To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion

bill7907 · 10-31-2008, 05:27 PM

Bill Ryan you said that about me: "a range of general accusations which are unhelpful".

So are you aware that Zorgon replied to me by talking about the holmes comet? Maybe not because you didn't see the Thread in its original state.
PM Zorgon if you want or anyone that was aware of the original state of the Thread.

I replied back to his comment, but our 2 posts are not present anymore in Thread.
So it's clear that someone erased them.
I am not throwing random stuff here just to cause confusion, someone erased the posts and I want to know why?

dataeast · 10-31-2008, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill7907

So are you aware that Zorgon replied to me ...

Yeah, you aren't going mad, I saw those posts about the IRSA(?).

capreycorn · 10-31-2008, 05:54 PM

...blame it on homeland security...
must be too easy for them to delete this and that on this forum and create trouble this way...
and no one will know what really "hit" the forum.

are any computer experts out there who know how many "backdoor-possibilities" exist to do some stealthy modifications?

little do we really know about how the computers at their very core are really operating..unless one of us works for one of the 2 "known" (can`t recall the names!

) companies in this world. how are we to know? all of what we know is basically what we are told...(allowed to know)

rossy_j · 10-31-2008, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill7907

Bill Ryan you said that about me: "a range of general accusations which are unhelpful".

So are you aware that Zorgon replied to me by talking about the holmes comet? Maybe not because you didn't see the Thread in its original state.
PM Zorgon if you want or anyone that was aware of the original state of the Thread.

I replied back to his comment, but our 2 posts are not present anymore in Thread.
So it's clear that someone erased them.
I am not throwing random stuff here just to cause confusion, someone erased the posts and I want to know why?

bill7907

I don't care about your lost theads.

Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy need to be more careful in Australia and more protective of their (mod) team in America.

If you think Aus is some European back water, think again!!!

m00g · 10-31-2008, 06:14 PM

Just read the charter I posted above, adapt that mentality here and all is ok.

Its so simple.

10-31-2008, 06:53 PM

it should be a hard work to be mod here as there are a little number of them i think.

Bill Ryan · 10-31-2008, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill7907
Bill Ryan you said that about me: "a range of general accusations which are unhelpful".

So are you aware that Zorgon replied to me by talking about the holmes comet? Maybe not because you didn't see the Thread in its original state.
PM Zorgon if you want or anyone that was aware of the original state of the Thread.

I replied back to his comment, but our 2 posts are not present anymore in Thread.
So it's clear that someone erased them.
I am not throwing random stuff here just to cause confusion, someone erased the posts and I want to know why?

Bill 7907, the thread shows no sign of any posts being deleted. If they really have disppeared, it was not a mod who did that.

My (and Kate's) earlier remarks to you were based on this:

Quote:

I have a feeling one(or maybe a few) of the Mods are deleting certain ideas, certain elements, certain threads, and even some portions of threads that doesn't suit "the need to know" of the public.

Not helpful and not true: mod activity leaves a very clear data trail behind. Some mods make mistakes. No mods are malicious. But others with certain interests may be.

IF posts are disappearing and it's not a mod who deleted them, then I'm not sure what we can do about it. But (if true) it IS certainly useful to know.

Please understand that we have no way of knowing what has suddenly disappeared if we've not seen the thread and there's no *deleted* label left behind.

Questions are useful, as is hard information. Accusations are not. Kate and I both apologize if we responded too harshly. Accusations are what the mods team do not need right now, and we hope you can understand that from our point of view. Psyops are certainly a possibility (even likely). This is what Kate was referring to in her reply.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rossy_j

Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy need to be more careful in Australia

We do? Please say more.

Very best, Bill

MargueriteBee · 10-31-2008, 10:35 PM

Hi Bill,

I had a post that is no longer there (I just checked.) on this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...highlight=cain

My post was the third one down and was about how I saw on TV McCain say we should open the oil fields in Alaska so they exploit it.

[ This was investigated by the moderators and found to be result of confusion over multiple threads on same topic, see http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...4&postcount=35 -- Anchor.. ]

Myplanet2 · 10-31-2008, 11:11 PM

That's curious. I know the mods are telling the truth about there being no secret activity beyond the normal mod housekeeping duties.

So if it's not them doing the deleting, then this will have to be looked into.

Norval · 11-01-2008, 12:15 AM

Forum hacked?

Several of us now notice that the forum is now not able to link from the top between Camelot and Avelon?!?!? Is this a hack job, or are we all being segrigated now?

Carol · 11-01-2008, 03:05 AM

Actually Norval, Colin has been doing some work on the forum which is why that is happening right now. There are reasonable, logical explanations that are not broadcast everytime something technical is being altered. When it comes to threads being moved or posts altered the mods contact the person who is involved by PM when the change is being made.

Norval · 11-01-2008, 03:19 AM

Thank you Carol, there are only a few thousand, , well hundreds now, of those persons that this affected.

Made_in_Brazil · 11-01-2008, 04:08 AM

Eh. I was kind of excited lurking here and thinking that the threads and posts phenomena were actually collateral effect of virtual timelines madly looping and shifting before my eyes.
There!... then, kaput! Gone somewhere else.... got it! Not there, here.... oooops, back again, but anywhere. Nowhere! But Where?.

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11-01-2008, 05:34 AM

Dear Explorers, Wonderers and Wanderers,

Let's give these TWO very different forums more time to stabilize (stabilise). i have been exploring and discussing the observations mentioned in this thread with Avalon/Camelot as well... Before this thread was formed.

To some of us, It has appeared (i.e. illusion) that unusual/secret/deceptive manipulation has been on-going here. Many hours of discussion (off the forums, of the forums, for the forums) have now been done. The moderators are from many very different backgrounds and experience/inexperience levels (and from all around this little globe). Bill and Kerry have been going through an almost constant state of jet lag for a while now (IMO).... during the same 'time' period as these TWO forums have been growing - from birth 'til now.

One administrator to handle the top-load of Thousands of explorers in TWO forums here (plus at least one other forum on the internet)!

It has many-a-time felt quite frustrating to experience being a non-mod/non-admin forum member and to see how things appear and function from that 'real'-world (forums user) perspective. After noting comments in this thread and from other explorers reporting in here and there--- added to my experiences from the 'field' recently, then communicating directly with others, i now have much more hope to see moderation and thread handling improve rapidly.

i wish to see these TWO separate forums become places for people to exchange ideas, findings, philosophies, etc.... openly and without a sensation or feeling of excessive controls being imposed. Threads have been moving all over the place and fading away at times. These 'problems' have now been clearly addressed.

i Believe that, given a little bit more time and patience here for this new child (the Two forums) and its 'maintenance system' to learn and to grow, things will blossom into what we/you hope for.

Very carefully following the primary-subtle and also not so subtle energies of the forums, over a period of many weeks --- and hearing the heart energies of Bill, i could not sit in the background any longer. Let each of us contribute energy to uplift these forums to a very high tone.

This is for the benefit all beings here - of this little dot in space.

Let's see how things go from here. These TWO forums can be fun and hopefully not focused excessively on any serious doom or fear/predictions. There is plenty of it on the internet for those who love the excitement and suspense. Movies and the daily news are full of exciting fiction and hair-raising stimulation.

For the AVALON Forum:
It makes good sense to be prepared and to exchange information on how to physically and emotionally survive. Almost every generation experiences times of trial. This is part of living in this realm. A well trained (and calm) mind is the best survival tool we can have.

Enjoy the flowers and the creatures.

Enjoy the mountains and the valleys and the meadows.

PS: PLEASE PLEASE Let's Try to post things in logical places to help out. AND put Camelot bits under the Camelot Forum(UFOs/related as well) and Avalon bits in the Avalove Forum.

YOur extra efforts will significantly reduce the problems, confusion and workloads ...

An organized (organised) filing system (papers in alphabetical order please.. just as we were hopefully taught in grade school)...

Remember that data systems and computers Multiply and Amplify errors we introduce into their systems.

Anchor · 11-01-2008, 05:38 AM

Thanks for posting that Henry.

A..

TranceAm · 11-01-2008, 05:48 AM

Henry. That is a very hopeful

first post.

Thanks, so lets start building that community.

MargueriteBee · 11-01-2008, 05:54 AM

I must say that I was completely incorrect about my post being deleted. There was this duplicate thread and I lost track of which was I had posted on.

11-01-2008, 06:28 AM

Hello and a big warm welcome Mr. Deacon! I was so delighted to see you posting here!

I also believe that knowledge is a great tool (combined with and guided by spirit) for physical and emotional survival in these fragile times, as you've said. So, would you care to perhaps start another thread discussing oh, say, the planned war with China? (just for starters)

You have so much to share, this would be a great time and place to continue where you started on Camelot.....what say?

many blessings to you

11-01-2008, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Deacon

i do not believe there are any entities of significance working here to intentionally disrupt either forum. Any active 'entities' who may be in the mods group are powerless here. As long as people can speak freely as they have done in this thread -- humans, 'invisible' beings, agents of secret organizations (organisations), etc. will have no choice but to go on vacation.

Hi Henry welcome 'back'

So I can assume your other aliases here will no longer be necessary?

I am glad you believe there are no malevolent entities 'of note' here... but I am curious about those now 'powerless' mods. To bad about Simon leaving...

I did come across a very disturbing post at another forum... Godlikeproductions actually... Would you happen to know anything about it? The info mentioned is only something a very select few here were party to...

I quote...

Posted by Blissmaker

Henry Deacon - Zorgon et alia

ZORGON ACCUSES HENRY DEACON AND DOES NOT KNOW HENRY DEACON.

HENRY DEACON DID NOT ATTACK ZORGON.
IN FACT IT WAS THE VERY OPPOSITE!

ZORGON KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT the original xxx.lanl.gov link (a url modified and incorrectly quoted/posted in Camelot's original report), SHIVA-NOVAs roots, or any of what HENRY DEACON may have been involved with.

LET's GET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.

I KNOW DR. DEACON AND HE IS NOT PLEASED WITH WHAT ZORGON AND HIS COHORTS ARE DOING. NOT ONLY ARE THERE FALSE ALLEGATIONS AND DISTORTED INFORMATION, BUT ALSO ZORGON AND HIS COHORTS ARE PRESENTING BAD DATA AND DISINFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
CREATING CONFUSION DURING A CRITICAL TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY.

THE TRUE INTENTIONS OF ZORGON ARE UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME.

SOME OF WHAT IS KNOWN ABOUT ZORGON IS STATED ABOVE.

DR. DEACON DOES NOT WISH TO BE INVOLVED IN CONFLICT WITH ANYONE. UNPROFESSIONAL AND IMMATURE BEHAVIOR IS ABHORRED.

HE WISHES ONLY TO PRESENT VALID AND ESSENTIAL DATA TO THE PUBLIC AS NEEDED FOR THEIR SAFETY, WELLBEING AND FOR GUIDANCE THROUGH DIFFICULT TIMES.

THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE MATERIAL QUOTED BELOW - FROM AN ATS POSTING.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage618597/pg1

Also at GLP there is this posting about John Lear leaving this forum.

I quote...

Lear Retreats after being caught red-handed
Quote

Wow! The DisInfo Agent has been exposed and booted out of yet Another forum.

Three Cheers for Project Avalon and their search for truth.

"Let me make it simple for all of us:

This will be my last post on Project Avalon.

And don't ask me back as I have much better uses
for my time than 'working together' and spoon feeding the ignorant.

All the best,

John Lear"

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage608714/pg1

Now since John left over an 'issue' over you... I find it very curious to find this posted at GLP

Would you have any idea who this Blissmaker might be?

Sounds like you are back 'at the helm'

Do you have mod status yet as you did before? Like editing another mods post?

Appreciate any light you could shed on these issues...

Thanks

11-01-2008, 07:48 AM

And now that your back maybe I can get a few answers ...

1) what was the meaning of THIS post?

Henry Deacon
Guest

Exclamation Re: Alice in Wonderland Through the Looking Glass
Please do not post anymore material into this Thread.

It will be moved shortly, to some other area.

FURTHERMORE, unless clearly explained... zorgon will be blocked and we will proceed from there to observe what the Intentions are for posting in this manner.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...59&postcount=7

2) I originally wrote Bill about the material I had about "Looking Glass" (via Dan Burish" and "Project Shiva Nova" through another ex LLNL employee as well as my contact at Boeing.... When I heard you interview I wrote Bill that I had this material to back up what you claimed in your interview...

This was BEFORE Project Avalon opened...

My email was unanswered, and despite an apology from Bill on an Avalon PM that he was busy... the letter still remains unanswered.

It seems ludicrous to me that a supoosed 'whistle blower' would take offense to someone providing documentation for what they talked about in an interview... How silly is that? Is it not the intent of an interview at Project Camelot to share info? Then why the 'harsh' reaction when someone else provides more info?

3) This one is for Bill... When you invited myself and John to participate on this forum, you asked us NOT to scare off Henry Deacon...

My posting the info was not intended to 'scare him off'... I fully expected a thank you for supporting the interview... I did NOT expect a PM from Henry accusing me of being PsysOps and the reaction posted in item one on a public forum.

Since the deletion of the three threads of mine (which have been recovered

) I notice that 'something is not right'.

John also left because he accidentally named 'another poster' as Henry... and has since not heard anything from you or Kerry.

BTW John just got out of five days at the hospital for serious spinal cord surgery... He is doing well... thanks

)

4) Again to Bill.... (or Henry)

In the post above Henry made this comment.

Many hours of discussion (off the forums, of the forums, for the forums) have now been done, after several weeks of "socks made into puppets" interaction, observation, etc. The moderators are from many very different backgrounds and experience/inexperience levels (and from all around this little globe).

So Henry admits to having been on this forum all along after his "goodbye" as 'sock puppets'

I know of at least 5, I am sure there are more...

Is this fair to Avalon members? Care to come clean and tell us all how many 'sock puppets' Henry did have here?

How about the real reason Simon left? Surely the people that make up this forum deserve to know the truth?

I have saved the relevant threads and posts, so in case they are 'hacked' there is a safe copy

I was content to let the mystery play itself out... but since personal attacks started at forums like GLP that I don't even post on attacking my reputation and that of all the members of Pegasus... I cannot remain silent any longer...

I only hope the right thing happens here over the next few days...

Good luck to all... its about to hit the fan....

HaveBlue · 11-01-2008, 08:35 AM

Just a note to you Zorgon that I have read your stuff on open minds and are glad for your intelligence.
If John Lear has left here it's quite understandable. I don't check in here very often myself any more like I did at the start.
Forums such as this will always attract those that are seriously menally ill.
Perhaps a thread just for sqaubbling so those that want to do that can do it.
I've visited and been a member of many different forums on all sorts of different subjects and they all have 'problem' people that whine and contribute nothing.
In the interests of transperancy I would ban them but also have a section where the offending posts can be viewed by others. People could agree or not in that section. Whining off topic in other threads would have the result of them becoming the newest 'banned poster'. Harsh? Maybe,but Avalon is risking becoming a place that will be the laughing stock of the web and all the Gems of real info get buried by rubbish. No disinfo agents needed,no psyops, just a bunch all blaming each other. The PTB laughing and reassured in their conviction that the sheeple cannot run a discussion let alone their own lives and futures!

I can't wait for the 'pay' thread that has been touted. It should sort the wheat from the chaff.

warngen · 11-01-2008, 08:52 AM

Great to see your information Zorgon. If you get dennab, then we know something is up. :P

Kerry Cassidy · 11-01-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorgon

Hi Henry welcome 'back'

So I can assume your other aliases here will no longer be necessary?

I am glad you believe there are no malevolent entities 'of note' here... but I am curious about those now 'powerless' mods. To bad about Simon leaving...

I did come across a very disturbing post at another forum... Godlikeproductions actually... Would you happen to know anything about it? The info mentioned is only something a very select few here were party to...

I quote...

Posted by Blissmaker

Henry Deacon - Zorgon et alia

ZORGON ACCUSES HENRY DEACON AND DOES NOT KNOW HENRY DEACON.

HENRY DEACON DID NOT ATTACK ZORGON.
IN FACT IT WAS THE VERY OPPOSITE!

ZORGON KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT the original xxx.lanl.gov link (a url modified and incorrectly quoted/posted in Camelot's original report), SHIVA-NOVAs roots, or any of what HENRY DEACON may have been involved with.

LET's GET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.

I KNOW DR. DEACON AND HE IS NOT PLEASED WITH WHAT ZORGON AND HIS COHORTS ARE DOING. NOT ONLY ARE THERE FALSE ALLEGATIONS AND DISTORTED INFORMATION, BUT ALSO ZORGON AND HIS COHORTS ARE PRESENTING BAD DATA AND DISINFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
CREATING CONFUSION DURING A CRITICAL TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY.

THE TRUE INTENTIONS OF ZORGON ARE UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME.

SOME OF WHAT IS KNOWN ABOUT ZORGON IS STATED ABOVE.

DR. DEACON DOES NOT WISH TO BE INVOLVED IN CONFLICT WITH ANYONE. UNPROFESSIONAL AND IMMATURE BEHAVIOR IS ABHORRED.

HE WISHES ONLY TO PRESENT VALID AND ESSENTIAL DATA TO THE PUBLIC AS NEEDED FOR THEIR SAFETY, WELLBEING AND FOR GUIDANCE THROUGH DIFFICULT TIMES.

THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE MATERIAL QUOTED BELOW - FROM AN ATS POSTING.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage618597/pg1

Also at GLP there is this posting about John Lear leaving this forum.

I quote...

Lear Retreats after being caught red-handed
Quote

Wow! The DisInfo Agent has been exposed and booted out of yet Another forum.

Three Cheers for Project Avalon and their search for truth.

"Let me make it simple for all of us:

This will be my last post on Project Avalon.

And don't ask me back as I have much better uses
for my time than 'working together' and spoon feeding the ignorant.

All the best,

John Lear"

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage608714/pg1

Now since John left over an 'issue' over you... I find it very curious to find this posted at GLP

Would you have any idea who this Blissmaker might be?

Sounds like you are back 'at the helm'

Do you have mod status yet as you did before? Like editing another mods post?

Appreciate any light you could shed on these issues...

Thanks

Hi Zorgon, Henry et al,

First of all let me say Zorgon, that HD is not at the helm here at Avalon.. He is a whistle blower who does participate in various ways on this an other forums.

He obfuscates when he feels it necessary... but we do not support him in this. We wish for only the truth. That is why we do Project Camelot. Everything we have posted regarding Henry Deacon is what he has agreed to and wished the world to know AT THE TIME. He may now wish to change his testimony... Very well. Let him state openly to the world what he now calls truth and let the world decide, which version of Henry's truth is the real one...

There is nothing wrong with dialog, and I would like to go on record stating that all views are welcome. That includes Zorgon's and Lear's... and Henry Deacon regardless what name he is choosing to mask behind. What's in a name anyway.

Let's deal with the issues rather than bother with the personal attacks. Project Avalon and Camelot forums were set up to provide a place for open dialog to take place.

As far as I am concerned, no editing by Mods is necessary of anything HD, Zorgon or Lear posts...

Let the games begin...

But a word of caution: why not deal with the issues, ie. be they 911 and the holograms that may indeed one day be the false flag alien invasion scenario or other issues that may face humanity as we move into the galactic center...

Kerry

raulduke · 11-01-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerry Cassidy

There is nothing wrong with dialog, and I would like to go on record stating that all views are welcome. That includes Zorgon's and Lear's... and Henry Deacon regardless what name he is choosing to mask behind. What's in a name anyway.

Hi Kerry,

It's good to hear from you and Bill about this controversy.
I agree that this has sidetracked our attention momentarily from more pertinent issues, but I feel like I must continue a little further in the Simon/Deacon issues as it seems that they are somehow related.

I'm confused as HD has stated that:

Quote:

To some of us, It has appeared (i.e. illusion) that unusual/secret/deceptive manipulation has been on-going here

And now you and HD himself seem to agree/admit that HD has been "sock puppeting" under various different member names.

I think for the sake of transparency that we all expect here, we need to know these aliases in full. The vagueness is not helping anything. From what I can see "Bleep" seems to have been a HD sock puppet, although of course I have no way of knowing that. "Bleep" imo has been very subversive and disruptive, so I'm pretty confused here.

If HD admits himself to using these sock puppets, I for one would like to know why and which names were used, as imo that is the definition of secret deceptive manipulation.

AMA-GI · 11-01-2008, 10:58 AM

I pondered writing anything here, But after some time i thought the only thing i should write, would be this, as we all here are family.

A family is a place where minds come in contact with one another. If these minds love one another the home will be as beautiful as a flower garden. But if these minds get out of harmony with one another it is like a storm that plays havoc with the garden.

10-31-2008, 05:27 PM	#1
bill7907 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 115	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Bill Ryan you said that about me: "a range of general accusations which are unhelpful". So are you aware that Zorgon replied to me by talking about the holmes comet? Maybe not because you didn't see the Thread in its original state. PM Zorgon if you want or anyone that was aware of the original state of the Thread. I replied back to his comment, but our 2 posts are not present anymore in Thread. So it's clear that someone erased them. I am not throwing random stuff here just to cause confusion, someone erased the posts and I want to know why?

10-31-2008, 05:54 PM	#3
capreycorn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: switzerland Posts: 455	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion ...blame it on homeland security... must be too easy for them to delete this and that on this forum and create trouble this way... and no one will know what really "hit" the forum. are any computer experts out there who know how many "backdoor-possibilities" exist to do some stealthy modifications? little do we really know about how the computers at their very core are really operating..unless one of us works for one of the 2 "known" (can`t recall the names!) companies in this world. how are we to know? all of what we know is basically what we are told...(allowed to know)

10-31-2008, 06:14 PM	#5
m00g Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 39	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Just read the charter I posted above, adapt that mentality here and all is ok. Its so simple.

10-31-2008, 06:53 PM	#6
Deoxyan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion it should be a hard work to be mod here as there are a little number of them i think.

10-31-2008, 10:35 PM	#8
MargueriteBee Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 216	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Hi Bill, I had a post that is no longer there (I just checked.) on this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...highlight=cain My post was the third one down and was about how I saw on TV McCain say we should open the oil fields in Alaska so they exploit it. [ This was investigated by the moderators and found to be result of confusion over multiple threads on same topic, see http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...4&postcount=35 -- Anchor.. ] Last edited by Anchor; 11-01-2008 at 09:20 AM. Reason: Closure of issue

10-31-2008, 11:11 PM	#9
Myplanet2 In The Mists Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,133	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion That's curious. I know the mods are telling the truth about there being no secret activity beyond the normal mod housekeeping duties. So if it's not them doing the deleting, then this will have to be looked into.

11-01-2008, 12:15 AM	#10
Norval Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: On a boat in Tacoma, wa, usa Posts: 394	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Forum hacked? Several of us now notice that the forum is now not able to link from the top between Camelot and Avelon?!?!? Is this a hack job, or are we all being segrigated now?

11-01-2008, 03:05 AM	#11
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Actually Norval, Colin has been doing some work on the forum which is why that is happening right now. There are reasonable, logical explanations that are not broadcast everytime something technical is being altered. When it comes to threads being moved or posts altered the mods contact the person who is involved by PM when the change is being made. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

11-01-2008, 03:19 AM	#12
Norval Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: On a boat in Tacoma, wa, usa Posts: 394	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Thank you Carol, there are only a few thousand, , well hundreds now, of those persons that this affected.

11-01-2008, 04:08 AM	#13
Made_in_Brazil Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 16	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Eh. I was kind of excited lurking here and thinking that the threads and posts phenomena were actually collateral effect of virtual timelines madly looping and shifting before my eyes. There!... then, kaput! Gone somewhere else.... got it! Not there, here.... oooops, back again, but anywhere. Nowhere! But Where?. ------------------------------------------------------------------- "We are the mystics, the scientists, the artists, the cybernauts, the explorers, the dreamers, the magicians, the visionaries, the shaman, the mapmakers, the lovers, and the healers, stepping out from the fringe, and coming together to redefine the possible."

11-01-2008, 05:34 AM	#14
Henry Deacon Guest Posts: n/a	The Tale of TWO Forums Dear Explorers, Wonderers and Wanderers, Let's give these TWO very different forums more time to stabilize (stabilise). i have been exploring and discussing the observations mentioned in this thread with Avalon/Camelot as well... Before this thread was formed. To some of us, It has appeared (i.e. illusion) that unusual/secret/deceptive manipulation has been on-going here. Many hours of discussion (off the forums, of the forums, for the forums) have now been done. The moderators are from many very different backgrounds and experience/inexperience levels (and from all around this little globe). Bill and Kerry have been going through an almost constant state of jet lag for a while now (IMO).... during the same 'time' period as these TWO forums have been growing - from birth 'til now. One administrator to handle the top-load of Thousands of explorers in TWO forums here (plus at least one other forum on the internet)! It has many-a-time felt quite frustrating to experience being a non-mod/non-admin forum member and to see how things appear and function from that 'real'-world (forums user) perspective. After noting comments in this thread and from other explorers reporting in here and there--- added to my experiences from the 'field' recently, then communicating directly with others, i now have much more hope to see moderation and thread handling improve rapidly. i wish to see these TWO separate forums become places for people to exchange ideas, findings, philosophies, etc.... openly and without a sensation or feeling of excessive controls being imposed. Threads have been moving all over the place and fading away at times. These 'problems' have now been clearly addressed. i Believe that, given a little bit more time and patience here for this new child (the Two forums) and its 'maintenance system' to learn and to grow, things will blossom into what we/you hope for. Very carefully following the primary-subtle and also not so subtle energies of the forums, over a period of many weeks --- and hearing the heart energies of Bill, i could not sit in the background any longer. Let each of us contribute energy to uplift these forums to a very high tone. This is for the benefit all beings here - of this little dot in space. Let's see how things go from here. These TWO forums can be fun and hopefully not focused excessively on any serious doom or fear/predictions. There is plenty of it on the internet for those who love the excitement and suspense. Movies and the daily news are full of exciting fiction and hair-raising stimulation. For the AVALON Forum: It makes good sense to *be prepared* and to exchange information on how to physically and emotionally survive. Almost every generation experiences times of trial. This is part of living in this realm. A well trained (and calm) mind is the best survival tool we can have. Enjoy the flowers and the creatures. Enjoy the mountains and the valleys and the meadows. PS: PLEASE PLEASE Let's Try to post things in logical places to help out. AND put Camelot bits under the Camelot Forum(UFOs/related as well) and Avalon bits in the Avalove Forum. YOur extra efforts will significantly reduce the problems, confusion and workloads ... An organized (organised) filing system (papers in alphabetical order please.. just as we were hopefully taught in grade school)... Remember that data systems and computers Multiply and Amplify errors we introduce into their systems. Last edited by Henry Deacon; 11-01-2008 at 08:02 AM.

11-01-2008, 05:38 AM	#15
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Thanks for posting that Henry. A..

11-01-2008, 05:48 AM	#16
TranceAm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: South Carolina USA Posts: 368	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Henry. That is a very hopeful first post. Thanks, so lets start building that community.

11-01-2008, 05:54 AM	#17
MargueriteBee Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 216	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion I must say that I was completely incorrect about my post being deleted. There was this duplicate thread and I lost track of which was I had posted on.

11-01-2008, 06:28 AM	#18
Mrs. Robinson Guest Posts: n/a	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Hello and a big warm welcome Mr. Deacon! I was so delighted to see you posting here! I also believe that knowledge is a great tool (combined with and guided by spirit) for physical and emotional survival in these fragile times, as you've said. So, would you care to perhaps start another thread discussing oh, say, the planned war with China? (just for starters) You have so much to share, this would be a great time and place to continue where you started on Camelot.....what say? many blessings to you

11-01-2008, 07:48 AM	#20
zorgon Guest Posts: n/a	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion And now that your back maybe I can get a few answers ... 1) what was the meaning of THIS post? Henry Deacon Guest Exclamation Re: Alice in Wonderland Through the Looking Glass Please do not post anymore material into this Thread. It will be moved shortly, to some other area. FURTHERMORE, unless clearly explained... zorgon will be blocked and we will proceed from there to observe what the Intentions are for posting in this manner. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...59&postcount=7 2) I originally wrote Bill about the material I had about "Looking Glass" (via Dan Burish" and "Project Shiva Nova" through another ex LLNL employee as well as my contact at Boeing.... When I heard you interview I wrote Bill that I had this material to back up what you claimed in your interview... This was BEFORE Project Avalon opened... My email was unanswered, and despite an apology from Bill on an Avalon PM that he was busy... the letter still remains unanswered. It seems ludicrous to me that a supoosed 'whistle blower' would take offense to someone providing documentation for what they talked about in an interview... How silly is that? Is it not the intent of an interview at Project Camelot to share info? Then why the 'harsh' reaction when someone else provides more info? 3) This one is for Bill... When you invited myself and John to participate on this forum, you asked us NOT to scare off Henry Deacon... My posting the info was not intended to 'scare him off'... I fully expected a thank you for supporting the interview... I did NOT expect a PM from Henry accusing me of being PsysOps and the reaction posted in item one on a public forum. Since the deletion of the three threads of mine (which have been recovered ) I notice that 'something is not right'. John also left because he accidentally named 'another poster' as Henry... and has since not heard anything from you or Kerry. BTW John just got out of five days at the hospital for serious spinal cord surgery... He is doing well... thanks ) 4) Again to Bill.... (or Henry) In the post above Henry made this comment. Many hours of discussion (off the forums, of the forums, for the forums) have now been done, after several weeks of "socks made into puppets" interaction, observation, etc. The moderators are from many very different backgrounds and experience/inexperience levels (and from all around this little globe). So Henry admits to having been on this forum all along after his "goodbye" as 'sock puppets' I know of at least 5, I am sure there are more... Is this fair to Avalon members? Care to come clean and tell us all how many 'sock puppets' Henry did have here? How about the real reason Simon left? Surely the people that make up this forum deserve to know the truth? I have saved the relevant threads and posts, so in case they are 'hacked' there is a safe copy I was content to let the mystery play itself out... but since personal attacks started at forums like GLP that I don't even post on attacking my reputation and that of all the members of Pegasus... I cannot remain silent any longer... I only hope the right thing happens here over the next few days... Good luck to all... its about to hit the fan....

11-01-2008, 08:35 AM	#21
HaveBlue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 57	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Just a note to you Zorgon that I have read your stuff on open minds and are glad for your intelligence. If John Lear has left here it's quite understandable. I don't check in here very often myself any more like I did at the start. Forums such as this will always attract those that are seriously menally ill. Perhaps a thread just for sqaubbling so those that want to do that can do it. I've visited and been a member of many different forums on all sorts of different subjects and they all have 'problem' people that whine and contribute nothing. In the interests of transperancy I would ban them but also have a section where the offending posts can be viewed by others. People could agree or not in that section. Whining off topic in other threads would have the result of them becoming the newest 'banned poster'. Harsh? Maybe,but Avalon is risking becoming a place that will be the laughing stock of the web and all the Gems of real info get buried by rubbish. No disinfo agents needed,no psyops, just a bunch all blaming each other. The PTB laughing and reassured in their conviction that the sheeple cannot run a discussion let alone their own lives and futures! I can't wait for the 'pay' thread that has been touted. It should sort the wheat from the chaff.

11-01-2008, 08:52 AM	#22
warngen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 92	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion Great to see your information Zorgon. If you get dennab, then we know something is up. :P

11-01-2008, 10:58 AM	#25
AMA-GI Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 220	Re: To Bill and Kerry concerning the Mods and Threads/Posts Deletion I pondered writing anything here, But after some time i thought the only thing i should write, would be this, as we all here are family. A family is a place where minds come in contact with one another. If these minds love one another the home will be as beautiful as a flower garden. But if these minds get out of harmony with one another it is like a storm that plays havoc with the garden.

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