Billy Meier's Contacts & Prophecies:23rd feb-coast vids.

[Luminari]

J Rod 7, maybe you can please tell me; what happened to Randolph Winters?

Mr Horn is lacking in humility, has gone out of his way to attack people when it was not necessary, ie: the exopolitics people (not referring to this latest interview). Makes offensive and silly claims that there are no other contactees or even genuine UFOs that are not somehow related to the Meier case.. And sells the Meier material at high prices on dozens of separate discs when they could easily fit altogether on 1 data disc.

Im sure he believes he is doing his 'misson' well but I think he is doing it in a very unspiritual business like manner. I am still and have been supporting Mr Horns mostly commendable efforts for years but these are some of my issues with his involvement.

I encourage people if they haven't done so, to watch 'The Pleiadian Connection' by Randolph Winters and other lectures from that era. And like J Rod correctly pointed out The teachings of creational laws and spiritual evolution are THE most important aspect of this whole case.. NOT what 'cars' these guys are driving or whether you believe the skeptic dubunking re: the wedding cake photos (there are dozens of other authentic photos by Meier anyway, so the wedding cake ship is irrelevant in the big picture).

Mr Meier is a pure-hearted guy who never personally claimed to be a prophet.
That is information given to him by the Plejaren.
I agree that this case would be 1 million times easier for people to believe if they had never told Meier that he was formerly Jmmanuel AND Mohammed AND several other biblical prophets.. an error on their judgment? Who are WE to really know, it is hard.

[J_rod7]

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Warmest Greetings to All in Peace,

I address here the confusion as to "how many true contactees," and certain misperceptions of Billy as the "only contactee."
Following is conversation recorded in Message From the Pleiades, the Contact Notes of Eduard Billy Meier.
These books have been re-released, available at: http://www.theyfly.com/

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39th Contact

Date of contact: Wednesday, 3 December 1975

Semjase- 135/ So I will tell you the data once more respecting the contactees to dispel all misunderstanding. Earth contactees of greater meaning are those 21 who I have named for you.
137/ Besides this, there are still three more important persons whose names I was still not allowed to give to you.
138/ Besides these, you are most important of all, because you have to fulfill the mission of offering the spiritual lessons, for which reason you have been prepared for your prophecy since earliest childhood.
139/ Furthermore, there are still more than 17,000 Earth human beings who are consciously or unconsciously in contact with extraterrestrial intelligences.
142/ Besides these can still be named different hundreds of persons who became known to the world publicly for having come into contact with extraterrestrial creatures, and who still partly maintain these contacts.

Billy- But please tell me now in a list your data, and also tell me how many Earth human beings have already seen [TRUE] UFOs, if you know this data.

Semjase- 161/ The amount of [true] observers might already reach the first billion.

168/ [The number of] 173 of the 17,718 contactees have a half-important meaning in fulfillment of certain missions.
170/ [The number of] 24 of the 17,718 contactees have greater importance in the fulfillment of certain missions.
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35th Contact (Link)= http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_M...tact_Report_35

Date of contact: Tuesday, 16 September 1975

Ptaah- The next inhabited system is around five lightyears away from Earth.
998/ Different worlds in that system are inhabited by human forms of life, who differ little from your races.
999/ In their development they are some years in advance of that of the Earth human beings, spiritually as well as technologically.
1001/ They have already achieved space-flight in primitive form, and also do visit Earth.

1006/ Besides the other races of these worlds, this one race comes often to Earth.
1007/ This is because their homeworld, which is no greater than Earth herself, suffers from overcrowding, and needs huge quantities of food.
1008/ For this reason, beings from that planet, called "Akart", come to Earth often to collect there plants, vegetables, fruits and grains, to nourish their 23 billion population.

Billy- ...do other creatures in that system also come to Earth,

Ptaah- 1016/ The others come there and also to Earth, but this occurs rather seldom.
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An extensive list of media reports, books, videos, and articles - reference Billy, the Plejarens, and the Mission, are found at this Link:
http://meiercase.0x2a.info/meiercase/001/index.php

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I hope this clears up some misperceptions. Cheers

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[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Luminari

J Rod 7, maybe you can please tell me; what happened to Randolph Winters?

If anyone can answer this question, would be greatly appreciated.

[micjer]

Originally Posted by Luminari

If anyone can answer this question, would be greatly appreciated.

You may not like what I found...


This is what Billy wrote saying that Randolph was not telling the truth.

Randolph Winters was never on the "staff of FIGU." He was a self-proclaimed FIGU member who ultimately was out to cash in on what he viewed as a marketable "product". FIGU's and Meier's disassociation with him has been known for years. (whether or not Winters cares to admit the truth of what really happened). His material, which I've listened to for years, is full of verifiable errors, therefore why would you trust with certainty anything he has to say?

Posted by FIGU in 1994:

Randolph Winters New Lies, Misrepresentations, Errors and Intrigues from the USA Within certain circles in the United States of America, Randolph Winters is a well known and popular man because he depicts himself as a direct and authorized Billy Meier representative, and boasts, particularly at lectures, of his close association and collaboration with Billy and the F.I.G.U. - which is a verifiable lie. Without authorization, and in spite of a prohibition by F.I.G.U. and the Pleiadians to do so, Randolph Winters has the audacity to give lectures and radio/TV interviews, and at the height of impertinence and disdain he formed The Pleiades Project. Randolph Winters, who may be considered as one of the Mission's greatest liars and profiteers in the USA today, has now published a book with the grandiose title The Pleiadian Mission. In it he unleashes information on Billy's contacts, the Pleiadian mission and F.I.G.U. and launches wild and shabby proclamations that are not based on any truthful background whatsoever. (The same applies to Winters' UFO - The Pleiadian Contacts, a 16 audio tape set plus a book of drawings and diagrams, and the video tape The Pleiadian Connection.)

Billy Meier and F.I.G.U. hereby expressly distance themselves from Winters' deception and are able to state, after an in-depth review, that the book contains numerous untruthful details and many lies as well as misrepresentations, e.g., Randolph's claim that the contacts had been terminated in 1978. It is a lie that the contacts with the Pleiadians have ended on Thursday, October 19, 1978, and that Billy was incapable of heading F.I.G.U., as Winters states on page 232 in his book The Pleiadian Mission. The truth is that the contacts are ongoing even now (1994), and neither the Pleiadians nor Billy are planning to end the contacts in the near future.

Concerning the contact reports it must be stated that the 115th contact took place on October 19, 1978, and that Billy has since had 174 additional contacts. Of these 174 contacts, 135 were official and the basis for contact reports; 39 were of an unofficial nature and no contact reports were written on them. At this time, late 1994, 250 official contact reports are in evidence. There exist many very erroneous statements in Randolph Winters' book regarding data, representations of truth on Creation, and other specifications and statements of facts and the like. The material Randolph Winters used in his book had been given to him by Billy in confidence for Randolph's own use, respectively his personal progression. In effect, however, the material was later stolen and utilized for commercial and profiteering purposes without ever having received any type of authorization to do so, without asking Billy for his permission, or without compensating Billy in any manner for unlawfully using his material and intellectual information, to mention but a few points.

"Billy" Eduard Albert Meier
Semjase-Silver-Star-Center
CH-8495 Hinterschmidrueti ZH, Switzerland