Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat

[K626]

It seems pretty obvious to me that this site has drawn the attention of 'the dark side'. FWIW Bill was spot on about Heather and Abx. Both are clearly stalking horses and divisive distractions cooked up gods know who...


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[Carrie1971]

Originally Posted by K626

It seems pretty obvious to me that this site has drawn the attention of 'the dark side'. FWIW Bill was spot on about Heather and Abx. Both are clearly stalking horses and divisive distractions cooked up gods know who...


K.

I myself.... Can "get" that and it has had MORE THAN ONE dark side here from the start. When the "site went to pay to type" I thought oh well maybe that will keep it light. NO way in fact it got even worse.

Not to try and point out "cops" or other controler types but I just could not deal with it for a while there.

About the time Bill said "enough" to the radio station stuff was when it was really bad.

Sorry to see this happen. The love is lost. now it is about power.

Just do not let your soul get sucked into this mess.

[ellie]

Whatever.

[Anchor]

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[mkspllmn]

Originally Posted by ellie

Just watch me get banned now.

Do the mods see how everybody is afraid of getting banned on this forum?

The forum has been ruined!

[Anchor]

You have said nothing but extremely negative things about this forum all day from what I've been reading - note how you are still not banned nor censured?

We have come a long way.

A..

[mkspllmn]

Originally Posted by Anchor

You have said nothing but extremely negative things about this forum all day from what I've been reading - note how you are still not banned nor censured?

We have come a long way.

A..

Your point is well taken. Actually I do feel a little liberated.

However, I have also said some nice things.

Its really all about the truth, isn't it?

[Anchor]

mkspllmn: yes it is.

[Linda]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ellie

Just watch me get banned now.

Originally Posted by mkspllmn

Do the mods see how everybody is afraid of getting banned on this forum?

The forum has been ruined!

I was going to say the same thing.

There is a serious problem here about FREE speech.

If anybody was paying attention, Kerry was fighting for it.....

[Ross H]

Originally Posted by ellie

This forum has never ever had free speech. Hells, bells and little fishes it just hasn't alright. If someone with the power here said ban, then it was after a count of three mods in agreement.

Would you stop with the Kerri bashing for crying out loud. THIS is what happened.

Bill stepped in and said for reasons I will not say he wanted the Thuban thread stopped, someone then complained to Kerri about that and she then took the action because she has been about free speech, and to let you make up your own mind about stuff.

And THAT is the darn truth of it.

Just watch me get banned now.



GET real.

Go on take the bloody post off now push the bloody ban button.

Morons.

EGO of some people are beyond a bloody joke.

You are invited to leave here and pursue another forum that fits your requirments if you so wish. One where there are no ego's, but you may find that hard, as I do not know of such a place, and, you will have to tone down your own ego in order to fit in.

I wish you well in your pursuit.

Ross H.

[Karen]

[QUOTE=ellie;246667]

This forum has never ever had free speech. Hells, bells and little fishes it just hasn't alright. If someone with the power here said ban, then it was after a count of three mods in agreement.

This forum has guidelines. It is not a free for all zone. #1 is being respectful - please click the link at the bottom of this post and read our guidelines. Despite Kerry's belief in free speech, the guidelines do now allow for absolute free speech. People are banned for refusing to follow the guidelines, not for some frivolous arbitrary reason. People get warnings in private messages and through the infraction system, not on the public forum. And we do not wish to make a public spectacle of it. Are we always perfect at this - heck no. Usually people are banned for being incredibly rude.

Would you stop with the Kerri bashing for crying out loud. THIS is what happened.

Kerry has her strengths and her weaknesses, as we all do. For the last year and longer, project Avalon was to be Bill's domain because of the difference in opinion. And we will not all have the same opinion on Kerry's actions. I was shocked, but not surprised by the forum closure, and it caused me a tremendous amount of work without any warning. It was me who insisted that a message be put up to let the members know what was going on. And that took quite some time to run it through Kerry's approval, while everyone was wondering.

Bill stepped in and said for reasons I will not say he wanted the Thuban thread stopped, someone then complained to Kerri about that and she then took the action because she has been about free speech, and to let you make up your own mind about stuff.

True and now we finally have the division of Camelot from Avalon which was started over a year ago, where Bill was to take Avalon and the forum so the mods were not constantly caught in the middle of their differences. Bill prefers the forum be like a private party in your home. Come on in and have some fun - but please respect the house rules or leave. nothing too strict, just common courtesy and don't trash the place.

The Thuban issue was the greatest divisive issue I have seen on this forum. There will be a new guideline to handle this type of situation.

And THAT is the darn truth of it.
Just watch me get banned now.

Go on take the bloody post off now push the bloody ban button.
Morons.
EGO of some people are beyond a bloody joke.

No name calling. I'm going to give you a pass on this one with a warning. I sense some deeper frustrations here and I send you love and healing. I'm also going to leave your attitude right there for all to see. This forum is about building new communities and a new society. You can respectfully complain. We do listen.

[Anchor]

There will be a new guideline to handle this type of situation.

Glad you bought that up.

As a suggestion, you could seek volunteers for a steering group to help with a balanced set of new guidelines. Just an idea for you to knock around. If there was one I would happily consider signing up and contribute when my life allows me to do so.

A..

[Céline]

Guidelines are great tools in reaching Goals..

May i suggest , a suggestion box type thread?

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Glad you bought that up. As a suggestion, you could seek volunteers for a steering group to help with a balanced set of new guidelines. Just an idea for you to knock around. If there was one I would happily consider signing up and contribute when my life allows me to do so. A..

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