Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes"

[BROOK]

No Bushy...I respectfully disagree..this picture is evil

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...1&postcount=47

and it is offensive...to step away from it, and walk around it gives it power.
It should have the light shown on it..then it will have no more power

[Lionhawk]

I know how you feel BushyCat. I once felt the same way. But one day I did take the blinders off and found that I had let my awareness field to be govern by my experiences instead of my soul. Hopefully you will discover this someday. Maybe your friend who doesn't know his power can teach you. Good luck with jumping out of the way in the meantime.

Extra Blessings to you.

[14 Chakras]

Nobodies perfect!

Wow. Been to bed for the night and come back to find this thread has just exploded. Great thread. One of the most interesting reads for some time.

Must drop off az couple of messages/
Pablo. Don't worry mate we are all in the same boat. As we walk from the stern to the bow the view changes and we develope an awareness of the concious instant. You have many talents, that is sure, now is the time to find the right channel for them. This will help you in every aspect of what to do and when to do it. There is nothing to forgive in you, like there is nothing to forgive in those who brought the threads attention to the pictures. Words written or spoken carry as much wieght.

Mudra,

I think someone said it already. But brush up on what means what on the playing field presented before us. Also in finding your inner love, do not loose sight of the other emotions that make up your whole. Love

SG1965 The wooley jumpers thing. LOL LOL man like the imagery. May be I was just repeating what was alread said.

I saw someone said something about rules and regulations??? Not sure who but that doesn't matter. Like my name sake I don't agree with any rules or regulations. They have no part to play in conscious conversations or life in that realm. The only time they have relavence is in the dimension of matter. Structure etc. The only thing that I would like to see less of, and this way weed out the fishes,, is the prediction front. I have a problem with that aspect. How can anyone believe that their reality is the devining one. You may believe that things will manifest for oneself. But not for a global aspect. There are alot of freewill people who will disagree with the predictions. I will never make one, not even that the sun will shine tomorrow.

Channel info must not be placed upon another as it is asking the other person to follow like a sheep. Only when one asks for infomation directly can aniother person through channeling give their point of view. This as I said earlier is one view and never can be considered the be all and end all.

What a GEREAT thread. Boy its been a long time coming. But where are the others from sometime ago, Astralwalker, Jonas, etc. Come people I know you look in from time to time. Your love of the conciousness is needed to help each other.

I admit this is the only post that I get really concerned with because the rest of the cat daog GFL and others just seem people popping one off??????

Sorry another thing, whilst I am on a role. The Ghandi thing. This is a great lesson of how defeat an oppressing will. Such as the Wills that be. They don't have real power, so I think we should be honest with ourselves and address that idea that it is the Wills That BE rather than the Powers that BE.

I think it was Sitting Bull who replied to the question "Who are you?" He replied I am. When asked his Name he said They call me Sitting Bull. Not that his name was sitting bull. The difference is slight but makes all the difference.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by BROOK

No Bushy...I respectfully disagree..this picture is evil

and it is offensive...to step away from it, and walk around it gives it power.
It should have the light shown on it..then it will have no more power

(moderator hat off)

Brook,

You have claimed this many times in this thread, but it leaves me wanting for information to support the claim.

You appear to have done more than anyone including P4BLO to draw attention to the picture and give it "power", and every time anyone suggested not to do that you come back with - that it is "demonic" and has a "spell" on it.

I note that you have not explained in any significant or meaningful way what is "demonic" about that picture or what the "spell" was that was on it. Even if there was, I doubt that P4BLO knew about it. This site would be well served by such an explanation - that would be more on topic than most of the rest of this thread put together.

Just saying a picture is demonic does not make it so. It seems to me that this is where the word "demonizing" comes from.

A..

[Malletzky]

If you allow me to be a bit philosophical here, in no mean is this to offend anyone:

My first (subjective) premise: we’re all of the same descent. But nevertheless, we should be aware that as individuals, we’re very different. This is the way it’s meant to be.

My second (subjective) premise: there’s only one truth, and we’re all here in order to learn how to find this universal truth.

My third (subjective) premise: I am from the light, but I know there is darkness too.

Now: the individual human behaviour (in common, and please don’t forget that, no matter what we really are, we’re still “caught” in this what we call human body, this perfect constructed vessel with many mind limitations) on different issues in our everyday lives is exactly what has been mirrored here on this forum.

Our own individual energies, which we radiate around us, interfere all the time, no matter if we like it or not. And we’ve been exposed to these energies, again like it or not

Our written words reflect these energies and make them “visible” for the other. Some will feel these energies, some will not. But one should be considered: we’re all on a different level of understanding, on a different level of being able to feel these “other” energies. That’s all. That’s why we react different, that’s why we act different.

Now, what we see here on this forum, not only on this thread, are many truths...really many truths. And about the truth, we just shouldn’t underestimate the individual abilities of all other to handle their own truth.

What matter is the individual emotional attitude to accept that there are many other truths exposed here. This can be learned, but mustn’t. It can be learned by acting from within and searching from within. I don’t claim to have accomplished this, but I’m for certain trying to follow this way.

I said on a different thread (as some other said here on this thread too), that this forum has its own natural rules...very natural rules. And this brings me back on the beginning of this post: our energies interfere, it’s US who should be able to handle the “other” truths and accept it.

If we’re not able to vibrate that high (or that low) as the common vibration of this forum, we will leave...and this could happen to any of us, anytime!

So yes, we could see many individuals coming here...and going away...on their own...as their emotional attitude wouldn't allow them to handle OUR truth too...

My last premise: I will let you (you in common, no one particular) do whatever action you take, as long as I can feel your “positive” vibrations [be it from the “light side” or from the “dark side”...(oh how I struggle with this duality)].

But if I feel that you tend to harm me or other with your energies, I will show you my light. That’s all. This doesn’t mean that I will harm you anyway, as I can’t do this, I don’t even know how to...But you will definately notice that I have protected my self from the interference with your energies...latest then, when our paths disperse...

Sorry for the long and really philosophical post .

with and respect
malletzky

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Malletzky

Sorry for the long and really philosophical post

Don't be. It was one of the most intelligent and resounding posts I have read on this forum in ages.

Thanks

A..

[Ross H]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Don't be. It was one of the most intelligent and resounding posts I have read on this forum in ages.

Thanks

A..

Yes indeed, Thankyou.

Peace always

[14 Chakras]

Just came across this:





We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are ~ Anaïs Nin

[rhythm]

hello my loverly

seems like

some are

beliving in

hell devils and demons....

to me

there is only energy

dark and light ..

where fear has enterd either of these

madness persues you till you

see that its come from lies and conditioning

and the truth is

nothing can or will ever hurt you ...

apart from youself buying in to

such dilliusion ....

and concepts..

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by rhythm

hello my loverly

seems like

some are

beliving in

hell devils and demons....

to me

there is only energy

dark and light ..

where fear has enterd either of these

madness persues you till you

see that its come from lies and conditioning

and the truth is

nothing can or will ever hurt you ...

apart from youself buying in to

such dilliusion ....

and concepts..

Had you actually read this thread..you would know that the picture was given no power..no fear here! Who do you believe has "bought into" such?

Not I....

Only indignation from being presented such darkness.

the truth is nothing can or will ever hurt you ...

Tell that to the the families and the children who are missing every year...

[Initiate]

This kind of magic is the kind that uses our own conciousness. A lot like the Aboriginal concept of "Pointing the Bone". If we don't buy into it then it can't hurt us. It was purely artistic and that is that. It is the people that dwell in the dark that kidnap kids for rituals etc. not the art itself. Art is in the eye of the beholder and subjective.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Initiate

This kind of magic is the kind that uses our own conciousness. A lot like the Aboriginal concept of "Pointing the Bone". If we don't buy into it then it can't hurt us. It was purely artistic and that is that. It is the people that dwell in the dark that kidnap kids for rituals etc. not the art itself. Art is in the eye of the beholder and subjective.

I cannot speak for anybody but myself...but the above comment about missing children...has nothing to do with art...it has to do with the statement in it's full meaning...

some are

beliving in

hell devils and demons....

to me

there is only energy

dark and light ..

where fear has enterd either of these

madness persues you till you

see that its come from lies and conditioning

and the truth is

nothing can or will ever hurt you ...

apart from youself buying in to

such dilliusion ....

This is a blanket statement....and is taken in full context. Buying into delusion?.....it is not a delusion what is happening ...these children are missing...there are no lies and conditioning to that about the darkness of it. It exists..and it is dark..and it is not created by fear and delusion.

[FIIISH]

Brook,

One thing I am curious about.

If references to the occult bother you, why do you have a
crystal ball as your avatar?

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by FIIISH

Brook,

One thing I am curious about.

If references to the occult bother you, why do you have a
crystal ball as your avatar?

Now that is interesting isn't it?
Maybe I was burned at the stake in a past life

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Now that is interesting isn't it?
Maybe I was burned at the stake in a past life

A crystal ball was used in the past for telling the future, not sure if its currently being used.

My avatar is a red rose and a cocktail glass......this does not mean that i am an alcholic or that I even drink any acholol. Its just a pretty pic, thats all.

Brooks avatar is also pretty & eye catching. Besides I believe the occult concerns being expressed here are not at all about divining, but rather a darker purpose.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

A crystal ball was used in the past for telling the future, not sure if its currently being used.

My avatar is a red rose and a cocktail glass......this does not mean that i am an alcholic or that I even drink any acholol. Its just a pretty pic, thats all.

Brooks avatar is also pretty & eye catching. Besides I believe the occult concerns being expressed here are not at all about divining, but rather a darker purpose.

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

My avatar is a red rose and a cocktail glass......this does not mean that i am an alcholic or that I even drink any acholol. Its just a pretty pic, thats all.

.

darn, and here I thought you were a blood drinking Rossicrucionist !!!

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Zeddo

darn, and here I thought you were a blood drinking Rossicrucionist !!!

darn....my secret is out

[14 Chakras]

If we're gonna ban pictures from the forum, I vote we ban the head bashing icon in the 'smileys'... ouch... bashing head against wall not good for sane people to do...

Laughing Buddha styles better.

[Lionhawk]

I wasn't mixing apples and oranges here Initiate. So relax. I was commenting on that other posting that Brook brought up. You know the delusional one where these things don't exist. But if you think for a minute and maybe understand that what you picked up intuitively wasn't meant for you so you didn't see anything to it. It didn't have your name on it so your intuition wouldn't pick up on the energy signatures applied to it. That would apply across the board as others wouldn't pick up on those signatures either. If it had been addressed to you, you would have known it immediately. Hope that explains it better as to how these things work. It is about energy and how that energy is being directed whether for good or bad. Also whether you have the ability to read such energies. In which case you found it harmless, but for others that it was directed to, was another story. Hope that clears that up. In no way was I challenging you on your own intuition and if something like this came up between you and I, I am sure we would handle this between us in a much better fashion that was actually constructive. Does that make better sense now?

My main reference was what was said before you posted. And I still stand where I stand with that!

Putting another log on the fire.........This is getting very tiresome.
I also take responsibility for creating this confusion.

Peace!

[Unified Serenity]

I think people put too much into the word "magick". I have experience in many areas of energetics and have known many very adept at the arcane arts. The movie "The serpent and the rainbow" is pretty good about explaining the power of some to affect others who do not believe. It is based on one man's account of his experiences when he ran afoul of a Voodoo priest.

Magick is simply intention put into action via energy. To hate someone with a focused energy sends a poisonous barb their way, and if they are not shielded can cause many problems. There are entities who look for open doors and opportunities to harass and possess (not the usual outcome) a soul for the energetic benefits that entity is seeking. People are especially vulnerable when they feel the safest like behind a computer screen or watching tv and hypnotized by it's effects on their brains. They love to feel that adrenaline rush, but what else loves that rush? Or, sexual energy displayed in entertainment that opens doors. Or, rage energy people feed into while getting into a movie that also opens doors.

When someone does not like you or wishes you ill, you can often feel that intention. To then have that person purposefully seek to offend you via a very negative image for that split second there could be a crack of emotion that opens the door for a barb of ill intent. It is very much like the "evil eye" warded against by many who remember the old ways. There was a very good reason for those wards and the community looked very badly upon anyone who employed those tactics to cause harm.

Magick, energetics, prayer is all about controlling ones self and their desires. Yes, if you buy into some aspect you are vulnerable to it, but I can assure you that many a believer was made who at one time did not believe in the power of energetics for both good or ill. If you are not spiritually trained you are very much a sheep and open to whatever intentions are out there.

I find it rather interesting that so many here seem to buy into the 3d aspect of this world and are not tuned into the energy signatures which are so prevalent and negative these days. Acting like nothing can harm you if you don't buy into it or see it a certain way is not wise. It makes me think of a blind and deaf person who, since they cannot see the traffic in the street or hear it act as though they can walk wherever they want and would think anyone were a fool who said you need to be aware of the cars going down the street. "Oh, I don't see those cars going by at 40 mph / kph so I can just walk across the street." You would not do that, and yet this whole thread is replete with such examples regarding ill intent (magick, prayer,energy) behind a hideous image sent to a member whom the sender has been at odds with on various places within the forum. Intention is everything for the one behind it, and being aware of it is wise.


Unified Serenity

[Lionhawk]

So I guess that makes me a liar. Let me put it another way. I am very glad that those who have their blinders on never see such things or experience such things. They are often to horrific for the soul to comprehend. Let alone deal with something of that nature after wards. I find it insulting and delusional that people use their "beliefs" to describe what they haven't experienced onto others with their version of love and light. On the other hand, like I said I am glad you have your blinders on because to experience such things is terrifying to any would be experiencer. I was raised in a haunted house in Connecticut that was demonically influenced. We moved there when I was four years old. Now tell me that I imagined that and my whole family also imagined that. Tell me about how your version of love and light based in belief instead of knowledge and experience explains demons coming up from the floor and trying to rape a woman who lived there. Explain to me how my room would turn so damn cold in minutes with a wood burning stove going full blast right next to it with the door opened. Explain to me how objects would move on their own in the house and on the property. Do that for 14 years and then have someone come up to you and give you their version of how these things are only a delusional perception. I'm telling ya. Feel very blessed that you don't have any experience in these matters. For me it was my motivation to find God and to learn what the real version of what love and light is all about. His version. Not something read out of a book. Also to free the souls that were trapped there by these demonic influences. That's real light and love in ACTION! They were kids for God sake. Some of them were raped and all of them murdered and ended up trapped. It amazes me that there are people here in this kind of forum that aren't even aware that these things actually occur. Again feel very blessed and at the same time please don't make me out to be the idiot here. My blinders are off. I know what happened and I could write a book just on that, let alone all this other stuff that I've witnessed out here. I'm sorry folks but that version doesn't cut it in this world. It's superficial. To say something like that and then sign off on it with light and love is just ___________! I'm just saying a spade is a spade. How would you feel if someone implied that your life was a lie? The only resort I have is to just consider the source and understand that there is a serious awareness issue there. That is the only compassionate thing I can do.

[Initiate]

Lionhawk, There is a very real difference between this artwork and your real world experiences. I am not reading these perceptions out of a book. They are comming from within. So perhaps my perceptions are a lie? No one every said your real world perceptions were a lie. As you say, a spade is a spade. Thankyou for sharing.