Steven Greer Interview Discussion

[TruthWillSetUFree]

I like the way Kerry gets in there and asks the difficult questions. She is pushing the envelop which will help bring in the new paradigm.

I don't feel she is coming from disrespect, but from her intention to get the Truth for herself and all of us. Bill was also on the same page as Kerry and no one brought this up.

Maybe her 'way' is unpopular only because we are so programmed to shake our heads yes, agreeing with someone instead of being straight and speaking ones' truth, this is what we came here for, especially now. She was only forcing Dr Greer to take responsibility for his words, why not, we all need to be responsible for what we are putting out in the world, especially those in the public eye making money off the 'information' they are selling.

We should have more of these rousing debates.
Maybe that's what people are objecting to it being a biased interview by Kerry, instead of calling it an 'interview' we should call it a discussion or a debate.

Bravo Kerry for having the balls to ask the hard questions and putting it all on the line instead of shrinking away from getting the Truth.

Have an extraordinary and Truthful day!

<Truth>

[tone3jaguar]

I do not disagree with this, this is probably exactly how Kerry feels about it also. However, public opinion is probably not going to swing in this type of direction because the public (non-esoteric people) want to see high production value and professionalism on the part of the interviewer is part of that. Perception is 99% of everything. If the goal is to wake more people up then you need to play towards the expectation of the brain washed public to some degree with a healthy balance towards pushing against those expectations.

I know better than to jump to the conclusion that Kerry is to wrapped up in being right to have good judgement. I know better because I have been watching the Camelot Interviews for a while now. On the other hand, if the Greer interview was the first ever Project Camelot video I had ever seen, the perception I form would probably be the opposite. I would probably never visit the Cameot home page and miss out on all of the other good info. This is the possible side effect of the increasing intensity of Kerry's communication habbits.

[tone3jaguar]

To quote Richard Hoagland's response to Kerry's communication style

"Lets get back on the logic train here"

[franciejones]

I do not agree. I don't think any difficult questions were asked. It sounded like an hour was spent with Kerry defending what she posted about Greer on PC and trying to get him to say that what he said was "wrong" or "irresponsible". It did not seem like an interview or a debate. It seemed like an arguement and it was painful to watch

[KellyNUTS]

Originally Posted by franciejones

I do not agree. I don't think any difficult questions were asked. It sounded like an hour was spent with Kerry defending what she posted about Greer on PC and trying to get him to say that what he said was "wrong" or "irresponsible". It did not seem like an interview or a debate. It seemed like an arguement and it was painful to watch

I feel exactly the same!!

Before the "debate" I had my reservations about Greer, but now I think he's totally legit!!
I think Bill & Kerry missed the "point" of what Greer was trying to get across in his speech. If people look at Greer like the Jesus of Disclosure then shame on them!! People need to listen to Greer (& other whistleblowers) and then make up their own mind!!

Originally Posted by krystal

Wow, just heard the Radio interview by Bill with Kerry.... Geez Kerry.... it seems that you are not listening to your viewers and you are continuing to try to explain yourself and your modum of interview.... it won't make any difference now as you DO NOT WANT to listen even to our opinion..... well.... I used to think that you were a little bit enlightened but most of us now know different... Dr Greer is talking from a very high level and I understand why you and many others will never understand. He is totally correct in everything he said and a lot of us are at a higher level and we understand...... you do not have to explain and try and prove him wrong..... it's all about our own levels and the ones who are vibrating at this higher level will understand what I am saying. Also, he was not phased at all by you because he knows and feels at peace with himself and the Universe.

I also agree 110% with this!! Throughout the "debate" I kept saying to myself, I wonder if people will really understand with what Greer means by this and by that.


By the end of it all, I was very disappointed with the interview as I thought it was going to be like the other "Whistleblower" interviews and we were gonna get some tasty info, but all we got was a very repetitive debate.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i think it was good, both sides are known to be quite forceful in their opinions. ive never really heard much from mr greer , i like him. kerry's faceial expression at some points in the interveiw/ argument (lol) toward the camera was a bit disrespectful. i agree also with the concept that say you can have good greys. its like saying all humans are bad. it cant be so. both had valid arguments.

very entertaining tho. i agree with greer that these scientist and insiders on projects are perhaps even more programmed than outsiders. 4 years oxygen and 12 months food sounds like , as hoagland would say'the lie is different at every level'. making blanket statements that all et's are good or any other statement is best left to ones own personal life.

[Practitioner]

In a lengthy interview, through which there was an opportunity for dedicated researchers to compare and corroborate certain facts, very little evidence of material importance was shared. As scientists and investigators, both Greer and Camelot should be willing lay evidence on the table and have a rational discussion in support their respective views. Instead, we were treated to a largely vague argument and conflict of personal reputation. To that end, the interview could have been better organized. Perhaps it was impromptu.

Greer admitted early in the interview that there are several factors that have restricted disclosure, including geo-political and economic (referring to the consolidated power of those who call themselves majestic). At the same time, I think that both Greer and Camelot realize that the current situation is dynamically changing--the consciousness of people on earth (and perhaps elsewhere) is changing; the environment is changing (perhaps on a cosmic scale)--and likely this makes it difficult for either side offer definitive conclusions.

Have human beings' and other beings' bodies been cloned? Quite likely.

Have extra-terrestrials and/or inter-dimensionals interfered with humankind at a physical and psychological level? Apparently.

Have there existed both 'positive' and 'negative' agendas for power and control? It seems so.

Should people awaken themselves and comport themselves in a positive and vigilant manner? Not a bad idea.

In the end, I'm not sure that Camelot and Greer are really in disagreement. However, I sense that Greer feels restricted in terms of what he is at liberty to pronounce in a public forum.

[krystal]

I just felt that Stephen Greer came from a higher level of understanding and to understand at this level one must be vibrating at this frequency or else they will miss his important information and message.

[golden lady]

I think Kerry was caught up with winning the argument and frustrated by not getting Steven Greer to see it her way.
I hope this hasn't led to a lost opportunity which Camelot may not ever get back as I feel there was so much more ground to be covered. I did enjoy it though, more of discussion than an interview.
To some extent I think they are both right in as much as, to be so convinced there are no negative ETs does seem a little nieve and I can see how possible Bill and Kerry's perpective is different.
However, having said that, whatever type of ET turns up, I think Steven Greer is right in our approach has to be different. As he said otherwise we are just repeating the same old.
The whole thing is just so multi layered to find the truth, the real truth of it all, I guess only time will tell.
Till then.
LOve and peace
Golden

[Noela]

That is what the politicians call "a full and frank discussion".

Actually I found it much more interesting, and at times, inspiring
than I had anticipated having read the reactions of previous posters.

Kerry may have some points in the position she is taking, but
overall I entirely support Dr. Greer in his views and his outlook
for the future.

I feel the danger lies in Kerry's position - in that a negative
outlook allows for the possibility of a negative outcome

I do not think this will be the case, and this is where I found
Dr. Greer's vision of a time of universal peace inspiring, given
the fact that he is in a position to influence a great many people.

:thumb_yell o:

Happily, this may have cleared the air a bit between P.C and
Dr. Greer. I particularly noticed Kerry's continual reaching out
and touching Dr. Greer. Not the sort of body language one uses
when in total animosity!

[Myplanet2]

This forum would be a different place if more was known about how the law of attraction actually works.

[14 Chakras]

If you ignore the fact that there are germs, and you stop washing your hands, but you just try and positively focus on health, does that mean you won't get sick?

For me, it's important to be practical realist here.

Let's consider the possibility that Arizona Wilder's interview with David Eycke is legitimate:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ghlight=wilder

, and that we do have shape shifting jerky aliens in charge of large portions of our governments.

Will the world be saved if we just ignore reality and focus on the light?

More importantly, if we are ignorant about what various aliens motivations are, is it possible when we are focused on the 'light' we may be focused on a false light?

For example, if aliens revealed themselves and pitched we just needed to join their club or get into their spaceship and they sold it all nice, like our governments sell their programs all nice to us, is it possible we would be more likely to be duped if we just ignored the possibility that they may not have our best interest at heart?

Consider in the star wars universe how the Jedi get duped when fighting for the 'republic'. The republic sounds great and all nice, just like the United Nations does, or perhaps like Ashtar and the 'galactic federation' does, but in reality it was run by the darkest of the dark.

It is very important to achieve discernment before blindly focusing on the light, because if we focus on a false light, then we will be feeding the darkness and the problem.

Let's not get duped like the Jedi were who fought for the republic only to be killed and see the republic turn into the disease of the 'new galactic empire'.

If there are nasty aliens running the show on planet earth in part right now, let's not pretend otherwise, let's just look for the true light, which is definitely there as we can all feel it inside of us!

The true light comes from the higher realms, and it is worth considering the earth will be saved not by some alien pacts, but by humans connecting to the true light within themselves beyond the illusions of the human ego.

We are co-creators, and this is our world to take dominion over, we just have to take our power back through the Self Realization of who we really are.

In addition, if we are going to focus on working with the light, then why should we keep our attention on et's who may or may not have our best interest at heart, when we can be focused on working with the ascended host, like Archangel Michael, to help us bring in the change that is necessary to help raise up this planet.

[tone3jaguar]

[quote]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

If you ignore the fact that there are germs, and you stop washing your hands, but you just try and positively focus on health, does that mean you won't get sick?

Yes and no, if one only focuses on health and does nothing else to raise their vibrational frequency then they will still get sick. If they do the spiritual work that is needed for them then they will more times than not avoid getting sick. There are no silver bullets.

Will the world be saved if we just ignore reality and focus on the light?

No, we are not here to ignore reality. We are here to learn from it.

More importantly, if we are ignorant about what various aliens motivations are, is it possible when we are focused on the 'light' we may be focused on a false light?

There have been false "illuminated" beings that have already tricked huge numbers of people into following their agenda, ex. (lucifer) It is possible for some to focus on a false light. This is the danger of deification of higher dimensional entities. The ones that are of the light require zero worship.

[SWIFT]

Hi Everyone,
The Dr Greer , Bill and Kerry PC interview was quite intresting after reading the transcripts which showed a different version of events (thankyou PC). I must admit I found the method of the interview a bit disturbing from PC point of view. However, after reading the transcripts must say Kerry did a great job in retreving the information from Dr Greer. The facts that needed to be answered by all is how is discloure going come out if we are fighting among ourselves? Secondly PC are doing there best and are facing a properganda machine which can call on huge amounts of funding which is preventing the truth being revaled. Thridly, there are people facing threats from forces which are not freindly and maybe from outside our domain and we need to beware of this danger which might threaten our humanity.

The brave people (whitehats as states PC) are trying to give us the information which is greatful and the brave teams of Project Camerlot ,Coast to Coast , Mr Kevin Smith Show and the Veritas Show are great platforms for send the message for full disclousre which thank goodness they are here.

Peace
SWIFT

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Will the world be saved if we just ignore reality and focus on the light?

“The Mind in which you seek is the Mind in which you connect”

“If you have a mindset where everything’s a threat or everything’s fearful. That’s what you’re going to experience..

If you have an extremely spiritual mindset in which you are creating universal love and want to experience the higher dimensions. That is what you are going to experience.”

James Gilliland –
Science, Spirit and World Transformation Conference 2009

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by Luminari

“The Mind in which you seek is the Mind in which you connect”

“If you have a mindset where everything’s a threat or everything’s fearful. That’s what you’re going to experience..

If you have an extremely spiritual mindset in which you are creating universal love and want to experience the higher dimensions. That is what you are going to experience.”

James Gilliland –
Science, Spirit and World Transformation Conference 2009

Did the Inca's create the Spanish? Did the Inca's bring about their own doom? They could not even see the ships in front of them in the water. The mayhem still followed despite the Inca's intentions.

[333mark333]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

This forum would be a different place if more was known about how the law of attraction actually works.

Exactly.. Back to quantum physics from this perception, to I it is the Fundamental.

[Carmen]

I thought that the most important/pertinent part of this interview was Steven Greer's description of his 'dream' of the lions at the end of the interview. I like to take a learning from my studies, and the 'dream' was it.

Cheers

Carmen

[TheChosen]

The 'interview' itself was quite fine and had good arguments on both sides. However I keep noticing these huge little holes.. Small but very important in Dr. Greer's reasoning.

He has experienced inter dimensional 'negative' entities.. but is under the impression that interdimensional is very different than extra terrestrial , while at the same time agreeing that the ET's are multidimensional.

Who is to say that some of those 'negative' interdimensional entities are not in fact ETs that have shifted on those frequencies? To pu it simply , ETs can move in and out of our earthly astral realms.

[jaby]

Originally Posted by Carmen

I thought that the most important/pertinent part of this interview was Steven Greer's description of his 'dream' of the lions at the end of the interview. I like to take a learning from my studies, and the 'dream' was it.

Cheers

Carmen

I LOVED that bit.

I had an experience in a dream that was similar....but not very pleasant like with the lions...but the 'concept' of emotional control in lucid-type dreams was the same.

My dream was like a very deliberate psychic attack on me. Old fashioned Victorian sitting room setting. Someone indistinct was there...but I knew that they were very unpleasant and they were there to drain me or get me in some way. I remembered not to be afraid...and I deliberately maintained a sustained controlled emotional state....not letting 'them' affect me. It was a battle of wills with this 'entity' (me maintaining a no-fear thing) and at it's height I had heat and steam coming from the palms of my hands. Then I woke up. But I could feel a sensation on my palms for a few hours while I was awake.

Bit of a dream ramble there. lol.

I also noted that Steven Greer had this dream while he was in Wiltshire.
The Avebury/Vale of Pewsey area of Wilts is a very special area and almost certainly a major energy vortex place. Maybe not so strong now, as it was in it's hay-day....when the ancient monuments were active and in full swing. But still a place where the veil between the different dimensions is thinner. IMO.

[krystal]

The simple solution to everything is BE VEG, GO GREEN SAVE ALL BEINGS AND OURSELVES! ONLY THEN THERE WILL BE PEACE ON THIS EARTH!