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Old 12-02-2009, 09:52 PM   #1
Halvor
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Default Re: Support for Victims of MKULTRA Projects

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You are very brave to have done that yourself. Many see their death in this lifetime- did you see that?
No, from the immediate impression my experience was botched. I had no psychedelic experience and remained conscious. For five hours I was immobile, only able to roll over to vomit in a bucket, which I did about every ten mintes for that entire time period. I had asked a friend to sit with me, but he had taken some recreational drugs and soon fell asleep. No help there.

What I think happened reflecting on the experience since was that every time an issue was about to surface I instead of drifting into a vision became nauseous and thus retained consciousness. Why this happened I don't know but it could be a protective device due to the nature or context of my memories. It could also be that the alkaloids had gone bad due to too long storage time, because I read that later about the batch from which my bark powder had originated.

I think the excerpt you provided was highly informative. It was much there I wasn't aware of.
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:53 PM   #2
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No, from the immediate impression my experience was botched. I had no psychedelic experience and remained conscious. For five hours I was immobile, only able to roll over to vomit in a bucket, which I did about every ten mintes for that entire time period. I had asked a friend to sit with me, but he had taken some recreational drugs and soon fell asleep. No help there.
I do not have experience with iboga but have some experience with South American plant medicines. I spent some time in Peru apprenticing with an ayauascero. I do not recommend administering these medicines to yourself without expert supervision or protection. This includes more common ethneogens like psilocybin mushrooms.

That said I have taken many unnecessary risks myself in the past and if you find it too difficult to find assistance and feel compelled to experiment, make sure you observe Tim Leary's suggestion for "set and setting" which refers to finding a safe location and creating a peaceful and expansive state of mind.

Many of these medicines bring on states of transitional awareness that can be vulnerable so protection is key. That being said, I am a proponent of the benefits. Also if you want to take a safer route, I highly recommend meditation or yoga, particularly kundalini yoga which I believe may be one the fastest and most powerful tools for transformation and peace of mind.
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