How can We take the Bible seriously?

[ForsakenFalcon]

Originally Posted by murnut

The Crusades, and the Roman Catholic church have little to do with the message of the Bible.

You should read it some time

Ok how about them We get to read all the passiger's that were rejected from it? interesting FACT is that Judas has He's own scrolls around the place that give GREAT insight to the messige that man and god stand side by side at dawn as one and both gazeing upon there creation with love.

MAN & GOD, Not JESUS & GOD.

Here is a question about the bible I'd like awnsered then...

Levithan is a mythical sea creature in the bible thats apparently demonic and soul purpose in exsistence is to kill Men...... Considering most Priest wont eithen say if it's a giant crocodile, sea searpent, ext it shows they know very very little too... and if I'm not mistaken if god created every animal as well as us.... how can a animal be considerd evil?.....

It's like the snake theorie in the garden of eden apparently Lucifer POSSESES a snake (back when they apparently had 4 legs) and once Man sined THE SNAKE GETS PUNISHED?! not the Entitity itself that was in it at the time?!

Wow....Wow....Wow... If the bible is true We have such a loveing god "cough"

[murnut]

Originally Posted by ForsakenFalcon

Ok how about them We get to read all the passiger's that were rejected from it? interesting FACT is that Judas has He's own scrolls around the place that give GREAT insight to the messige that man and god stand side by side at dawn as one and both gazeing upon there creation with love.

MAN & GOD, Not JESUS & GOD.

Here is a question about the bible I'd like awnsered then...

Levithan is a mythical sea creature in the bible thats apparently demonic and soul purpose in exsistence is to kill Men...... Considering most Priest wont eithen say if it's a giant crocodile, sea searpent, ext it shows they know very very little too... and if I'm not mistaken if god created every animal as well as us.... how can a animal be considerd evil?.....

It's like the snake theorie in the garden of eden apparently Lucifer POSSESES a snake (back when they apparently had 4 legs) and once Man sined THE SNAKE GETS PUNISHED?! not the Entitity itself that was in it at the time?!

Wow....Wow....Wow... If the bible is true We have such a loveing god "cough"

Sounds like you have it all figured out.

God bless you

[maya12-21-2012]

Originally Posted by ForsakenFalcon

Wow....Wow....Wow... If the bible is true We have such a loveing god "cough"

Yup. In my opinion, it's all about conformity, power and greed. Hmmm...that sounds like the New World Order. It's perfect for the sheeple who need something to believe in other than themselves.

Ironically, the only 3 city states in the world are in Washington, DC, London and the Vatican City.

Washington makes the laws and polices the world. London watches over the money and the Vatican City runs religion.

How convenient.

It's time to wake up, my sheeple friends!

[murnut]

Again you have missed the point.

Those you have referenced do not represent God.

Govt's are not about truth, they are about control, always have been, always will be.

Truth is found else where

Go ahead and replace the current PtB with your new PtB.

And what is the difference?

[maya12-21-2012]

Originally Posted by murnut

Again you have missed the point.

Those you have referenced do not represent God.

Govt's are not about truth, they are about control, always have been, always will be.

Truth is found else where

Go ahead and replace the current PtB with your new PtB.

And what is the difference?

I guess you didn't know that the bible was plagerized from the Egyptians.

I've read the bible and can appreciate the morals it provides. I can appreciate the parables as well but the number of contradicting statements makes it hard to give credence to validity.

In my opinion, religion is a HUGE scam. I believe we have an ultimate creator and most likely, it's a FEMALE because women are the ones who CREATE, not men.

Think about it.

Do you drop to your knees to pray to your God? I don't. My God wants to be treated like a best friend, not worshipped. He and/or she doesn't walk in front of me nor does he and/or she walk behind me...he and/or she walks next to me.

This is the most comfortable I've ever felt about religion. Please bear in mind that Iim not trying to convert you away from Christianity!!! I respect your belief system but don't agree with it.

Can we meet halfway and agree to disagree?

[ForsakenFalcon]

Originally Posted by maya12-21-2012

I guess you didn't know that the bible was plagerized from the Egyptians.

I've read the bible and can appreciate the morals it provides. I can appreciate the parables as well but the number of contradicting statements makes it hard to give credence to validity.

In my opinion, religion is a HUGE scam. I believe we have an ultimate creator and most likely, it's a FEMALE because women are the ones who CREATE, not men.

Think about it.

Do you drop to your knees to pray to your God? I don't. My God wants to be treated like a best friend, not worshipped. He and/or she doesn't walk in front of me nor does he and/or she walk behind me...he and/or she walks next to me.

This is the most comfortable I've ever felt about religion. Please bear in mind that Iim not trying to convert you away from Christianity!!! I respect your belief system but don't agree with it.

Can we meet halfway and agree to disagree?

that's true Horus's story is basicly identical to that of Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGkRFFBd0A

Allso Disclaimer on My defence I never intended to have People disown there faith from the question I am asking and I greatly respect those whom take the possible and loveing aspects of what can be learned its just the "STORYS" in it I am questioning and I'm sorry I WILL NOT tip toe around a question if I see false with in the storys & I may seem offensive or like a ******* but I am generaly wanting awnsers to what I see doesn't fit, Nothing more.

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[Phtha]

Originally Posted by maya12-21-2012

In my opinion, religion is a HUGE scam. I believe we have an ultimate creator and most likely, it's a FEMALE because women are the ones who CREATE, not men.

Think about it.

Don't forget the bible and religion are two different things. And both man and women play a role in creation.

[murnut]

Originally Posted by maya12-21-2012

I guess you didn't know that the bible was plagerized from the Egyptians.

I've read the bible and can appreciate the morals it provides. I can appreciate the parables as well but the number of contradicting statements makes it hard to give credence to validity.

In my opinion, religion is a HUGE scam. I believe we have an ultimate creator and most likely, it's a FEMALE because women are the ones who CREATE, not men.

Think about it.

Do you drop to your knees to pray to your God? I don't. My God wants to be treated like a best friend, not worshipped. He and/or she doesn't walk in front of me nor does he and/or she walk behind me...he and/or she walks next to me.

This is the most comfortable I've ever felt about religion. Please bear in mind that Iim not trying to convert you away from Christianity!!! I respect your belief system but don't agree with it.

Can we meet halfway and agree to disagree?

I am a Friend

http://www.quaker.org/friends.html


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I agree with some of your post, I don't go to church, yes there are many that are hypocrites, but there are many as such, not having anything to do with religion.

Human condition issue

Contradicting statements perhaps imply a need for deeper understanding.

How many conflicting statements are found at PC by insiders?

Are they all true?

Find the light which is true in your heart, and this cannot be accomplished by tearing down the beliefs of others.

Some truths will speak to you and some won't.

The light is within all of us....whether you want it or not, and so is the darkness.

This is which makes us human.

The important part is for some type of understanding to occur,

This happens on a personal basis.

[whitecrow]

That's actually a heck of a good question, and it deserves a better answer than it usually gets from religious folks OR those who think the whole thing is a joke.

First of all, I can't stand it when someone wants to talk to me about how the Bible is literally true. The only way anyone can think that is not to have read it. Ask any Christian and he'll tell you he reads his Bible. Trouble is, 99.9% of haven't read the Bible, they just read the parts of it that their pastor suggests.

Sit down and read the thing from cover to cover, and you'll discover it isn't the book you thought it was. Yes, it contradicts itself in a number of places. No, it is not literally true in the sense that we would use that term today. Nor is it history in the sense we think of it today.

Is it "true?" Let me put it this way...everyone knows that facts can be made to lie. And everyone knows that the deepest truths can be found in works of fiction. The Bible is like everything else we think we know. It's all true. It's all lies. Some truth is false, and some lies are truer than the truth.

Murnut!

I am a Friend

http://www.quaker.org/friends.html

I was a member of the Dallas Monthly Meeting for many years. I'm no longer officially Friendly, but nevertheless it's good to meet thee!

Calm it down please guys..

It's getting very warm in here!

Healthy debate is good, insult trading is not

[murnut]

Originally Posted by musado

Calm it down please guys..

It's getting very warm in here!

Healthy debate is good, insult trading is not

Why does controversy seem to follow me?

Maybe Dan Smith is rubbing off on me...

Edit...or maybe Toon

Look out Musado...hehehe

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Hey White Crow!

Nice to meet you

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[Norval]

, , , I was waiting for this thread to be opened in "such" a way.

Same ol' same ol' discussion. A waste of time.

Read the book, all of the books, Deuterocanonicals and Apocrypha, books taken out by "religions", bibles have, KJV = 66, Catholic = 72 total I recomend, , , about 90.

Know the writings, all of them, read them, then talk about them.

Norval

[arcora]

It is a mistake to equate the Bible with the Church.

The Church is a man-made organization that is corruptible and corrupted.

The Bible is the Word of God - with the disclaimer that it is edited and compiled by man.

If the Bible simply were to give anyone who read it True Knowledge and Enlightenment, we wouldn't have churches (or any other books for that matter).

I believe it should be read, understood as well as possible and comprehended in context. Always understanding who wrote what and under what conditions.

I believe the Gospels are the most informative and believable part of the Bible. I also think that much of what the Bible really means to impart has been corrupted, mis-interpreted and spun by the Church. Unfortunately, most Bible thumpers only know what they have been told and many seem to lack the ability to interpret for themselves. It is easy - but spiritually corrupt - to find a passage in the Bible to justify any dogma.

Those who only listen to what the Church has to say about the Bible and faith is somewhat akin to using the Fox Network as your only source for news.

[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by arcora

Those who only listen to what the Church has to say about the Bible and faith is somewhat akin to using the Fox Network as your only source for news.

Yours is one of the smartest comments I've read on the topic. I don't happen to agree 100% but that's irrelevant. Most of what you wrote is pretty much what I was trying to say in my earlier post - and I apologize to those who thought I was getting a little excited.

Hi everybody, Im new to the forum and I think this discussion about the bible is very necessary, seeing how many of the world controllers are lucifarian/satanist. The most powerful people on the planet beleive in a being known as lucifer/satan depending on who you talk to. Their deity apparently has rewarded them for there service and worship with terrestrial power and wealth beyond what most people beleive is even possible. It seems to me that this guy lucifer/satan is very real, wouldnt that give creedance to Jesus being real also??

[Samson]

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[arcora]

Originally Posted by Samson

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Which are your favorite books for finding knowledge?

[bostonirish22]

What you have to understand about the Bible is that it wasn't written by God himself. It was written by men who were prophets, holy men, and apostles of Jesus. Everything that is written was also translated, so it depends on the version you get. The Catholic ones are probably the ones that are closest to the real thing, on account of them not taking things out and twisting things around. Also, you need to take what is written with a grain of salt. It is mostly not to be taken literally. Most things written in the Bible are metaphors. It's like reading poetry, you have to read it, and translate it in your own mind to make it make sense for you. When reading the Bible, you have to have an open mind and read it more with your soul than with your brain.

I hope that helps.

<3 Tara

[murnut]

Originally Posted by bostonirish22

What you have to understand about the Bible is that it wasn't written by God himself. It was written by men who were prophets, holy men, and apostles of Jesus. Everything that is written was also translated, so it depends on the version you get. The Catholic ones are probably the ones that are closest to the real thing, on account of them not taking things out and twisting things around. Also, you need to take what is written with a grain of salt. It is mostly not to be taken literally. Most things written in the Bible are metaphors. It's like reading poetry, you have to read it, and translate it in your own mind to make it make sense for you. When reading the Bible, you have to have an open mind and read it more with your soul than with your brain.

I hope that helps.

<3 Tara

Wow, great post!

You have got it exactly right.

Kudos

[motov]

i have reed the bible many times and its an amassing book, the storys are just good.... but i dont buy the divine of GOD, but i may picture God (and jesus) as highly enlighten, spiritual and technological entity(`s) guiding men, but still mortal..
the bible is also an "victim" of censorship, it should have included all scripts and not only few selected...

[arcora]

Originally Posted by motov

i have reed the bible many times and its an amassing book, the storys are just good.... but i dont buy the divine of GOD, but i may picture God (and jesus) as highly enlighten, spiritual and technological entity(`s) guiding men, but still mortal..
the bible is also an "victim" of censorship, it should have included all scripts and not only few selected...

If a mortal created the universe, who created Him?

[motov]

Originally Posted by arcora

If a mortal created the universe, who created Him?

hi
yes i was waiting for that one...
i do not believe that god created the universe, i think thats more of an extreme complicated proses, but the theme of creation in the bible i think is a more lokal event, in the way of terraforming or just seeding out solar system, and transcripting the terms to an human understandeble realm, like night and day sea and sky..and so forth..
tnx

[Norval]

Puts on the rubber boots and wades in. Waves a hand at Musado.

First I would like to point out that this thread demonstrates certain specific tactics of "agents" in forums This one is added to our research list, thank you all.

Bostonirish22 mentions the Catholic bible,

The Catholic ones are probably the ones that are closest to the real thing, on account of them not taking things out and twisting things around.

Actually they have taken out several books that were in the "bibles" prior to 1610 2nd Esdras being one of them. You are correct in that it is a good reading bible. I have the St. Joseph's Student Edition. But the one I use most is the NRSV with Apocrypha (protestant extra books) and Deuterocanonicals (catholic extra books) with 84 books in it, like the Russians and Greeks, and most others except for the USA. But keep researching about the bible as you no doubt have.

Considering what many are now investigating about the bible and ET connection, I would take it seriously.

[Norval]

The Gods that created us are probably of the oldest ET beings. "Ancient of days" type of idea. As the bible points out other beings have been created also.

Where the first sentient intelligent life may have come from is unknown.

What is known is that those that created us, also created the universe of over 400 billion galaxies in it. Quite the work.

[murnut]

Originally Posted by Norval

Puts on the rubber boots and wades in. Waves a hand at Musado.

First I would like to point out that this thread demonstrates certain specific tactics of "agents" in forums This one is added to our research list, thank you all.

Bostonirish22 mentions the Catholic bible,


Actually they have taken out several books that were in the "bibles" prior to 1610 2nd Esdras being one of them. You are correct in that it is a good reading bible. I have the St. Joseph's Student Edition. But the one I use most is the NRSV with Apocrypha (protestant extra books) and Deuterocanonicals (catholic extra books) with 84 books in it, like the Russians and Greeks, and most others except for the USA. But keep researching about the bible as you no doubt have.

Considering what many are now investigating about the bible and ET connection, I would take it seriously.

LOL...the real agents have better things to do.

And I agree with the rest of your post