Abraxas has been enjoined and his group is closed Edited

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by beren

MP2

There is no absolute need at any moment in time that anyone persuade you in anything.
But I am afraid that you can't see the forest for the trees.

well no need to be afraid, Beren. I see just fine. demons just don't come around me anymore. My love seems to feel like holy water to them or something. You should have seen this mantis a while back. Ran away making whistling kettle sounds.

I'm talking discerning the real from the fantasy. Not "Ooh, I felt bad so it must have been the devil." What I don't get is why people insist on recreating these old tired games anymore. Just delaying the inevitable. I've already seen a couple of people state they felt attacked and related it to the Abrax connection. this is something we should know about. Anyone else?

[beren]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

well no need to be afraid, Beren. I see just fine. demons just don't come around me anymore. My love seems to feel like holy water to them or something. You should have seen this mantis a while back. Ran away making whistling kettle sounds.

I'm talking discerning the real from the fantasy. Not "Ooh, I felt bad so it must have been the devil." What I don't get is why people insist on recreating these old tired games anymore. Just delaying the inevitable. I've already seen a couple of people state they felt attacked and related it to the Abrax connection. this is something we should know about. Anyone else?

Listen, I understand your point of view but you can not put away demons by thinking that your love must have ousted them.
It does not work that way.

Yes Love is the main weapon against them and no holy water helps. Neither garlic,crosses,icons,pastor prayers or anything that we might imagine.
Only living Creator can help.Only with his spirit they can be ousted.

No mumbo jumbo I love you type of stuff helps.

You can say to them that you are in love and light and that your frequency is higher and that you beat them with your love...
They will laugh in your face and then slam you hard.

In order to beat the enemy you have to know the real weapon against them.
That is why I said that you got to align yourself with truth, you got to humble yourself down before Creator . Then you will be protected. No way around.

If you feel that they don`t attack you well fine. That is good. But stop occasionally and think that maybe they know your reasoning and your thinking that you know better. Then you`re already deceived. Then they leave you alone.

Listen ,I am not accusing.
But think again since this struggle we`re all in has many dimensions .For some physical and for some dimensional. But do not be "wise guy" to think that just because you can `t see them ,they do not exist.
Can you see force of gravity?
No.
But if you jump from 20 stories building you will painfully find out that it actually exist. Then it may be too late since ground will not forgive your ignorance.

Think again, re evaluate, test every spirit.

And quit mocking other people here. It is not decent .

[THE eXchanger]

beren- your way, isn't the only way

if their way works for them,
so, be it, it might just work for another

just as, your way, may work for you,
so, be it, it might just work for another

there are 101 routes that can be taken up any mountain,
and/or heading down into the valley

isn't it time,
everyone respected everyone
for their contributions, and, for their efforts,
to make PA/PC the fabulous place,
that iT is ???

the sum total here,
HOLDS the potential to turn into
a grand 'SEE' of MAGNIFICENCE

[beren]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

beren- your way, isn't the only way

if their way works for them,
so, be it, it might just work for another

just as, your way, may work for you,
so, be it, it might just work for another

there are 101 routes that can be taken up any mountain,
and/or heading down into the valley

isn't it time,
everyone respected everyone
for their contributions, and, for their efforts,
to make PA/PC the fabulous place,
that iT is ???

the sum total here,
HOLDS the potential to turn into
a grand 'SEE' of MAGNIFICENCE

When did I said it was my way?

Where do you find in my posts that I propagate my ways at all?
Thing is that people were attacked quite literary.
Now some here wish to diminish that attack by stating that actually all that was in our minds and lalallallaaa...

I will repeat again from post below...

NO FREAKIN WAY!

I know what struck me and it seems many stated similar things too.


Exchanger you can do whatever you like and believe whatever you like. You can write in codes as you do write. You can play with numerology and hisss in abraxas`s thread as you did it.
You can call that enlightenment .

I will not.

And please why do you write "we" when sometimes you write here?
And sometimes " I ".

Do not pose for somebody else. Do not sound as you are smarter than others as I feel that from your posts. I appreciate you as human being but what do you try to do here?

What is your aim?

Who speak in codes?

Is it 3 or 33 ?

Who speaks like that?
And then you jump and say "Avalon is a loving place ,sharing love and beauty..."
I don`t see that in your way of expressing.
Again I respect you as a human being.
But I would like to feel and see more of your respect of everybody else.

If you wish to claim truth ,love, wisdom and light, justice and compassion ,then you have to surrender yourself to them.
NO hisssing , and Dragon boot licking or coding ,or false knowledge can or will help you in your path.

And one final question for you;

On what side you are on?

Dragon or human?

Speak quickly and spare me of "Love and light singing fairies".

In respect ,

Beren

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by beren

On what side you are on?

Dragon or human?
Speak quickly and spare me of "Love and light singing fairies".
In respect ,
Beren

dear beren,
is your form of questioning; polite/or, even respectful ?
never-the-less, we will answer your questions
we are NOT on any side, and, we are NOT a dragon,
& what on earth, does light and singing fairies,
have to do, with the price of eggs ???

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by beren

Listen, I understand your point of view but you can not put away demons by thinking that your love must have ousted them.
It does not work that way.

Yes Love is the main weapon against them and no holy water helps. Neither garlic,crosses,icons,pastor prayers or anything that we might imagine.
Only living Creator can help.Only with his spirit they can be ousted.

No mumbo jumbo I love you type of stuff helps.

You can say to them that you are in love and light and that your frequency is higher and that you beat them with your love...
They will laugh in your face and then slam you hard.

In order to beat the enemy you have to know the real weapon against them.
That is why I said that you got to align yourself with truth, you got to humble yourself down before Creator . Then you will be protected. No way around.

If you feel that they don`t attack you well fine. That is good. But stop occasionally and think that maybe they know your reasoning and your thinking that you know better. Then you`re already deceived. Then they leave you alone.

Listen ,I am not accusing.
But think again since this struggle we`re all in has many dimensions .For some physical and for some dimensional. But do not be "wise guy" to think that just because you can `t see them ,they do not exist.
Can you see force of gravity?
No.
But if you jump from 20 stories building you will painfully find out that it actually exist. Then it may be too late since ground will not forgive your ignorance.

Think again, re evaluate, test every spirit.

And quit mocking other people here. It is not decent .

Well you didn't understand, my comments, Beren. I'm not saying I thought I loved them away. I'm telling you what happened. I was attacked by this creature, and I remembered the advice of one of my guides, to use frequency matching. It attacks with low frequency, and I answer with high frequency, It could not match, it so fled. I wasn't thinking happy thoughts. I loved this creature, and it was scared spitless by the encounter.

And It didn't come looking for me. I was exploring and stumbled into it's domain.

You take your stories too literally. They make so little of us, and so much of other forces. There is no God which requires us to humble ourselves in order to obtain protection. A fairy tale. At least in my universe. It may be different in yours. And you are welcome to live in that universe all you like. And make believe warriors can live in their dungeons and dragons world all they like. And nobody is bothered by this, as long as you don't come and say this world of battles in heaven and evil demons is real for me, and as long as armchair dragon slayer doesn't say we are all in some battle for our souls. Because although these differing realities may be able to intersect, they are not ubiquitous.They are simply separate but temporarily overlapped. And people can choose which one they occupy and play in. That is the entirely of my message. People have choice over which reality they play in. People like you and Lionhawk want to tell people their reality is THE reality, and thats just a steaming pile.

I talk to God, and God talks back to me. In fact God started it, not me. And God is not like your posts describe. At least not in my universe. My God agrees with me. That I have complete choice, always and in all things. You should visit my God. You'd like Her/him.

[bigmo]

First time I've heard you speak up so much eXchanger... (without numbers) keep it up it's sounding good.

Peace

[beren]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Well you didn't understand, my comments, Beren. I'm not saying I thought I loved them away. I'm telling you what happened. I was attacked by this creature, and I remembered the advice of one of my guides, to use frequency matching. It attacks with low frequency, and I answer with high frequency, It could not match, it so fled. I wasn't thinking happy thoughts. I loved this creature, and it was scared spitless by the encounter.

And It didn't come looking for me. I was exploring and stumbled into it's domain.

You take your stories too literally. They make so little of us, and so much of other forces. There is no God which requires us to humble ourselves in order to obtain protection. A fairy tale. At least in my universe. It may be different in yours. And you are welcome to live in that universe all you like. And make believe warriors can live in their dungeons and dragons world all they like. And nobody is bothered by this, as long as you don't come and say this world of battles in heaven and evil demons is real for me, and as long as armchair dragon slayer doesn't say we are all in some battle for our souls. Because although these differing realities may be able to intersect, they are not ubiquitous.They are simply separate but temporarily overlapped. And people can choose which one they occupy and play in. That is the entirely of my message. People have choice over which reality they play in. People like you and Lionhawk want to tell people their reality is THE reality, and thats just a steaming pile.

I talk to God, and God talks back to me. In fact God started it, not me. And God is not like your posts describe. At least not in my universe. My God agrees with me. That I have complete choice, always and in all things. You should visit my God. You'd like Her/him.

I understood you well.
Trust me I don`t take things literary.

And for the end of this conversation you just marvelously said it at the end of your reply. Your God agrees with you. Beautiful. You are your self`s god.
You chose to live in your bubble and I respect your choice.

You have exercised your free will, now you live with it.

Good luck with that.

With respect,

Beren

[bigmo]

Talk about attacking Beren... I've never read a post by you that wasn't attacking or pointing fingers at the heathen who are doomed to hells eternal fires.

Peace to YOU

Bigmo

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by bigmo

Talk about attacking Beren... I've never read a post by you that wasn't attacking or pointing fingers at the heathen who are doomed to hells eternal fires.

Peace to YOU

Bigmo

well Bigmo, I understand where he is coming from better than most.

I can tell you this, if I went in to cleanse Abraxa/demon...

he is the one I would want standing beside me for protection, because he understands exactly what I would be dealing with.

there is tons of money following this forum so put the money up and bring us together in a central location.

Give us the recording equipment and I guarantee you would be able to hear the possessor of this man as we rip it out of him.

It is not audible to normal human perceptions but recording equipment will pick it up.

you all want to get freaked out...

what you will all hear is something that makes the scariest movies ever made seem like a nursery rhyme...

[ellie]

If that is the case then he does need help. As I said probably got caught by something when he tried to meet with his daughter on the other side through extreme grief.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by ellie

If that is the case then he does need help. As I said probably got caught by something when he tried to meet with his daughter on the other side through extreme grief.

You can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped, he has given his soul freely.

I would want to hear him say he believes...

If those words can't cross his lips he can't be saved, or I guess I should say he doesn't "want" to be saved from the evil he has given himself over to.

[ellie]

I am sure Jesus would want to help him still, right Beren?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by ellie

I am sure Jesus would want to help him still, right Beren?

Well part of his condition is in what he was taught anyone that takes their own soul is condemned.

When he opened himself up and said take me to my daughter he was convinced he knew where to find her...

The truth is there are many factors behind why someone took their life...

and he was looking the wrong direction for his little angel...

[ellie]

Your right there Rocky, he would not have found his daughter in hell, that is a myth IMHO that people are condemned to hell if they take their own life.

God himself knows what pain they are in and what is going on and he knows that in that instant they do this they are not in their right mind.

It is just religious dogma that dictates that and it is wrong IMO.

I just can't help feel empathy for him if this was the case so I am going to ask my Lord and the angels and St Michael to help him.

I would want someone to help me.

[bigmo]

Originally Posted by ellie

Your right there Rocky, he would not have found his daughter in hell, that is a myth IMHO that people are condemned to hell if they take their own life.

God himself knows what pain they are in and what is going on and he knows that in that instant they do this they are not in their right mind.

It is just religious dogma that dictates that and it is wrong IMO.

I just can't help feel empathy for him if this was the case so I am going to ask my Lord and the angels and St Michael to help him.

I would want someone to help me.

That is such a sweet thought ellie with such kind intent!

Peace and Love to you ellie

[Steven]

Originally Posted by ellie

Your right there Rocky, he would not have found his daughter in hell, that is a myth IMHO that people are condemned to hell if they take their own life.

God himself knows what pain they are in and what is going on and he knows that in that instant they do this they are not in their right mind.

It is just religious dogma that dictates that and it is wrong IMO.

I just can't help feel empathy for him if this was the case so I am going to ask my Lord and the angels and St Michael to help him.

I would want someone to help me.

Totally true. A myth... I can write pages about it. The only judge is yourself, even Creator/Creation itself will not judge you, if so, then no other being can do so other than you. The sad part of this myth is that it is well rooted into our consciousness.

Namaste, Steven

[orthodoxymoron]

After reading nearly 20 pages of ranting and raving (some of it is mine)...I have absolutely no doubt as to why Earth is under quarantine.

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

After reading nearly 20 pages of ranting and raving (some of it is mine)...I have absolutely no doubt as to why Earth is under quarantine.

hahahahaaa... thanks ODM

[beren]

Originally Posted by ellie

I am sure Jesus would want to help him still, right Beren?

Yes, but since he got free will , he must ask for help in the first place.
Like Rocky said it.

To sum it up, it is Creator's wish that everyone be saved and enlightened.
But he also gave us free will and along with that consequences of our wishes and deeds.

No one can ask for help from Almighty unless he humbles him/herself before him.
If someone does not realize that, well Creator will allow according to the wish of the person. Or by the acts of their ego and pride.
If someones is too proud to see that we are CREATED and not omnipotent, well that is theirs problem.

And for the record here for some ,
I do not speak for any religion or any cult or any organization.
I stand behind my words and deeds.

The only thing that I speak of is the truth,Heavenly father and Jesus Christ.
If someone has a problem with that,it is just that-their problem.

I do not channel information, I do not have mentors, I do not quote various human sources (though many are valid),I do not interpret dreams not do I have visions like some claim here.

Everything I need comes from the source of the life itself and all knowledge, love and truth,wisdom and power-The Almighty Creator of the universe. His only begotten son is my king -Jesus Christ.

Again if anyone has a problem with that, it is their problem.
I do not judge anyone or curse anyone,it is not in my power to do so.
I can only show the truth if asked or confronted. I can love and am doing so. I will fight deception tooth and nail because it stands as a veil over humanity to enslave us forever.

Therefore I use my free will to do that.

For the conclusion here I will mention to those ranting and complaining of the free will.
Yes everyone has a right do do everything. Abraxasinas has a right to voice his opinions. I never said that he should be banned.
But the spirit behind Abraxas ,when started to attack, I stood against.
And I will always since it invaded MY free will zone with wish to harm and destroy me.

Then how can anyone claim his free will and when he got it ,and attack others and THEN experience defending form attacked party, then it whines and screams FREE WILL, FREE WILL...

Why did you at the beginning invade my free will?
You are using your free will to attack others?

Then you will be fought over that.

NO whining helps.

Blessings to all who are trying to BE.

Beren

[Stardustaquarion]

Anchor I could upload a file on energy sensing but don't know how to access the library. I think it will be useful for every body

Love

[burgundia]

..Why don't we burn somebody at the stake???

PS...I love all your posts here MP2...

[Connecting with Sauce]

I skipped from page 12 to 22... Did I miss anything? Sorry I got bored...

The deleted thread is a available... All someone has to do is ask the right person, it is achived off Avalon somewhere...

I'd be interested in the protection / sensing enegy book to have a browse through so I can do some work on myself... That is all I gathered from page 1-12 is that quite a few still have issues to work though, we all do...

Is there any way I can get my hours back I wasted reading the 12 pages?

[SteveX]

Ha ah… The Thuban thread is back up as a read only. That should satisfy all… one would think. Seems Mr. Tony B is to remain banned. He must have been a naughty boy in the real world as the real man. I remind you he did say he was no longer the Thuban messenger. Does that then mean the Thuban messenger (Abrax) had higher morals Hahaha. The human Mr. Tony B let his side down it seems Hahaha

I would hope the Cotton Wool brigade could sheath their metaphoric God / Light sabres now. Pull the drawstring on the cotton wool bag until YOUR next perceived baddy turns up. Or maybe you are itching to dab certain forum members down with astringent, cleans the skin ready to apply a new layer of make up. Cover up the cracks of curiosity; pluck the eyelashes of free will, gloss up the lips of expression. All in the name of others, making it look prettier in YOUR dollhouse. I can feel the urges already.

Yer! that was a bit of a dig but in the words of Brook, who can't see the irony within herself, I chose to express the hypocrisy I see in here.

.

Originally Posted by BROOK

[B][I]
People do certainly have the right to discuss things....and I claim the right..her and now.

Perhaps we can all get on with what ever it is we’re getting on with. There is now a happy medium between the offended and the free choice. Those offended by the Thuban thread should take charge of their voyeuristic tendencies to stop harming themselves by reading the thing. Those for free choice can read the words, blag, message, metaphor or what ever you assign it from Mr. Tony B.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by SteveX

Ha ah… The Thuban thread is back up as a read only. That should satisfy all… one would think. Seems Mr. Tony B is to remain banned. He must have been a naughty boy in the real world as the real man. I remind you he did say he was no longer the Thuban messenger. Does that then mean the Thuban messenger (Abrax) had higher morals Hahaha. The human Mr. Tony B let his side down it seems Hahaha

I would hope the Cotton Wool brigade could sheath their metaphoric God / Light sabres now. Pull the drawstring on the cotton wool bag until YOUR next perceived baddy turns up. Or maybe you are itching to dab certain forum members down with astringent, cleans the skin ready to apply a new layer of make up. Cover up the cracks of curiosity; pluck the eyelashes of free will, gloss up the lips of expression. All in the name of others, making it look prettier in YOUR dollhouse. I can feel the urges already.

Yer! that was a bit of a dig but in the words of Brook, who can't see the irony within herself, I chose to express the hypocrisy I see in here.

.

Perhaps we can all get on with what ever it is we’re getting on with. There is now a happy medium between the offended and the free choice. Those offended by the Thuban thread should take charge of their voyeuristic tendencies to stop harming themselves by reading the thing. Those for free choice can read the words, blag, message, metaphor or what ever you assign it from Mr. Tony B.

Artful digging. impressive.

But I can't see much of anything satisfied by reopening the thread again, read only, or open for discussion. That was never my issue. I wanted to know what grounds founded the actions taken. We still don't know, and the story seems to be taking a little migration. The original announcement mentioned complaints of Sexual harassment. The current announcement accompanying the restoration of the thread, mentions only some posting in the social group as grounds for maintaining the ban, which last I checked, was still gone from view. So we still can't review the basis upon which the witch got himself hunted down and dealt with by the villagers.

And none of which detracts from your artful digging. (can somebody help me put reigns on my eyes? they go where ever they please, with no direction from moi.)