Steven Greer Interview Discussion

[14 Chakras]

Hey in fairness, my initial response was knee jerk reaction, I apologies for that Judy, and I had already edited it before the reply, read above...

I'm commenting on the thread because of the claim "all et's are benevolent" and I have seen some of Greer's earlier work. I think to jump to a conclusion like that after years of research you have to ignore the experiences of literally thousands of others out there, including the many message boards that have people sharing their abduction experiences, and even many experiences that have been shared in this forum.

[tone3jaguar]

To further explain why I do not think that telling people that all ET's are good is dangerous...

If you are dealing with a negative entity, where it is from is irrelevant. I never even once thought of the negative entities that I dealt with over the years in the format of where they are from until recently. I did not even try to figure out what dimension they where from until recently. And that was after the worst of the direct contact had deminished. Moreover, the only reason I started looking at these things is because of curiosity.

It does not matter if they are from the center of the Earth or Orion, the tactics for dealing with such entities is the same regardless. All I ever tried to figure out was how negative they where, and I did not even need to know that until after an attack was extinguished. Logistically I still can not think of a reason why knowing where they are from would help you in dealing with such a thing.

Here is an analogy, If you are in a war and there is some crazy mo fo running strait at you with a big knife, is knowing which town he is from going to help you deal with the situation? No, you just point and shoot. Now I have learned that shooting back is not the way to go now days. However, you see my point?

[judykott]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Hey in fairness, my initial response was knee jerk reaction, I apologies for that Judy, and I had already edited it before the reply, read above...

I'm commenting on the thread because of the claim "all et's are benevolent" and I have seen some of Greer's earlier work. I think to jump to a conclusion like that after years of research you have to ignore the experiences of literally thousands of others out there, including the many message boards that have people sharing their abduction experiences, and even many experiences that have been shared in this forum.

I have often had a case of knee jerk myself, was in and out the room working on a response so did not see the edit. I believe the whole Disclosure Project has many, many levels of agenda's. It also opened my eyes about a few things or possibilities as well, and many head shakes of disbelieve over some of the statements. Over the years I have learned it does not matter the personality of someone, or if I agree with what they say sometimes it can still be a valuable learning experience for those very reasons, a contrast makes an image clearer.


I just read Pushed for Freedoms post, very sensible summary for observation. I would love to hear of some of your experiences since implementing some of Greers's contact methods. I have heard from other's as well about the methods working but no real details, please share if you will. Thanks

[TraineeHuman]

tone3jaguar, you’re probably the member of this Forum whom I would consider most obviously not a misinfo agent and also least likely to be swayed in any way by any possible outbursts from such agents. So it would be great if you can elaborate further.

One thing that comes to mind for me is the Taoist idea of wu wei, or non-reaction. Judo is based on this. The idea is, even if a being is negative, you initially show them positivity. Then, if they’re negative, that’s the quickest way to get them to show their hand. At which point you might decide to respond to their negativity with a judo throw, causing them to crash under their own momentum. “Love your enemies,” and so on.

[14 Chakras]

Re. The reptilians created humans theory.

It might be worth considering that dark species do not create beautiful things, and life is beautiful if you are willing to look at it, it is ingenious how it all functions.

It would be a far more realistic assessment, imo, to consider reptilians may have altered the DNA to dumb it down, work out the spiritual centers and turn the greatness that the body was meant to be, into a short lived version focused on sex and war.

Now I'm not saying they succeeded, because we are about to raise up all of creation from within these beautiful bodies. Over time, we have evolved back the God centers where they are meant to be, and what's about to happen is the total raising and healing up of planet earth, by it's own inhabitants.

The aliens claiming they are our saviors either from ourselves or from other aliens, is the same lie from the beginning, that what we need is outside of us not inside.

Yes, it's all just an opinion until proven, but opinions are worth sharing and contemplating or this message board wouldn't be so active...

[Jnana]

Originally Posted by judykott

I just read Pushed for Freedoms post, very sensible summary for observation. I would love to hear of some of your experiences since implementing some of Greers's contact methods. I have heard from other's as well about the methods working but no real details, please share if you will. Thanks

I don't know about Pushed for Freedom, but I have to admit that I am reluctant to post such details on this forum. It is simply not possible to do justice to the impact of such an experience in words. I don't really want to take the time to explain how I am certain that what I am seeing is not an airplane, satellite, shooting star, or something else. If you are out there with me and we both see the same thing, it's easy. If I know you have seen such a thing yourself, then we share an understanding. But I have no interest in responding to "debunkers" of any sort. I've seen too many attacks here.

I don't want to convince anyone that my experiences are real. I do want to generate enough interest so that people will try this for themselves and get their OWN experiences. As far as how to find out how to go about it, you can check my posts in this thread: The Latest from Steven Greer. Really, it's even easier than that. Just go outside under the stars and make a heartfelt request.

As far as what happens, you connect telepathically with ET beings, ask them to make their presence known if it is safe for them to do so, and they respond. Initial responses are typically in the physical, flashes or streaks in the sky, sometimes far, sometimes close, sometimes groups of lights moving together. Once people become accustomed to this there are sometimes rather more dramatic encounters. It depends very much on your level of consciousness and spirituality. Greer has described such an encounter that occured recently in his World Puja Network talks. Also look here: www.altenergy2012.com. CSETI members can find my reports in a thread called "Central Indiana CSETI Working Group" on the CSETI discussion forum.

Greer will soon be publishing a new book about the CSETI experience. Although I have not seen it, I expect it will go into such encounters at great length. There is also a companion DVD. I'm not sure of the release date, but there is a workshop in October and attendees will be getting the book.

Since I attended CSETI training last fall, I have had numerous interactions of various types. It is very much a conversation, and a relationship of sorts is beginning to develop. The whole thing is absolutely mind blowing.

TPTB can shut down people who publish pictures or videos that show too much, or descriptions that tell too much, but they can't do a thing about the experience of your own eyes, heart, and mind. The vast majority of information to be found on the internet is garbage. The truth is out there. Remove the middle man and see for yourself.

[Christo888]

And T3J in the good Dr.s interview with B&K he explicitly describes electromagnetic technology that will create a demonic or negative energy or creature into a 3 Dimensional entity.

And he also re-quoted Kerry, in agreement with her I believe, "as above so below." So is it safe to assume that he would have to ponder eventually the point that Kerry was trying to make about negative ET's existence?

Once the definitions are all straightened out I suppose.

Kerry wasn't doing this for fear mongering, she was doing it to ensure discernment and diligence in questioning who or what we all pay attention too now and in the future for what potentially may be unfolding either for real or staged or not at all.

[Jnana]

Originally Posted by Christo888

And he also re-quoted Kerry, in agreement with her I believe, "as above so below." So is it safe to assume that he would have to ponder eventually the point that Kerry was trying to make about negative ET's existence?

Watch it again. He said "as below so above". His point was that we have to get our act together down here in order to be allowed to go up there.

I look at some of the discussion here and I have to wonder if people even saw the same video that I did.

[pushedforfreedom]

I must agree with Jnana. The experiences that come from making a clear and conscious connection with life off the surface of this planet is very unique and personal to each person.

If you're really interested in taking part in something like that, it's worth looking into the CSETI initiative. I was at a point where I wanted something real that I could test for myself and use those concrete experiences to evaluate my beliefs. CSETI has definitely helped me do that.

Jnana is right. Most of it is 100% pure positive intention towards the benefit of this planet, and the evolution of her residents. Always maintain a frame of mind to convey a sense of welcome and non-hostility working towards building a relationship. And always keep in mind to thank them for interacting with you, but only if it is safe and appropriate for them to do so. Knowing your location on Earth, and being able to zoom to your location will help. There are other tools that can assist you as well.

The CSETI training kit will teach you what you need to know to be effective in the field, if you're serious about making contact.

As for my own experiences... I've seen very close ETV (ET vehicles), orbs, and I've also experienced physical manifestations close to my location on the ground. There's not much to debunk about the experience since anybody with the proper intentions can reproduce their own experiences if they want.

[burgundia]

[tone3jaguar]

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Originally Posted by Christo888

And T3J in the good Dr.s interview with B&K he explicitly describes electromagnetic technology that will create a demonic or negative energy or creature into a 3 Dimensional entity.

He said that they create sinister aliens with it. The kind of "ET" I am talking about are the higher dimensional ones that work with the negative occult leaders in the world today. I have never had any type of an abduction experience like he was talking about. The experiences I had where totally different and happened during normal waking reality. The Milabs stuff can probably created a fake Demon, however I experienced these things while in a normal waking state.

They did not involve being taken or experimented on in any way. They did however involve some really scary **** like every one in a room suddenly glazing over and staring at me. That would be one of the less scary stories.