new half past human report(webbot)

[2infinityandbeyond]

Ahh if theres a chance everything may change for the worse is it really ethical to charge a person so they can be informed? (which may in fact save their life)

Word is, a nuke is going to hit. I wont tell you where unless you pay me. Its a loose analogy but but it gives an example of just how unethical it can be to be ethical.

This year is proving to be very stressfull.

[John aka#404]

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond

Ahh if theres a chance everything may change for the worse is it really ethical to charge a person so they can be informed? (which may in fact save their life)

I do not see the information underneath Urban Survival as being any more enlightening than what you can read for free.

Clif has said it time and time again... the information is for those that have enough foresight as well as the funds to appreciate the additional information.

I am not here to defend HPH or Urban Survival... I just wanted to say that

if INFORMATION is only accessible via a registered account and somebody just goes and posts it, I don't question the company charging for the registration... I question the person posting irresponsibly.

If you think it is irresponsible of HPH charging the fee they charge, contact them. Debating it here is fruitless as well as not within the realm of Avalon's message.

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Okay friends. Here is the update:

Posted 9/23/08 on godlikeproductions.com

Don't know if this was posted yet, but here goes:

Running to Keep Up With Events

Since Cliff and I were on CoastToCoastAM overnight, events have started to unroll at breakneck speed. So here's a summary of what has changed since we were on:

In our interview last night, Cliff pointed out that the latest output from modelspace seems to indicate that the meltdown in October will likely split into two components. A financial aspect which will hit about October 7th and then a 'military' oriented event(s) that will happen about October 15th. Then, this morning's editions of the New York Sun headline that "Spies Warn that Al Qaida Aims for October Surprise."

The next thing up was a phone call from m,y tax attorney/CPA who has been keeping track on the back of an envelope - he says that as far as he can figure, the cost of all the bailouts willk total about $1.8 trillion dollars, but in his estimate (remember, he's only a tax attorney and CPA - not an advisor to any of the players) the real total could run upwards of $5-trillion dollars when all is said and done. The problem he outlines is this: When you read up on how much the bailout will cost bear in mind that the biggest players have not yet indicasted their feelings on the matter. And those 'biggest players' are whom? The foreigners who will end up loaning us to money to do our bailout. His point boils down to this: We're already borrowing about $2-billion a day to keep America solvent (we've been living on credit for years and that's our balance of trade deficit calculated daily. So now, if you are a foreigner investing in America, you have to ask youself this question: If we're already lending the USA $2-billion a day, should we lend them an additiona $1.8 trillion - or maybe two or three times that in order to bail them out? In the end, my tax attorney/CPA pal says nope, someone's going to blink, global competitive currency devaluations will be "Game on!" and the dollar will get slammed. Of course, as a long term reader, you'll recall that when when the dollar is devalued internationally, the prices we pay domestically for things will seem to go up. Thus, if the dollar's value drops by half, the prices we pay on the global market for flat screen teevees, oil, and other 'necessities of life' will double. Gold is up over $25 an ounce the last time I looked and a doubling of gold would put it near enough to $1,500 an ounce..

Then my pal "The Bond Dude" called to say "You missed it - ever so slightly." Oh-oh...being in no condition being sleep deprived, I made him explain slowly what I missed: "When you're talking about the Private Sector Coinvestment idea, that's on the front end - before the government money goes in, so that as soon as the private guys make their slice, they will take out the public 90%. In other words, it's a buy-in on the front-end, not the back...". OK, that's making sense.

OK, now back to 20+ voicemails, a hundred emails, and then maybe I can get some client work done...

In our discussion of how the webbot project orf www.halfpasthuman.com works, the following graphic is useful to consider. Think of an 'event' in our immediate future - such as the 'life changer' that shows up in modelspace on or around October 7th, 7:10 UTC or so, as a rock thrown into a still pond. We'll call it the "Event" in this drawing:

Unfortunately, the future is never so simple as a single thought, a single rock. Nope. The Universe makes things unfathomably complicated by not dumping in 'an event' this time - it's more (as Cliff puts it) like a series of gravel trucks are backed up and dumped into the pond, day after day for the next six months. That, in itself should give you some ideas about investing in diesel, buying hiking shoes, having stored foods, and so forth. Whatever it is we're seeing in model space, life is about to go through a dramatic change of 'order'.

The highlights are Massive change in financial structures (ongoing, see next item) then whatever the October 7th events are, then a series of release or emotions events till March 2009. Something with a lot of 'military' aspect to it on October 15th, or thereabout. Then one big earthquake, likely Pacific Northwest around December 10th, with another one within days (Dec. 12th in model space).

Then we get rising discontent/talk of rebellion/revolution through the spring, the Summer of Hell in 2009, and strange disappearances - but it ain't the Rapture - think more like 'the harvesting' starts in late summer 2009.

Me? I'll be going on an anorexic diet. Don't want to look like a main course come 2010.

[link to www.urbansurvival.com]

If I find a more recent update I will let you know. Just search the net using the keywords: web bot predictions update october surprise 2008

That will feed this thread with more curiosity. Good Luck.

[ChooseYourLifeNow]

I am definitely interested in hearing more about the disappearances in 2009 that they mentioned on that coast to coast interview.

Who/what kind of people will be disappearing? They mentioned some of the "powers that be" disappearing? Are we going to be eaten? What's the deal? Any interpretations on this?


CYLNow

This disappearing people made me reflect on the video with Dan Burisch about the alien technology gadgets. I think it may correspond to that material regarding opening up some kind of gateway.

This reminds me of Stargate SG1? Hmmm...?

[John aka#404]

Originally Posted by suriel

... This reminds me of Stargate SG1? Hmmm...?

Ever since I saw Stargate the movie (never really followed the TV series) I wondered if it was the real piercing the masses a bit.

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[J-Bird]

Clearly this "web bot" program has been used before in the past. Does anyone know the accuracy rating? Previous Predictions that came true or were remotely accurate? Or is there any proof that the program can do any kind of predicting at all? In other words how much credence do we give this?

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by J-Bird

Clearly this "web bot" program has been used before in the past. Does anyone know the accuracy rating? Previous Predictions that came true or were remotely accurate? Or is there any proof that the program can do any kind of predicting at all? In other words how much credence do we give this?

No idea about the accuracy rating, and I have only been paying attention to it since PC first mentioned it. But HPH claim to have predicted nine-eleven, Katrina, the black out in '03, and possibly the recent quake in China? Or maybe it was the tsunami in Asia, or maybe both. These things were either mentioned in the Coast to Coast interview or on the HPH/Urban Survival websites. Memory is dodgy. So...

HOWEVER

They also stated on C2C that they've been spectacularly wrong in the past, too.

[Carol]

Good gad! "the Summer of Hell in 2009, and strange disappearances - but it ain't the Rapture - think more like 'the harvesting' starts in late summer 2009" this sounds rather ominous. I wonder what is really going on here?

[quest]

if you look at the predicted events, they all could have been planned ahead.
in my oppinion these are no predections, but pre knowledge, just announcements.

[Operator]

Originally Posted by quest

if you look at the predicted events, they all could have been planned ahead.
in my oppinion these are no predections, but pre knowledge, just announcements.

Ok, it's interesting ... might get philosophical ...
What's the difference between prediction and pre knowledge ?

If I have the intention to spill a glass of water onto the ground I can pre-dict it because I have pre knowledge.
The future does not exist yet ... only my intention.

I think there must be intention by someone otherwise this future will not be 'created'.

If someone else 'senses' my intention and intentionally places a bucket on the ground he changes the outcome ...

Isn't his just what it is all about ?
Without intention (by whomever) there will be no future (event).

It makes us all 'manipulators' in time. The collective 'consciousness' at the helm.

Cheers

[quest]

Originally Posted by Operator

Ok, it's interesting ... might get philosophical ...
What's the difference between prediction and pre knowledge ?

If I have the intention to spill a glass of water onto the ground I can pre-dict it because I have pre knowledge.
The future does not exist yet ... only my intention.

I think there must be intention by someone otherwise this future will not be 'created'.

If someone else 'senses' my intention and intentionally places a bucket on the ground he changes the outcome ...

Isn't his just what it is all about ?
Without intention (by whomever) there will be no future (event).

It makes us all 'manipulators' in time. The collective 'consciousness' at the helm.

Cheers

hi operator,

it was not ment philosophical so much, i think the webbotters could just be not our friends.
by having the knowledge of what is planned, and then putting it out there as 'predictions' they might yust reinforce their agenda. scenario's put in a bedding of fear, emotion. i wunder why so few people consider this possibility.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by quest

hi operator,

it was not ment philosophical so much, i think the webbotters could just be not our friends.
by having the knowledge of what is planned, and then putting it out there as 'predictions' they might yust reinforce their agenda. scenario's put in a bedding of fear, emotion. i wunder why so few people consider this possibility.

I guess the same goes for the Mayan Calendar plotters whom can't decide upon an end date until one of them mysteriously dies, the remote viewers whom 'can't see beyond 2102' and a myriad of channeled gibberish hey! I'd agree. Fear fear, FEAR, fear, FeAr.

[quest]

Originally Posted by Lance

I guess the same goes for the Mayan Calendar plotters whom can't decide upon an end date until one of them mysteriously dies, the remote viewers whom 'can't see beyond 2102' and a myriad of channeled gibberish hey! I'd agree. Fear fear, FEAR, fear, FeAr.

yes lance, these effects are realy welcomed and misused i think, all over the place.

but the case of webbot is even worse, how difficult it is to firt miraculously predict 9-11 and then blow up the towers at the 'predicted' date.

[Stinkhorn]

Supposedly, we the people will revolt against our government and we will find out the secrets of aliens that have been kept for over 100 years.

The aliens are interested in our fluids, most likely the pineal gland in our brains and our lymph system. We go to war with the aliens and we win but at a great loss, maybe only about 500,000 thousand survive worldwide. I wory not, I will be one of them.

I have been waiting for this since I was born, I though it would come earlier in my life, around age 19, now at 36 I can feel it really close. It is our destiny!

[Operator]

Originally Posted by quest

hi operator,

it was not ment philosophical so much, i think the webbotters could just be not our friends.
by having the knowledge of what is planned, and then putting it out there as 'predictions' they might yust reinforce their agenda. scenario's put in a bedding of fear, emotion. i wunder why so few people consider this possibility.

Good point ...

My angle was indeed different ... however because the principle always works it also works in this case.

If you 'intentionally' release info (or dis-info) it's about creating a future 'event'.
As far as I know you cannot think about something NOT happening.
So by creating fear you create collective thinking about something TO HAPPEN.

If you're successful in creating collective fear you inherently proof your prediction will be correct.

To create a 'clean' future it's better to not know any prediction !
Great, so what are we doing here ??

That was more or less my conclusion from my last post too: "We are all manipulators by showing e.g. body language or telling/showing intent"

Cheers

[Maude]

Hi, what an interesting thread...I became fascinated with HPH recently and would like to add a couple of opinions FWIW. On an article I read which explained the technology (and it seemed to make sense even tho I am a complete techno-dummy) there is a plausible reason they don't publicly release their full analyses. This is because when they did the webbot technology kept finding their own reports and adding them to the data and thus skewing the findings. Plus, I reckon that putting the info out there is kind of creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of intent. Whether that can be classed as disinfo or just a couple of guys in a dilemma over what they think they've found and what to do with it, well thats up to you, dear reader.
Also as the main points are available on the urbansurvival site, then surely that info is now being disseminated across the web and also will be added to the data and possibly skewing the results? Who knows? Its too much for my poor mind...its boggled!
Further the technology only does so much. It is the human input which is analysing the data collected and trying to make sense of it. Well, like any other human analyses, it is simply one persons interpretation.
Having said all that, I can see why these 'time monks' might be intrigued and devoted enough to try and refine their interpretations. But I can't really appreciate how or why it should be taken any more seriously than anything else that I have been reading in the way of prophecy or prediction.
Anyway, I have gabbled and I'm not sure any of the above made any sense!
Love and peace to all,

[Operator]

Hi,

What boggles my mind more and more ...

Why have humans always such a hunger for prophecies or predictions ?
If we are powerful creators then that's the only thing we need to know.

It looks like we are afraid of ourselves, of our own powers and let the future be constructed by others.
So we can complain we are slaves of the 'others' and blame them if the future is not what we like ...

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by J-Bird

Clearly this "web bot" program has been used before in the past. Does anyone know the accuracy rating? Previous Predictions that came true or were remotely accurate? Or is there any proof that the program can do any kind of predicting at all? In other words how much credence do we give this?

It predicted that there would be an event in early september of 2001 which wold cause worldwide grief and effect everyone at some level all around the world.

*thinks..* what happened on september 11th again?

[quest]

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond

It predicted that there would be an event in early september of 2001 which wold cause worldwide grief and effect everyone at some level all around the world.

*thinks..* what happened on september 11th again?

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Originally Posted by quest

...how difficult could it be to first 'miraculously' predict 9-11 and then blow up the towers at the 'predicted' date.

[J-Bird]

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond

It predicted that there would be an event in early september of 2001 which wold cause worldwide grief and effect everyone at some level all around the world.

*thinks..* what happened on september 11th again?

I wasn't implying it wasn't accurate, I was just asking.

[purplesage]

I have been following the (free) urbansurvival web page for 6 months now. Sometimes they're right (a major quake & the following dam breaks/flooding, severe stock market downturns), sometimes they're wrong (they predicted a major quake for Pacific NW by autumn's solstice, gold will double). Alot like astrology, their vagueness allows many scenarios to 'fulfill' predictions. When they ARE more precise, they often get some aspects wrong (their quake prediction (that was China's big one) was originally predicted for U.S. (their US-centric skew seems to be a major detraction of their accuracies).
Bottom line? The site has steered me in the right direction (reduction of paper assets & useless stuff (listen to George Carlin's rant on STUFF). No one person has all the answers, including George Ure & webbot Clif, but they do have useful information if you're able to filter it on a personal level ('they're more like guidelines'). When I have acted upon the info found there that truly resonates within me, it's been beneficial.
Through intent, we all make our own reality. Every challenge is an opportunity to change & grow. Look within for your particular purpose in this current world. Are you part of the problem or the solution?
Number 404, Nicomachus, Operator & Alyscat posts on this thread are all worth re-reading.

[addalight]

I just wanted point out that Webbots R Us. It isn't someone's personal prediction. It's a way of tapping into the collective unconscence as manifest on the internet, however limited that might be. I believe he puts as little as possible through the personal filter and still put the information out in some understandable way. Cliff is first to admit he doesn't really know what some of this information means.

[Sanat]

What do you trust more? Some machine/bot, or your own heart?

[LOCOAZ2008]

Pleace translate...

Hola a todos.....

Miren me estoy dando cuenta que estamos en este forum haciendo mal, les explico.

Si sale una noticia como la de web bot estamos gastando nuestra energia en poner en tela de juicio lo que dice web bot, lo mejor es hacer un analisis de lo expresado y ponernos en la supocision que pasaria se esto pasara, y ponernos a pensar en quehariamos si llegara a suceder. No pienso que negando si ellos predicen bien o no las cosas o si dieron en el blanco de la prediccion, ya se habran dado cuenta que varias veces han acertado en sus predicciones.

No pretendo que nadia entre en panico, solo digo ¡ hay que poner toda la informacion venga de donde venga y procesarla! Si solo negamos seremos presa facil del panico cuando llegue el momento de enfretarnos.

Saludos.

Paece & love