Why is no one discussing the digital TV thing?

[franciejones]

I have asked around and peoples eyes seem to glaze over when I ask why we are switching to digital here in the USA. I even emailed Bill about a year ago asking if he or Kerry had heard anything regarding the REAL reason for this. No answer. Other folks LITERALLY get a glazed look in their eyes when I bring it up.

1. Why going digital?
2. What happens to the old analog signal?
3. Why does the government (other than the obvious FCC) seem so "on board"?
4. WHY WHY WHY does no one talk about this?

Anyone have any clues about this other than the garbage reason we are being fed?

All I know is, that since the announcement of this change a few years ago, I have felt increasingly uneasy about it. I am stuck with my damn TV as my husband and stepson are not at all willing to let it go. What do you guys think about this....really.

[Steve_A]

[Egg]

Mind control.

I absolutely totally utterly am kidding you not here. My total belief is that this is part of a digitsed carrier signal for tuning into the frequencies the brain works at, and sending out pacification signals.

The brain works at a certain frequency, and Tetra (airwaves) Police radio system operates very close to it indeed already. What happens to Police after a day using it? they are like zombies, and their is a sharp rise in cancers where the radio sits for 8 /10 /12 hours.

Add to this digital phones, add to this wi-fi networks, add to this digital television, and I will wager money on a system ready for 2011 to pacify the masses through electronic manipulation.

[Carmen]

We sold our TV FrancieJones on trademe for one dollar reserve. There was a bidding war near the end of the auction and we got the princely sum of twenty dollars for it. No regrets. Its such a mind-control device. People (especially children) lose the ability to focus for more than six minutes at a time. (between ads). It was my daughter's descision which was great, because she was quite addicted to the thing. Several times after we got rid of it, she said "Just as well it was my descision to get rid of it!' The old addiction was still trying to kick in. Its just so boring. How many rapes and murders and stupid reality shows can a person take of an evening!

Cheers

Carmen

[franciejones]

Egg, Carmen....thanks for the replies. I have and AM trying to convince my small family of getting rid of the television (we have 3...gag!) In February when the switch happens, my boys TV will not work any longer and my husband was very "up in arms" about it. I then started pushing harder to get rid of our cable service....we would save nearly 1,000.00 per year...I have lost up to this point, but will keep trying to make my case. I will stop watching TV to make my point. They will see much less of me unfortunately, but perhaps they will see I am determined to make the change. Any other info would be appreciated folks.

Thanks,

Francie Jones

[Barron]

Hi Carmen.

good on ya! If i could convince my wife to throw it away I would too, although i do like watching uplifting spiritually themed DVD films thru the tele.

When the TV is on though, it is normally travel or cooking shows that we enjoy. Oh, and i like to watch surfing on the box too when it is on which is rare.

[Myra]

Originally Posted by Barron

Hi Carmen.

good on ya! If i could convince my wife to throw it away I would too, although i do like watching uplifting spiritually themed DVD films thru the tele.

When the TV is on though, it is normally travel or cooking shows that we enjoy. Oh, and i like to watch surfing on the box too when it is on which is rare.

Sounds just like me and my Husband. If I could only convince him to get rid of the TV, I keep trying! But nevertheless we are fond of watching Travel and Cooking channels too.

Still, when it comes to risking watching a Mind Control Apparatus I will gladly do without TV!

Mind control is certainly one reason. Another is money. Instead of 5 channels paying for broadcast licenses there are 250. Add in the taxes from the advertising companies, operational companies, engineers etc and I bet you get a rather tidy sum.

CH-CHIIIING!!!

Edit: Almost forgot the new equipment everyone will need to buy to feed their addiction.

[Dantheman62]

It's to free up bandwidth, there's only so much room and it's getting cluttered fast.

Police,Fire,Rescue, all of these use a lower frequency so as to not be bothered by buildings,trees and other things.Satellite communications are in the GHZ which is higher than regular radio communications, but if you ever notice that it's easily blocked by trees,buildings and whatever. You need a direct line of sight with satellite communications, not with radio communications.

Notice on the chart that our vision (what we see) is above infrared and below ultraviolet.
Behind every move of the government there's a conspiracy theorist, but that doesn't mean there's an actual conspiracy. This is a move to simply free up bandwidth for other uses besides TV. That's it!

[Carmen]

The mind control is in the imagery. The brain works on imagery. What is taken in is reproduced, especially in young people. No mystery to what is causing our violent society.No mystery to what we buy in shops. It on the telly . Advertisers know the power of imagery.

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

It's to free up bandwidth, there's only so much room and it's getting cluttered fast.

Police,Fire,Rescue, all of these use a lower frequency so as to not be bothered by buildings,trees and other things.Satellite communications are in the GHZ which is higher than regular radio communications, but if you ever notice that it's easily blocked by trees,buildings and whatever. You need a direct line of sight with satellite communications, not with radio communications.

Notice on the chart that our vision (what we see) is above infrared and below ultraviolet.
Behind every move of the government there's a conspiracy theorist, but that doesn't mean there's an actual conspiracy. This is a move to simply free up bandwidth for other uses besides TV. That's it!

There is no conspiracy ,this is just the way it is. There is no such thing as a gov't conspiracy.
What about the infinite number of thoughts that travel through airwaves,wouldn't you want those to go digital to?

[franciejones]

Dantheman...thanks for giving it the "old college try"...however, that is the answer that I believe falls into the catergory of "what we are being fed". I am not professing to have a working knowledge of bandwidths or the like...but that answer does not resonate for me as truth. I am truly afraid (a bit embarrassed to admit this) that this change over will be the beginning of a true zombie nation. People are acting more and more strangely and I am very concerned about what will be coming out of the TV that we are not aware of. It has already been going on for years and I am certain that it is about to get a whole lot uglier.

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by franciejones

Dantheman...thanks for giving it the "old college try"...however, that is the answer that I believe falls into the catergory of "what we are being fed". I am not professing to have a working knowledge of bandwidths or the like...but that answer does not resonate for me as truth. I am truly afraid (a bit embarrassed to admit this) that this change over will be the beginning of a true zombie nation. People are acting more and more strangely and I am very concerned about what will be coming out of the TV that we are not aware of. It has already been going on for years and I am certain that it is about to get a whole lot uglier.

The switch is timely with the inauguration.

[Breaking Thunder]

There was a book out in the seventies entitled ' Four Arguments For The Elimination of Television ' by Jerry Mander. I remember him stating that while watching the T.V. Young children ( I suppose Adults also) went into an Alpha Brainwave state due to the flickering light of the cathode ray tub. I don't know what the effect there is of the new LCD or plasma screens. The Alpha state can put people into a highly receptive frame of mind, Thats why they call the content PROGRAMING. They had TV before the second world war but waited until after WW2 to bring it out as a means to market desire and product.

There is some suggestion that the new sets have very small cameras built into the monitor just as most newer computers have a hidden microphones in them to monitor the ambient sounds in your home. Goggle can listen in on what music you listen to so they can market to your tastes and demographic.

This might be of interest to you regarding the new digital television.

http://educate-yourself.org/lte/HDtv...a12apr08.shtml

and

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...p?q=1229966425

and

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage699338/pg1

[Barron]

Not sure if it is the flickering screen causing the "alpha" brainwave pattern but as a qualified hypnotherapist i can say authoritatively that most people do indeed go into the "alpha" brainwave pattern which is classed as a light trance or light trancelike state whereby the critical reasoning faculty of the brain is much more easily bypassed. (In layman's terms, this means that you are much more susceptible to suggestion.)

[fossileyesed]

here is a very interesting you tube clip,that shows one use for digital signals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjRAcajFte0 mind boggling{pun intended}

peace,love squared to the power of infinity........kent

[Jack]

ohh jeeez, i hate going out on a limb here.. sometimes it makes me look all conspiratorial but heck this is avalon, everyone else is nuts here anyways.

Just seems like a funny time to be going digital given the current state of affairs and the future we are seemingly faced with. The fact that the earth is undergoing massive changes which may very well include the raising of earths vibrational frequency just seems to coincide eerily with the change of frequencies the government are imposing upon our precious brainwashing boxes.

Does anyone know where the line seperating paranoia and logical thinking is? .. i just cant seem to find it these days

[Barron]

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[Aussie Babe]

HI All! This might sound like it's off topic but it's not! Read this article that I came across yesterday and make up your own minds.

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/12/15...nd-of-silence/


In love and light
Aussie Babe

[777 The Great Work]

One thing we have to realize is that wtshtf, a vast majority of the aware people will be in the now and this is very powerful. So all communication must be controlled to prevent kundalini from rising by instilling fear.

[Dominic]

I did not read the entire thread to see if someone mentioned the "sound of silence" . I have a friend that works at comcast and said the digital cable will be much more interesting Wink. I really feel that the digital will allow them to put more frequency ranges into your house. Kill your T.V.

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Dominic

I did not read the entire thread to see if someone mentioned the "sound of silence" . I have a friend that works at comcast and said the digital cable will be much more interesting Wink. I really feel that the digital will allow them to put more frequency ranges into your house. Kill your T.V.

Yea, i've read several articles that said plasma tvs are two way screens. By the way, plasma means blood.

I have some privacy concerns about digital formats. (In Canada, the change occurs Aug 31, 2011 - Office of Consumer Affairs.) With analogue, the TV set is a receiver. The digital format allows for transmission (from broadcaster to user to broadcaster to user pings), so push the buttons, change this channel, surf this/that, and this user data is mined, just as it is on the internet.

I mean, the internet is an almost free resource, so we'd expect that ads should pop up, but a lot more user data is mined than the public may realize, especially with social networking and a new Google algorithm in the works for 'personalized' search results. That is, Google knows enough about you, your behaviour, your interests, your tendencies, that the search engine coughs up what It thinks You want. However, Google's not the only search engine game in town, not by a long shot at all. (I like how it serves up images, for instance.)

I think the digital format will be similarly interactive. Throw a Nintendo motion detector on top of the TV, and theoretically motion in the room could be detected? Like online gaming, e.g. Wii Fit or Yoga? Friend networks monitored? So, I wonder about the volume of data mining that may happen, without the public being aware of it.

There are some benefits though, like trying to get a grip on lawless behaviours like pedophilia and child sexual crimes. Also, I was surprised to learn that many seniors have taken to online chat, exercise and gaming as a way to connect with others; so the solitary nature of urban living and grand/ children absent due to parents' mobility/job issues is relieved - by communication and fun. And they play with their grandkids too.

If it comes to it, I'm not keen on anybody knowing what films I rent etc. or how long I watch X-Y-Z. It's nobody's business. Also, I'm a bit suspicious about the new waves of electronic equipment - new, new, new. I like record albums, VHS, film in the camera, so ..... naturally I think analogue is the people's format: cheap, easy, watch a program, get the news, turn it off, or opt out. The technology's probably way ahead of the legislation, known health effects (set's emmissions) and public awareness of privacy rights or surveillance issues. The brainwave patterns & ideas are interesting.

[Josefine]

Originally Posted by Jack

Does anyone know where the line seperating paranoia and logical thinking is? .. i just cant seem to find it these days

Thanks Jack, the question is begging. When someone comes up with the answer and it turns out to be not-so-good for us, maybe I can persuade my mate to get rid of the thing. He just bought the converter box, and the quality is now worse, very grainy, but we have a couple of more channels. Of course, he says we need to buy a new TV set. He is supposed to be the technical expert with a background in film.

But, thank goodness, it is out of our living room.

[Anchor]

Dont watch TV (much) (Maybe 1-2hrs per week)

Do watch a few DVD's though - wonder if they are programming me?

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