Norway...possible portal? UFO?

[Dantheman62]

My money is still on a rocket/missile!

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

My money is still on a rocket/missile!

You better go find a money tree like mine...



Bwahahaha

[dagon]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

My money is still on a rocket/missile!

dan did you move to calif. you were in Georgia .???

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by dagon

dan did you move to calif. you were in Georgia .???

Hey Dagon, yep! I'm a California boy now. Riverside to be exact.

[micjer]

Update December 10, 2009: After the Russian government's denial on December 9, 2009, that it had not conducted any missile tests that could explain the white and blue light spirals over northern Norway, today on December 10, 2009, the U.K.'s BBC is reporting “a statement from Moscow later confirmed that a missile launch from a Russian submarine in the region had failed.” Adding to the mystery is Norway's concern that its government had no prior communication from Russia that any such missile tests were scheduled near northern Norway.

Another speculation has been microwave tests of the ionosphere from Tromso, Norway, impacting the atmosphere in an unexpected way. But, ionospheric physicists in Gakona, Alaska; Arecibo, Puerto Rico; Tromso, Norway; and other facilities have been bouncing microwaves off the ionosphere for at least a decade of research. Any oscillation that humans produce in the ionosphere is immediately obliterated as soon as sun rays shine on any part of the ionosphere. However, spiraling lights phenomenon as seen and photographed over northern Norway yesterday has not been reported at ionospheric research sites.


http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

[Thunderbird]

oh come ON!

its a computer generated HOLOGRAM!!!

Project Blue Beam.

[Mystique]

I just have a quick question. I am at work and haven't had time to catch up on this thread that has grown by leaps and bounds, so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but has anyone heard about a pyramid in the sky over Russia? I'll catch this thread later when I'm home. Mystique

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Mystique

I just have a quick question. I am at work and haven't had time to catch up on this thread that has grown by leaps and bounds, so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but has anyone heard about a pyramid in the sky over Russia? I'll catch this thread later when I'm home. Mystique

Yep...it's a few posts back

[micjer]

Sorry I just don't buy the missile theory. This pic shows how precise the spiral is. Laser (or bluebeam) from ground perhaps. Not missle though sorry!

[Wormhole]

Curious, Brook. When I was a kid we used to experiment with building rockets. This pattern is familiar when you stand directly below the rocket you see the H20 (white spiral pattern) steaming off and the blue stream is the exhaust from the fuel. Though compelling, I have to agree that it is a rocket test gone bad...

However, if the pattern lands on a lay line of 19.47 degrees (which it does not), I will stand humbly corrected! Which brings me to another subject mentioned:

I agree that there is a natural earth pattern to stargates opening on the planet, though I am not resonating with the idea that this pattern has failed, tampered with yes, replicated yes, but failed no. Galactic Mother Nature is too powerful a force. Her Merkaba hasn't gone anywhere. We wouldn't be able to be here if that was true. We wouldn't have any atmosphere if that were the case, just for starters.

The energy field of Gaia is the glue to keeping our molecules dancing as they are. This is the cause of the golden mean, sacred geometry, and all life on the planet which follows this pattern. A perfect example is the beautiful spiral that the failed rocket attempt made. It was merely following the predetermined pattern of life here on the planet. This is physics. This is why your toilet flushes and the water spins one direction on this side of the equator and the other direction on the other side of the equator. Same flush, same toilet, differing directions. Or rather the same direction, just a different perspective.

At least this is my opinion. I have no doubt that gates are opening on this planet and have been and will for a long time depending on the POSITION OF THE GALACTIC ALIGNMENTS TO GAIA'S OWN MERKABA. Yes, you too can do this at home by using patterns. This is why pentagrams are used in magic. But I wouldn't suggest that experiment without knowing who you are letting in. And you wouldn't know until it was too late.

What we need to pay attention to is who and why. I wouldn't take anything that the ET's say as truth, not until they are willing to be our equals. Remember, technology does not make one spiritually superior. Neither does dogma, wealth, or industry. We are a part of God. Period. That is our commonality.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

[Phtha]

It is proven a missile, it is over, people are only playing with the hope that it was more.

The fact that someone can simulate it in 3d using a simple particle cloud, and made it look almost exact despite the short amount of time it took him to make the video.... If he were to spend more time he could have made it look exactly like it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4

And here is ship captain language for a warning of rocket tests in the area before hand! The area is a WELL KNOWN missile testing spot.

ZCZC FA80
071400 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 95
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1. ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 10 DEC TO 0800 11 DEC
0900 TO 1700 11 DEC 2100 11 DEC TO 0600 12 DEC
1000 TO 1700 12 DEC 2200 12 DEC TO 1000 13 DEC
1100 TO 1700 13 DEC 0100 TO 1400 14 DEC
0100 TO 0700 AND 1600 TO 2200 15 DEC
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA 65-12.6N 036-37.0E
65-37.2N 036-26.0E 66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
2. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 152300 DEC=
NNNN


ZCZC FA79
031230 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC
09 DEC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA
65-12.6N 036-37.0E 65-37.2N 036-26.0E
66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
http://forum.flot.su/showthread.php?p=102072

This is also (I would assume) how the photographer had his camera all ready to go on its tripod, with the iso (shutter speed) already set. He knew a launch was coming so he was prepared, he was there purposely to take a picture of the launch, I'm sure he never expected to get such a show though.

It's a missile... end of story.

[Dantheman62]

[Kra]

Originally Posted by Phtha

It is proven a missile, it is over, people are only playing with the hope that it was more.

The fact that someone can simulate it in 3d using a simple particle cloud, and made it look almost exact despite the short amount of time it took him to make the video.... If he were to spend more time he could have made it look exactly like it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4

And here is ship captain language for a warning of rocket tests in the area before hand! The area is a WELL KNOWN missile testing spot.

ZCZC FA80
071400 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 95
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1. ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 10 DEC TO 0800 11 DEC
0900 TO 1700 11 DEC 2100 11 DEC TO 0600 12 DEC
1000 TO 1700 12 DEC 2200 12 DEC TO 1000 13 DEC
1100 TO 1700 13 DEC 0100 TO 1400 14 DEC
0100 TO 0700 AND 1600 TO 2200 15 DEC
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA 65-12.6N 036-37.0E
65-37.2N 036-26.0E 66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
2. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 152300 DEC=
NNNN


ZCZC FA79
031230 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC
09 DEC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA
65-12.6N 036-37.0E 65-37.2N 036-26.0E
66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
http://forum.flot.su/showthread.php?p=102072

This is also (I would assume) how the photographer had his camera all ready to go on its tripod, with the iso (shutter speed) already set. He knew a launch was coming so he was prepared, he was there purposely to take a picture of the launch, I'm sure he never expected to get such a show though.

It's a missile... end of story.

Phtha why are you insisting so much with this? Why are you trying to impose others your truth? Can't you accept that others do not agree with this explanation and they feel that there is more to this (even if this were to be a rocket)? Why do you think that your truth is everybody's truth? We are here to share thoughts... to share research results... among other things.

[Phtha]

Because a tree is a tree! And if someone told me that a tree is a 4 headed fish I would argue and say "no sir, that is clearly a tree". This example is much more clear cut but its the same thing.
you can choose to believe what you want and that is fine with me, but I know 110% what this was.
This is a missile.
Governments really do test missiles!

I can sympothize with everyone who does not believe this is a missile though, if I did not have the experience with cameras and the like I could see how hard it would be to believe that a missile could produce such a spectacular effect.

Originally Posted by Kra

Phtha why are you insisting so much with this? Why are you trying to impose others your truth? Can't you accept that others do not agree with this explanation and they feel that there is more to this (even if this were to be a rocket)? Why do you think that your truth is everybody's truth? We are here to share thoughts... to share research results... among other things.

[Initiate]

Ok, so if this is an out of control rocket. All the rockets that are being tested must have the same flaw. They got to fix that.

The same thing happened in China.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Initiate

Ok, so if this is an out of control rocket. All the rockets that are being tested must have the same flaw. They got to fix that.

The same thing happened in China.

Now that looks like a portal...not a rocket. And the one in the night sky...amazing!

[lightwalker]

Whatever this is, it is BEAUTIFUL and I wouldn't mind having this experience in my neck of the woods.

In the past year some info that came thru a channel mentioned that we may be having some "unprecedented events" coming our way (positive btw) and I'd like to think that this is just one of them. It came to me in my mulling over what an "unprecedented event" would consist of that many people could experience and my thought was that it would come from the sky, last long enough for a large number of people to experience it and from there would be plastered on the web. Well, I am amazed at my wisdom !

I hope that there will be music with the next "showing"....now that would be awesome wouldn't it ?

lightwalker

[Kra]

Originally Posted by Phtha

Because a tree is a tree! And if someone told me that a tree is a 4 headed fish I would argue and say "no sir, that is clearly a tree". This example is much more clear cut but its the same thing.
you can choose to believe what you want and that is fine with me, but I know 110% what this was.
This is a missile.
Governments really do test missiles!

I can sympothize with everyone who does not believe this is a missile though, if I did not have the experience with cameras and the like I could see how hard it would be to believe that a missile could produce such a spectacular effect.

Yes... but can you prove us that it was a missile? All you have is what you saw and what they said and showed you (3D simulation) and warnings on paper. I can't prove you that it was not a missile... not with hard evidence at least. You know 110% that this was a missile, ok that's your truth... but it's not up to you to decide if that's everybody's truth or not... the global truth if you want. If people who think it's something else going on are wrong about this... then it's their "problem" and it's up to them to investigate and get this conclussion in the final. I'm just saying i'm not attacking you. You can only come with proves and solid arguments... telling your opinion and your feelings on this... without trying to impose them "your" truth / reality.

[Initiate]

anyone remember "Swamp Gas"?

[micjer]

I agree with you Kra. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I have just stated my opinions,

I look and read others opinions. People can believe whatever they want.

If this was a court of law, I would have to say that there was reasonable doubt that this was a missile. End of story.


It is a frightening thought to be closed minded to not explore other explanations.

[Phtha]

Hey I understand your point 100% Kra.
However there are real truths that exist, the actual events that really took place... and then people can choose whatever they want to believe from there. Logic alone proves this is a missile if you have the right knowledge before hand to see it. Nothing to do with smarts its just experience. I knew it was a missile as soon as I thought about shutter speeds.

I'm not saying I think this was a missile I'm saying it was a missile. That is the truth of what it was, and I can't change that.

Originally Posted by Kra

Yes... but can you prove us that it was a missile? All you have is what you saw and what they said and showed you (3D simulation) and warnings on paper. I can't prove you that it was not a missile... not with hard evidence at least. You know 110% that this was a missile, ok that's your truth... but it's not up to you to decide if that's everybody's truth or not... the global truth if you want. If people who think it's something else going on are wrong about this... then it's their "problem" and it's up to them to investigate and get this conclussion in the final. I'm just saying i'm not attacking you. You can only come with proves and solid arguments... telling your opinion and your feelings on this... without trying to impose them "your" truth / reality.

[MadSheeple]

Originally Posted by Phtha

Because a tree is a tree! And if someone told me that a tree is a 4 headed fish I would argue and say "no sir, that is clearly a tree". This example is much more clear cut but its the same thing.
you can choose to believe what you want and that is fine with me, but I know 110% what this was.
This is a missile.
Governments really do test missiles!

I can sympothize with everyone who does not believe this is a missile though, if I did not have the experience with cameras and the like I could see how hard it would be to believe that a missile could produce such a spectacular effect.

The evidence you speak of is easily debunked, but it is not important, we know what you believe, but please refrain from imposing you beliefs on others. Negativity is not the answer, and repeating your beliefs over and over without putting new information on the table serves no purpose but to instill chaos. I know that just by replying I am feeding the fire, but lets try and keep this discussion open but still rely on good explanations. I believe that someone would have to be gulible to believe such a flawed explanation, but that is just my beliefs and I don`t mind if you don`t share them.

I think it would be wise to steer away from missile talk until we have more/better evidence of that theory. Also let`s stay open minded, keep this positive and personal attack-free so we can make some progress investigating this.

-Peace-

[Swanny]

Trouble is so many people are desperate for something to happen.
If a few more pop up then I'll change my mind but at the moment I'm going for a out of control missile

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Trouble is so many people are desperate for something to happen.
If a few more pop up then I'll change my mind but at the moment I'm going for a out of control missile

I thought you were going for project Bluebeam? What changed your mind? The media?

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I thought you were going for project Bluebeam? What changed your mind? The media?

Phtha changed it
Missile makes much more sense than anything else