Would this bother you?

[andromeda]

Originally Posted by rustanddust

I think it might be because of how everything is 'taken care of' and 'provided for you'? if everyone gets what they want and never works for anything all we would do is just lie around and get fat, indulgent and stupid. somewhat like how it its now. it IS very disturbing and I don't think anyone truely wants that. if we want something like this to happen, it will happen through our own toil and effort.

grow our own food. get your own water. build your own house and community. work for what you need. what we work for is what we get. this is the way to do it. having a silver spoon shoved up our collective asses won't accomplish anything and is exactly what the negative forces in this world want as they lead us to the slaughter house. lets not make that happen.

In other realities or planets all the needs of their people are taken care of...because of that people have the opportunity to use their creativity and grace the universe with wonderful new varieties of plants, animals, worlds etc.

Somebody, somewhere has to do the creating, maybe this is our time...

I would suggest to explore Alan Watts and Terence Mackenna to understand how "culture" have been created to make us believe that the sole purpose of life is to work ourselves to dead...it is as I see it a very convenient "belief" to implant in your slaves if one belongs to the ruling classes.

In planet earth work has been sold to the inhabitants as noble and right, paying taxes makes you a "good" citizen, even if your money is used to kill people on nonsensical wars; having a job makes you "desirable", etc.,

But reality is very different, 95 pct of working people are dissatisfied with their jobs and a wopping 45 pct suffers from chronic stress

Stress is the single most important cause behind chronic illnesses like strokes, heart disease and even cancers...

I don't believe that one's job should become one's identity but that is how our western society works

What is wrong with having your needs meet and colaborating with your creativity for the common good

We are something else than our labels, aren't we?



Love

[SunRa]

i love to cook
what would i do if there was a cooking machine? what would be the point to cook?
i love to sew clothes
what would i do if there was a clothing machine?
i love to heal
i love to build things
i love to clean even...

when i cook
i put energy into it... it does something to the food that a machine could not

when i clean
i put energy into it... it does something to the feel of the room that a machine could not

i could go on and on
but i believe my point is made...

::smiles::
SunRa

[Racsouran]

we came here to work

on wathever thing but to work.

And we really like that.

[DoctorTony]

I've been trying to manifest that for a long time. I'm close, but starting to feel guilty about how easy things are. Why?

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by doodah

Acora, I agree with you. Give a mathematician that scenario and they'd go full tilt doing what they love to do. All those gardeners out there wouldn't stop gardening, because they love working with the soil. Artists would love this scenario. What people now call their "hobbies" would become their "work." Everyone would be much happier.

When I read it, my heart screamed I have a lot of non-work related goals I want to pursue. Just imagine not having to earn a wage to pay for basics... I could dedicated myself to my music and my alternative health research I could help my family out more too with just about everything! And volunteer, although there wouldn't be great need for those things since there's no money and no effort required for basics... I'm trying to change my life right now, because I believe if everyone were to pursue their heart's desire, we'd be set. So I need to go whole-hog for mine, and not worry about 'how'.

Wow, this idea of having the basics taken care of... It breaks my heart that we can think it but not manifest it

Originally Posted by andromeda

I would suggest to explore Alan Watts and Terence Mackenna to understand how "culture" have been created to make us believe that the sole purpose of life is to work ourselves to dead...it is as I see it a very convenient "belief" to implant in your slaves if one belongs to the ruling classes.

In planet earth work has been sold to the inhabitants as noble and right, paying taxes makes you a "good" citizen, even if your money is used to kill people on nonsensical wars; having a job makes you "desirable", etc..

It is very sad I've talked about not paying taxes or what if no one had to work with people over the years, and I usually find resistance, either because the person feels that we should have to EARN these things, or that they don't want slackers able to take advantage of a generous system, or whatever. It's bizarre people have such ingrained beliefs about having to work hard just to live a meager existence.

To the people who would have difficulty with a scenario as the OP suggests, I ask:

Wouldn't it be good if there were no poverty?
Wouldn't it be good to NOT support crooks and criminals, to support wars, to support unethical business practices, because you no longer pay taxes, because you no longer work for these criminal corporations, etc?
Wouldn't it be good if everyone had more time for their families, or for themselves?

I think some people get trapped in the way the world is now, and see the poor examples as what would take over. We see undesirable qualities of greed and mindlessness and ignorance in some, apply it to the majority, and then envision these people becoming even moreso that way would they be granted more freedom. But I think if society were totally engineered differently, surely that would impact mental sets, beliefs, etc.

Anyway, this idea is going to carry me around for the next few days, I can see that.