Some advice on preparations

[clayman]

Originally Posted by mortalcoil

Hmm, looks like I'll be the first to disagree with this post.

Here I go,

I haven't the slightest idea what this post has to do with preparation, it sounds to me like you are promoting the concept of "faith without action will pull me through". Not to go against faith but there are stories in the news everyday about people with that same mentality perishing needlessly because they believed that god will take care of them.

Regardless of whether or not society or the human race will pull through, no doubt that it will, the whole idea behind survival is that you do what needs to be done in order for you and your loved ones to SURVIVE.

Now and throughout history it is known that nature in it's awesome respect has always found a way to perpetuate itself. The question remains, how does it do that? The answer is simple. When a flock of birds sees a predator, they fly away. When the forest is on fire, where are all the animals? Running in the opposite direction! When a ship is sinking, who are the first to abandon ship? Not the captain, no he's too busy protecting his honor, it is the rats, why? Because they have what is called "natural instincts" a survival mentality, a will to perpetuate their existence.

If everyone shared the same mentality of build your "house on the rock" there wouldn't be anyone left to see jesus resurrect let alone help to crucify him.

Let us think back to the noah story, or for those who prefer ancient history, Gilgamesh. When the deluge was promised by God mankind was saved not by those hunkering down on a nice palace on the hill but by a man, his intuition, his preparation and a lot of wood. If he hadn't decided to tuck tail and sail for the highest mountain, well you get the point.

Things may not be as bad as they seem, sure and then again things may be far worse than hell itself. It's not for us to know the future, but to prepare FOR IT, whatever that IT maybe. If that means running for the hills when the bombs start falling in order to see my family repopulate the spit hole we are left with, than so be it. Does that mean I am fearful, paranoid, lack faith, NO! It means that I am a survivalist and I love life, so much so that I'd like to keep on living for as long as possible.

My life and that of my family means a hell of lot more than some dirt, plywood and dry wall. Call me a cockroach but they'll be here a lot longer than we will.

On the subject of spirituality, you don't have to reach nirvana to recognize that there is a serious difference between what you read in your latest self help books and reality. And the reality is if man kind has the ability to torture and cannibalize children, kill off entire populations and sacrifice untold numbers for profit and resources, then we as a species are far too immature to even comprehend the smallest fraction of the "big picture"

So needless to say this enlightenment that we are all seeking is EONS away and less than a fraction of us even understand what a soul is. But only those that claim their stake on the now instead of praying for some spiritual oneness to magically free us from our plight, will be able to further our existence so that one day we may be able to touch what we can now only speculate about.

I am an indigo and I have come here with a mission and that mission is to bring a healthy dose of reality to those who think just being positive is going to save us. People here preach so much about open eyes but the light is so bright they will never be able to accept the truth that is right in front of them. You must be able to open your eyes to both spectrums, without which you will always either be blinded by the light or blinded by the dark. Goodness me, what am I saying? See darkness, heavens no! Oh the horror!

We fear what we do not understand and this fear you speak of derives from living without understanding not from recognizing danger when it is right in front of us. That is just plain ignorance.

So that's my 2 cents,
I hope you all received both a positive and negative experience from my writing here, for without balance we cannot truly exist.

Good post man. But I think you have misunderstood me a little.

You wrote you didn't have the slightest idea what this post had to do with preparation, i recommend you read it again.. Or my English grammar is really really poor :P I lack in some English words, for that I'm sorry.

My point was that people here are getting really frightened, and that is no way to "prepare your self", if you know what I mean. Even if the world actually would "end". I know people fear the unknown, but that is a choice, as much as believing that we really don't have to be afraid.
I didn't talk about "faith without action", that's your words. Building your self towards a positive attitude without fear in reality we fully don't understand IS a preparation, if you ask me, don't know what you believe in.. I don't want to leave my home for Ecuador or some other place without bringing my head and soul, you know.. For example, boxers.. If their not prepared mentally and spiritually they are going to lose. And this kind of preparation is when you do something good for your self, and tell me, how could you do anything good for anyone else if you cant help yourself first? How could you understand somebody else if you cant understand yourself? Or maybe I'm just thinking in the wrong direction with this..

I'm glad you brought up nature in your post, and I like your metaphors, but were no bird flock, and were certainly are no rats. Neither do I wish to compare those animals with humans, even if its so easy to do that these days.. I don't know what animals are spiritually but I know what people are spiritually. Also not to say anything bad against animals, but my guess would be humans are maybe a little more advanced spiritually, i don't know. The fact that animals already react that fast on situations tells me they have no free will, and that people with free will tend to put that will and focus on "bu''''it" therefore we don't react that fast. Or maybe I'm wrong, I don't know..

So basically, what is survival? For me the spiritual survival comes first.

"house on the rock", you have misunderstood that, not that I'm judging you or that I wish to do it but there you go.. Google it or check the bible where its explained in a good way.
Because if I build my life(the house) with a poor soul(the foundation) or you might say "poor attitude" or "poor spirit" or whatever.. That house will crash and burn..

About that Gilgamesh story you wrote. He followed his intuition which comes from the soul. He had a feeling something would happen so he got prepared, right? We have to priorities preparations. First you pray and get in touch with your self, or your "higher self" as some call it. When you have done that, that's when you start listening to your intuition. And intuition wont lie, as far as I know..

Things may not be as bad as they seem, sure and then again things may be far worse than hell itself. It's not for us to know the future, but to prepare FOR IT, whatever that IT maybe. If that means running for the hills when the bombs start falling in order to see my family repopulate the spit hole we are left with, than so be it. Does that mean I am fearful, paranoid, lack faith, NO! It means that I am a survivalist and I love life, so much so that I'd like to keep on living for as long as possible.

I survived the war in Bosnia in 92, trust me, I know how to prepare, but it always starts from inside! Because if were unprepared inside, there's no point in running.

On the subject of spirituality, you don't have to reach nirvana to recognize that there is a serious difference between what you read in your latest self help books and reality. And the reality is if man kind has the ability to torture and cannibalize children, kill off entire populations and sacrifice untold numbers for profit and resources, then we as a species are far too immature to even comprehend the smallest fraction of the "big picture"

When was that? Would people on this forum torture and cannibalize children? Or would "Indigo's" do that? Of course not, we are a bit more civilized than that, right?

Also, you make it sound like spiritualism is so far away, when it isn't. You know, when you turn the eyes inside you find a whole new world. That's where you get your guidance, enlightenment and God.

Myself, I'm no Indigo, at least I think I'm not, as far as I know.. don't really care about that because it's not relevant, because for me that's just another way to separate and categorize our selves.. Nobody is more special and nobody is less special, but its the effort you put in that matters and measures you as a human being.


Maybe I didn't explain myself in a good way, don't know.. Neither am I criticizing or anything like that or talking down on anyone. Its a good conversation =) Cheers