Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock

[omnicentricity]

Originally Posted by feeler

The chance of UFO being “unanimously invited by humanity” is next to nil. You are in the minority.

Um - I was agreeing with DW's assertion that the possibility of a mass sighting was nil to begin with. I don't know what minority that puts me in...

When I first saw this youtube video, I laughed and gave it the same level of consideration that I would to any random silly video, like someone getting whacked in the balls with a whiffle bat. It made me giggle for about 10 seconds and then I moved on to something else in my life. I don't really know how that makes me a minority LOL. Could you please elaborate?

The next 9/11 (if the power that be so choose) will crystallize the “victim consciousness” among the mass for good.

Well, that is quite a victimized understanding to be projecting. Are you saying that another 9/11 type event (assuming that one manifests) would indisputably solidify victim thinking for YOU? Because speaking for myself, I KNOW that anything that happens around me, catastrophe or miracle, will only serve to awaken my essence even more, because I am the one who chooses to respond to external events. I don't speak for the rest of humanity because I am not arrogant enough to think that everyone responds to everything the same way I would.

I'm sorry you view the game as being otherwise, but again, that is your choice to see what you want. I would argue that you are leaving out a massive part of the picture to derive your conclusion, but we are all moving towards creating conscious cognition of all the elements in play, whatever stage of awareness we happen to have evolved thus far.

I do not perceive the same constipated reality that you are expressing, but then again I don't really choose to think in limited, pejorative absolutes. For what it's worth, I have not found such a worldview to be an effective basis for constructive thinking or communicating with others

This thread is to discuss whether the respect to the populace’s “free will” is a logical reason or explanation for a mass sighting not to take place on Oct 14.

Ok, so what is it you are discussing then? What is your position?

Because it appears as though you are basically saying that:

- October 14th was supposed to occur according to a highly credible source
- you think David Wilcock offered a poor explanation for why the sighting didn't happen, because
- you think free will either does not exist or is a misunderstood concept, due to many external factors that you choose to see as more significant than your own choices

Is this correct or am I way off base here? Please help me understand, as this ineffective crosstalking of our last two posts is not really something I enjoy. Please remember we are friends here, seeking to enlighten each other

[feeler]

Originally Posted by omnicentricity

Because it appears as though you are basically saying that:

- October 14th was supposed to occur according to a highly credible source
- you think David Wilcock offered a poor explanation for why the sighting didn't happen, because
- you think free will either does not exist or is a misunderstood concept, due to many external factors that you choose to see as more significant than your own choices

Is this correct or am I way off base here? Please help me understand, as this ineffective crosstalking of our last two posts is not really something I enjoy. Please remember we are friends here, seeking to enlighten each other

omnicentricity

1. Whether the source is credible or otherwise is purely subjective.
2. David Wilcock offered an explanation that, in my opinion, is not entirely complete (hence this thread).
3. My argument here is not whether the "will" is "free" but whether the "will" is "shaped" or "guided" (or misguided for that matter).


The issue at hand, as described by Alex Collier:

"As far as our free will as compared to the free will of other races, it is one and the same. It's just that we don't as a population have the realization of the power of our collective free will. We don't totally realize the sovereignty that our free will gives us. That is why they are manipulating us through belief systems in order to try and get is to relinquish our free will, by coercing us to use our own free will against us and ask them to come down here and control us. It's a choice." - Alex Collier

Additional reference from a differenct source (note: the key words here are "undermine" and "lack" in regards to the free will):

Coercion and manipulation undermine free will, on this view, in virtue of making agents not reasons-responsive. If Allison has been brainwashed to walk the dog at a certain time, then even if she were to turn on the news and sees that it is snowing, she would attempt to walk the dog despite having good reasons not to. Thus, manipulated agents are not reasons-responsive, and in virtue of this lack free will. [See Fischer and Ravizza (1998) for one of the primary reasons-responsive views of free will.]

[capreycorn]

just a thought..
the 14th october anouncements mentioned a 2000miles big spaceship next to spaceship earth? 2000miles = our moon (the biggest satellite circling earth)! (remember the moon of The Truman Show..) 14th october was said to be the strongest full moon ....

[feeler]

Originally Posted by capreycorn

just a thought..
the 14th october anouncements mentioned a 2000miles big spaceship next to spaceship earth? 2000miles = our moon (the biggest satellite circling earth)! (remember the moon of The Truman Show..) 14th october was said to be the strongest full moon ....

What a perceptive observation capreycorn. It's here all along. It only takes a 180 degree rotation of the satellite for the others to realize what it really is. -feeler

[Darkshade]

Originally Posted by capreycorn

just a thought..
the 14th october anouncements mentioned a 2000miles big spaceship next to spaceship earth? 2000miles = our moon (the biggest satellite circling earth)! (remember the moon of The Truman Show..) 14th october was said to be the strongest full moon ....

I've been thinking about the same thing. The spaceship was also supposed to be visible for 3 days. From what I found out October 14 was a 3 day full moon cycle. Now that's two "coincidents"