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Old 09-17-2008, 07:59 PM   #1
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no kidding,
i also have a ring,
that good old AC made for a lover, or girlfriend,
when i put it on, i like him more,
than, when i take it off

i am a collector, of some pretty interesting things

pretty soon, it will be time to get rid of everything

it's set in silver-so, i am sure, it is worth something !!!

everything is worth something, to someone

i've learned some pretty interesting things,

from having things, like this around ...

exchange is what it is really all about

brightest blessings
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so, i must get rolling ...
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:04 PM   #2
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no kidding,
i also have a ring,
that good old AC made for a lover, or girlfriend,
when i put it on, i like him more,
than, when i take it off

i am a collector, of some pretty interesting things

pretty soon, it will be time to get rid of everything

it's set in silver-so, i am sure, it is worth something !!!

everything is worth something, to someone

i've learned some pretty interesting things,

from having things, like this around ...

exchange is what it is really all about

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger
(who needs to paint her office ceiling)
so, i must get rolling ...
Scuse my ignorance eXchanger but who is AC?
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:25 PM   #3
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i was thinking the same thing who is AC ?
Is that genuine the mother shipton stuff - what is her story .. and has anyone translated this in context of todays events ?
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:33 PM   #4
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i was thinking the same thing who is AC ?
Is that genuine the mother shipton stuff - what is her story .. and has anyone translated this in context of todays events ?
Hi,
I have provided a link on the original thread, that will take you to the web page for her story!
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:53 PM   #5
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wikipedia doesn't believe in mother shipton:

Ursula Southeil (c. 1488 - 1561) (possibly Ursula Sonthiel), better known as Mother Shipton, was an English soothsayer and prophetess who is said to have made dozens of unusually accurate predictions, including the Great Plague of London, the Spanish Armada, and the Great Fire of London.

It is now generally accepted that the figure of Mother Shipton was largely a myth, and that the majority of her prophecies were composed by others in retrospect, after her death. Although her prophecies were apparently recorded in a series of diaries, the first publication of her work did not appear until 1641, eighty years after her death. The most notable book of her prophecies, edited by Richard Head, was published in 1684.

Head later admitted to having invented almost all Shipton's biographical details. He stated that she was born in Knaresborough, Yorkshire, in a cave now known as Mother Shipton's Cave, and was reputed to be hideously ugly - supposedly because she was fathered by the Devil. Head claimed that she married Toby Shipton, a local carpenter, near York in 1512 and is said to have told fortunes and made predictions throughout her life.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:58 PM   #6
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wikipedia doesn't believe in mother shipton:

Ursula Southeil (c. 1488 - 1561) (possibly Ursula Sonthiel), better known as Mother Shipton, was an English soothsayer and prophetess who is said to have made dozens of unusually accurate predictions, including the Great Plague of London, the Spanish Armada, and the Great Fire of London.

It is now generally accepted that the figure of Mother Shipton was largely a myth, and that the majority of her prophecies were composed by others in retrospect, after her death. Although her prophecies were apparently recorded in a series of diaries, the first publication of her work did not appear until 1641, eighty years after her death. The most notable book of her prophecies, edited by Richard Head, was published in 1684.

Head later admitted to having invented almost all Shipton's biographical details. He stated that she was born in Knaresborough, Yorkshire, in a cave now known as Mother Shipton's Cave, and was reputed to be hideously ugly - supposedly because she was fathered by the Devil. Head claimed that she married Toby Shipton, a local carpenter, near York in 1512 and is said to have told fortunes and made predictions throughout her life.
Yeah, I added above that they could have been written after her death but even so that's a long long time ago!
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:48 PM   #7
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think she means AC is aleister crowley
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:56 PM   #8
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think she means AC is aleister crowley
"If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the bible seriously, one must be already mad.”
I understand, thanks.
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:19 PM   #9
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wikipedia doesn't believe in mother shipton:

Ursula Southeil (c. 1488 - 1561) (possibly Ursula Sonthiel), better known as Mother Shipton, was an English soothsayer and prophetess who is said to have made dozens of unusually accurate predictions, including the Great Plague of London, the Spanish Armada, and the Great Fire of London.

It is now generally accepted that the figure of Mother Shipton was largely a myth, and that the majority of her prophecies were composed by others in retrospect, after her death. Although her prophecies were apparently recorded in a series of diaries, the first publication of her work did not appear until 1641, eighty years after her death. The most notable book of her prophecies, edited by Richard Head, was published in 1684.

Head later admitted to having invented almost all Shipton's biographical details. He stated that she was born in Knaresborough, Yorkshire, in a cave now known as Mother Shipton's Cave, and was reputed to be hideously ugly - supposedly because she was fathered by the Devil. Head claimed that she married Toby Shipton, a local carpenter, near York in 1512 and is said to have told fortunes and made predictions throughout her life.
The woman who came to tend to her 15 years old mother, Agatha, spoke of a smell of sulphur and a great crack of thunder as the child came into the world. The baby was born mishapen and huge. Some thought her father was the devil. Her mother gave her up at age two and supposedly went to live in a convent for the rest of her life.

Mother Shipton exhibited prophetic and psychic abilities from an early age. Many feared her and her powers mystical powers, which she always used to help people.

She wrote her prophecies about events to come in the form of poems.

She lived in the time of Henry VIII of England predicted his victory over France in 1513 --"Battle of the Spurs". She prophesized the Dissolution of the Monasteries. This led to the redistribution of the wealth and land held by the monasteries to the emerging middle class and the existing noble families.

At 24 she married Toby Shipton, a carpenter. They had no children. She eventually became known as Mother Shipton a woman helped many people.

Her home town was in Knaresborough England. Her power to see into the future made her well known not only in her home town but throughout England.

Her legend was passed on through oral traditions sometimes embellished a bit. Since 1641 there have been more than 50 different editions of books about her and her propheices.

Many of her visions came true within her own lifetime and in subsequent centuries.

Mother Shipton predicted important historical events many years ahead of their time - the Great Fire of London in 1666, the defeat of the Spanish Armada in 1588 - as well as the advent of modern technology. She even forecast her own death in 1561. Today her prophecies are still proving uncannily accurate.

She wrote her prophecies like poems.

She died in 1561.
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