alien agenda taking place proof is in my story and the infrastructure already built

[PK47]

orthodoxymoron: When you deliberately go and contact someone yourself it is not intervention, it's your choice, your risk. Also, there are no such thing as malevolent or benevolent that's only human perception.. Different ETs and Aliens have different nature most of them (ETs) in our galaxy are perceived as benevolent by us.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by PK47

orthodoxymoron: When you deliberately go and contact someone yourself it is not intervention, it's your choice, your risk. Also, there are no such thing as malevolent or benevolent that's only human perception.. Different ETs and Aliens have different nature most of them (ETs) in our galaxy are perceived as benevolent by us.

So...there is no such thing as evil-spirits and demon possession? No aliens who abduct and eat humans? No evil non-humans behind the New World Order? No alien agenda which involves enslavement and extermination? The ETs in our galaxy are probably very nice and ethical. It's the ETs who allegedly have been living within the earth for thousands of years who I have issues with. I think they should leave(they probably think we should leave). See below:

[timetotelltheworld]

:w all:
THEY MURDERED ALL MY REALITIVES WHAT PART OF THAT ARE YOU NOT GETTING,,,,,,THATS THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING REPACED AND THAT THEY HAVE BUILT AN INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS PLANET.....

HUMANS IF THERE ARE ANY LEFT PAY ATTENTION TO THE DISTRACTIONS AND DISCREDITING THEY ARE EXTREMILY CUNNING AND WILL MANIPULATE EVERY SITUATION TO WORK IN THEY'RE FAVOR....

ALIENS : I HATE YOU AND THERE IS NO WORD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE OR ANY LANGUAGE WHICH WILL AMPLIFY HOW I FEEL TOWARDS YOU BUGGERS....

WOULDNT IT BE NICE IF WE COULD ALL GO BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING AND START THIS ALL OVER FROM CREATION

AND NOT CREATE THESE VIAL CREATURES WHO HAVE DEFILED THIS PLANET

GET RID OF THEM COMPLETLY LIKE THEY NEVER EXISTED.....

WOULDNT THAT BE NICE ....WHAT IF WE COULD

THIS ALIEN RACE WOULD BE SCREWED WOULDNT THEY......

WELL WHAT IF WE CAN START THIS TIME LINE OVER ALL THE TIME LINES WHAT IF THERE IS ONE WHO CAN DO THAT...WHAT IF HE IS HERE AND HE IS ANGRY AND HE WILL DO IT....

START ALL THIS OVER ERASE ALL OF HISTORY AND START IT OVER AND GET RID OF THEM COMPLETLY

WHAT IF THATS TRUE IT WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE DREAM COME TRUE WOULDNT IT....

[PK47]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

So...there is no such thing as evil-spirits and demon possession? No aliens who abduct and eat humans? No evil non-humans behind the New World Order? No alien agenda which involves enslavement and extermination? The ETs in our galaxy are probably very nice and ethical. It's the ETs who allegedly have been living within the earth for thousands of years who I have issues with. I think they should leave(they probably think we should leave). See below:

sigh.. Did I ever claim that? Abductions, sacrificial rituals, genetic experiment, NWO all are real... you guys never seem to get to the point... ok i'll leave u guys alone, take wahtever u want to be true..
peace!

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by PK47

sigh.. Did I ever claim that? Abductions, sacrificial rituals, genetic experiment, NWO all are real... you guys never seem to get to the point... ok i'll leave u guys alone, take wahtever u want to be true..
peace!

What part of the following did I not get?

'Also, there are no such thing as malevolent or benevolent that's only human perception.. Different ETs and Aliens have different nature most of them (ETs) in our galaxy are perceived as benevolent by us.'

You seem to be implying that ETs are not a threat or danger to humans. I tend to think that the ones who are here are not our friends. Who was it that said 'there is no right or wrong...but thinking makes it so'? I disagree with that statement. I want to peacefully interact with non-humans of all kinds...but I'm not really into the enslavement and extermination thing...you know...E&E.

[PK47]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

What part of the following did I not get?

'Also, there are no such thing as malevolent or benevolent that's only human perception.. Different ETs and Aliens have different nature most of them (ETs) in our galaxy are perceived as benevolent by us.'

You seem to be implying that ETs are not a threat or danger to humans. I tend to think that the ones who are here are not our friends. Who was it that said 'there is no right or wrong...but thinking makes it so'? I disagree with that statement. I want to peacefully interact with non-humans of all kinds...but I'm not really into the enslavement and extermination thing...you know...E&E.

My whole point from rest of the posts was that Draco, Illuminati, and some greys are threat to us as long as we allow them to control us. Most of the ETs in our galaxy are neural or benevolent and this is a fact! This doesn't mean that Dracos and Rigelians are good to us! This was the primary reason why galactic federation was formed and we are not yet ready to join this federation (or any other councils) because our species mind pattern is in victimization state. We can never be free from Draco and others' tyranny and occupation unless we reclaim ourselves and be our own government! That's the whole point and for this to happen massive awakening is vital!
Also There is a difference between ETs and Alien in government terminology. Stew explains this in this video: youtube.com/watch?v=CcRcY58Izaw

[orthodoxymoron]

TTW: What kind of aliens do you think are the malevolent ones who have been abusing the human race? Where do they live? Should they just leave Earth...or should they leave the Solar System? If they arrived in Spaceship Moon and Spaceship Venus...should they take their spaceships with them when they leave? What would happen to Earth if Venus and the Moon were removed? I hope they don't ram us with Venus or the Moon in an episode of interplanetary space-rage! Can't you just see a Reptilian smoking a cigar while ramming Earth with the Moon?!! I don't want them to be hurt or killed. I don't want them to go away mad. I just want them to go away. Don't let the Asteroid Belt hit you guys on your way out of the Solar System! Go with God!

Or should I say...Leave with Lucifer?

Seriously...it may turn out that you Reptilians and Greys are much smarter and more advanced than we are(I suspect that we have obtained science, technology, architecture, art, music, religions, literature, etc. from you)...but the evidence is that you have been harsh taskmasters of the human race...and even if there was a reason for you to be here in the past...that time has passed. You Reptilians and Greys probably think I'm a smart-alec ingrate...and you would be correct. I just want Earth to be run properly. There are irreconcilable differences between our races...at least historically and presently. We could call this proposed split...a trial separation. You get Venus and the Moon. We get Earth and the Kids. I really mean no harm...and I really don't know what I'm talking about...but this is how I see things presently.

[orthodoxymoron]

PK47: I figured that's what you meant. Sorry if I put words in your mouth(I have enough trouble putting words in my own mouth).

Sometimes I'm not sure if our species is in victimization state or predatory state. The two states feed off of each other. It seems as though we need to battle both extremes...and end up in a state of personal responsibility...where we are neither masters nor slaves. I keep hoping that the Dracos will achieve this as well. Somewhere and somewhen...the Dracos took a wrong turn...and it may be very difficult for them to get back on track. I'd love to work with them...but not as their slave...or their master. At this point...the two races may need to be separated from each other...but it doesn't have to be this way.

By the way...do the reptilians and greys prefer to live underground...or do they live underground because they have to? Do they really want to mostly exterminate us...and completely take over the surface world?

[PK47]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Sometimes I'm not sure if our species is in victimization state or predatory state. The two states feed off of each other. It seems as though we need to battle both extremes...and end up in a state of personal responsibility...where we are neither masters nor slaves.

When there is a victimization mind pattern then you attract predator. You could individually also attract negative experiences because of some of your issues from simultaneous existences (past and future lives within different timeliness).

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

By the way...do the reptilians and greys prefer to live underground...or do they live underground because they have to? Do they really want to mostly exterminate us...and completely take over the surface world?

I don't know about greys but Lemurian Dracos prefer to live on warmer surface and many do live on uninhabited warm areas on earth. They do want to officially completely take over (indirectly they already control everything) but they don't want population wiped out. if they really wanted to exterminate us then they would have done so ages ago. If you have 15 free slaves and servants in your home then do you want to wipe 10 out and only keep 5 when you know that 15 would better serve you? No. They only don't want truly awakened ppl. All these theory about population reduction and blah blah.. are to keep ppl in fear and panic (Alex Jones??) so that they can be easily controllable. But mind you that they do want certain races of ppl to be completely wiped out.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by PK47

...All these theory about population reduction and blah blah.. are to keep ppl in fear and panic (Alex Jones??) so that they can be easily controllable. But mind you that they do want certain races of ppl to be completely wiped out.

I know that Stewart Swerdlow does not believe the Illuminati want to cull world population; he thinks they want to keep their slave-race intact.

But I believe there is a book called Goals for Mankind (published in the 70's) by the Club of Rome that called for a reduction of world population to the level of 500 million - 1 billion...

Maybe they're not in agreement about what they want to do...

[PK47]

Originally Posted by seashore

I know that Stewart Swerdlow does not believe the Illuminati want to cull world population; he thinks they want to keep their slave-race intact.

But I believe there is a book called Goals for Mankind (published in the 70's) by the Club of Rome that called for a reduction of world population to the level of 500 million - 1 billion...

Maybe they're not in agreement about what they want to do...

Not only Swerdlow even your own common sense would have once thought that this is a disinfo. If that was their real agenda then it would be a peace of cake for them. What they really want to do or are doing is systematically bringing down and wiping out calculated number of certain population belonging to specific places/races. They would not bring slave population down to 1 billion. They might only think of doing that if mass number of peoples start to awaken from every corner of the world. But even if that kind of awakening happens then they might just leave earth without getting into enough trouble.

[orthodoxymoron]

Can there be a happy outcome for both the reptilian and human races? Who wants to be a slave? We seem to be livestock owned by the reptilians...or so they think. Is this acurate? Could both races peacefully and happily live under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights? Is the U.N. Charter really a reptilian document? If the reptilians really exist...I see a storm coming here on Earth...which could potentially wipe out both the reptilian and human populations. Is this accurate or alarmist? Would the reptilian population willingly leave Earth? I suspect that the general human population would want them removed or eliminated if they knew what was really going on. Is this accurate or alarmist? So many questions...so little time.

[PK47]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Can there be a happy outcome for both the reptilian and human races?

Yes if reptilians change their attitude and belief system. but is this likely going to happen? No. Why? as you know unlike mammalians reptilian DNAs takes very long time to change so they cannot easily change their belief system like humans do.

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Who wants to be a slave? We seem to be livestock owned by the reptilians...or so they think. Is this acurate?

Not only by reptilians but by greys and some others too.

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Could both races peacefully and happily live under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights? Is the U.N. Charter really a reptilian document? If the reptilians really exist...I see a storm coming here on Earth...which could potentially wipe out both the reptilian and human populations. Is this accurate or alarmist? Would the reptilian population willingly leave Earth? I suspect that the general human population would want them removed or eliminated if they knew what was really going on. Is this accurate or alarmist? So many questions...so little time.

Why do you want someone to live under laws and rules that You yourself think it is good i.e. US constitution and Bill of rights? Do you not think for once that Reptilians could be thinking of the same e.g. keeping humans in control under reptilians being the best thing? Do you not realize that the constitution and Bill of rights were given by the same ppl who financed all world wars, financed American revolution, holocausted native ppl of Americas, Canada and other places?? Do you really think this one world government that elites are trying to bring is really bad? or is it our wake up call to something that we are so pathetically missing to see? For a moment forget all religions, all governments, all cultures, all borders and nations, then think what will be left? The solution is within you. Just remember that the reptilians and NWO are reflections of ourselves, our collective mind pattern. The power to overcome is within ourselves. This cannot be won by war, by protest, by getting back constitution and by forcing others to live under it. Do you not know that United States of America is a Virginia Corporation administered by British Monarchy and owned by Vatican? If you did not know this before then read some Law books and research. US was never free. Know your God given rights and see all as one.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by PK47

Do you not know that United States of America is a Virginia Corporation administered by British Monarchy and owned by Vatican? If you did not know this before then read some Law books and research. US was never free.

Did you get this from the documentary Ring of Power by Amenstop Productions?

What Law books? Have you read Law books?

[PK47]

Originally Posted by seashore

Did you get this from the documentary Ring of Power by Amenstop Productions?

What Law books? Have you read Law books?

When you go through a law book or online law dictionary then you will find out that USA is not defined as country but as a corporation including many other countries. If you do little more research then you will find out that USA is really a Virginia Company created at England in 1606. many numerology, symbols, and names used in government also points out to this fact. You know what corporation is right? It is an artificial person (Watch the documentary "The Corporation"). 'Ring of Power' is very accurate docu although it has been debunked for lazy-asses who don't do much of their own research.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by PK47

When you go through a law book or online law dictionary then you will find out that USA is not defined as country but as a corporation including many other countries.

But it's a municipal corporation as opposed to a business? Makes no difference?

Originally Posted by PK47

If you do little more research then you will find out that USA is really a Virginia Company created at England in 1606.

I know this about Virginia.

But why do you say the whole USA? You're saying that the other states are subsidiaries or something like that?

Originally Posted by PK47

many numerology, symbols, and names used in government also points out to this fact.

Can you give me one example?

Originally Posted by PK47

(Watch the documentary "The Corporation").

Is this it?

"The Corporation Part One (Of Three)

[PK47]

Originally Posted by seashore

But it's a municipal corporation as opposed to a business? Makes no difference?

government is business, policy is business, war is business, all are business..business of controlling resources and people.

Originally Posted by seashore

I know this about Virginia.

But why do you say the whole USA? You're saying that the other states are subsidiaries or something like that?

Yes whole USA is a corporation. States are different horizontal divisions like in big corporation!?

Originally Posted by seashore

Can you give me one example?

There are way too many evidences that shows connection between Wash DC, Vatican, London and other secret societis and occult and intelligence groups.....go through the works of Jordan Maxwell and Michael Traison on symbolism and occults.

Originally Posted by seashore

Is this it?

"The Corporation Part One (Of Three)

This movie basically explains what corporation is within the business industries. But to know how countries and government are run, info in this docu is not sufficient.

This poster shows in detail the map and connection within world government:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15764393/wordlgovmap
you can save the PDF for yourself for later view.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by PK47

..business of controlling resources and people.

Good point!

Originally Posted by PK47

... you will find out that USA is not defined as country but as a corporation including many other countries... many numerology, symbols, and names used in government also points out to this fact...

Originally Posted by PK47

There are way too many evidences that shows connection between Wash DC, Vatican, London and other secret societis and occult and intelligence groups.....go through the works of Jordan Maxwell and Michael Traison on symbolism and occults.

I know they've researched occult symbolism in corporate logos, but you're saying they've researched governments actually being set up as corporations?

Originally Posted by PK47

This poster shows in detail the map and connection within world government:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15764393/wordlgovmap

Wow! This looks like it should be the size of a wall map of the world in order to comprehend it!

[timetotelltheworld]

i wonder how many posts it will take to totally throw people off the subject of the thread and redirect they're thoughts else where

[sunflower]

Valid point, Timetotelltheworld. But in a real time conversation, isn't that what frequently happens? We go off on all kinds of tangents. When I was teaching elementary school we called that brainstorming!

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by timetotelltheworld

i wonder how many posts it will take to totally throw people off the subject of the thread and redirect they're thoughts else where

The malevolent alien agenda is certainly not to promote Constitutional Responsible Freedom. The real question is...who really runs Earth?
I have a sinking feeling that it's not We the People.

Originally Posted by PK47

This poster shows in detail the map and connection within world government:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15764393/wordlgovmap
you can save the PDF for yourself for later view.

This is quite the flowchart, PK47! A person would need a very wide printer to make a wall poster ... (which I don't have). Very tidy information though -

Not like my own NATO history notes

[orthodoxymoron]

I'm sensing that Kevin has been messed with by some powerful and nasty people. But I'm having a difficult time believing a lot of the story. I am interested in particle accelerators, stargates, hybridization, soul transference, revivification, etc. Could we focus on the potential interrelationship of these subjects? This forum is a real zoo of claims and concepts. People have a right to present them. People have a right to support or refute them.

[14 Chakras]

particle accelerators, stargates, hybridization, soul transference, revivification, etc. Could we focus on the potential interrelationship of these subjects?

All that stuff is being used in some kind of ET battle over who gets to control planet earth after the age change happens.

That being said, ALL of the ET's vying for control over the earth and it's people, do not want the people themselves to ascend to the 5th and past the illusions of duality, because when that happens, they will no longer control planet earth PERIOD. Those made in the image of Elohim, US, will have taken dominion over our planet and ascended in consciousness past all of these arch deceivers. We will learn spiritual protection and take care of our own planet and our selves.

We are NOT a slave race as much as the ET's would like us to believe we are. We are individualization's of the infinite and Christ beings, human beings who overcome their own illusions, will take dominion over this planet for God in all people.

[orthodoxymoron]

14 Chakras: Do you think that once the corrupt kingpins of all races in our solar system are removed from power...that there can be a peaceful coexistence of humans, reptilians, greys, etc? Or must Earth be completely human...with no greys, reptilians, etc? Can humans, reptilians, greys, etc. share power in a constitutional government...in a cooperative solar system?

I'm one of these bleeding hearts who likes to think that 'where there's life...there's hope'...but perhaps this is naive...and does not clearly view the history of the universe...and our present mess. I'm just trying to think through various possibilities...and I'm noticing smoke coming out of my ringing ears...and my hands are shaking more and more. Somethins gonna blow...