Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[Stardustaquarion]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Hmm....Where does a guy who knows none of this start??

Every time I think I know more.....the less is revealed.

I am not a spiritual man and the densities...time lines and such set my mind a whirl.

Can someone help me in layman's terms??

I know we can all be so much more and I feel trapped in a body with no memories.

I humbly ask for some guidance....thanks

Basically we live in a Universe which has 15 dimensions, each 3 dimensions make a harmonic universe (HU)

HU5 - the domain of the Rishi (dimensions 13 to 15)
HU4 - the domain of the Avatar where the Kryst is (dimensions 10 to 12)
HU3 - the domain of the Oversoul or Monad (dimensions 7 to 9)
HU2 - the domain of the Soul (dimensions 4 to 6)
HU1 - Where we are

You can start by readin the Voyager I and II books by Ashayana Deane or go to their website

http://www.azuritepress.com/

and explore, there is a lot of information here to under Keylonic Sciences, Anna Hayes and Ashayana

Cheers

[eleni]

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

Basically we live in a Universe which has 15 dimensions, each 3 dimensions make a harmonic universe (HU)

HU5 - the domain of the Rishi (dimensions 13 to 15)
HU4 - the domain of the Avatar where the Kryst is (dimensions 10 to 12)
HU3 - the domain of the Oversoul or Monad (dimensions 7 to 9)
HU2 - the domain of the Soul (dimensions 4 to 6)
HU1 - Where we are

You can start by readin the Voyager I and II books by Ashayana Deane or go to their website

http://www.azuritepress.com/

and explore, there is a lot of information here to under Keylonic Sciences, Anna Hayes and Ashayana

Cheers

I've read all the Hayes books printed thus so far.......here comes my question......how can we prove what she says is the correct information?

Yes, how do you prove it?

[THE eXchanger]

personally, we see the 15 or 1-5 - as 6 - a 6th density high astral harvest/ not dimensions

(and, we are NOT sure, why she ties things, that way to dimensions)

we are, NOT sure, what 'ad/h' thinks ....or, bases her facts on

"abraxasinas" what do you think ???

(we know she also utilises, a myriad of newly formed names/and, descriptions for things too)

some of which, we've never heard of

(although, we do NOT profess to be an eXpert on her work- a. dean/hayes/ad/h, work)

there are definitely threads of truth, in it

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

personally, we see the 15 or 1-5 - as 6 - a 6th density high astral harvest/ not dimensions

(and, we are NOT sure, why she ties things, that way to dimensions)

we are, NOT sure, what 'ad/h' thinks ....or, bases her facts on

"abraxasinas" what do you think ???

(we know she also utilises, a myriad of newly formed names/and, descriptions for things too)

some of which, we've never heard of

(although, we do NOT profess to be an eXpert on her work- a. dean/hayes/ad/h, work)

there are definitely threads of truth, in it

Susan the Exchanger - just like Isis eXchanged the lost spiritual phallus of Osiris with the symbol of Grandma Spiderwoman of the Hopi Lore.
The Arachne then wove the web to allow Horus of the Horizon to be born in the symbol of the Wisdomkeeper of the Ages - the Sphinx.
So Isis PERSISTED like OUR Susan does - to do and say and write what she considers to be right and what 'feels' ok.
Indeed she is a 'Keeper of the Secrets' and an ambassadora for the highest feminine, the Creation of the Universe as Cosmic Womb herself.
Susan the EXchanger has become the SHARER of the Secrets of Creation and many of her sisters will follow her into a New Dawn following a long and enduring night.

What do I think about Anna Hayes?
She is your sister and a fellow goddess of the sharing and the searching and the exchanging of the data.
Albeit, consulting the Council of Thuban I am advised that the information is as yet disharmonised between the yin and the yang.
The shadow yang has overpowered the yang of the light and the information tries to be androgenous before its time and without the fulfilment of the Mother's Dream to Love BOTH the male and the female.

Abraxasinas

[Stardustaquarion]

Originally Posted by eleni

I've read all the Hayes books printed thus so far.......here comes my question......how can we prove what she says is the correct information?

Yes, how do you prove it?

I am not here to prove, I am not a speaker only a student...the information is available on the website and can be analized in detail

For me is real because I have studied and done a lot of work that has enable me to have direct experience but if you don't have direct experience how can I explain how the Yunasai feels like, there are no words that can convey the love and the expanssion

Also on a practical note, Cliff High, who is rather down to earth; believes we are suffering from magnetic anomalies. Those anomalies have been explained by Ashayana Dean with great detail in her workshops and DVDs

Indeed, Asha has explained even 9/11 and predicted things that have come to pass so early in her lectures is stunning!

All that I can say is that all my life I looked for answers and have studied so many schools of thought and could not make sense of it all and when I found the teachings of the Melchizedeck Cloister Emeral Order, I resonated with them inmediately and it has given me back all what I was searching for: Self love, peace, serenity, etc., and the certainty that I am not abandoned here and I am infinitely loved by my god self...inside myself...all these experiences are personal

The ammount of information that Ashayana Deane has brought forth is stunning, about 1000 hours of lectures that cover so much material that explains so much of how all came to be and which is the way out....

I know now that even if I can not do slide into Urtha I will die and go there anyway for part of me is already there...and it is awesome!

Love

[eleni]

Abrax, is there any way you can give a simple explanation of your last post? My eyes are still not feeling to well reading script of such length right now.

If not, I'll try again another day.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by eleni

Abrax, is there any way you can give a simple explanation of your last post? My eyes are still not feeling to well reading script of such length right now.

If not, I'll try again another day.

Which post do you mean Eleni; I have answered quite a few?

Abrax

[eleni]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Which post do you mean Eleni; I have answered quite a few?

Abrax

The one pertaining to the encapsulated writings.

[Céline]

Thank you for the parable...it is far easier to understand your point of view in that context.

i wanted to quote your text but there are so many ['s etc, that i had a hard time deciphering it...

i do understand the example you are giving, but i no longer think it applies...the kids in the box have changed.

as an example...

my kids would never have "thrown the sand" and said "mine"...they would have grabbed a handfull, run up to the other kid and said... "Wow check this out!!"

Tom, Dick and Jane... and céline are Different....

These rules..archetypes... do not apply anymore...

*céline puts her hand over her heart closes her eyes*

i can feel it in the rythym ....can you?

[cloud9]

I finally decided to take the risk, I'll look ignorant and even more so because I haven't read Anna Hayes books which seem very difficult to grasp and as I understand much of the material in this thread is related to her teachings. I do have some questions:
1.- abraxasinas, who are you? Can you tell us more about you and your knowledge? I have read very extrange things in the last few years and I'm trying to learn the most I can but sometimes it seems too much to do and not enough time.
2.- How is it possible for "regular" people who need to work and keep a family to get all the information they need?
3.- Are you related in some way to the reptilians more than the rest of us?
4.- Silly me, I'm very curious about what you can see or sense about me if it's possible.
5.- In plain English, can you tell us what you see in the future for the next 2 - 3 years in recognizable or physical events for humankind?
Thank you and I hope other people like me who don't understand very much all the jargon of the thread can really "get it".

Thank you so much.
Cloud.

[mntruthseeker]

Cloud9 you are deffinately not ignorant

I too am just going through the books myself but I cant get a good feeling out of this thread.

IMO I hope you get answers to the questions you were brave enough to ask.

Ashayana's has much to offer but its very detailed.

It will be so nice to get OUT from under their rule.

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by cloud9

I finally decided to take the risk, I'll look ignorant and even more so because I haven't read Anna Hayes books which seem very difficult to grasp and as I understand much of the material in this thread is related to her teachings. I do have some questions:
1.- abraxasinas, who are you? Can you tell us more about you and your knowledge? I have read very extrange things in the last few years and I'm trying to learn the most I can but sometimes it seems too much to do and not enough time.
2.- How is it possible for "regular" people who need to work and keep a family to get all the information they need?
3.- Are you related in some way to the reptilians more than the rest of us?
4.- Silly me, I'm very curious about what you can see or sense about me if it's possible.
5.- In plain English, can you tell us what you see in the future for the next 2 - 3 years in recognizable or physical events for humankind?
Thank you and I hope other people like me who don't understand very much all the jargon of the thread can really "get it".

Thank you so much.
Cloud.

I'm with you Cloud.....I always considered myself well versed in the English language but I can't relate to any of this.

As Steven has so eloquently put it above....it seems to be a whole new language.

I like to keep things simple...for I am a simple guy.

Never saw an alien, UFO, Bigfoot, or a crop circle.....just a plain ole Joe on the road to what I hope is a better ME...so I can bring something to the table for a better US.

I lost the rags of religion and replaced them with a belief in a Creator Force that pervades everything. It cannot be stopped, it cannot be corrupted and if you work against it....you will eventually FAIL

I don't know anything about dimensions...ascension...time slips and streams.

I do know I was not always what I am now and I have a higher voice inside me that knows a bunch more than I do.

When I listen to that voice...I am in BALANCE....when I disregard that voice I lower myself and those around me.

I know we are all connected at our very roots but we all wear different masks to hide it.

Peace Brothers and Sisters

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by cloud9

I finally decided to take the risk, I'll look ignorant and even more so because I haven't read Anna Hayes books which seem very difficult to grasp and as I understand much of the material in this thread is related to her teachings. I do have some questions:
1.- abraxasinas, who are you? Can you tell us more about you and your knowledge? I have read very extrange things in the last few years and I'm trying to learn the most I can but sometimes it seems too much to do and not enough time.
2.- How is it possible for "regular" people who need to work and keep a family to get all the information they need?
3.- Are you related in some way to the reptilians more than the rest of us?
4.- Silly me, I'm very curious about what you can see or sense about me if it's possible.
5.- In plain English, can you tell us what you see in the future for the next 2 - 3 years in recognizable or physical events for humankind?
Thank you and I hope other people like me who don't understand very much all the jargon of the thread can really "get it".

Thank you so much.
Cloud.

Hi cloud9!

1. Everyone is a mirror for everyone else when incarnated at some place at some time in the material universe.
So can you see yourself as the 'starving' Ethiopian and as the 'queen of England'?
You are both of them when NOT in incarnation.
Where does this knowledge come from? Or is this just some personal innuendo and imagination?
It is the prerogative of the 'dead' people of the 'mysterious beyond' to KNOW after leaving the 'use by dated' 'bodies' behind.

Then the dichotomy of life and death is of couese engaged in this scenario as well.

So where does the knowledge from Thuban derive from: The Land of the Dead. {Hint: There exist a story, that promises 'Eternal Life' with the abolishment of physical death, but requiring new bodies}.

2. It is sufficient to ALLOW relevant information to 'invade' ones personal intimate space; as the 'inner soul's superconsciousness' can process all information from the perception of the unity, without the waking consciousness fully understanding the information given.

3. No, I am as much related to anything else as you are. I have remembered more than you at this point in spacetime and to help you to remember more, I am sharing what I know.

4. You are on cloud Nine. You are filled with an all penetrating idealism as how you have envisioned or 'dreamt' of how life could be and you are attempting to infuse your environments at work, with your friends and family and your familiars, with your ideas; though often you lack the confidence to express yourself as you would like to do.

5. 2008 began the great transformation in a midpoint of a warptime loop beginning in December 2004.
2009 began the declaration from 'Dragonspace', meaning the 'Land of the Dead' above the limiting 8th dimension of what many here term the 'Reptilian agendas'. Dragonspace encompasses dimensions (or densities) 9-10-11-12.
2010 will allow 1 in 50,000 inhabitants of the earth to sow internal seeds for a harvest beginning on the Mayan nexus date and culminating in an 'end of all old prophecy' in August 2013.
In that time period, the total population count of the earth will have reached the required saturation level of 7.2 billion incarnates.

The 1 in 50,000 represents a Core for a new starhumanity (Old Human Caterpillars cocooning to become StarHuman (or Dragonised) Butterflies. The former 'eating' or consuming the Gaian environment, the latter POLLINATING and FEEDING the Gaian environment.

Around this core of humanity will be spo 200 Million humans, also able to graduate into a new form of humanity.

Post 2012 there will so be TWO different RACES of humans inhabiting this planet - Old Humans and New Starhumans.

Abrax

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Céline

Thank you for the parable...it is far easier to understand your point of view in that context.

i wanted to quote your text but there are so many ['s etc, that i had a hard time deciphering it...

i do understand the example you are giving, but i no longer think it applies...the kids in the box have changed.

as an example...

my kids would never have "thrown the sand" and said "mine"...they would have grabbed a handfull, run up to the other kid and said... "Wow check this out!!"

Tom, Dick and Jane... and céline are Different....

These rules..archetypes... do not apply anymore...

*céline puts her hand over her heart closes her eyes*

i can feel it in the rythym ....can you?

It may not apply for you dear one; as you have already evolved into an appreciation of the unity. But look around you; do you not agree that the parable poignantly applies to the majority of the human population?

Abrax

[halebox]

Abraxasinas,
This info is clearly over my head. I am interested as we all are in who I am and where I originated. I have always felt like I am not from here or have not been here long. I also feel like I've slipped a little on my path. My main goal has always been working on peoples energies every chance I get if I feel they are imbalanced. This is my job now on earth. I want to do more.
Thanks to all

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by halebox

Abraxasinas,
This info is clearly over my head. I am interested as we all are in who I am and where I originated. I have always felt like I am not from here or have not been here long. I also feel like I've slipped a little on my path. My main goal has always been working on peoples energies every chance I get if I feel they are imbalanced. This is my job now on earth. I want to do more.
Thanks to all

Hi helebox!

No information is over anyone's head. If a chinese native speaker Hu Long finds himherself at Trafalgar Square in London and begins to ask questions to the Londoners; then he will not be understood by anyone not familiar with the form of Chinese spoken by Hu Long.

Then Hu Long can try sign language or body talk to convey his askings.
Eventually, some form of communication will eventuate upon patience and persistence of the parties concerned.

Communication with semantics is just one form of language.
Being English familiar; your subconscious will decipher bits of data and forward it to your superconscious which speaks ALL languages, including advanced mathematics, Egyptian hieroglyphics and Druidic Runic.

What you are doing is sharing your compassion. As the Buddha says; the key to ascension is to Show Compassion from the Heart.

Your Heart is a LoveHeart from the Dragon of Thuban and the work you do is of the highest vibration possible and just as important as the work done by data sharers such as many here, including myself.

Knowing what your job is here on earth and doing your job in integrity and love has qualified you to enter the echelons of the highest frequencies attainable in the universe.

There is nothing more powerful than the Wisdom of Love, which you obviously have made your own; blended with the Understanding of Love.
It is the second part you can learn and gain in; the former part you have mastered.

Love and gratitude in Dragonhood to you
Abraxas

[SABINA]

please allow to comment your last post . I like your humorously intelligent and
most wise answers often Ihave to laugh out by heart . Love and humor is what makes us human

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by SABINA

please allow to comment your last post . I like your humorously intelligent and
most wise answers often Ihave to laugh out by heart . Love and humor is what makes us human

What an excellent observation Sabina!

It's another way for describing the 'Curse of Humanity' - the Old Humanity.

There you are, so Young and vital, so beautiful in body, innocent in mind and virile to the maximum.
Yet you are relatively 'stupid' in not knowing much about life and yourself at all in your youthful exhuberance and Love for Life.

Then you get old and sick and your body falls apart and you look back and say to yourself:

'Now I am so much wiser and experienced. If I just could get my youthful and virile body back; I would appreciate my Life so much better and intensely. I am 'stupid' no longer; but now that I have found at least some wisdom; my old age says: Sorry Pal or Gal; that's it. Prepare to leave the theatre!'

'Drats', say the wiser of the wise. This has become an unbearable situation. Perhaps we can do something about these comic injustices!?

Love You too!

Abraxas

[Jonah]

Abraxas,

Is there a place in the universe which is not affected by this 26,000 year cycle?... are the species on these planets able to reproduce as we do...

if we were exempt from this enevitability ... would we still be able to reproduce in say 1,000 years...

from the abduction scenerios it would seem we are little more than cattle...

used perhaps off planet somewhere as a slave species... any thoughts?

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Jonah

Abraxas,

Is there a place in the universe which is not affected by this 26,000 year cycle?... are the species on these planets able to reproduce as we do...

if we were exempt from this enevitability ... would we still be able to reproduce in say 1,000 years...

from the abduction scenerios it would seem we are little more than cattle...

used perhaps off planet somewhere as a slave species... any thoughts?

Hi Jonah!

No, all of the universe is affected, because Gaia is THE 'feminine Mother template'.
In simple words, the superconsciousness of ALL alien sentiences KNOWS Gaia to be THEIR Mother also.

It's like this:
1.
Universe is Unified without physical expression, i.e. material manifestation - archetypical energy only with VOID=INFINITY=ABYSS etc.

2.
Universe BIFURCATES into FatherHE=CREATOR + MotherSHE=CREATION in the Void=Eternity FORMING the AntiState for the Finite Physicalised Cosmos.
Then State and AntiState are MIRRORED in the 'Firmament' of the HOLOGRAM of the Wormhole (say) as a MINIMUM spacetime configuration.
Then Father-Source USES this MIRROR=SPACETIME=SPIRIT=91 from Void=Infinity to communicate with Mother-Sink= Entire Physical Universe AS Creation.

3.
Universe EVOLVES physically and SLOWLY gains Self-Awareness and Consciousness through and BY the space occupied in its Growth/Expansion.
So the Mother=Cosmos REFLECTS HER Totality in the Spacetime Mirror.

4.
The Infinity of the Father-Creator becomes FOCUSED in the Singularity of the Wormhole-Mirror as a Boundary between the Infiniteness of HE and the Finiteness of SHE.

5.
The FOCUS of the Father then is MIRRORED and Projected INTO the Mother as another Focus For a destined Full Remembrance and HomeComing.

6.
This Focus is the located at the physical Center of planet Earth as the Gaian Focus for the Cosmic Center (through the Solar Center and the Galactic Center and the Groupgalactic Center and the Supercluster Center).

7.
The Lifeforms upon Gaia, partaking and sharing HER Evolution as the Cosmic Focus are themselves FOCUSED in a MIRROR of MIRRORS.
This Mirror of Mirrors is called Human Template say as Vitruvius=Purusha=CosmicMan.

8.
So all nonhuman terrestrial lifeforms become MIRRORS for HUMANITY.

9.
All these nonhuman lifeforms then become MIRRORS for ALL extraterrestrial lifeforms.

10.
The Mirror-Sequence so is centered environmentally on Gaia and is centered in terms of Cosmic SuperIdentity on the Human Template;

Universe-Gaia & Extraterrestrial Life-Human Life-Nonhuman Terrestrial Life.

The concept of humans as cattle or resource relates to the fact, that ALL ET's CANNOT evolve into Source-Identification WITHOUT implementing the Human Template within their own genomes.
As the Andromedeans state rather pertinently: The Human Template is like 'Royalty' to ALL aliens.
The 'hostility' of Orion-Alpha Draconian agendas is the same 'hostility' a territorial alpha lion would produce against 'intruding' beta lions say.

The 'hostility' described so becomes subject to the Gaian homecoming, as this will 'pacify' the universe.

Perhaps this has helped some misunderstandings and misinterpretations.

Abraxas

[mntruthseeker]

JohnMatX

No, you did not say anything about assecsion, I picked that up from another source on this very thread.

I understand fully what you have written and I wanted you to know that I realize it was necessary and accept it.

Thank you much

Blessings

[halebox]

So you feel my origins are from Thuban or just my hearts intent? What species populates the Draco star system? Also Ive witnessed many luminous orbs floating in the sky in the past couple years sometimes groups of them in daylight. Sometimes appearing minutes after looking into the sky above my head. Can you give an opinion on these?

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Hi helebox!

No information is over anyone's head. If a chinese native speaker Hu Long finds himherself at Trafalgar Square in London and begins to ask questions to the Londoners; then he will not be understood by anyone not familiar with the form of Chinese spoken by Hu Long.

Then Hu Long can try sign language or body talk to convey his askings.
Eventually, some form of communication will eventuate upon patience and persistence of the parties concerned.

Communication with semantics is just one form of language.
Being English familiar; your subconscious will decipher bits of data and forward it to your superconscious which speaks ALL languages, including advanced mathematics, Egyptian hieroglyphics and Druidic Runic.

What you are doing is sharing your compassion. As the Buddha says; the key to ascension is to Show Compassion from the Heart.

Your Heart is a LoveHeart from the Dragon of Thuban and the work you do is of the highest vibration possible and just as important as the work done by data sharers such as many here, including myself.

Knowing what your job is here on earth and doing your job in integrity and love has qualified you to enter the echelons of the highest frequencies attainable in the universe.

There is nothing more powerful than the Wisdom of Love, which you obviously have made your own; blended with the Understanding of Love.
It is the second part you can learn and gain in; the former part you have mastered.

Love and gratitude in Dragonhood to you
Abraxas

[eleni]

On the subject of orbs.....I had an experience 8 years or so ago where I floated out of bed to meet this orb the size of a Swiss exercise ball that had floated in via my window- I merged with this orb and it was an incredible sexual experience unlike any earth based incident (back then)......

What is the meaning of that? I felt I merged with an aspect of myself.......

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by eleni

On the subject of orbs.....I had an experience 8 years or so ago where I floated out of bed to meet this orb the size of a Swiss exercise ball that had floated in via my window- I merged with this orb and it was an incredible sexual experience unlike any earth based incident (back then)......

What is the meaning of that? I felt I merged with an aspect of myself.......

007 had a similar experience in 'Moonraker'! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWTsp...eature=related

Namaste

[eleni]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

007 had a similar experience in 'Moonraker'! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWTsp...eature=related

Namaste

Hmm......been a long time since I saw that movie- looks like maybe I should rent it