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Old 09-25-2008, 10:46 PM   #1
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the jury is still out for me on this one. didnt resonate with me to put it mildly. she might be a very sincere person with no bad intentions..but:

this seems like more future blonde nordics coming back in time and talking to blonde people of german heritage (she said her mom was full german)
lets see, nordics seem to like to talk to..micheal st clair (teutonic heritage same as germans) and billy meier (swiss same as st clair) or people in finance (george green)

i still cant shake that they seem like enlightened nazi's from a future timeline where the illuminati get their wish of a master race and a slave class (the greys, which as she said led her to the blondes -kinda like a slave going out and fetching something for the owner..)

i think ill believe them when i see some future puerto ricans or enlightened black people in funky robes with big afros come back with the same message and talk to someone not of german/teutonic descent.

why dont we have red or purple aliens telling us this info or more bizzare or light/energy beings? theres probably thousands of species watching us, why are their only greys and blondes interfering with us, at least in this manner?
and if you believe dan burisch and that they are from the future why didnt BLONDES come back and help us first? my idea is that the blondes might be the "masters" and the greys the biorobotic "slaves" or servants. my guess is that maybe the slaves came back to prevent the nordics from ruling in a benevolent gesture, then the "masters" caught up with them in our present and took over the job of making SURE we create their future.

also the contactees that speak with "energy beings" report they talk more about "ascension" and spirituality etc. not forgone cataclysms.
dr steven greer's contacts apparantly are all sorts of races on the same ship and none of them identifies where or "whom" they are or what they are to be called.
he certainly is more credible in my eyes especially since he is now spearheading private sector zero-point energy which could literally transform our world to be more in harmony without having to depopulate the globe.

besides id rather believe in him and what he's doing as opposed to people telling us the "end" is near and to head for the hills. didnt marcia schafer say that her contacts say there might be different realities for different individuals. which would mean YOU or on YOUR timeline based largely on where your at spiritually and what you believe is in store for you.
she also said "live for life, dont live for death" which is what "radiant" zones and safe places seem like (a place to live in fear of doom or at least EXPECT doom)

jim jones had positive things to say and harmonious spiritual things, but he too preached end times and obviously we all know what happened to him and his followers, for me im not drinking this particular kool-aid.


food for thought.

if they come here and plant the thought of our destruction, surely we can all be worried about it and consciously co create it.

for now im not buying any of these nordic messages on the face value that theyre good (remember hitler was a vegetarian...you can still be enlightened and have an agenda)

i also didnt buy the planets origin and that blonde haired blue eyed people created us and that they were bummed out with their failed experiments (grotesque creatures=dinosaurs? theyre no more grotesque than anything else, im supposed to believe they sat around for 60 million years hoping they turned into something worthy?) also her messianic "the world will know when i do" ..really? the world will know when you dig up something you buried when you were a kid? c'mon...i think she of course had many many truths and positive things to say (again so did jim jones) theres just too many red flags going off for me on this one.

-kyle

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Old 09-25-2008, 11:05 PM   #2
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I believe she believes her information, but for me she definitely didnt resonate like many of the other Camelot interviewees.

I'm not entirely sure as the benevolence of the blondes.

I think her overall message is definitely a positive one, but there were some details that just got skipped over that had a darker tone to them (i.e., the horrific underground bases that she was told was VERY dangerous for her to go). I mean thats on earth, our planet, so tell us the whole truth.

A lot of info though so maybe an oversight.

And the seeds piece was definitely something that needed to be mentioned. To me, this was the single most important part of this interview.

Please be sure and buy "heirloom" seeds and not "hybridized" seeds. The hybridized seeds will not produce fertile seeds at all. Think that was on purpose?

I will look for some links and post here again.

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Old 09-25-2008, 11:15 PM   #3
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OK, a couple of things:
I saw the interview on youtube: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ4Q1jKTNVI
that works all the way thru.
As in all interviews of this kind, I pick and choose to keep in my knowledge bag what I think is relevent to me.
For me, asking entities/aliens/spirits to look at me in the eye and know that I can decide after that if I want to continue the "conversation" was a great revelation. You realize the power you have, I mean its just so easy to get flabergasted and "weak" when confronted to this. I myself have never had these experiences but Im sure it would be easy to get "starstruck".

Also, the fact that lots of humans on earth right now have some previledged knowledge and that we should get together when the time is right was great news.
Lastly, the seeds issue for me was the best part. I see this inspiring me to start something about that idea, maybe a co-op of some sort that has one goal and that would be to have a group of people get together to produce seeds and be self sufficient in vegetables also. I will have to start and educate myself about producing seeds and growing vegetables.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:24 PM   #4
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For me, asking entities/aliens/spirits to look at me in the eye and know that I can decide after that if I want to continue the "conversation" was a great revelation. You realize the power you have, I mean its just so easy to get flabergasted and "weak" when confronted to this. I myself have never had these experiences but Im sure it would be easy to get "starstruck".
Yes that was a valuable sugestion she shared I agree. The eyes are the doorway to the soul. Another Contactee Alex Collier was told that you need to claim your personal space when dealing with any being that isn't human and demand that they respect it and if you don't trust them to tell them to leave your space and mean it. Not so easy to do when in the moment but important to understand for anyone who may be thrust into that expierence.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:11 AM   #5
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Yes that was a valuable sugestion she shared I agree. The eyes are the doorway to the soul. Another Contactee Alex Collier was told that you need to claim your personal space when dealing with any being that isn't human and demand that they respect it and if you don't trust them to tell them to leave your space and mean it. Not so easy to do when in the moment but important to understand for anyone who may be thrust into that expierence.
my thoughts one this subject were; would'nt a sincere, spiritual being not always look into your eyes if speaking to you, and give space?

btw, i did notice her sanpakueyes too. and i see the points clarkkent is mentioning.

anyway, respect and appreciation, de message resonated.
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Hey All,

Just finished watching the interview and my thoughts kind of kept going back to ... believe it not ... David Wilcock. I think it was in the Futuretalk video (where DW was wearing that gold sash or whatever) he mentioned that Project Camelot seems to draw a lot of negative energy (through no fault of their own) in the interviews they conduct.

Don't get me wrong--this was an excellent and professionally conducted interview, but I was forced to walk away with that doom and gloom vibration which just doesn't augur too well with me anymore. I absolutely believe people like George Green and Miriam Delicado or Alex Jones believe the things they uncover, but the idea of this "world calamity ... we're all going to be burnt alive in an agonizing Armageddon" just doesn't feel right. (I would HIGHLY RECCOMMEND watching the channeled messages of a British lady named 'MagentaPixie2012' on youtube).

Project Camelot should actually take this as a compliment because it means whatever higher beings are manipulating cosmic consciousness are purposefully targeting Bill and Kerry in order to make their audience (which is growing by leaps and bounds pretty much daily) to: LIVE IN FEAR.

And if I may be so bold as to say: THE ALIENS THEMSELVES MIGHT BE WRONG. So what if some Nordic ET from a far-off place in the Milky Way "sees" world calamity (?) ... ... for all we know ... Sven from Nordic-ville might be wrong himself. The take-home message from Ra and the Collective Entity of 9 Winged Beings which have been channeling through MagentaPixie, plus the newest Burish testimony all point to the hopless Armageddon scenario timeline hovering near a probability of zero. And I think I orient myself toward these messages.
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Hey All,

Just finished watching the interview and my thoughts kind of kept going back to ... believe it not ... David Wilcock. I think it was in the Futuretalk video (where DW was wearing that gold sash or whatever) he mentioned that Project Camelot seems to draw a lot of negative energy (through no fault of their own) in the interviews they conduct.

Don't get me wrong--this was an excellent and professionally conducted interview, but I was forced to walk away with that doom and gloom vibration which just doesn't augur too well with me anymore. I absolutely believe people like George Green and Miriam Delicado or Alex Jones believe the things they uncover, but the idea of this "world calamity ... we're all going to be burnt alive in an agonizing Armageddon" just doesn't feel right. (I would HIGHLY RECCOMMEND watching the channeled messages of a British lady named 'MagentaPixie2012' on youtube).

Project Camelot should actually take this as a compliment because it means whatever higher beings are manipulating cosmic consciousness are purposefully targeting Bill and Kerry in order to make their audience (which is growing by leaps and bounds pretty much daily) to: LIVE IN FEAR.

And if I may be so bold as to say: THE ALIENS THEMSELVES MIGHT BE WRONG. So what if some Nordic ET from a far-off place in the Milky Way "sees" world calamity (?) ... ... for all we know ... Sven from Nordic-ville might be wrong himself. The take-home message from Ra and the Collective Entity of 9 Winged Beings which have been channeling through MagentaPixie, plus the newest Burish testimony all point to the hopless Armageddon scenario timeline hovering near a probability of zero. And I think I orient myself toward these messages.
I understand you completly and realized some people have "********" stories to try and make people move, this i do NOT agree with and even more so i dislike greatly when someone uses Bill and Kerrys platform to spread doom and gloom. We have seen it enough and think we understand something is coming in the future, i see alot of people from wide aspects to narrow minded but i have a feeling if we ALL were together it would be magical.

I would love to meet many people on this forum and all of us sit back and talk (imagine that hahaha!) we would have so much information and experince to share with each other... What it comes down to is who will fight each other? Will an Objectivist battle a Lightseeker just to fofill his Philosophy? I know i sure wouldnt if we all could get along.

Harmony is over used within the fields we speak, we simply need to leave doom gloom and even harmony for they are just words to spark us, what is real is when we all stand together for the better cause of us all.

Alex Jones is a percfect example of someone helping the wrong way... yes he has some good information and ideas but his attitude is much to... raging. Lets just all be pals and stick together.

Id catch you a fish anyday
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I must disagree with a lot of you people here saying that Miriam is trying to spread a message of doom and gloom or of fear or that he story is incencere.
Yes, I also had a hard time with her in the first few minutes of the interview and yes she is not perfect and she might not speak so well as others and obviously she has had a hard and strange life and she is as we say - just human.
She does have a very strong eyes and she seems to me like a very old and strong being - sometimes hard to take! but with pure and good intentions imo!

I dont think one must take this interview "word by word" and
when one takes this interview and peel the "shell" off , the core that is being revealed is , in my opinion, absolutely a strong , important message (of good!)
I was pretty overwhelmed by her words towards the end and also when we talked about the gathering of similiar people!

as for the whole nordic & grays thing - it mght be important but is that what really matters right now?

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I must disagree with a lot of you people here saying that Miriam is trying to spread a message of doom and gloom or of fear or that he story is incencere.
Yes, I also had a hard time with her in the first few minutes of the interview and yes she is not perfect and obviously she has had a hard and strange life and she is as we say - just human.
She does have a very strong eyes and she seems to me like a very old and strong being - sometimes hard to take! but with pure and good intentions imo!

I dont think one must take this interview "word by word" and
when one takes this interview and peel the "shell" off , the core that is being revealed is , in my opinion, absolutely a strong , important message (of good!)
I was pretty overwhelmed by her words towards the end and also when we talked about the gathering of similiar people!

as for the whole nordic & grays thing - it mght be important but is that what really matters right now?
It matters because if they are negative, they could be creating a mentality in us that creates the worst scenario...I think we are creating all these events with belief and expectation...and who better to manipulate but the most intuitive of the bunch.
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It matters because if they are negative, they could be creating a mentality in us that creates the worst scenario...I think we are creating all these events with belief and expectation...and who better to manipulate but the most intuitive of the bunch.
and its up to us to believe and excpect a positive outcome even though!
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the jury is still out for me on this one. didnt resonate with me to put it mildly. she might be a very sincere person with no bad intentions..but:

this seems like more future blonde nordics coming back in time and talking to blonde people of german heritage (she said her mom was full german)
lets see, nordics seem to like to talk to..micheal st clair (teutonic heritage same as germans) and billy meier (swiss same as st clair) or people in finance (george green)

i still cant shake that they seem like enlightened nazi's from a future timeline where the illuminati get their wish of a master race and a slave class (the greys, which as she said led her to the blondes -kinda like a slave going out and fetching something for the owner..)

i think ill believe them when i see some future puerto ricans or enlightened black people in funky robes with big afros come back with the same message and talk to someone not of german/teutonic descent.

why dont we have red or purple aliens telling us this info or more bizzare or light/energy beings? theres probably thousands of species watching us, why are their only greys and blondes interfering with us, at least in this manner?
and if you believe dan burisch and that they are from the future why didnt BLONDES come back and help us first? my idea is that the blondes might be the "masters" and the greys the biorobotic "slaves" or servants. my guess is that maybe the slaves came back to prevent the nordics from ruling in a benevolent gesture, then the "masters" caught up with them in our present and took over the job of making SURE we create their future.

also the contactees that speak with "energy beings" report they talk more about "ascension" and spirituality etc. not forgone cataclysms.
dr steven greer's contacts apparantly are all sorts of races on the same ship and none of them identifies where or "whom" they are or what they are to be called.
he certainly is more credible in my eyes especially since he is now spearheading private sector zero-point energy which could literally transform our world to be more in harmony without having to depopulate the globe.

besides id rather believe in him and what he's doing as opposed to people telling us the "end" is near and to head for the hills. didnt marcia schafer say that her contacts say there might be different realities for different individuals. which would mean YOU or on YOUR timeline based largely on where your at spiritually and what you believe is in store for you.
she also said "live for life, dont live for death" which is what "radiant" zones and safe places seem like (a place to live in fear of doom or at least EXPECT doom)

jim jones had positive things to say and harmonious spiritual things, but he too preached end times and obviously we all know what happened to him and his followers, for me im not drinking this particular kool-aid.


food for thought.

if they come here and plant the thought of our destruction, surely we can all be worried about it and consciously co create it.

for now im not buying any of these nordic messages on the face value that theyre good (remember hitler was a vegetarian...you can still be enlightened and have an agenda)

i also didnt buy the planets origin and that blonde haired blue eyed people created us and that they were bummed out with their failed experiments (grotesque creatures=dinosaurs? theyre no more grotesque than anything else, im supposed to believe they sat around for 60 million years hoping they turned into something worthy?) also her messianic "the world will know when i do" ..really? the world will know when you dig up something you buried when you were a kid? c'mon...i think she of course had many many truths and positive things to say (again so did jim jones) theres just too many red flags going off for me on this one.

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Not to worry. I'm sure that the Yugoslavian side will balance all of that out.
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im surprised more people arent taken aback with all the "coincidences" ive pointed out, not that i have great insight, but is noone else dumbfounded with these facts about "nordic blondes" or "P52 orions" or that she even said what i theorized about the greys as being more "like robots"

isnt ANYONE wigged out that blondehaired blueeyed beings are feeding info to certain contactees from a certain genetic backround? (swiss or german)

does NO ONE find it odd that the illuminati/nazi's have envisioned this exact master race/servant relationship? svali the illumunati defector has also said they play "concentration camp" as kids and have killed minorities at times in their rituals.

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Michael Mott describes the attributes of the underground people. Mostly Reptilian humanoids or " fair " and Nordic: They are telepathic with superior mental powers. Can shape-shift and create illusions: They want to interbreed with humans and need human blood, flesh and reproductive materials; They have advanced technology, they can FLY by themselves or with their technology, want to keep their true idenity a secret, they covertly manipulate events on the surface world.

Hitler said this to an aide: "in the future there will be a class of overlords, after them the rank and file of the party members in hierarchical order, and the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers in perpetuity, and beneath them again all the conquered foreign races, the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new and exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak. The new man is living among us now. I will tell you a secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him."



i have heard no decent theories to explain any of my questions, most people just ignore what im saying.
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im surprised more people arent taken aback with all the "coincidences" ive pointed out, not that i have great insight, but is noone else dumbfounded with these facts about "nordic blondes" or "P52 orions" or that she even said what i theorized about the greys as being more "like robots"

isnt ANYONE wigged out that blondehaired blueeyed beings are feeding info to certain contactees from a certain genetic backround? (swiss or german)

does NO ONE find it odd that the illuminati/nazi's have envisioned this exact master race/servant relationship? svali the illumunati defector has also said they play "concentration camp" as kids and have killed minorities at times in their rituals.

i copied and pasted this

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Michael Mott describes the attributes of the underground people. Mostly Reptilian humanoids or " fair " and Nordic: They are telepathic with superior mental powers. Can shape-shift and create illusions: They want to interbreed with humans and need human blood, flesh and reproductive materials; They have advanced technology, they can FLY by themselves or with their technology, want to keep their true idenity a secret, they covertly manipulate events on the surface world.

Hitler said this to an aide: "in the future there will be a class of overlords, after them the rank and file of the party members in hierarchical order, and the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers in perpetuity, and beneath them again all the conquered foreign races, the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new and exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak. The new man is living among us now. I will tell you a secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him."



i have heard no decent theories to explain any of my questions, most people just ignore what im saying.
The question is when can we trust and rely on each other? Take the Aliens out of the equation for a second-if there are both benign and malevolent forces at work from other places/dimensions etc then ok what can we do??

Living in fear of men and/or et's is not the answer. The personal responsibility message is the key, do that. We all die. If something really major and difficult needs to happen to wake us up to who we are, then so be it. I would rather that happen than slouching along at this rate, while we poison ourselves slowly with materialism and war. Regardless of what any whistleblower has to say, I personally will not allow myself to be fearful-it serves no purpose other than to delay the dream of becoming. Eff that.

I'm very grateful for this forum, it is making it possible to network and get inspired to get ready for the changes that are happening all around us. Let's not ride the fear train. Self-fulfilling prophesy and all that.
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I'll start by saying that although I do believe in ET's, I disbelieve 95% of the stuff that's floating around out there concerning our otherworldy companions, most of this information is either rehashed or seems to have no real foundation whatsoever, so in this case I guess you could say I'mma tough sell.

I wasn't sold with this interview either, before I lay out the reasons why, I just want to say quickly that I don't mean to stir any angry emotions in anyone here, I'm just giving my personal opinion. I respect anyone elses opinions and I also respect Mariam. Now, onto the reasons:

Mariam started off with excuses about how she doesn't want to be doing this disclosure so to speak.
A genuine messenger would not care what others believed because if they know, in their heart of hearts, that they're speaking the truth. Whats to fear? A person who is truly “spiritual” for lack of a better term, and who's speaking 100% truth would have no quams about how others would judge them. Especially if the message was of great importance.


On an emotional level, I just didn't get any feelings of genuine compassion from the speaker. Infact I picked up a lot of arrogant undertones due to many statements such as “no one is perfect, not even myself”, or “even I have problems with this stuff”. These type of statements tend to suggest she raises herself above “normal” people. Having a high opinion of oneself is important, but should never be based on comparison of others.


Finaly, nothing new was said that can't be found somewhere on the internet or in books. Nothing truly genuine. Of course this does not mean that she is not being honest, it's just a fact.

Despite this I do think Mariam is a great person at the end of the day, she had a positive message, aside from the scary nazi blonde hair blue eye resonance as others picked up on, and she does not mean to portray any truly menevolent harm that I detected.

I think the best lesson to be learned from all of these interviews, is we should never take anyones word or views as absolute truth. That's something we must experience on a personal level.

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also to make a clear point--im not saying germans=nazi's
i dont know how anyone could get that from what ive posted.

i just find it INTERESTING that these blondies seem to contact people of germanic/teutonic descent.

and i certainly dont fear "nordic blondes" im just saying we all have access to a LOT of info, and these are the dots that im connecting regarding nordics-greys-nazis-illuminati-timelines-future selves-disasters etc.

i didnt see anyone else bringing up these points so i thought i would. and still i havent heard a decent theory to knock mine, i would WELCOME it, because if something made sense to me that refutes or answers these seeming coincidences that would be comforting.

even bill who im sure is more aware than most of us in this field said my questions were hard for him to answer, but id love to hear his 2 cents!


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I just finished watching this vid... The message she was 'given' resonated with me greatly... I was given a large flood of information almost identical to her's in 1991, although, I didn't receive it on board a space craft. My experience was more telepathic in nature and happened in my livingroom .. I've heard all the stories about the tall Nordics and their collusion with the greys etc... In my remembrance, I've never seen or communicated with a tall blond. When she talked about families being monitored for many generations (forever?) it gave me a cold chill... I'm a life long abductee and so are my kids and their kids...

This whole thing need to be re-evaluated... speaking for my own personal experiences...
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I just finished watching this vid... The message she was 'given' resonated with me greatly... I was given a large flood of information almost identical to her's in 1991, although, I didn't receive it on board a space craft. My experience was more telepathic in nature and happened in my livingroom .. I've heard all the stories about the tall Nordics and their collusion with the greys etc... In my remembrance, I've never seen or communicated with a tall blond. When she talked about families being monitored for many generations (forever?) it gave me a cold chill... I'm a life long abductee and so are my kids and their kids...

This whole thing need to be re-evaluated... speaking for my own personal experiences...
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I'll start by saying that although I do believe in ET's, I disbelieve 95% of the stuff that's floating around out there concerning our otherworldy companions, most of this information is either rehashed or seems to have no real foundation whatsoever, so in this case I guess you could say I'mma tough sell.

I wasn't sold with this interview either, before I lay out the reasons why, I just want to say quickly that I don't mean to stir any angry emotions in anyone here, I'm just giving my personal opinion. I respect anyone elses opinions and I also respect Mariam. Now, onto the reasons:

Mariam started off with excuses about how she doesn't want to be doing this disclosure so to speak.
A genuine messenger would not care what others believed because if they know, in their heart of hearts, that they're speaking the truth. Whats to fear? A person who is truly “spiritual” for lack of a better term, and who's speaking 100% truth would have no quams about how others would judge them. Especially if the message was of great importance.


On an emotional level, I just didn't get any feelings of genuine compassion from the speaker. Infact I picked up a lot of arrogant undertones due to many statements such as “no one is perfect, not even myself”, or “even I have problems with this stuff”. These type of statements tend to suggest she raises herself above “normal” people. Having a high opinion of oneself is important, but should never be based on comparison of others.


Finaly, nothing new was said that can't be found somewhere on the internet or in books. Nothing truly genuine. Of course this does not mean that she is not being honest, it's just a fact.

Despite this I do think Mariam is a great person at the end of the day, she had a positive message, aside from the scary nazi blonde hair blue eye resonance as others picked up on, and she does not mean to portray any truly menevolent harm that I detected.

I think the best lesson to be learned from all of these interviews, is we should never take anyones word or views as absolute truth. That's something we must experience on a personal level.
you have sumed this is brillantly thank you .
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you have sumed this is brillantly thank you .
"A genuine messenger would not care what others believed because if they know, in their heart of hearts, that they're speaking the truth."

Yeah dude, try it...seriously, try it. How can you judge someone without actually being in that exact position? You can say I would do this, or you should do that, but you don't know until it's you.

I honestly didn't want to write what I did about astral travel etc, but it seems like it's more real then any of us truly understand yet. I have information & knowledge I've picked up while being a lucid dreamer that I know can help us all in the coming times here. But it makes you sound "crazy" it's not an easy thing to just come out and say necessarily. But I hear people like Dr. Deagle and even the way Dan Burisch speaks of pan dimensional entities and it's a trip to know how much power we truly have as humans. It is all just unrealized. I'm a subscriber to that "convergence" concept David Wilcock talks about and I arrived at that concept independently too which was ultra cool. If that's even fractionally or metaphorically true, freedom is about to ring baby-yeah!

Now you have her talking about hanging out with ET's; how easy of a story is that going to be to swallow for anyone let alone have to be the person telling the story?
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Yeah dude, try it...seriously, try it. How can you judge someone without actually being in that exact position? You can say I would do this, or you should do that, but you don't know until it's you.
Because once you rise above ego centric consciousness you no longer care what others think about you. The only way to rise above your ego is to live
an honest life and get in tune with your intuition or inner voice or
the Divine Presence or whatever you want to call it.
You learn that you have no control over what others think so why let it bother you? So long as you're sure that your path is Truth.

Sure you can choose to let your idea of what pleases other people dictate
you actions, but that is living the dishonest path. It's easy to spot in others
once you learn what to look for.

Do you think Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Jesus, or other like minded people cared
what others thought of them? They knew they were right, that is all that should matter.

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Do you think Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Jesus, or other like minded people cared
what others thought of them? They knew they were right, that is all that should matter.
So because that's how they acted that's how everyone is supposed to act? Maybe she and others don't enjoy speaking about these types of topics because you get abused and "spiritually" judged...like what I keep hearing from you for instance. If you don't like what she's saying fine, but you're no more in the position to judge her validity as a "messenger" then anyone else here. Especially considering the message she gave wasn't a bad one, so what's the problem? Or is it just your problem and ego?
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On the subject of blond/blue-eyed beings: I remember my own encounter with 4 fairly tall blond females with Dune-style super blue eyes that didn't seem like they where from around here if you know what I mean. It was during a lucid dream experience but what was extra odd was that at one point I know I'm having conversations with them in a place where I couldn't understand everything they where saying, nor remember all that I replied. It was like a bridge into the future as well as taking place in "zero time" I guess it could be called. So I was consciously aware I was talking to these beings but I wasn't "allowed" to necessarily hear or remember then entire experience. It was pretty strange I must say, positive, but strange...

And yeah she(Miriam) pretty much said the same thing that we always hear, that should maybe tell us something when a bunch of people independently come up with the same thing, even if generally. If you want a lot of information on the ET motivations, I highly recommend this article on www.exopolitics.org called:

By Mike E. Salla, Phd

Her "apathetic" expression doesn't indicate lying, or callousness necessarily, it indicates understanding. Like what the characters talked about in that movie Platoon about a solider who's been in the field during serious combat, they get a "1000 mile stare". It's a state of acceptance in a sense.

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If you don't like what she's saying fine, but you're no more in the position to judge her validity as a "messenger" then anyone else here. Especially considering the message she gave wasn't a bad one, so what's the problem? Or is it just your problem and ego?
You're exactly right, in a sense. I'm just giving my opinion like everyone else in this thread.
You just happen to not agree with the one I make, I'm not the one disagreeing. I was answering your questions.
Peace I say,
I'm glad to read everyone elses opinions, even opposites. I have learned much 'o much

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You're exactly right, in a sense. I'm just giving my opinion like everyone else in this thread.
You just happen to not agree with the one I make, I'm not the one disagreeing. I was answering your questions.
Peace I say,
I'm glad to read everyone elses opinions, even opposites. I have learned much 'o much
Cool, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm riding you for stating your opinion. I more want to make the point that I see cultural or urban-myth-like expectations dictating what people perceive as "truth" (or the lack there of) instead of remaining opened minded. Especially in light of the fact she didn't give a bad message, or conflict with what many people who are into ET's would agree with.
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Now just sayin'...

I'm pretty sure most of the assessments on her eyes showing lack of control is wrong, as well as the conventional hemispheric syncing of the eye movements only accounts for a very slight portion of what she was communicating. The simple fact so many noticed her eyes moving so much in a "weird" way tells you she was giving off more information then most could first perceive. Make no mistake, she was "weighing" many things in her conscious mind during all of this, but that doesn't mean she's lying or has any sinister motives. She's ****** off about something...it sounds like she knows something pretty deplorable she can't share that's because she just can't prove it.

And just for the record and for everyone here:

The term "NEW AGE" is a misnomer

The knowledge you tend to hear is ancient just like the Bible, Koran, science (new & old), whatever... so when many of us see someone say something like; "I'm tired of all this 'new age' bs.."
You're essentially telling everyone "I'm frustrated and impatient with the situation, so I'm going to lash out and call you something different then me so I can blame you!"

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Hi,

It's clear that posting members here have such differing opinions. Which is great by itself of course.
However it becomes obvious to me that a potential event such as a huge spaceship appearing on October 14th
will NOT have an effect as intended: to make clear they are no threat to us.

And whatever you believe, both ways sound reasonable. Remember that most of us are taught as kid not to trust a stranger with candy ....

What remains probably is just the gut feeling ...

About the duality of good and bad, heaven and hell, paradise or a revelations like clean-sweep of the earth:

We should stop the debate ... WE KNOW what's bad for the planet !! period ... !!

We should not need channelers or ET's to tell us that.

So to me it's undoubtedly clear that whatever any interviewed person is telling we MUST make life altering changes.
We keep making excuses to postpone taking action. Leave the planet as a big mess for our kids ?

We are so impregnated with ideas like economy must 'grow' etc. etc.
How about scaling down some things for a change ?

Obesity leads to all kinds of diseases ... the solution is dieting ... scaling back down to a healthy level.

We know this principle but are in denial folks !

Stop debating and judging who's right or wrong ... LISTEN to your hearts, understand the cause of problems
and start making changes ... let's begin with OURSELVES !!

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I really enjoyed this interview very much. I didn't know much of Miriam's story but it sounded like an intriguing contactee story in the very least. Listening to her, so much of what she said resonated with me. The Hopi account of what's-what in the universe is fairly close to what I believe is going on too in a sense (I'm not a doomsday'er, but I am practical). What she was talking about in terms of the various extra terrestrials really really jived with my own astral encounters. The little greys, the wrinkly greys, the Pleiadians, "other"... I like how she seemed to sincerely mean it when she said "I DON'T want to talk to you right now...". You can tell she was being very earnest when she said that. That means to me that she's not necessarily enjoying the attention, obviously isn't trying to get rich, which leads me to believe what she's saying is genuine(or in the very least it is a real experience for her). I think she did a good job of communicating her intention during that part.

Her eyes: That theory about being imbalanced? I don't buy it. Honestly I can, and do the same thing for more then one reason, and actually if you put your mind to it you can control each eye independently. I just mess with that as a fun experiment -shrugs- but I'm just kind of weird like that . Second & more practical, you can move your eyes about to access that quasi-meditative state that gives you access to deeper levels of memory. Sometimes the information you're "looking" for respectively isn't in one "focused" place like the lay face reading stuff you'll learn on tv or that many modern academics tell you. I sort of theorize it has to do with psycho kinetic energy generated by syncing up the brain using perceptional direction. Like darting your eyes in a rapid fashion...or rapid eye movement(aka REM) And we all know the "wackiness" that goes on in that state of mind

Another way to sync to that meditative state of mind while awake and functioning is to un-focus and drift apart the eyes in some way, almost like splitting your conscious visual perception while maintaining a central "control". Like trying to retrieve an old memory you long forgot from the first time you tried an ice cream cone for example. It's there, somewhere, even if on that "information layer" or "akashic records", you just gotta access it somehow. That doesn't mean you have to sit there cross-eyed, but even a quick "matrix wobble" effect using that technique can knock your senses into that "mode" or brain state if you know what you're doing.

Just like she essentially eluded to, when you have to focus specifically on direct communication &/or identification no matter this "waking reality" or in dreams/projections; the eyes will tell you what you need to know if you know how to look. When she needed to say something directly too Bill, Kerry, or the camera, notice how she got very focused then? Yeah, she's been on a trip and has seen some serious reality-rocking stuff...very cool interview.

Here's an interesting thing I've learned in my own astral travels (AKA Dreaming, Lucid Dreaming, Astral Projection, whatever...) that works against malicious entities be-they earthly or extra terrestrial, which is white light. Pure white light. You don't need to pray to anything or anyone, just think of the purest white light imaginable. If you're a spiritual person think of this as your soul energy, if you're a science-minded person think of it as that theorized heart "zero point" energy source. So if an ET is trying to impose it's will on you and will not identify itself, or tell you it's intention, show them that you can use that light, and they will instantly respect you more...

How do you use the light? that's up to you, on the astral plane you can literally do anything. So it can be in the form of a torch, a candle, you can make fireballs with your hands, you can glow, you can create a shield, the possibilities are literally endless. You'll be surprised how much of this matrix we actually capable of bending.
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