quake 10/12/09, solutions

[charioteer]

Christo888, those are all great ideas, but how to implement them? Who would announce that all citizens should become empowered? Obama? Something on the news, or the history channel? What would the incentive be for them to tell the masses that they have been "victims" to the very media system they created? Would announcing something like this wake people up too fast?

Regarding the debt system, do you study economics? Are you well versed in knowing what is going on with it? How do we wind it down, how do we prepare people with the possibility of bringing on a gold standard? What laws would have to be created to bring our financial system under control, how could it be done? Are you well versed enough in politics?

For now suffice to say that they is the powers that be, the PTB. That will do for now.

What would you all do about the crisis between Palestine and Israel, the war in Iraq, the Taliban in Afghanistan? What about the vaccines. If their previous logic has been survival of the fittest, then part of the rationale for "keeping the population under control" has been just that, "keeping the population under control". Overpopulation is a problem. Is killing the solution? No.

How do we awaken others, and the masses in general? By what means do we create an atmosphere here on earth so that we can all, those who have been in power and those who have been under control, awaken in the new age? What about releasing the 911 truth? When should this be done? How and when should it be released so as not to create too much of a shock for the average person?

They want us to wake up, because it serves them, because awakening is better than pursuing worldly power. The old paradigm, power is real, is out, and the new paradigm, real is power, is in. They want us to wake up, we want the masses to wake up, and We want Us, Ourselves, to wake up. Do you want to?

charioteer

[Vidya Moksha]

I was going to keep quiet..but hey..
Charioteer. Wow. wow.

what would YOU do?

I suggest reading the fora would be a good start.

If you have 'power' why try and create an earthquake as opposed to doing some good?

Enjoy Avalon.

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by charioteer

Christo888, those are all great ideas, but how to implement them? It can start with media, script, play, screen, etc., writers. What to write into the media is another discussion later. Who would announce that all citizens should become empowered? Obama? Absolutely no Obama what so ever!!!!! He is not qualified to do such a thing. No president is. Leaders breed followers.... Something on the news, or the history channel? Every media format and outlet over time can convey the tools of empowerment... and it does not have to be presented in a shockingly way, it can be done very easily and without breaking down or totally interrupting the current system in a destructive way. Actually, you may be surprised by the response and find that transitions into an empowered system for society can be accomplished but the existing system has maxed out because there is no more room to stash the fraud!!! What would the incentive be for them to tell the masses that they have been "victims" to the very media system they created? Funny way to present this exact dilemma... the incentive is not for those in power and control... it is their dilemma not necessarily ours. Their dilemma... they loose the power and control they currently have, it will not be done any other way. The more anyone tries to hold on to something that was never their's to own the farther down the rabbit hole that structure will go while those who do not seek power and control will rise above that structure and swallow it hole... Black Hole that is! So Power and Control by the energy it beholds implodes within itself by itself... those in power and control and continue that frame of mind also stay within that implodeing energy and to let go of it is their escape. Would announcing something like this wake people up too fast? It would not be an announcement, it is a process and one that takes time to comprehend especially after all the generations of Rote versus Knowledge. It also entails removing the current 'victim' tabloid verbiage, that depresses the emotional body to create physical habits and addictions, from virtually every public 'stream.'

Regarding the debt system, do you study economics? No... economics are man made calculations for a man made power structure that keeps the top happy and the bottom a support for the top. Remove the top by raising the entire bottom support to its highest level possible to swallow up the class divisions. Are you well versed in knowing what is going on with it? No...I am not well versed because being so deep into it keeps one deep into it, the current economic system has always been flawed and always will be. It only remains so because of control structures that release pressure at many others expense. And then recycle the misery all over again using HOPE as a way to spring it back into growth. How do we wind it down, how do we prepare people with the possibility of bringing on a gold standard? Looks like a pretty good start right now... but no one said the gold standard is the way to go... that opens the door for just switching the power structure over to another group of those who already have their fair share of gold... so no no gold standard, it just remains a neat commodity. What laws would have to be created to bring our financial system under control, how could it be done? Are you well versed enough in politics? Actually, as long as the current system has somewhat of a framework fine for the meantime, but continuing to create laws with the current system will not work, no thank you. And actually creating laws is interfering with empowerment and personal responsibility... Politics and Laws will atrophy over time through the raising of as many groups awareness as possible, sorry for all those in power... go enjoy your life but without the aphrodisiac of control over others for personal value. Like a drug withdrawal i'm sure there will be just as much time needed to adjust to not controlling as the adjustment for being personally responsible and the practice it takes to learn self empowerment held within a balanced understanding of all considerations herein.

For now suffice to say that they is the powers that be, the PTB. That will do for now.

What would you all do about the crisis between Palestine and Israel, the war in Iraq, the Taliban in Afghanistan? What about the vaccines. If their previous logic has been survival of the fittest, then part of the rationale for "keeping the population under control" has been just that, "keeping the population under control". Overpopulation is a problem. Is killing the solution? No.

How do we awaken others, and the masses in general? By what means do we create an atmosphere here on earth so that we can all, those who have been in power and those who have been under control, awaken in the new age? What about releasing the 911 truth? When should this be done? How and when should it be released so as not to create too much of a shock for the average person?

They want us to wake up, because it serves them, because awakening is better than pursuing worldly power. The old paradigm, power is real, is out, and the new paradigm, real is power, is in. They want us to wake up, we want the masses to wake up, and We want Us, Ourselves, to wake up. Do you want to?

charioteer

Not that you were actually asking me to answer you in specifics but a few comments for discussion sake I couldn't pass up!!!

The bottom line is that the decision for waking up does not belong to tptw and it is not even their responsibility!!!!

The tools for waking up the planet are spread all over the place and no one group will ever have control or decision power over that ever again...

The current power structure does not have to be used nor do the people in power or authority have to be consulted... sorry it is not up to anyone in current authority as to what we will or can do. Any person awake will do on their own what they perceive is their part and no permission will ever be sought!!!!

Actually, no media outlet has to be involved, and those in power have no power!!! But anyone can participate in change the more the merrier, and the change does not include people who want power!!!

Besides the real change is not going to be discussed on a forum.

Can I buy you a cup of Joe?

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Christo888

Besides the real change is not going to be discussed on a forum

Confused - please elaborate.

A..

[Ammit]

What?, I believe we can make a real change with a forum, with this forum. The more that know, the more can be informed and the more informed is more souls saved. Has to work....

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Ammit

What?, I believe we can make a real change with a forum, with this forum. The more that know, the more can be informed and the more informed is more souls saved. Has to work....

Yes absolutely... I defined what I meant a little better in my last post.

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Confused - please elaborate.

A..

The change we have in our heart isn’t written down, and if the change we knew in our heart were written down then that could be planned against by tptw in order to divert or counter. Tptw do not need our assistance to figure out what to do with a system they built to control. And if tptw wanted to help make a change then they can read and discover exactly the same stuff we all did. The difference is, what information is needed by an individual to turn on the light bulb within themselves to see what has been done, and what needs to be undone.

As long as ‘they’ are busy … (distracted ) holding onto the power they think they have then real change can happen behind the scenes within each ‘fragment of the whole’ according to the vibration that energizes/raises the awareness of each. Any fragment of the whole that raise awareness fuels the heightened awareness availability to any other fragment of the whole. There is no one higher gifted fragment than another as all have the same whole potential embedded within, as each of us fragments have different aspects to clean up and refresh through the infinite experience and perception field we grew up within.

How does one discuss on a forum that which cannot be explained once awareness turns on within each in there own timing which then adds back into the whole raising it up a little more. How we got in this mess was through the removal of empowerment and awareness replaced with victimhood by presenting a perceived higher power outside of ourselves to rely on and worship to gain favor with.
Unwinding the labyrinth, polishing the ‘diamond prism’ (being) to refract the brilliance, is going to be a process…

Hence, "It isn't about using discernment. It is about using extreme discernment," with a strategy.

Actions speak louder than words… Focused intention for the highest good of all (which may not have words for expression) within the principle of Harmony and Balance is an action and creates change. Followed by the Principle of Allowance to work within the current circumstances to bring about the most advantageous position for the betterment of us all however that may transpire… real Faith is in knowing through an enlightened realization of self-awareness of us all will manifest in TIME.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Christo888

The change we have in our heart isn’t written down, and if the change we knew in our heart were written down then that could be planned against by tptw in order to divert or counter.

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Wow thanks for this complete answer.

Awesome.

A..