Questions for THEWATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

Hi Barry,
Can it go the other way also though, I mean, if you show no fear are there groups who will take interest in this?

Peace
Regards
Iain

Indeed so, like being in a goldfish bowl, your actions/reactions are watched, several players, several factions keeping tabs to see if they can use you to their advantage


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Indeed so, like being in a goldfish bowl, your actions/reactions are watched, several players, several factions keeping tabs to see if they can use you to their advantage
THE WATCHER

So how does one know when one is being manipulated for another's cause Barry?

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Ara

So how does one know when one is being manipulated for another's cause Barry?

All the Best
Ara

Unless someone drops hints or someone says you have little or no idea

Regards

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

1972......MIB appear but these ones are NSA.I worked at that time for a local freight company on late shifts, 1.30pm till 10pm. It began with being followed nightly from the road by the company all the way to the A13 turnoff where i would turn right for home and the call turned left, towards London. The car, later in daylight identified as a green Mercedes 4 door saloon (sedan). This following was simply that, at first, following, the car 2 or 3 lengths behind me all the time. After a few nights I got annoyed and decided to try and outrun it. I floored the pedal and shot away from the Mercedes but it quickly caught up and placed itself behind me. Driving at reckless speeds of 90mph along the winding River road. River road runs thru a heavy industrial area and its dangerous at the best of times, near lethal at speed at night.
This following got on my nerves so much I gathered together 2 or 3 workmates in the car, taking them home after work, in order to get witnesses to the tagging.
One day on the drive to work in the early afternoon I noticed the Mercedes parked along by the trailers next to the company i worked for. I muttered a few swearwords and turned around, heading back homewards. The Mercedes followed, again a discreet 3 car lengths behind. At least I was seeing the thing in daylight and decided to make as many mental notes about the vehicle as i could, just in case.
We drove at an ordinary rate until we reached Barking power station, then the Mercedes accelerated and drew level with me, driving side by side. The rear nearside window lowered and a middle aged balding man sitting in the back of the car turned and looked at me, within seconds the window raised and the Mercedes sped off.
I was getting really peeved by the antics of the car and occupants and word soon got round the company that I was being messed with. The boss of the company called me into the office one day to ask if there was something he or the company could do, or even to notify the Police for me. I declined saying I could handle the situation.
Days later, again daylight, arriving for my shift, the Mercedes was parked again among the trailers. I hurriedly turned around and sped off back along Thames road towards River road. The Mercedes rushed up behind me getting very close, we raced along River road, traffic permitting. Nearing the straight just before the power station the Mercedes accelerated, drew level then drove at me, I responded on instinct and yanked the steering wheel left. To avoid a hit from the Mercedes. Unfortunately I hit some gravel and lost control, I skidded into a fence and hit the concrete uprights causing about £100 worth of damage to my car.
Strangely that was the last of the tagging from them, was I taught a lesson? possibly, the next time I came across the vehicle was on my 21st birthday, June 10th 1973, in daylight, in a carpark in Barking town centre. This time the occupants got out of their car and approached me.


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Unless someone drops hints or someone says you have little or no idea

Regards

THE WATCHER

So the person who drops hints would have to be someone 'in the know'. Someone connected to the projects?

Is it possible to pick up through 'other channels' ie psi abilities if one is being used?

I imagine all sides playing here look for people they can use to their own advantage.

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Ara

So the person who drops hints would have to be someone 'in the know'. Someone connected to the projects?
Mostly but not always

Is it possible to pick up through 'other channels' ie psi abilities if one is being used?
Yes
I imagine all sides playing here look for people they can use to their own advantage.
Exactly

All the Best
Ara

Regards


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

I should add here that, after the incident of being forced off the road i decided upon advice, to get the vehicle checked. I contacted the Citizens Advice Bureau, The Automobile Association legal dept. and, after being informed by the C.A.B that the registration number of the Mercedes would be within the jurisdiction of Salford City Council, I wrote to them too. I basically stated that an accident occurred and that I was trying to trace the driver of the other vehicle. Salford wrote back stating that the number DBA 919K was indeed unissued, all they had on their records was a Suzuki motorcycle licence number DBA 919L. I kept these 3 letters for possible future use. Andy Collins used them in 1978 in his 130page report on my life "The Paul Grant Affair" (privately published within the ufo community, copies sent to prominent ufologists around the World).

The 10th June 1973 daylight encounter was basically a stand off between 2 of the occupants of the Mercedes and myself. A 'quiet little chat'. It was made abundantly clear at that meet whom they were. Enough said.

April 1974 I actually managed to capture the vehicle on film. I purchased a new super 8mm cine camera and projector and wished to try it out, a new toy LOL. Myself and two of my younger brothers drove over to the wasteground adjacent to the freight company I used to work for, on a piece of ground we termed the thames wasteground. We had the camera, I was filming as we all goofed about acting stupid LOL. It was an overcast cold day. As we goofed around one of my brothers stood still, looking over towards Thames road, then pointed. With the camera I panned across and there, parked among the trailers was the green Mercedes. I zoomed in with the By todays standards,pathetic 2x zoom and kept the button down, recording. Within seconds as if sensing our attention was on them, the Mercedes drove away. I kept filming till it was out of sight. We finished off the 50ft of film and returned home. A few days later I sent it off for processing at Kodak. When I received the small reel of film back I connected up the projector and played the 2/3 minute film a number of times. There was the damn car, should I need to place it with any official one day. Over time I forgot about the film and believe I actually threw it out one day in a fit of anger and frustration. I looked back on that action and mentally kicked myself for throwing it away.

Within one month or so I was to experience an aborted abduction attempt at Barn Hill, off Sewardstone road, Chingford, Essex........the same Barn Hill from 1970.



THE WATCHER

[iainl140285]

Hi Barry/Ara,

I was wondering if either of you read the Jake Simpson transcript on Camelot: It will only take 5 mins to read if you have not yet done so.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html

In it he mentions a device, AI surveillance created by us to monitor ever action, thought and emotion of every person on earth. This is something I had not heard of previously - can either of you shed any light on this?

Any other comments on the points made in this interview?


Peace
Regards
Iain

[Jacqui D]

It would be interesting to see how many on this site have seen or think they may have come across these MIB'S.
You have certainly had your fair share Barry and of course everything else in your life.

If i may i would like to tell a little story here when the MIB's showed themselves to me and my daughter.
It was around 2003-4 i was into David Icke's stuff and looking into the reptilian agenda when i became obsessed with visiting Canterbury Cathedral in Kent.

I had made various trips on several occasions looking for symbols, pictures in fact anything that i felt would prove to me that a reptilian species existed here on Earth but not only that how long they had actually been here.
Today my knowledge has speeded up of course and now know much more but then i was just feeling the way.

I discovered a murel on the wall of the Cathedral that fascinated me, i remember e.mailing David Icke on this telling him i had found proof that the reptilian race was here on earth at least from the 14th century.

There is a clear depiction of a retilian creature in human stance brandishing what looks very clear to me as a weapon in it's hand rather like a light sabre as you would see in star wars the movies.
A piece of the puzzle was coming together for me anyway, telling my family wasn't easy, they thought i was crazy.


So i decided to get my daughter along (who was 32 at the time) to try to get her to see what i had found right under everyones noses but no one taking any notice.

The trip was fraught, train breaking down waiting in station for around an hour eventually headed off. We had a strange conversation on the train with this stranger also, it was just a weird day.

After arriving in canterbury and leaving the station we began making our way to the Cathedral, we both began feeling quite heady, my daughter remarked that she had a bad headache coming on i told her this was normal and she had to try fight it.
The energy is very negative in that area it hits you if you are a sensitive being.
My daughter felt so bad she just wanted to go home, i managed to convince her that it would only last for awhile which it always did and would pass because i knew we had someone helping us on this venture.
After all this compulsion to go and find this picture was given to me in thought process, i would usually receive info this way.


On entering the cathedral the largest spider i have ever seen scuttled inches away from our feet, which scared the living daylights out of both of us, hate spiders something in a previous life i feel.

First i showed her all the ancient egyptian symbolism, then i showed her the murel on the wall.
Not sure of the size of the thing but it's huge, it's called the St Eutace painting.
It depicts christ's journey, but as all old paintings it has some pretty strange creatures in it. But one clear being is a reptile creature, green in colour and vaguely resembling i said at the time to my daughter one of the ninja turtles cartoon characters.
We laughed at that and then began to pull quite a crowd around, who were wondering what we found so funny in a very serious place like Canterbury Cathedral.
We pointed the creature out to some tourists who found it very interesting, we moved on and left quite a crowd all scrutinising the old painting.



But back to the MBI's, we made our journey home without any problems this time unlike the journey going.
On leaving the train we made our way to stations car park where my daughter had left the car, still talking about the day we left the car park and made our way out on to the side road which was quiet we thought for the time of day peak time 5pm when the commutors started making there way home from London.

My daughter turned the corner when suddenly a black van unmarked with blacked out windows swung in front of us.
My daughter slammed the brakes on, the van pulled up at an angle to the right of us.
My daughter was in shock so was i we sat in the car and watched as the door to this van slowly opened. Inside were 3 men all dressed in similar black clothing and dare i say it with dark glasses on.
At a quick glance i noticed the 3 men looked exactly the same.
My daughter never noticed this she was still in shock and feared for her life but did see 3 men in there.
I said something like "Oh my god MBI's"
My daughter said "Sh...t your joking"
She stuck her foot on the reverse and the car shot backwards, as she did so the door on the van shut and pulled off fastly!


We sat for a second or two just taking in the situation thinking Weird! or what!
Wondering why a thing had happened to us my daughter started driving the car again and made our way to the end of the road, noticing all the time that there was not a living soul around anywhere on the road or on the streets.
We took a left turning which brought you out onto the main road through the town. Standing in front of us was a policeman in full combat uniform, he hailed us to stop. we looked at each other and thought what else this day just gets weirder and weirder.
My daughter wound her window down and the policeman came over.
He said we would have to turn back, we noticed that police tape had been put across the road, the like to which they put out when a crime has been commited.
"So what's going on?"
My daughter asks, he says. "There's been a robbery at the Nat West bank, we have cornered of the road you can't go through."


We had clear vision of the road and there was no traffic either way, so we thought they must off cornered of all traffic the other way also.
The policeman waved us back, my daughter reversed back down the road we had just come down.
Still no cars anywhere, but we thought well the police has obviously closed all roads, robbers may be armed or something.
My daughter and i chatted about the MIB's saying how scary was that! and discussed the robbery saying it would be in the papers tomorrow or maybe even make the local news.

After taking the long way round which added around 10 minutes on our journey we eventually got back on the original main road and sat and watched as we waited for the lights to change green.

Now this was weird because there was no police, no police tape across the road nothing, in fact the buses were running as usual and it was quite busy, there were people walking up and down the high street all was back to normal.

We felt as though we had gone through a different dimension or something.
There was never anything said on the local news nothing was printed in the papers and when we asked around no one even knew what we were talking about.

We have no explaination why we were stopped by these MIB's. And the police stop well we have no answer for that either.

[Ara]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

Hi Barry/Ara,

I was wondering if either of you read the Jake Simpson transcript on Camelot: It will only take 5 mins to read if you have not yet done so.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html

In it he mentions a device, AI surveillance created by us to monitor ever action, thought and emotion of every person on earth. This is something I had not heard of previously - can either of you shed any light on this?

Any other comments on the points made in this interview?


Peace
Regards
Iain

Hi Iain,

Do I think this AI exists? Yes.

Thank you for bringing this interview to my attention, very interesting read.
Opens a whole can of worms though doesn't it? Implications galore on many levels.

All the Best
Ara

ps...I've sent an email to you Iain.

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by Ara

Hi Iain,

Do I think this AI exists? Yes.

Thank you for bringing this interview to my attention, very interesting read.
Opens a whole can of worms though doesn't it? Implications galore on many levels.

All the Best
Ara

ps...I've sent an email to you Iain.

Yes Ara,
A HUGE can of worms!
Kinda makes you wonder what is there we can do to protect ourselves.
Or if there is even any point

Thanks for the pm.

Barry, it would appear the AI is not talked about so much as people physically struggle to do so.
Have you ever come across this thing in your disclosures?

I think many would benefit if this thing was more widespread.



Peace
Iain

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

Yes Ara,
A HUGE can of worms!
Kinda makes you wonder what is there we can do to protect ourselves.
Or if there is even any point

Thanks for the pm.

Barry, it would appear the AI is not talked about so much as people physically struggle to do so.
Have you ever come across this thing in your disclosures?

I think many would benefit if this thing was more widespread.



Peace
Iain

Yes I have but this topic is like trying to wade thru quicksand, as soon as you talk (move) further under (stopped) you become


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Originally Posted by iainl140285
Yes Ara,
A HUGE can of worms!
Kinda makes you wonder what is there we can do to protect ourselves.
Or if there is even any point

Thanks for the pm.

Barry, it would appear the AI is not talked about so much as people physically struggle to do so.
Have you ever come across this thing in your disclosures?

I think many would benefit if this thing was more widespread.

Peace
Iain

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Yes I have but this topic is like trying to wade thru quicksand, as soon as you talk (move) further under (stopped) you become


THE WATCHER

Barry I am in full agreement with that statement. Iain, hence my private correspondence. I was going to post that message to the forum but a little intuition said not to. As it was, my internet kept going off-line so it took some time to actually send that email. Not at all surprised though, somethings wish to remain hidden.

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Changes around me are exerting influences concerning my disclosing, not in a negative way, simply directional in nature. Future posts may be more condensed and edited.


THE WATCHER

[James Casbolt]

Hi Barry

Did you hear what happened at the weekend in this area?

I've posted this information at the end of my thread

All the best

James

[James Casbolt]

[B]The firm just told my friend the following regarding me-

"The guy was kind of... weird. He mentioned that "it would be unwise for me to continue to talk to a ticking bomb." I think you'll know what that means. He also blabbered on about it being unable to stop the future and that we were too late. Strange, strange person"B]

[James Casbolt]

MI-6 operative ALFRED BONNER is in my local area

Kindly inform him that if he wants to talk to me, he knows were I am

[THEWATCHER]

I have not been too well past few days James, out of touch so will see what can do OK?

[Lythocrist]

May health, and good will come to you.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Lythocrist

May health, and good will come to you.

Thankyou, I appreciate that


THE WATCHER

[James Casbolt]

Hope you feel better soon my friend

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

I have not been too well past few days James, out of touch so will see what can do OK?

Good luck with your recovery. It is unusual to go a few days without seeing a reply from you.

[THEWATCHER]

Thankyou, I shall return just as soon as health permits

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

EDITED AT HIGHER LEVEL REQUEST..........


Saturday May 11th 1974 began on a high note. Myself and fellow BUFORA Investigator were assigned to investigate a possible ufo landing case in Leighton Buzzard, Hertfordshire. The outcome proved less of a high however as torrential rain stopped us from finding the original witness and alleged landing site. In short, due to the weather we left the case in the lap of the local BUFORA member whom we requested to begin an investigation on our behalf. We drove homewards to Essex. My fellow investigator lived in Chingford at that time.

We drove south, looking left I realised where we were, Sewardstone road and stated something to the effect of "Hey, thats Barn Hill Yeah?". A nod of agreement from him, then a realisation. We stopped the car on the grass verge and both got out of the car, stood by the fence and gazed silently over towards the copse and the ridge. Both silently deep in thought, of the day back in 1970 when the 2 Enfield children were found. We spoke about what we each were doing that day. After a time, looking around casually I noticed what looked like a person standing by the trees on the ridge and called my friends attention to it.

The ridge and treeline from our position is approx 400yds. We decided to have a closer look and reached into the car for our respective binoculars and then focussed on the figure, standing completely still, facing us.
Thru the 10x50 binoculars the figure was indeed perplexing, it was approx average human height, wore what could only be described as a black gown which reached from the neck down to the ground. It had long blonde/white hair but what disturbed me was that the being had no facial features at all, a blank. My fellow investigator was just as agitated as I was at seeing this. Talking between ourselves as to what the hell was going on, he said look to the left of the trees, I raised my bins and followed his finger pointing, there, stood an identical being, swinging back towards the right the first being had gone, then left again but that being had gone too. Totally bewildred I lit a cigarette and leaned back on the car wondering what this was all about. My friend shouted "Look, along the hedgerows"..........these were about half way, about 200Yds away from us. Now this sounds funny but only was funny looking back afterwards, at the time I was seriously puzzled and concerned. Along the hedgerows ran, at a pretty fast pace, a white roughly human shaped 'thing', it had no features at all, this was joined by another nearby. These were simply aimlessly dashing about.

Enough is enough I thought, I said to my friend something to the effect that, and I was joking, that these were the two ghosts of the Enfield children. It was meant as a joke but my friend said "****" and got back in the car hurriedly saying lets get out of here.
We drove away and stopped in a carpark a mile or so away and discussed what we had just seen, what a day this is turning out to be. We laughed at our rapid departure, two grown men scared away by dashing around little whatever they were LOL.

It was dark by now and we decided to drive back to the location and make sure these little critters had gone. We parked up again on the grass verge. This road is called Sewardstone road, a busy road with set back houses behind us, traffic light at this time but busy during the day.
We got out of the car and with our binoculars stood at the wire fence, looking towards the ridge, scanning the hedgerows and the copse. After a short time I noticed a small red light just above the trees, it was a slightly bigger red light thru the lenses.

The light rose a little, this is the first memory blur, more follow. The light turned into a machine, a craft of some sort, low above the trees, it began moving and heading in our direction, gaining altitude as it did so but not very much. It was dark colored, had a large circular light in its centre and a large circular light near each tip. It was shaped as I can best describe it as a central sphere or ball with an ice cream cone either side, giving the exact same shape as if seen from front, back, top or below. Around the central sphere revolved a small blue light. As it approached it emitted a strange sound, I struggled to hear and told my friend to switch off the car engine in order to hear better. Yes a very distinct two tone sound was now clearly audible. Similar to a ships sonar, a ping...ping...........ping..ping...........ping..p ing.

As it neared almost overhead my friend grabbed his camera from the car and started taking pictures. At that moment two young girls were walking behind us and I turned around and asked them what they thought the object I was pointing at might be. The stopped, looked up, panicked and ran. Cars were passing by each way now and again on the road. I looked over at the houses and noticed a man standing by his front gate, arms folded, intently watching the scene. Great I thought, We will nab him later and have words.

My friend was rapidly taking pictures as the craft went slowly overhead and was lost to view in a bank of clouds over towards Enfield.
The memory jumps a couple of times when recalling this incident which were explained after I received regression in January of 1978.
These jumps will be detailed at end.

Right, the craft has gone, two very perplexed and in truth shaky investigators stand at the roadside, rapidly talking. Calming down we note the time and decide to get home and write out all that occurred that evening whilst still fresh. My friend dropped me at my home and drove back home to Chingford. By the time I sat down at my parents house it was after 10pm, Match of the day was on the TV (soccer coverage BBC1 prog).
I fixed myself a drink and a snack and made my way to my room. I sat for ages writing all I could of the day from start to finish.

Early next day, Sunday 12th, my friend and I visited the then BUFORA NIC Ken Phillips, we gave him our reports and detailed what we experienced. We talked of other witnesses, mentioning the two young girls and the man standing outside his house. Onto possible photographic evidence, even though the camera my friend used was an Instamatic 126 cartridge camera, not best type for night shots, there was a slim chance something might show up in print. We discussed possible inside sources for developement of the film rather than risk a commercial company. I suggested Omar Fowler, a prominent Ufologist at that time in Surrey. The Film cartridge was sent to him by Ken with covering letter explaining the event. We waited anxiously for results.

Tracing the two girls was impossible, we drew a blank with the man too, when we knocked on his front door and explained who we were and what we wanted he stood expressionless and said he was sitting watching TV all evening, never left the room, when told I saw him outside watching the 'display' he emphatically denied it and told us to **** off and never come back!!.

This was not looking good, we returned to Kens place and stated we drew a blank with other witnesses. He suggested any other possible evidence, traces maybe at the site. It was agreed we would return to the area and have a good look around.
In the bright sunlit afternoon walking up towards the ridge we stopped at the copse and could not resist a quick peek inside, the place where 4 years earlier those two small bodies were recovered. At the ridge, by the trees I looked around and smiled, looking up at the end trees and I smiled more. Branches lay on the ground, branches were damaged on the trees too. I took many color photographs of this damage. Fully detailed reports were drawn up by myself and separately by my fellow investigator, and presented to BUFORA along with pictures. I also sent a similar detailed report with pictures to the MoD and to CUFOS in the USA. (This report was later detailed in the CUFOS backed report by Ted Bloecher, 1976 "Physical Trace Cases".

A week or two after the sending of the film to Omar we received bad news. Evidently the film had jammed in the cartridge, we had no photo evidence!!

So, that was that, the report was detailed in the Summer 1974 BUFORA Journal.

The memory jumps.......As the craft was approaching our position the 2 tone pinging sound was so loud I momentarilly switched positions from the side of the road to a point above and looking down at us. Then I am not at the roadside but inside a darkened room looking at a small screen, seeing myself and friend at the roadside.
After regression this evolved into being taken into the craft after the minds of both of us were scanned and only I was found to be suitable, the pinging sound was the scanning and conditioning of our minds.
I will detail what little of this time inside the room later.

[THEWATCHER]

Two artists impressions of the craft seen at Barn Hill May 11th 1974









These were to be used in the book by UK Ufologist John Hanson "Our Haunted Skies"
The first one is slightly more like actual shape but central sphere was much bigger, less angular, the second pic is very close but needs more rounding.


THE WATCHER