Do you think Earth bound humans will ever make it pass class ZERO/ONE civilization?

[Mercuriel]

Always remember - You get what You Focus on...

[haibane]

Originally Posted by Mercuriel

Always remember - You get what You Focus on...

I couldn't agree more.

IMHO a classification based solely on how the material resources are exploited is extremely limited ... And whose classification is it anyway? Even if the whole planet subscribed to this idea, we're gonna have to take a look at how the Galaxy-class and/or higher-dimensions authorities classify things, if they do at all. After all, what would happen if tomorrow we find an ants' own classification of ant communities? Some will marvel at such unexpected cultural feat of a lower species, while most will have a hell of a laugh - for about a week before they forget about it.

And, don't forget that the notice board with such information might be located in a basement of such authority's building, where the stairway has collapsed and there is a starved tiger on the loose ... In other words, it is a Vogon-style classification (^__~ )

[joe2288]

From what I have learned we live in a infinite universe, there are an infinite

number timelines that are occurring at every moment. The way you perceive the

world and the way your frequency resonates, determines what timelines you fall

off and on too. In a way you fall onto different timelines, that resonate most

with you, and you are the creator of your own future no one else.

[greybeard]

Hi Peace of Mind
please have a look at the last page of "the ego what is it how to transcend" thread.
It echoes your post
.Posted it before I saw your thread.
Regards Chris

[Peace of mind]

I have to dis-agree a bit Joe, unless you can explain to me why my life is good but the lives of the people around me are not… much of what is being said here is like preaching to the choir, I’m not the one in need of convincing…

I totally agree about being the change you want to see. But there seems to be something written in the program that is rocking the awakened back to sleep. It almost feels like a lost cause leading by example. It would be so much easier to say “to hell with it” but that’s not in my nature. I struggle with patience mainly because of hypocrisy, and deceit. Duality may be a device for learning, but the only real time I’ve really experience it was in my youth. As an adult I’ve learned to project positivity and my desires, but can’t seem to stabilize it in a community. Perhaps this is my duality experience, and if so then it is under the control of others…which leads me to posting what I posted above.
I’m completely perplexed to the notion of accepting something I did not want or think about. If I can just manifest happy productive communities this will all be worth it…but there is no proof of what’s to come so people ignore most of what is spoken here and continue to play the me, me, me game.
I feel I’m beyond duality and I don’t know why others accept this as an excuse in their lives. Could this theory be something drummed up by the same entities keeping us down?
Perhaps I was born in the wrong time, I shouldn’t have to suffer because of others, and I shouldn’t have to witness suffering when I already understand it. It hurts living in this time and age. Its way past the time for change and I’m sure people realize this too, but there is very little being done because of fear, and that’s just the God honest truth. I no longer wish to live amongst the procrastinators. It’s been fun in the beginning, but now it’s just getting ridiculous. I must have gotten the time and coordinates wrong when deciding to incarnate into a physical realm. There’s no question that I have unconditional love for people but they don’t have an ample amount of love for them selves to say “enough is enough”.

Peace

[Firstlook]

Originally Posted by Peace of mind

I have to dis-agree a bit Joe, unless you can explain to me why my life is good but the lives of the people around me are not… much of what is being said here is like preaching to the choir, I’m not the one in need of convincing…

I totally agree about being the change you want to see. But there seems to be something written in the program that is rocking the awakened back to sleep. It almost feels like a lost cause leading by example. It would be so much easier to say “to hell with it” but that’s not in my nature. I struggle with patience mainly because of hypocrisy, and deceit. Duality may be a device for learning, but the only real time I’ve really experience it was in my youth. As an adult I’ve learned to project positivity and my desires, but can’t seem to stabilize it in a community.

Fair enough. But live in the moment and you wont need to be preached by the choir.

We all need these pep talks. Cause when you are really trying to find a way, your not that confused by the situation. Its just accepted as the thing we call struggle. Its a evolutionary struggle now, of the mind being instantaneous with action. Thats when we evolve in all fields. Can you see the general reason why questions like these are being answered by individuals like Joe with posts like his. Were all working towards that poetry of words to help examine symbols and make them universally understandable. A working field of something socially logical, yet still individually specific and variable.

other then that, I hope you find some useful answers in this thread.




peace

[joe2288]

I see were you guys are coming from. I guess I try to focus more inwardly in

my own reality, rather then being caught up in other peoples realities, because

I see the outside world as a distraction. I think of it like this, when it comes

down to it it is all about individual learning. It does not matter what is going

on in the world as long as you are learning, because learning and growing on an

individual level is what it is all about. That is just how I see things I am sure

people have different views and that is fine too. .

[Hiram]

Hi Peace of Mind,

It seems that you are having some some serious existential issues and they are not easily solved. I can tell you that they WILL NOT be assuaged by anyone here but by yourself. Had you stopped to consider your incarnation here as a possible vector towards learning the futility of working on others?

Perhaps in another life you had incarnated and had much success influencing others, leading by example and such...but perhaps its not for this time, this place in which you currently exist.


You are like many of us asking....Whats wrong!? Something is wrong with this world...many serious things are wrong...and everything that am told to do in order to help, everything I'm told by sages, mystics, scientists, and philosophers doesn't really seem to effect things all that much.

I try and tell people at first, and then realize the futility of telling people anything...crying out in the darkness. I therefore decide to work on myself, leading by conduct and by example. Still, is this affecting anything? The effects are hard to observe.

There is an old saying "The treasure is in the question, not the answer"


What does that even mean? Perhaps it means that everything is about Potential Just as the word "car" isn't a car, but the potential for one is there as soon as the word is spoken.

I think our development as a planetary society is about potential. Its there. All the pontential is there...will it ignite like a brushfire? Will we spring the trap and run free? Or will we fall further into the sleep of forgetfulness? Mankind becoming once again nothing more than a clever animal chasing eachother like rats in the dark.

The potenial is there....and that is a GREAT GIFT. To have potential---no matter how slight. Is it natural to express frustration at the percieved lack of progress? Of course. Yet as a little flower presses up through a crack in the cement so are we. We have our potential, and that is the treasure....the question that within each of our minds.

Do not be concerned. It is not being naive to adhere to :Consider the lilies of the field...." Those lillys are perfect. They are busy being Lily's so cannot worry.

What are you going to be busy being? Thats your choice and no one can help you with it.

[Stardustaquarion]

Originally Posted by Peace of mind

I totally agree about being the change you want to see. But there seems to be something written in the program that is rocking the awakened back to sleep.

You are absolutely right, there is a mind control system that will be to complex to explain in few words here, sufice to say that HARRP is involved and its purpose is to keep people IN THE PROGRAM

It almost feels like a lost cause leading by example. Agree because we just can not lead others, they have to lead themselves

It would be so much easier to say “to hell with it” but that’s not in my nature. I struggle with patience mainly because of hypocrisy, and deceit. Duality may be a device for learning, but the only real time I’ve really experience it was in my youth. As an adult I’ve learned to project positivity and my desires, but can’t seem to stabilize it in a community. Perhaps this is my duality experience, and if so then it is under the control of others…which leads me to posting what I posted above. I think you are an indigo like me, and you really care , reality can only be changed from higher dimensions, that is the reason why changes happen when we concentrate in raising our frequency and working from higher dimenssions. This is the way TPTB work, they don't achieve things from the ground, they create the morphogenetic fields in other dimensions

I’m completely perplexed to the notion of accepting something I did not want or think about. If I can just manifest happy productive communities this will all be worth it…but there is no proof of what’s to come so people ignore most of what is spoken here and continue to play the me, me, me game.
I feel I’m beyond duality and I don’t know why others accept this as an excuse in their lives. Could this theory be something drummed up by the same entities keeping us down? We can not change people, they have free will
Perhaps I was born in the wrong time, I shouldn’t have to suffer because of others, and I shouldn’t have to witness suffering when I already understand it. It hurts living in this time and age. whether you believe it or not, other people do not feel like you, I can tell you it was a shock to me too but it is true. Most people have disgressed so much in the DNA that almost don't see you let alone get what one says

Its way past the time for change and I’m sure people realize this too, but there is very little being done because of fear, and that’s just the God honest truth. I no longer wish to live amongst the procrastinators. It’s been fun in the beginning, but now it’s just getting ridiculous. I must have gotten the time and coordinates wrong when deciding to incarnate into a physical realm. There’s no question that I have unconditional love for people but they don’t have an ample amount of love for them selves to say “enough is enough”.

Peace

Maybe you would like to see a different perspective, have you heard of the "freedom teachings", have you read Voyagers i and ii?

Love

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by joe2288

and you are the creator of your own future no one else.

I would like to agree with you but find that I am unable to.There isa only one time line, and that is the NOW.

The NOW that we are experiencing is really messed up and doing the ostrich will not help. The condition as described is where we find ourselves and this condition is the reality of the herd reality. The condition will prevail until the scales are tipped and we come to our senses and understand that 6 plus billion different realities will not work. There has to be a modicum of Constance, a point we all touch in unity and this point is the understanding that every action, thought and word of mine has ramifications down the line. The mindset we hold now is reflected back at us with the current condition.
So what am I saying? I agree, we are the creators of our own futures, but I do not agree that no-one else is. We create each others futures also due to the simple fact that we share this space and time with other soul travelers. We are RESPONSIBLE for each other and trying to deny this, only has profound negative ramifications.

Z

[K626]

If we weren't going to make it we wouldn't be here.

[Majorion]

We'll definitely get there.

I think we're very close to type-1.

[Jnana]

I've read a number of views of the future where humanity has moved beyond the need for technology and conventional power sources. I wonder how much this list applies when you remove some of the generally accepted notions of what is possible.