Strange things I have noticed lately

Ammit · 11-26-2008, 08:09 PM

Just lately I have been doing my usual star watching along with the moon, now, last week I was stood utside work at 7am having a smoke. I looked up at the moon, now, being a bushcrafter I played a little game of finding south using a house roof top as a marker.

Two days later when back at work, again outside having a smoke. I looked to where the moon was 2 days previous, wasnt there.

I turned around , looked up and there it was, now I have over the last few months noticed some strange things with the moon but not 145 degrees difference in 2 days.

Sounds awefully like bull**** but it is not.

Has anyone else noticed strange astral things lately?

Mercuriel · 11-26-2008, 08:14 PM

Yep - As well as unusual declinations of the Sun as it transits the Sky. I've been noticing this though for about a Year or so and when I tell others about it - Well y'know how that goes LOL...

Ammit · 11-26-2008, 08:17 PM

Yeah, tell me about it.
Was concerned to put it here but thought sodit. The sun as you say is changing too, as I have to keep changing the angles, lol

John aka#404 · 11-26-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercuriel

Yep - As well as unusual declinations of the Sun as it transits the Sky. I've been noticing this though for about a Year or so and when I tell others about it - Well y'know how that goes LOL...

OMG finally somebody else to talk to

For 2-3 years now I have noticed the oddities (declinations, brightness) and mention to people and of course, they just stare at me.

I do not project any theories... only the question "what is going on?"

John
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burgundia · 11-26-2008, 09:51 PM

You've made me think about it. I'll start observing the sky too.

11-27-2008, 01:03 AM

Strange you should have this thread, I was thinking of starting one.

Every night I take a walk to gaze at the sky. Three nights ago it was an incredibly clear night out as I looked up the stars seemed to bright so I stopped to check for the usual formations. I thought they were strangely low in the sky, I don't know if it was an optical illusion but then I noticed one large star with hundreds of pinpoints of light around it in a random pattern. I thought it was strange and just as I was thinking this it disappeared. I looked away and caught it appearing again out of the corner of my eye. I just stood there dumbfounded wondering what it was. As soon as I formulated that thought I saw a large white helicopter, larger than any I had ever seen before with a red stripe on it, very low in the sky flying in that direction. It made no sound and came from a direction where there is no known airport or military airstrip. I thought how odd???? Then another plane coming from an opposite direction, higher in the sky was headed that way almost in an intersecting pattern. I tried to see what was happening and then they all seemed to disappear behind the treeline.

I've watched the skies for many years and seen strange independantly moving lights but nothing like this. I'm still shaking my head as to what was really there, I know it isn't my imagination.

blastawaycas · 11-27-2008, 01:19 AM

Agree with average joe i have observed the moon in positions i have never seen it in before as i took the dogs on the front late at night i was somewhat startled to see the moon over the top of our roof (not literally) never seen it there before, it always arises from the north sea over eston hills in an arc looking south this path took it right above me as i stated it somewhaat startled me

and as for the sun my goodness....how dazzingly bright lately

Sol Invictus · 11-27-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blastawaycas

Agree with average joe i have observed the moon in positions i have never seen it in before as i took the dogs on the front late at night i was somewhat startled to see the moon over the top of our roof (not literally) never seen it there before, it always arises from the north sea over eston hills in an arc looking south this path took it right above me as i stated it somewhaat startled me

and as for the sun my goodness....how dazzingly bright lately

Agree on both counts. Moons out of position at times, the suns way brighter than it ever has been, and some times watching the stars I get the idea we are under a holographic sky and not the 'real deal'.

Ammit · 11-27-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

Agree on both counts. Moons out of position at times, the suns way brighter than it ever has been, and some times watching the stars I get the idea we are under a holographic sky and not the 'real deal'.

Bloody hell Sol, thats some idea.
Do you believe they could actually pull that off?
It would be mammoth, with all the different time zones, sun sets and rises.

Harper · 11-27-2008, 05:10 PM

Well right, good to know. A moon that was so huge and beautiful that I called my friend to say go outside and look, just disappeared. I actually did a 360 looking for it, and continued all the evening. They of course thought I was gone a little in the head.

Of course there is no reason not to believe that we are moving, shifting literally to another place, I just presumed we (planets, stars, etc... ) would all be going together.

Interesting interesting folks.

Kulapops · 11-27-2008, 05:40 PM

Well, as the moon reflects the sun's light, then of course a brighter sun would = brighter moon.

I too think the sun is brighter than it was, but that's something I've noticed over the last years, rather than something recent. I thought it was because I'm a little sensitive to bright lights anyway (boy do I hate looking into headlights on full-beam!).

As for sun's position, I'm no astronomer neither, but isn't the sun supposed to track a different rise and set on the horizon between solsitices? So It should move.

If it's doing a loop-de-loop in the sky on course, well, that's another matter.

What I've never understood is that if the sun always rises in the east, if it rises in a different position every day, then what is happening to east?? (I think it has something to do with the difference between grid north/magnetic north and true north. Maybe someone knows the answer to this, please?)

Personally, I'm interested in the Zeitgeist reference to the stars of orion's belt linking up with Sirius low in the sky to point to the sunrise on the 25th Dec. I've been looking for sirius, and it ain't been there, then it was , and then it wasn't.

This doesn't make sense to me, I thought all stars were fixed in position and revolved around the North Star (northern hem.). The only explanation I can think of is that orion has to be high enough in the sky to enable sirius to be seen (hence it's appearance/disappearance).

As for phases of the moon, bear in mind it takes two weeks to go from full to nothing, not four, so it goes from new (sliver) to half moon in just a week. Depending on where you are in the cycle (it's sinusoidal like everything else) you could get a fair increase/decrease in size in just two days.

Sol Invictus · 11-27-2008, 05:53 PM

As the owner of a Newtonian reflector, an avid user of http://www.stellarium.org/ software, a very well trained navigator by both day and night and also navigation whilst thousands of feet in the air, I am very well aware of what #should# be where and why the mechanics, physics and mathematics say it should be there.

However, I am not talking about a constant change (although the sun is much brighter, painfully so on a permanent basis) I am talking about possible mistakes in the holographic sky, or what ever is going on up there.

I once watched a star form in the sky over head whilst high over the Uk, change a few colours and then blink off again.

Some thing is not right in the skies, and I don't think its some thing we are going to be able to figure out in the near future; just keeping tabs and making sure each other witnesses know they are not 'seeing things' or going 'crazy'.

Ammit · 11-27-2008, 06:01 PM

Quote: I once watched a star form in the sky over head whilst high over the Uk, change a few colours and then blink off again.

Ah, did not want to mention that one at first, wanted to see how many ridicules I got, then forgot it.

I see that many times down here, thought perhaps it was a plane with its lights on as we are not too far from southampton airport. As you say a bright white dot that is totally brighter then the rest, changes a hue or red and blue in slow flashes then, poof,, gone.

Dont know if this makes a difference but I usually see them about NNE.

Kulapops · 11-27-2008, 06:07 PM

I don't doubt your qualifications. Or that mysterious things go on, or are going on. Some things, such as a moon appearing to grow in size a lot over two or three days are possible.

Would you happen to know how if the sun always rises in the east, that it rises in a different spot everyday?

That's always fascinated me.

The idea that a giant holograph is covering the entire night (and daytime?) sky is also fascinating and imaginitive, but my opinion would be that it's a lot of technology to explain away conclusively some anomolies in the sky.

Didn't John Lear maintain that the moon is a giant space station? If it's under it's own power, then it should be able to zip around the night sky at will. That would also explain it's strange behaviour, but both this theory and the holograph theory can't both be right, can they ?

What happens when you are flying in a plane at night at 30,000 feet? Presumably this is under the floor of the holograph too? that's a long way to project clearly. My feeling would be that if we're technologically advanced enough to prodcue such equipment, there's no way there'd be gliches with it.

Altered Species · 11-27-2008, 06:39 PM

Okay, this is pretty intresting. First of all I had almost the same occurence happen 2 years ago and blew it off. This happened in late January or early Febuary.

I was staying at a place where I would have to go outside to smoke and the first night I was just star gazing and noticed where the moon was. The second day at the same time as the night before I had another smoke and I noticed the Moon was atleast 45 degrees to the right of where it was the night before.

I am a surveyor by profession and I have taken solar observations with a surveying instrument of the sun(with a special lens) and I have even checked out the moon at night just for the heck of it. You would be suprised how fast the sun and moon moves when looking at either one through a theodolite(surveying instrument). We have handheld calculators that determines our position by just taking readings of the sun and entering a time, but I personally can't tell you how these calculations are actually made.

What I don't get is how the sun rises in the east and set's in the west in what is realitively the same position on the horizon only at slightly different times(within minutes) through out the year(unless in Alaska) and the moon can be this far out of position on the horizon in one day.

I would really like to hear an explanation of this by someone who is into astrology.

Sol Invictus · 11-27-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kulapops

Some things, such as a moon appearing to grow in size a lot over two or three days are possible.

I am only going to say this one more time; If I say that the moon was wrong, its like it is written in stone and an absolute. I am not wasting 20 years of knowledge on a funny haha.

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Would you happen to know how if the sun always rises in the east, that it rises in a different spot everyday?

Yes. The earths rotation is not perfect, nor is the earths orbit. We have a 'wobble' along side an elongated orbit. In summer parts of the earth are tilted toward the sun i.e. its summer in the artic and 24 hour sunlight. Then wobbling along it slides over and the other end points at the sun, hence antartic gets 24hr summer sun. The sun therefore will rise and set in a slightly different spot every day due to the earths movement along its orbit as well as its tilt of axis. This is why we get 'longest day / shortest night' and 'Longest night/shortest day'.

The above is very simplified but I hope it paints a good enough picture.

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The idea that a giant holograph is covering the entire night (and daytime?) sky is also fascinating and imaginitive, but my opinion would be that it's a lot of technology to explain away conclusively some anomolies in the sky.

I'm not saying its concrete truth, just an observation of events I have seen and thought about.

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Didn't John Lear maintain that the moon is a giant space station? If it's under it's own power, then it should be able to zip around the night sky at will. That would also explain it's strange behaviour, but both this theory and the holograph theory can't both be right, can they ?

The entire above statement shows your being an ****. Did you bother to actually think about what you just wrote? JL said it was an old space station that arrived under its own power and has signs of being mined and old constructions in places upon it. As for the 'zip around the night sky at will' comment, please go and read up about gravity and mass effecting objects in close vicinity to others.

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What happens when you are flying in a plane at night at 30,000 feet? Presumably this is under the floor of the holograph too? that's a long way to project clearly. My feeling would be that if we're technologically advanced enough to prodcue such equipment, there's no way there'd be gliches with it.

The satellites are in space and would have to project through maybe 100 miles of SPACE. No air distortion, nothing. The illusions is pointed downwards, not ground upwards.
As for glitches.... hubble failed, space shuttles fail.. aircraft fail... nuclear reactors fails... cars fail.... surgical equipment fails..

Nothing bar nothing is fail or fool proof.

Also, it is only one thought of mine because of seeing so many different but aerial events that I cannot explain through any normal physical explanations available through 'normal' channels of scientific reason.

Sol Invictus · 11-27-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammit

Bloody hell Sol, thats some idea.
Do you believe they could actually pull that off?
It would be mammoth, with all the different time zones, sun sets and rises.

I know for 100% certain that they can 'make' fake stars in the sky. I also know for 100% certain that they can make 'plasma balls rush across the sky' and 'voices or sounds' come from them.

I know for 100% certain that with NASA doing over 190 secret military satellites with unknown capabilities 'up there' I have no doubt at all that it could be done.

It would actually explain why we see and hear of people seeing the moon twice, the sun in the wrong part of the sky and stars shifting and dancing. However...

It would be an undertaking so huge that the need or reason for doing it would be earth shattering at the very least.

Ammit · 11-27-2008, 05:33 PM

Um, ok so do you think that this might be a fair thought...

If the moon and stars, indeed even the sun as some have stated seem bigger and brighter then normal, could this mean , if indeed a hologram was being used that it was at a much lower atmosphere to hide maybe ships above?.
Hence making everything seem closer?

Just a thought, but, we were waiting for the showing of a ship a while ago, could it hide something of this nature?

Sol Invictus · 11-27-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammit

Um, ok so do you think that this might be a fair thought...

If the moon and stars, indeed even the sun as some have stated seem bigger and brighter then normal, could this mean , if indeed a hologram was being used that it was at a much lower atmosphere to hide maybe ships above?.
Hence making everything seem closer?

Just a thought, but, we were waiting for the showing of a ship a while ago, could it hide something of this nature?

Ammit, what i believe? truely?.... OK, here goes.

The sky is a hologram. We are under neath a flase sky that was 'swapped' in the mid to late 1990s, around 1997 at the latest. Why do i think this? because gliding gives you a weird perspective on the world, and at times I saw stars, glowing silver over head at 8k feet, and broad daylight. Other times I saw ripples running across the clear blue sky above me. I am not the only one how ever to see this.

My absolute belief is that a massive, overwhelming effort is being perpetrated against us, and that what ever they are hiding, we are not going to like. Think of it as keeping a fish tank lid on so the fish don't see the waiting cat.

davefla73 · 11-30-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

Ammit, what i believe? truely?.... OK, here goes.

The sky is a hologram. We are under neath a flase sky that was 'swapped' in the mid to late 1990s, around 1997 at the latest. Why do i think this? because gliding gives you a weird perspective on the world, and at times I saw stars, glowing silver over head at 8k feet, and broad daylight. Other times I saw ripples running across the clear blue sky above me. I am not the only one how ever to see this.

My absolute belief is that a massive, overwhelming effort is being perpetrated against us, and that what ever they are hiding, we are not going to like. Think of it as keeping a fish tank lid on so the fish don't see the waiting cat.

COULD this be why they are spraying all the cemtrails?? hmmm think about it maybe its to help project the image?!

Sol Invictus · 11-27-2008, 05:34 PM

I will however add another sighting that defies any explanation and was witnessed by an entire street of people in 2003.

The road in question runs east to west, so alot of people came out to see the moon rising, yes rising in the west. It rose up, hung about for an hour and sank down again.

A full moon later that night rose as scheduled.

Twilight zone? no, but some thing so vast, so monumental is being pulled over our eyes I am sure that only one in a million is willing to contemplate it, let alone try explain it to others.

11-27-2008, 06:13 PM

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John aka#404 · 11-27-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammit

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Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

Agree on both counts. Moons out of position at times, the suns way brighter than it ever has been, and some times watching the stars I get the idea we are under a holographic sky and not the 'real deal'.

Bloody hell Sol, thats some idea.
Do you believe they could actually pull that off?
It would be mammoth, with all the different time zones, sun sets and rises.

Wow... global Truman Show.

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Just a quick FYI for you all on phases of the moon

* another neat site where you can embed the current moon phase on your site:

John
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Ampgod · 11-27-2008, 01:19 AM

I'm glad you mentioned this.
I thought I was nuts!

(Maybe I am) hahahaa

Sol Invictus · 11-26-2008, 08:15 PM

Glad its not just me.

I was up in the hills stretching the legs and watched a beautiful two thirds full moon rising. Nice i thought, very beautiful.

Two days later, a cresent moon high up in the day time sky.

Going mad? I thought I was, but alot of folks emailed me asking 'did you see it too'.

I am also UK based.

Sol.

11-26-2008, 08:09 PM	#1
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Strange things I have noticed lately Just lately I have been doing my usual star watching along with the moon, now, last week I was stood utside work at 7am having a smoke. I looked up at the moon, now, being a bushcrafter I played a little game of finding south using a house roof top as a marker. Two days later when back at work, again outside having a smoke. I looked to where the moon was 2 days previous, wasnt there. I turned around , looked up and there it was, now I have over the last few months noticed some strange things with the moon but not 145 degrees difference in 2 days. Sounds awefully like bull**** but it is not. Has anyone else noticed strange astral things lately?

11-26-2008, 08:14 PM	#2
Mercuriel Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 362	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Yep - As well as unusual declinations of the Sun as it transits the Sky. I've been noticing this though for about a Year or so and when I tell others about it - Well y'know how that goes LOL...

11-26-2008, 08:17 PM	#3
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Yeah, tell me about it. Was concerned to put it here but thought sodit. The sun as you say is changing too, as I have to keep changing the angles, lol

11-26-2008, 09:51 PM	#5
burgundia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 3,442	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately You've made me think about it. I'll start observing the sky too.

11-27-2008, 01:03 AM	#6
sleepingnomore Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Strange you should have this thread, I was thinking of starting one. Every night I take a walk to gaze at the sky. Three nights ago it was an incredibly clear night out as I looked up the stars seemed to bright so I stopped to check for the usual formations. I thought they were strangely low in the sky, I don't know if it was an optical illusion but then I noticed one large star with hundreds of pinpoints of light around it in a random pattern. I thought it was strange and just as I was thinking this it disappeared. I looked away and caught it appearing again out of the corner of my eye. I just stood there dumbfounded wondering what it was. As soon as I formulated that thought I saw a large white helicopter, larger than any I had ever seen before with a red stripe on it, very low in the sky flying in that direction. It made no sound and came from a direction where there is no known airport or military airstrip. I thought how odd???? Then another plane coming from an opposite direction, higher in the sky was headed that way almost in an intersecting pattern. I tried to see what was happening and then they all seemed to disappear behind the treeline. I've watched the skies for many years and seen strange independantly moving lights but nothing like this. I'm still shaking my head as to what was really there, I know it isn't my imagination.

11-27-2008, 01:19 AM	#7
blastawaycas Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Middlesbrough United Kingdom Posts: 229	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Agree with average joe i have observed the moon in positions i have never seen it in before as i took the dogs on the front late at night i was somewhat startled to see the moon over the top of our roof (not literally) never seen it there before, it always arises from the north sea over eston hills in an arc looking south this path took it right above me as i stated it somewhaat startled me and as for the sun my goodness....how dazzingly bright lately

11-27-2008, 05:10 PM	#10
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Well right, good to know. A moon that was so huge and beautiful that I called my friend to say go outside and look, just disappeared. I actually did a 360 looking for it, and continued all the evening. They of course thought I was gone a little in the head. Of course there is no reason not to believe that we are moving, shifting literally to another place, I just presumed we (planets, stars, etc... ) would all be going together. Interesting interesting folks.

11-27-2008, 05:40 PM	#11
Kulapops Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Torbay, UK Posts: 704	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Well, as the moon reflects the sun's light, then of course a brighter sun would = brighter moon. I too think the sun is brighter than it was, but that's something I've noticed over the last years, rather than something recent. I thought it was because I'm a little sensitive to bright lights anyway (boy do I hate looking into headlights on full-beam!). As for sun's position, I'm no astronomer neither, but isn't the sun supposed to track a different rise and set on the horizon between solsitices? So It should move. If it's doing a loop-de-loop in the sky on course, well, that's another matter. What I've never understood is that if the sun always rises in the east, if it rises in a different position every day, then what is happening to east?? (I think it has something to do with the difference between grid north/magnetic north and true north. Maybe someone knows the answer to this, please?) Personally, I'm interested in the Zeitgeist reference to the stars of orion's belt linking up with Sirius low in the sky to point to the sunrise on the 25th Dec. I've been looking for sirius, and it ain't been there, then it was , and then it wasn't. This doesn't make sense to me, I thought all stars were fixed in position and revolved around the North Star (northern hem.). The only explanation I can think of is that orion has to be high enough in the sky to enable sirius to be seen (hence it's appearance/disappearance). As for phases of the moon, bear in mind it takes two weeks to go from full to nothing, not four, so it goes from new (sliver) to half moon in just a week. Depending on where you are in the cycle (it's sinusoidal like everything else) you could get a fair increase/decrease in size in just two days.

11-27-2008, 05:53 PM	#12
Sol Invictus Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 599	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately As the owner of a Newtonian reflector, an avid user of http://www.stellarium.org/ software, a very well trained navigator by both day and night and also navigation whilst thousands of feet in the air, I am very well aware of what #should# be where and why the mechanics, physics and mathematics say it should be there. However, I am not talking about a constant change (although the sun is much brighter, painfully so on a permanent basis) I am talking about possible mistakes in the holographic sky, or what ever is going on up there. I once watched a star form in the sky over head whilst high over the Uk, change a few colours and then blink off again. Some thing is not right in the skies, and I don't think its some thing we are going to be able to figure out in the near future; just keeping tabs and making sure each other witnesses know they are not 'seeing things' or going 'crazy'.

11-27-2008, 06:01 PM	#13
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Quote: I once watched a star form in the sky over head whilst high over the Uk, change a few colours and then blink off again. Ah, did not want to mention that one at first, wanted to see how many ridicules I got, then forgot it. I see that many times down here, thought perhaps it was a plane with its lights on as we are not too far from southampton airport. As you say a bright white dot that is totally brighter then the rest, changes a hue or red and blue in slow flashes then, poof,, gone. Dont know if this makes a difference but I usually see them about NNE.

11-27-2008, 06:07 PM	#14
Kulapops Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Torbay, UK Posts: 704	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately I don't doubt your qualifications. Or that mysterious things go on, or are going on. Some things, such as a moon appearing to grow in size a lot over two or three days are possible. Would you happen to know how if the sun always rises in the east, that it rises in a different spot everyday? That's always fascinated me. The idea that a giant holograph is covering the entire night (and daytime?) sky is also fascinating and imaginitive, but my opinion would be that it's a lot of technology to explain away conclusively some anomolies in the sky. Didn't John Lear maintain that the moon is a giant space station? If it's under it's own power, then it should be able to zip around the night sky at will. That would also explain it's strange behaviour, but both this theory and the holograph theory can't both be right, can they ? What happens when you are flying in a plane at night at 30,000 feet? Presumably this is under the floor of the holograph too? that's a long way to project clearly. My feeling would be that if we're technologically advanced enough to prodcue such equipment, there's no way there'd be gliches with it.

11-27-2008, 06:39 PM	#15
Altered Species Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 16	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Okay, this is pretty intresting. First of all I had almost the same occurence happen 2 years ago and blew it off. This happened in late January or early Febuary. I was staying at a place where I would have to go outside to smoke and the first night I was just star gazing and noticed where the moon was. The second day at the same time as the night before I had another smoke and I noticed the Moon was atleast 45 degrees to the right of where it was the night before. I am a surveyor by profession and I have taken solar observations with a surveying instrument of the sun(with a special lens) and I have even checked out the moon at night just for the heck of it. You would be suprised how fast the sun and moon moves when looking at either one through a theodolite(surveying instrument). We have handheld calculators that determines our position by just taking readings of the sun and entering a time, but I personally can't tell you how these calculations are actually made. What I don't get is how the sun rises in the east and set's in the west in what is realitively the same position on the horizon only at slightly different times(within minutes) through out the year(unless in Alaska) and the moon can be this far out of position on the horizon in one day. I would really like to hear an explanation of this by someone who is into astrology.

11-27-2008, 05:33 PM	#18
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Um, ok so do you think that this might be a fair thought... If the moon and stars, indeed even the sun as some have stated seem bigger and brighter then normal, could this mean , if indeed a hologram was being used that it was at a much lower atmosphere to hide maybe ships above?. Hence making everything seem closer? Just a thought, but, we were waiting for the showing of a ship a while ago, could it hide something of this nature?

11-27-2008, 05:34 PM	#21
Sol Invictus Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 599	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately I will however add another sighting that defies any explanation and was witnessed by an entire street of people in 2003. The road in question runs east to west, so alot of people came out to see the moon rising, yes rising in the west. It rose up, hung about for an hour and sank down again. A full moon later that night rose as scheduled. Twilight zone? no, but some thing so vast, so monumental is being pulled over our eyes I am sure that only one in a million is willing to contemplate it, let alone try explain it to others.

11-27-2008, 06:13 PM	#22
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11-27-2008, 01:19 AM	#24
Ampgod Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 310	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately I'm glad you mentioned this. I thought I was nuts! (Maybe I am) hahahaa Last edited by Ampgod; 11-27-2008 at 10:27 AM.

11-26-2008, 08:15 PM	#25
Sol Invictus Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 599	Re: Strange things I have noticed lately Glad its not just me. I was up in the hills stretching the legs and watched a beautiful two thirds full moon rising. Nice i thought, very beautiful. Two days later, a cresent moon high up in the day time sky. Going mad? I thought I was, but alot of folks emailed me asking 'did you see it too'. I am also UK based. Sol.