Full Disclosure...Soon!

[King Lear]

C'mon guys!
A controlled intentional "disclosure" will never happen!
Never ever!

Stop dreamin' and trust no dates, that's all BS.



Perhaps some day the truth will come out,
but never disclosed! Especially not by the PTB!

[viking]

Originally Posted by King Lear

C'mon guys!
A controlled intentional "disclosure" will never happen!
Never ever!

Stop dreamin' and trust no dates, that's all BS.



Perhaps some day the truth will come out,
but never disclosed! Especially not by the PTB!

Hey King Lear

Have faith it will happen...it's just a question of when...simple as that...

Mankind cannot carry on thinking within this loop...our conciousness has to expand further to the heavens...and we will get there sooner or later...

Time is all that holds us back...

viking

[trainedobserver]

>... will Obama do the right thing?... or will the Et's disclose themselves...?

The problems associated with governments saying "we have known of an alien presence here on Earth" are so huge it just seems unimaginable that they will ever admit to it until it becomes literally impossible and stupid not to do so. That will require that the ETs (or whatever) to "present themselves" to the world in some irrefutable manner like a large protracted display of some kind. UFOs in the skies of every major city for a week or two followed by a landing and a world-wide broadcast on radio, TV, and YouTube (ha) would just about do it. However, given the secretive and deceptive history of the phenomena itself it would seem that they are not interested in "disclosing" themselves or their operations to us and therefore would be no more inclined to do so than any earth government would.

Some problems with governmental disclosure.
1. Lack of motivation.
2. Liability for past actions to maintain the secrecy. (HUGE problem)
3. Public outcry and backlash against elected officials. (Nobody wants to loose their job)
4. Military disadvantage.
5. Societal upheaval.

Some ET disclosure problems.
1. Lack of motivation.
2. Historical use of secrecy displays some great need for it.
3. Public outcry and backlash against them for abductions, shoot downs, meddling, and so forth.
4. Human propensity for violence based on ideological, superstitious, and emotional reasons.

Given the many problems associated with it, I suspect that the world-wide realization and public acceptance of an alien presence on the planet Earth will be instigated in some manner that we have yet to have imagined.

[viking]

Just found this and link to the site...for those interested in Disclosure...

A few words from Steve Basset regarding UFO disclosure and related issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn_Wrr6YEmg


329 days since President Obama's inauguration without Disclosure!!
http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/


http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...cement-updates

viking

[arcora]

why would they suddenly decide to tell you the truth?

if they said anything, why would you believe them?

there are 100's of threads on this forum alone about gov cover ups and conspiracy's...do you actually think they're going to suddenly say 'ok guys...we lied....'

nope

and if they do, it'll be another lie

[viking]

Hi Arcora

Your right they can't just own up after all these years... It's a difficult one, and I really don't know how it will come about...but it will eventually...

They can't keep us in the dark indefinately!! Hopefully sooner rather than later...

viking

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by arcora

why would they suddenly decide to tell you the truth?

if they said anything, why would you believe them?

there are 100's of threads on this forum alone about gov cover ups and conspiracy's...do you actually think they're going to suddenly say 'ok guys...we lied....'

nope

and if they do, it'll be another lie

I agree.
The only way I will believe that aliens are here is if I see them with my own eyes and even then I won't be 100% sure.

[viking]

Hey Swanny Tangible will only become if we envisage it!!

Found this in my inbox...
Lightworkers'--Serious "Call to Action"

Dear beloved 'Michael Worldwide Newsletter" and "Message from Michael" subscribers,

The Puharich article caused me to have a strongly sensed "Call to Action" inspiration the night after I posted it in my 'Message from Michael' on Sunday, Dec. 6, 2009.

The Masters and E.T's keep saying "now is the time" that humanity needs to 'make it's destined powerful collective move' to get the disclosure ANNOUNCEMENT made, to throw out the existing U.S. government, etc...and Puharich mentioned that 100 people who synchronized their thoughts together--while in a meditative 8 hertz resonance frequency field--could do incredible things (create virtually almost any kind of positive instant 'mind over matter" miracle on Earth). SO...let's do it!


Start slowing down your physical and mental activity at least a half hour to an hour before our collective focus on this unique 10 minute divine IMAGE begins--in your time zone--and allow yourself to leave all other daily distractions vanish. Situate your body and soul Being in a secluded quiet outer and inner space, at least 15 minutes before joining the collective in the foregoing divine ceremony or ritual....

Get your body postured in a comfortable, seated or lying down position and listen to the 7.8 hertz fractal frequency Pyramid OM sound--kindly supplied to our collective--

Intend consciously that you are allowing your soul, body, mind, and feelings to move into a quiet, calm, meditative state. You will ignore any sounds or physical distractions that would cause physical body movement, since you want to "let go" of your tight body consciousness, to let go of any emotional or mental concerns, to feel "light as a feather" as you go into and manifest this ritual in exact real time-line divine IMAGING with your unique and beloved Lightworker collective....

As the collective divine IMAGE moment 'strikes on the hour'...first connect in mind, feeling and soul with your 'duet' or 'triplet.'

THEN call forth a huge stone image of the Great Pyramid...knowing and sensing the entire 100-Group collective is connecting with you in mind, body and soul....as One....Enjoy the uplifting feeling of this this communal collective ONENESS for a few expansive moments.

THEN, eyes closed, bring up the clear IMAGE before your inner mind of the 'word' PEACE in huge gold letters
and ponder deeply and joyfully on each successive letter of this word...

P stands for peace Earthwide...see it, sense it, know it, love it, bask in the joy of it! No wars, no terror nor violence, only peaceful, loving, caring sharing interactions within the entire worldwide Family of Man on Earth.

E stands for Extra-Terrestrial EXPOSURE & DISCLOSURE....See President Obama & staff, or a well-known living human being of your choice, making a worldwide ANNOUNCEMENT that our government has been covertly in communication and interaction with our peaceful Galactic Neighbors for over 60 years, using their E.T. technology and Tesla's free energy science to build anti-gravity spaceships and bases on our moon and Mars...that for nearly 40 years we have had teleportation 'elevators' enabling our government scientists instant physical teleportation to the moon and Mars...that "flying saucers are real" and that NOW the past long worldwide E.T. 'cover up' has now ended...

THEN feel or get the sense of the positive great change in consciousness of all of humanity on Earth that this shocking, publicly-aired worldwide true disclosure brings....

A stands for ASCENSION & ALL IS WELL" on Earth now....

Bask joyfully in that calm, centered, feeling KNOWING that our bountiful, ever-sustaining Mother Earth is Ascending, you are Ascending, and ALL on Earth are Ascending and YES, YES, YES....ALL IS WELL.

C stands for Christ Conscious & Co-Creativity, of our Earth human entrance into the final Golden Age on Earth of peace, prosperity and loving co-creativity with everyone humanly embodied on Earth from this day forth....

E stands for ETERNAL EVERLASTING LIGHT, LOVE & JOY for all on Earth....

Feel your genuine deep gratitude to Creator God Source for the gift of Eternal Life and stewardship over All That Is in CREATION, and your endless joy in sharing 10 blissful minutes in a collective divine IMAGE with your ever-loving, caring, sharing sisters and brothers on Earth....knowing "you have asked' AND confident that
"Ask and you are given" is an absolute immutable Law of Creator God...AND it is done!

viking

[Swanny]

Thx Viking but that Michael woman gives me the willies

[viking]

Yeah....you wish!....

viking

[viking]

In this video, Brad Johnson speaks on the discoveries of the ancient city that could possibly be that of Atlantis, new water worlds discovered light years away and unofficial disclosure happening now before the dawn of 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4vCJZ7GOmw

viking

[Steven]

Hello Viking. Here is an article written by Michael E. Salla. He is one researcher I really trust in this field. It talks about a secret meeting which happened in 2008 at the U.N. Of course, many will say: "more dates". But what matters is the ongoing flow of information coming out.


"Source Reveals Secret UFO Meeting at U.N.
by Michael E. Salla, Ph.D

February 12, 2008

Source Reveals Secret UFO Meeting at U.N."

"I received the following email from two trusted colleagues (Clay and Shawn Pickering) regarding a reliable source informing them that a secret meeting occurred yesterday morning (Feb 12) at the New York office of the United Nations concerning the recent spate of UFO sightings. It appears that a number of nation states are concerned about the impact of increased UFO sightings and wish to be briefed about what is happening.

Their source, who currently works in the diplomatic corps, had to travel for an early morning off the record meeting at the UN. Their source revealed that a secret UFO working group exists that is authorizing the release of such information to the public, in an effort to acclimate others to what is about to unfold.

A date of 2013 was given as the time for official disclosure and/or when extraterrestrials show up in an unambiguous way. In the interim there will be acclimation related releases of information. Importantly, the source revealed that the events leading up to official disclosure will involve more ethically oriented extraterrestrials, and they will not pose a military threat to the world.

The information below may be related to the recent debate in the Japanese parliament and statements by the Defense Minister over how Japan would respond to extraterrestrials appearing over Japanese airspace that display peaceful intent. It appears nation states are moving forward in developing public policy on how to respond to extraterrestrials showing up. So if the information below is accurate, then it is likely that we will see more examples of governments making official statements concerning how they would respond to extraterrestrials that show up over their airspace. It is likely that parliamentarians around the world will start receiving briefings to help them develop public policy concerning extraterrestrial life.

Such briefings will probably extend to prominent media sources who will give more coverage to UFO sightings in popular media outlets such as Larry King Live. Increased media reports will first likely lead to disclosures of secret antigravity technologies that have been withheld for over 50 years, as a prelude to official disclsoure of extraterresrial life. The source's reference to suicides is probably related to those who will learn that much of what they have learned and believed over a lifetime was a lie. The 1961 Brookings Report referred to scientists as being most vulnerable to the disclosure of extraterrestrial life since it will make redundant many of the cherished scientific theories and models held by this community.

Overall, it appears that a countdown is underway to official disclosure around 2013, and that nation states and the UN are being briefed. The acclimation process will accelerate over the next five years as UFO sightings increase around the globe forcing governments to make public policy statements on UFOs and extraterrestrial life."

Namaste, Steven

[viking]

Hi Steven

Very much appreciated...yes very interesting info from Salla...I'll keep my tabs on him...however I believe it will happen sooner than 2013...too much info surfacing...if it doesn't happen by then...there will be a revolution!!! ha ha
And I'll be leading it...

viking

[AscendingStarseed]

2013 sounds about right for the Draconian overlords...errr nincumpoops running the UN. They're probably secretly hoping ET just shows up so they don't have to admit they were lying for over a half a century....without being forced into it, at this point I'm beginning to believe they don't have the fortitude or the spine to admit to a cover-up.

Everything I'm seeing from our leaders indicates they are hell bent against doing the right thing, or past the point of having any competence left to solve the big problems. We can't pass health care, we can't pass effective meaningful climate legislation, we can't get out of illegal wars...it seems like we've lost the ability to solve problems on a big scale. Group think has become so laxidasical sp? and corrupt that we've lost the ability to organize and unite our efforts on a large scale...

I'm beginning to think it will happen, but not on the part of the US....we're too bogged down with opposing oppositions and infighting within the ranks of the leadership. This country has lost the ability to get things done on a meaningful scale...

Viking I'll be right by your side leading that revolution...

[waitinginthewings]

I have a sinking feeling that the lie is much bigger than we are currently aware of.......the rabbit hole is more like a long tunnel.....I don't want to go down that tunnel. I just want to role a big rock in front of the hole & forget about it forever. Then have a party and move on.

Tks viking for your post......I hope it doesn't come to a revolution......but people's patience are being sorely tested now.

[Steven]

A disclosure from the officials governmental entities would open a Pandora's box. They know this well... on the other hand, contacts and sightings without adding crop circles, are escalating around the world. They are nervous about it. Among them are people who were completely unaware of alien presence before. The pressure most be high on official to find a solution without adding to the turmoil.

They might have hundreds of scenario to come up with. All of them, tales. Free energy is coming out. They must not like it... At all. It could mean 80% of the human work saved... That is a big change. It could mean a lot less influence upon our lives.

The knowledge and understanding of the Universal Laws by an increasing amount of people is creating some huge change subtly. Shaping our realities from the state of our consciousness is no longer a "Secret". The impacts of thoughts/emotion directly to our material world is observed scientifically. This new emergence is coexisting with many beliefs system, it is also observable and verifiable. This is another real bugger for their game...

Bringing forward with honesty, the alien presence on Earth would create such a huge impact on the Hu-man civilization. It is almost inconceivable for the "manipulators" to let it flow in our minds. There are surely, at high level of authorities around the world, many good people in charge. Even for them, from their perspective, it must be very hard to find a way how to bring the news forward. The most popular way seeming to be feeding the masses with little bits of mind conditioning information in hope to alleviate the burden of truth.

And there is much more in the box... Ouf! What a burden.

Namaste, Steven

[Starlah]

Originally Posted by Swanny

I agree.
The only way I will believe that aliens are here is if I see them with my own eyes and even then I won't be 100% sure.

__________________________________________________ __

You can be sure that you'll probably not be 100% sure!
Can you imagine a hybrid that is a culmination of at least 4, 5, 6 or more breeding attempts? They will look like you and I and only the very aware will see the minute differences from the way humans appear......
As for being 100% benevolent I have some doubts about that......they probably have an Agenda like everyone else on this Planet!
__________________________________________________ ___
Humpty Dumpty sat on a Wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great Fall
All the King's soldiers and all the King's men
Had a hard time putting Humpty together again..........

[haibane]

My personal opinion is that most of what's being discussed here - regardless of what I choose to believe or consider - is based on unreliable information, assumptions and wishful thinking. I also believe an 'official' disclosure, if one comes in near future, is quite likely to be just another propaganda game.

The only trustworthy disclosure I can imagine at the moment would be at one of the upcoming Project Camelot conferences, Bill and Kerry announcing a surprise guest, who happens to be an ET, willing to publicly demonstrate his/her ET-ness ... (^__^ )

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by haibane

My personal opinion is that most of what's being discussed here - regardless of what I choose to believe or consider - is based on unreliable information, assumptions and wishful thinking. I also believe an 'official' disclosure, if one comes in near future, is quite likely to be just another propaganda game.

The only trustworthy disclosure I can imagine at the moment would be at one of the upcoming Project Camelot conferences, Bill and Kerry announcing a surprise guest, who happens to be an ET, willing to publicly demonstrate his/her ET-ness ... (^__^ )

ET can lie too.

[haibane]

Originally Posted by Scarab

ET can lie too.

How do you know? That's just another assumption - as I assume you haven't met any ... (^_~ )

Also, lie about what? Being an ET?

But yes, of course, you are quite right. What I meant was a decent, acceptable demonstration. Like making an ET spaceship land in front of the conference hall and giving all the attendees a guided tour.

(sorry to be such an a**, couldn't help it)

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by haibane

How do you know? That's just another assumption - as I assume you haven't met any ... (^_~ )

Also, lie about what? Being an ET?

But yes, of course, you are quite right. What I meant was a decent, acceptable demonstration. Like making an ET spaceship land in front of the conference hall and giving all the attendees a guided tour.

(sorry to be such an a**, couldn't help it)

ET works with the government and they both work to keep it secret.

IMO

[micjer]

This is an interesting video of a couple of UF0's...

[viking]

Great video Micjer ... What more proof do we need???

This is one of my favourite crop circles...it's one of the circles the de-bunkers cannot explain!!! ha ha

"Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES.
Much PAIN but still time.
There is GOOD out there.
We OPpose DECEPTION.
Conduit CLOSING"



Great video...please watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4CYcp5wObs

viking

[viking]

In Russia there comes the hope of the world --

Not as that sometimes termed of the communistic, or Bolshevik, no; but freedom, freedom!

That each man will live for his fellow man!

The principle has been born.

It will take years for it to be crystallised, but out of Russia comes again the hope of the world.

Guided by what?

That friendship with the nation that hath even set on its present monetary unit, "In God We Trust."

"We now have irrefutable scientific proof that the mainstream media's explanation for the Norway Spiral cannot be correct."



IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO KEEP A SECRET

"We will also convincingly argue that perhaps the number-one reason why the truth is about to come out is that the primary group responsible for the UFO cover-up can no longer afford to keep it a secret.

It costs a lot of money to harass, intimidate and discredit the opposition on such a huge issue as this, for such a prolonged period of time -- and the group responsible for the secrecy is now functionally bankrupt, and is being systematically taken down by opposing insider factions who want Disclosure.

Last year's shockingly sudden economic collapse -- and the unmitigated political disaster of the short-term bailouts that were handed out to the usual suspects -- is a strong piece of supporting evidence to suggest that the money simply isn't there anymore to finance the enormous political / military / corporate machine required to keep this enormous secret under wraps.

All empires in recorded history have crumbled from over-extending themselves financially. History repeats itself. This time, the results will be much better than most of us could ever have expected."

Further reading...disclosure...
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...losure-endgame

viking

[Bilko]

Its hard to imagine what true disclosure would mean to us as a race. One has to think about the reasons governments would keep the existence of extra terrestrial life a secret in the first place.

I imagine there would be troops on the streets guarding capitals and powerful industry.
I imagine that the first response of the general public would be fear. Fear would quickly turn to anger like the child of 17 that is told it was adopted at 3.
I imagine a global pandemic of fear with a few enlightened ones trying to settle us down.
it would take quite some time for people to be relaxed enough to return to work or function as a networked society.

Every decision the government had ever made would be called into question regardless of whether the ETs showed up or not.
I personally think the machine would come to a grinding halt, although many may be ecstatic at disclosure i think the many drones among us would not.

There will be one ultimate question. What now?
What do we do now?
New leaders will be sought.
The old will try and hold onto their power. Decisions will be made out of fear and not love.

There will have to be a voice of reason, compassion, learning, LOVE. One voice, a pillar people can turn to. A rock, a foundation stone so stable that we can build a new life on it.
That is something no politician or tv personality can give us. Maybe it has to come from within.
Whatever happens/if it happens at all, i don't think that disclosure will be the pretty picture that many envisage.

Sorry to sound so negative but like i say, until society can learn to make decisions based on love and not fear; it will never be easy. Then again, evolution is always hard if perceived as such. Until they can see the big picture...(inlakesh). Until people realize we are all one.