off him....

Oh, and to cause division.

Nice try.....

(not)

edit...just seen that you joined in October..this is your second post. But I stand by what I've said above in regards to motive....

and did you even check this out ???? i s a big fan f hi .......but hnestly i thing at this point hes rapped up in self service....... just take a look......
peace

GregorArturo · 11-13-2008, 03:49 PM

I've thoroughly enjoyed DW's work however as of recently I have not liked his most recent posts. Something is astray with him in my opinion. However, I am a professional fire dancer, and when I am in large routines where I have 3500+ calorie diet, I need meat to function as much as I don't really care for it. It has the needed proteins we really need to function at high endurance levels, and I will never take whey protein. Regardless, of all the facts out there, meat gets me by and works much more efficiently when I demand the energy. As I say, it all requires balance in life, including diet.

jaby · 11-13-2008, 04:02 PM

And what a utterly dis-respectful title you have used for this thread.

I'm hitting the report button, by the way and let the Mods decide what they think about it....

sunshineseastar · 11-13-2008, 04:12 PM

wow like your going to push the button and report me ??? grow up......and don´t be a sheeple......think for yourself instead of tryin to silence me.....people have a right to see this thread and think for them selves....oh and you still did not answer my question.....DID YOU READ THE PAGE ????

jaby · 11-13-2008, 04:16 PM

Yes I am reporting your opening post...the Mods can decide if it is OK or not. David Wilcock does not deserve what you are chucking at him. IMO....and this forum does not need a dis-respectful thread title like the one you have used.....especially as David has done such a lot for people in general and Project Camelot in particular.

sunshineseastar · 11-13-2008, 04:20 PM

okay so you can play police officer!!!!!!!
way to go...........oh and did you read what i was talking about.....

sunshineseastar · 11-13-2008, 04:23 PM

and the reason this bothers me it because inocent animals live in really bad conditions before they get sloughtered.....they have no freewill at all....yet do they not have souls to??? hummans are not better just different......!!!!! everything deserves to live in harmony with the earth......

371 · 11-13-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sunshineseastar

and the reason this bothers me it because inocent animals live in really bad conditions before they get sloughtered.....they have no freewill at all....yet do they not have souls to??? hummans are not better just different......!!!!! everything deserves to live in harmony with the earth......

If you're gonna debate the 'morality' or whatever about eating meat that's one thing- but don't bust the guy's balls for what he does in his own life.

Orion Morris · 11-13-2008, 04:21 PM

By censoring different ideas you are becoming and acting like the same evil that supresses us...

jaby · 11-13-2008, 04:24 PM

Yeah..sure...

It's not up to me...it's up to the Mods and Administrators as to what they want to do with a thread like this....just making sure they take a look.

Orion Morris · 11-13-2008, 04:14 PM

We shouldnt worry about people who do not believe every piece of Avalon or Camelot... Just because somebody doesnt trust Wilcock doesnt mean it has to be reported... IMO The people who are supporting Obama are more off base then someone who is disscerning from Wilcock.... It is better to question everything then it is to support something just because.....

AndyH · 11-13-2008, 04:26 PM

I can't say as I care much for (imho) stuff about jump gates or aliens or much of what DW talks about.

However, I also don't care much for people who make blind statements and expect others to take it as fact.

We as a species have been omnivores since time immemorial, the only difference nowdays being all this processed **** we call food...be it animal or vegetable based.

You can't be sure of the quality of anything you eat unless you either hunt it yourself or grow it yourself.

As for DW, I really couldn't care either way. The Camelot Project is all about individual witness statements and as such none of it can be proven.

Seeker Mom · 11-13-2008, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris

We shouldnt worry about people who do not believe every piece of Avalon or Camelot... Just because somebody doesnt trust Wilcock doesnt mean it has to be reported... IMO The people who are supporting Obama are more off base then someone who is disscerning from Wilcock.... It is better to question everything then it is to support something just because.....

David is a big supporter of Obama's. That bothers me a whole lot more than his eating meat to strengthen his body.

Oh, and the cruise looks like tons of fun. That is the next itinerary I plan to take. I'd love to take a cruise with some great speakers for the days at sea. I hope David continues to have a restful week.

Orion Morris · 11-13-2008, 04:42 PM

I agree Seeker.... It is very bothering that he supports Obama... I have no hard feelings towards David... I think he says some really great stuff... I could care less if he eats meat... looks like he could use some actually... Hell I wouldnt mind going on that cruse..

Either way... This thread shouldnt be edited.... Censorship is a tool of the ignorant and afraid.... It is the same force that has kept information like Davids out of the public for so long.... To censor this thread would damage the integrity of the fourm... Jaby you shouldnt report anything... even if you do the mods will probably not do anything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeker Mom

David is a big supporter of Obama's. That bothers me a whole lot more than his eating meat to strengthen his body.

Oh, and the cruise looks like tons of fun. That is the next itinerary I plan to take. I'd love to take a cruise with some great speakers for the days at sea. I hope David continues to have a restful week.

Harper · 11-13-2008, 05:05 PM

Right now at this moment in time it does not matter what you eat. In ancient times there was an understanding between hunter and animal but we don't have a clue now about this sort of thing anymore.

It only matters what you think about what you eat. Animals are birthed on this earth and go back to a single consciousness, this does not mean that you should be cruel or disrespectful to them but we have been eating meat for so long now that it could be by the same logic -actually bad for you to give it up. I know myself I had to go back to eating meat as I turned into an envelope, just when I cut out red meat.

I'm not standing up for David either as I do not think he has a good hold of the nature of things at the moment.

But both of you exchanging threats now is just silly.

BTW if you ever saw the experiments done in the 70's by a botenist about the "witness plants" we would be left eating nothing at all. And don't come back and tell me about fruit, fruit contains the babies of other plants, everything including stones has consciousness, who is anyone to say that an apple might not want the experience of being eaten?

Orion Morris · 11-13-2008, 05:11 PM

censorship... nice... use the same energy to supress ourselves that is being used to supress everything else.... how do you justify this? If it is ok to bash Bush or Obama then it should be ok to bash Wilcock... WTF... If it bothers somebody that much they should have the energy to let it pass by.... I am sure we are all going to experience something more offensive then a "poor david wilcock" thread.

motov · 11-13-2008, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris

censorship... nice... use the same energy to supress ourselves that is being used to supress everything else.... how do you justify this? If it is ok to bash Bush or Obama then it should be ok to bash Wilcock... WTF... If it bothers somebody that much they should have the energy to let it pass by.... I am sure we are all going to experience something more offensive then a "poor david wilcock" thread.

for me it comes to how one can bash David`s information based on hes "taste`s"
its quite odd i think...

Orion Morris · 11-13-2008, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motov

for me it comes to how one can bash David`s information based on hes "taste`s"
its quite odd i think...

I agree with you it is nieve to bash David based on his taste... but the OP is

skeptical because David is suppsed to be on a higher level....

Either way... it is just as wrong to censor something.. and then allow another version of the same thing... we can bash whoever we want to and that is allowed... we bash eachother... I mean f*ck, if we are all one then the same rules should be applied to everybody.....

The title of the OP is not even close to some of the offensive posts....

I am not a fan of Obama or Bush.... but we have had some really angry threads about both of those people.... rightly so IMO... I have nothing against David but I think that the censorship is BS!!!

sunshineseastar · 11-13-2008, 05:47 PM

[QUOTE=Orion Morris;78875]

skeptical because David is suppsed to be on a higher level....

orion... you hit the nail square on the head thanks........

Sarahmay · 11-13-2008, 05:57 PM

Humans are omnivores. Most people, if given the opportunity, will eat meat if it is available. How many "lapsed" vegetarians do you know? I know many.

I do eat mainly free range humanely slaughtered meat, which I select carefully and pay dearly for. And I eat small portions.

This holier than thou stuff about meat eating is out of line.

Please--sunshineseastar--eat whatever you wish but stop policing other people's plates.

Orion Morris · 11-13-2008, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarahmay

humanely slaughtered meat

hahahaha.... kind of an oxymoron there.

Who gives a sh*t what meat we are eating... it is all nasty... the arguement is not about eating your fruits and vegtibles... it was just simple questioning one of the main sources of information here on Avalon....

question everything... right?

sunshineseastar · 11-13-2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris

hahahaha.... kind of an oxymoron there.

Who gives a sh*t what meat we are eating... it is all nasty... the arguement is not about eating your fruits and vegtibles... it was just simple questioning one of the main sources of information here on Avalon....

question everything... right?

again orion morris stated beautifuly..........i may not be the best comunicator but i´m glad you understand my point.......

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 11-13-2008, 06:12 PM

since this has kinda slid into a meat eating thread i think ill post about me being mainly vegan(apart from accepting dairy food gifts/meals when visiting friends). i wondered about the possible feminising effects of soya?? its a complete protein and therefore it is not essential to eat animals but i sometimes think about what the effects of soya are.. been veggie since 2000 ... not been ill or had a cold ect since as long as i can remember early 2005 last i recall.. i will eat an animal if it gets rough and i have to kill it to eat it.. but i will not eat an animal i have no killed an butchered myself.. oh and i like some of wilcocks stuff.. sounds like he will be taking the chip and eating gmo ectect(obama supporter) he obv has other concerns

11-13-2008, 03:24 PM	#1
sunshineseastar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 45	david wilcock mr. david wilcock pretends to have it all figured out....... i was a bg fan of his work. but now and i quote " Although I was vegan / vegetarian for seven years I do now use animal protein — predominantly because I work so much and run my body so hard that I rapidly get weak without it." and this brother has traded fruit for animals.......read all about it here: http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?op...=415&Itemid=70 this is just not a true statement......the human bod does not need animals to stay strong....as a matter of fact eating animals lowers your vibration......sure it´s a differant situation for free range meat but imagine where the meat is comming from on this cruise ship.....if he doesn´t know this simple fact i don´t have much faith in him havin as much info as he claims..... this the same dude who preaches about service to self not being cool.......but if you check out this brothers web site it´s all me me me....look at me........ doese this brother care for the eco system.......i think not......now that he´s on his big fat cruise....... gosh even this guy has crossed over to the dark side........the side of the elitists......maybe he started out with good intentions but man the dude has lost sight of the shore.....big time.......please read this link and give some feed back..........this is my gut feeling.......

11-13-2008, 03:36 PM	#2
jaby Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 254	Re: poor little david wilcock Honestly....? I think you have joined this forum specifically to try to discredit David Wilcock and put people off him.... Oh, and to cause division. Nice try..... (not) edit...just seen that you joined in October..this is your second post. But I stand by what I've said above in regards to motive.... Last edited by jaby; 11-13-2008 at 03:39 PM.

11-13-2008, 03:49 PM	#4
GregorArturo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 560	Re: poor little david wilcock I've thoroughly enjoyed DW's work however as of recently I have not liked his most recent posts. Something is astray with him in my opinion. However, I am a professional fire dancer, and when I am in large routines where I have 3500+ calorie diet, I need meat to function as much as I don't really care for it. It has the needed proteins we really need to function at high endurance levels, and I will never take whey protein. Regardless, of all the facts out there, meat gets me by and works much more efficiently when I demand the energy. As I say, it all requires balance in life, including diet.

11-13-2008, 04:02 PM	#5
jaby Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 254	Re: poor little david wilcock And what a utterly dis-respectful title you have used for this thread. I'm hitting the report button, by the way and let the Mods decide what they think about it....

11-13-2008, 04:12 PM	#6
sunshineseastar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 45	Re: poor little david wilcock wow like your going to push the button and report me ??? grow up......and don´t be a sheeple......think for yourself instead of tryin to silence me.....people have a right to see this thread and think for them selves....oh and you still did not answer my question.....DID YOU READ THE PAGE ????

11-13-2008, 04:16 PM	#7
jaby Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 254	Re: poor little david wilcock Yes I am reporting your opening post...the Mods can decide if it is OK or not. David Wilcock does not deserve what you are chucking at him. IMO....and this forum does not need a dis-respectful thread title like the one you have used.....especially as David has done such a lot for people in general and Project Camelot in particular.

11-13-2008, 04:20 PM	#8
sunshineseastar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 45	Re: poor little david wilcock okay so you can play police officer!!!!!!! way to go...........oh and did you read what i was talking about.....

11-13-2008, 04:23 PM	#9
sunshineseastar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 45	Re: poor little david wilcock and the reason this bothers me it because inocent animals live in really bad conditions before they get sloughtered.....they have no freewill at all....yet do they not have souls to??? hummans are not better just different......!!!!! everything deserves to live in harmony with the earth......

11-13-2008, 04:21 PM	#11
Orion Morris Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 416	Re: poor little david wilcock By censoring different ideas you are becoming and acting like the same evil that supresses us...

11-13-2008, 04:24 PM	#12
jaby Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 254	Re: poor little david wilcock Yeah..sure... It's not up to me...it's up to the Mods and Administrators as to what they want to do with a thread like this....just making sure they take a look.

11-13-2008, 04:14 PM	#13
Orion Morris Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 416	Re: poor little david wilcock We shouldnt worry about people who do not believe every piece of Avalon or Camelot... Just because somebody doesnt trust Wilcock doesnt mean it has to be reported... IMO The people who are supporting Obama are more off base then someone who is disscerning from Wilcock.... It is better to question everything then it is to support something just because.....

11-13-2008, 04:26 PM	#14
AndyH Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 289	Re: poor little david wilcock I can't say as I care much for (imho) stuff about jump gates or aliens or much of what DW talks about. However, I also don't care much for people who make blind statements and expect others to take it as fact. We as a species have been omnivores since time immemorial, the only difference nowdays being all this processed **** we call food...be it animal or vegetable based. You can't be sure of the quality of anything you eat unless you either hunt it yourself or grow it yourself. As for DW, I really couldn't care either way. The Camelot Project is all about individual witness statements and as such none of it can be proven.

11-13-2008, 05:05 PM	#17
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: poor little david wilcock Right now at this moment in time it does not matter what you eat. In ancient times there was an understanding between hunter and animal but we don't have a clue now about this sort of thing anymore. It only matters what you think about what you eat. Animals are birthed on this earth and go back to a single consciousness, this does not mean that you should be cruel or disrespectful to them but we have been eating meat for so long now that it could be by the same logic -actually bad for you to give it up. I know myself I had to go back to eating meat as I turned into an envelope, just when I cut out red meat. I'm not standing up for David either as I do not think he has a good hold of the nature of things at the moment. But both of you exchanging threats now is just silly. BTW if you ever saw the experiments done in the 70's by a botenist about the "witness plants" we would be left eating nothing at all. And don't come back and tell me about fruit, fruit contains the babies of other plants, everything including stones has consciousness, who is anyone to say that an apple might not want the experience of being eaten?

11-13-2008, 05:11 PM	#18
Orion Morris Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 416	Re: poor little david wilcock censorship... nice... use the same energy to supress ourselves that is being used to supress everything else.... how do you justify this? If it is ok to bash Bush or Obama then it should be ok to bash Wilcock... WTF... If it bothers somebody that much they should have the energy to let it pass by.... I am sure we are all going to experience something more offensive then a "poor david wilcock" thread.

11-13-2008, 05:47 PM	#21
sunshineseastar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 45	Re: poor little david wilcock [QUOTE=Orion Morris;78875] skeptical because David is suppsed to be on a higher level.... orion... you hit the nail square on the head thanks........

11-13-2008, 05:57 PM	#22
Sarahmay Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sedona Arizona Posts: 549	Re: david wilcock Humans are omnivores. Most people, if given the opportunity, will eat meat if it is available. How many "lapsed" vegetarians do you know? I know many. I do eat mainly free range humanely slaughtered meat, which I select carefully and pay dearly for. And I eat small portions. This holier than thou stuff about meat eating is out of line. Please--sunshineseastar--eat whatever you wish but stop policing other people's plates.

11-13-2008, 06:12 PM	#25
pineal-pilot-in merkabah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 1,153	Re: david wilcock since this has kinda slid into a meat eating thread i think ill post about me being mainly vegan(apart from accepting dairy food gifts/meals when visiting friends). i wondered about the possible feminising effects of soya?? its a complete protein and therefore it is not essential to eat animals but i sometimes think about what the effects of soya are.. been veggie since 2000 ... not been ill or had a cold ect since as long as i can remember early 2005 last i recall.. i will eat an animal if it gets rough and i have to kill it to eat it.. but i will not eat an animal i have no killed an butchered myself.. oh and i like some of wilcocks stuff.. sounds like he will be taking the chip and eating gmo ectect(obama supporter) he obv has other concerns