THANKYOU GOD...Obama IS THE PRESIDENT...The Whole World IS WATCHING..& "YES WE CAN"

[cedarboy]

Pineal-Pilot-In Merkabah, I think you are probably one of the most negative people on this site. I know about Brezinski(spelling?) and most of your facts that I don't disagree with. You are knowledgable with facts, or at least what obviously seems to be facts. However, you can't know everything that goes on behind the scenes and must remember that reality is very fluid and changeable. I am no sheeple because I have hope that something can be accomplished within the system. By putting all your energy into hating the system, you give that system power. No struggle is ever won by declaring war on it. Good triumphs over evil, not by fighting fire with fire, but by light dispelling darkness. I keep informed and give my mind food for thought by viewing the most negative scenarios presented by George Green and others. I focus my energy and feed my hope by listening to David Wilcock who is the most positive and just as brilliant as anyone else.

[Orion Morris]

Originally Posted by cedarboy

By putting all your energy into hating the system, you give that system power. No struggle is ever won by declaring war on it. Good triumphs over evil, not by fighting fire with fire

By having hope in the system you also give it power... It is the system that is flawed... Not necessarly the people who are involved in it. The whole system is what is wrong. We have to stop using it.

[cedarboy]

Ctophil, I must disagree with you that Yahweh or Jesus is coming to straighten out the world and make it all better. That idea really is against everything this forum stands for. God will not violate the freewill we have, His most precious gift to us. Jesus showed us the power that we all have, that we are all sons of God. Nobody is going to rescue us. We can, we must, and we will make this a better world. We made a mess of it, and we will fix it. Then Jesus will come to congratulate us and inspire us to higher greatness. I invite you to place your faith in God and God's children. Don't place all your faith in faulty scripture that has been tampered with by man and is not fully understood by anyone. Truth is the consciousness of bliss.

[Tara]

Check out this post from another website. It's very detailed, but more where I'm leaning when it comes to NWO etc. It's all true, but how do the players play?
It's really worth reading through.

http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/e...vote_for_obama

[purplesage]

to all the negative posters on this thread -
your lack of vision for any alternatives reveal how powerless & small you believe you are.
gotta love ya, tho, it wouldn't be much fun if we all agreed.

my apologies to OP for straying.

[David]

Originally Posted by purplesage

to all the negative posters on this thread -
your lack of vision for any alternatives reveal how powerless & small you believe you are.
gotta love ya, tho, it wouldn't be much fun if we all agreed.

my apologies to OP for straying.

I'm still trying to figure out ...what negativity? People are in the process of digesting new information and forming their own opinions in relation to Project Camelot. err at least that's why I'm here.

[Orion Morris]

Originally Posted by purplesage

to all the negative posters on this thread -
your lack of vision for any alternatives reveal how powerless & small you believe you are.
gotta love ya, tho, it wouldn't be much fun if we all agreed.

my apologies to OP for straying.

How is it negative?

Would it be negative to say that the current administration is wrong and evil for doing what they have done?

Did you read Daves post about how he is going to loose employees because of Obamas tax plan and about how small businesses are gonig to go under?

Powerless and small? That sounds negative to me

[cedarboy]

Orion Morris, I know the system is flawed. I would like nothing better than to tear it down and start over. However, reality will not let any of us do that. Sometimes things do change for the better from within. Gorbechav brought down the Soviets from within, and today Russia is more democratic and free than we are. Doing something positive in a flawed and negative system is not adding power to the negativity. It is only making the system less negative. Throwing hatred and fear at a system you want to tear down will only strengthen that system. Love your enemy. That weakens them and gives them the opportunity to switch sides. Does anybody believe Jesus had any wisdom? His Truth should be getting a lot more obvious and understandable in this new coming age. Give Obama a chance before you condemn. Why not give my suggestion in post 29 a try rather than doing nothing. People are sheeple for being blind to hope and opportunity just as much as they are for being overly trusting and gullable.

[purplesage]

negativity as in: doom & gloom, nothing's gonna change.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

obamazoids are begining to appear thick and fast now.. ok lets put it this way. obama doesnt want a new 9/11 investigation, he doesnt want out of iraq, he doesnt want out of afghanistan.. new world order with cheese please... ths nthing hasnt even got started yet and already people are falling inline.. lol @ most of the avalon mystics!!! they have come under the spell of the druidic satanists.. i thought it would have to get really bad before half of avalon gave in and sucked obama kool aid.. most of the people on this forum are a joke.. and morons sorry

[Orion Morris]

Originally Posted by cedarboy

Orion Morris, I know the system is flawed. I would like nothing better than to tear it down and start over. However, reality will not let any of us do that. Sometimes things do change for the better from within. Gorbechav brought down the Soviets from within, and today Russia is more democratic and free than we are. Doing something positive in a flawed and negative system is not adding power to the negativity. It is only making the system less negative. Throwing hatred and fear at a system you want to tear down will only strengthen that system. Love your enemy. That weakens them and gives them the opportunity to switch sides. Does anybody believe Jesus had any wisdom? His Truth should be getting a lot more obvious and understandable in this new coming age. Give Obama a chance before you condemn. Why not give my suggestion in post 29 a try rather than doing nothing. People are sheeple for being blind to hope and opportunity just as much as they are for being overly trusting and gullable.

I have given the skull and bones a chance....
not going to do it again...
sorry...
Like what was previously stated.... He was president of his law class at Harvard...
Sorry but that sounds like same ol same ol to me

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by cedarboy

Ctophil, I must disagree with you that Yahweh or Jesus is coming to straighten out the world and make it all better. That idea really is against everything this forum stands for. God will not violate the freewill we have, His most precious gift to us. Jesus showed us the power that we all have, that we are all sons of God. Nobody is going to rescue us. We can, we must, and we will make this a better world. We made a mess of it, and we will fix it. Then Jesus will come to congratulate us and inspire us to higher greatness. I invite you to place your faith in God and God's children. Don't place all your faith in faulty scripture that has been tampered with by man and is not fully understood by anyone. Truth is the consciousness of bliss.

We fix it? Never will happen. Mankind has gotten us into this mess, and you expect us to fix it? You sit there and preach about faith in God and call His words "faulty?" By the way, Yahweh is not "Jesus." Not even close. Yahweh is the Father of mankind...The Almighty. Try not to be a hypocrite when you talk about God. Part of faith is to follow every word that comes out of His mouth. I believe you have more faith in mankind than Yahweh Himself.

-Phillip

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

I GASP IN AMAZEMENT AT CEDARBOYS COMMENTS.. russian facts aside.. if you live in the usa you are now at the gates of hell.. britain will follow next with some other fabian society ugenecist.. the forum is full of idiot sheep sorry..

cedars comment about russia being more demorcratic and free than the usa just shows howmuch trouble you are in.. THE LATE GREAT USA ....RIP..

[bluestix]

"Camps for everyone... YES WE CAN"

[lotusflower]

To all on the forum who are "disappointed" in the others who have found some happiness in Obama's win---give me a break. I for one am really tired of all this conspiracy stuff. Do I believe certain things to be true??---PTB, 9-11 Inside job, Illumanati, UFO cover-ups...sure....but when does it end? And who am I believing? Insiders..how do I know they don't have their own agendas...I think the true awakening is just to live your life as it is.....what have we done to change anything...all we do is complain and share yotube videos with each other which may have no validiy at all. To all who feel that they are disappointed in the Avalon members who actually feel good about the election...what PROOF do you have that Obama is bad news...f it possible that he could be connected to all these dark forces but still inside knows his own agenda...maybe he has manipulated the powers that be and is actually going to try to bring about positive change.....sorry if this came out negative. I have just been a little frustrated and confused. All I know is when I heard him speak it made me feel good and feeling good isn't all that bad.

[lotusflower]

Space Monkey maybe you are brainswashed into believing what you believe.....all you should claim to "know" is that you know nothing at all.

So far nothing has come true-none of the interviewers have been correct....so how can we still believe what they say??

[THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR]

To the likes of Lotus Flower, Steve_A, Tara, Going To Fast, Pilot, Cedar Boy, David etc...Thankyou for your thoughful and 'reflective posts.

Okay so we need to get a few thing's clear here for the other 'NWO were all going down the s*****r Tag Team' (thank's for that GoingToFast ).

I am NOT an Obamazite, Obamadroid, Obamaclone, Obamadrone or ANY other kind of Obama supporter, nor am I American and no, consequently I did not vote and even if I were an American I would not have voted.

This thread was not created to become a discussion of the political process of our times, it did not place any worth or value on the state of politics, or even the existence of a political system or the point (or not) of having any political leaders.

However some of you seem to have missunderstood my title and or my reasons for creating such a thread and have focused only on using it as a platform to verbally assasinate Obama and anyone who wishes to express joy or hope at this moment.

This my friends is a foolish and small minded folly on your part and as I said in my previous posts - 'AS YOU THINK SO YOU CREATE'!

So let's clear up a few points:

It does NOT matter if Obama is controlled or not, it does not matter if the entire Global Economic System fails under his command, it does not matter who did or didn't fund him, it does not matter if he is or is not the Anti Christ, it does not matter who is or is not behind/guiding him - Zebrig, BigZig or ZigZag or Lord of the Dark Dance ZogZog Zigzogadon, It does not matter if he creates paece or tries out war options....
I could go on and on but let me spare you all and get to the point:

The bigger, BIGGER PICTURE, when you come out of all your silly accusations, petty judgements, squabbling and nit picking point making, some of which I have to say you 'doom and gloom crew' is utterly pointless and pathetic...The bigger picture is....sssshhhh now don't tell everbody coz (whisper) some people are just not ready to hear this yet...

The BIGGEST 'wide screen cinema sound surround system' version of THE BIG PICTURE...IS...

"THAT IT'S ALL MEANT TO BE HAPPENING"!!!!!

Dowwwwhhhhhhhhh, all you small minded conspiracy nutz, get out of you your closed down nuclear bomb proofed bedrooms and armoured tactical bomb proofed beds and CLEAR YOUR HEADS!

Sorry guy's but you are as if not more stuck than the so called 'sheeple' that you so evidently judge and critisize.

If the so called 'system' meaning political, financial, monetary or anything that has 'power over us' is meant to fail to allow the current paradigm to 'collapse in on itself', then Obama or no Obama it surely will.

If Obama is meant to 'play for the dark team' and bring America to it's knees, then he absolutely will and that will become self evident in the months and years to come...and it will be EXACTLY as it's meant to be!

The point is simply this: The fact that he has been elected is THE POINT, not what you think you know or think about him...This moment IS a 'signal' that THE CHANGE has truly begun and WHERE we collectively CHOOSE to go with it now is what actually matters and will determine Mankinds Future!

Yes the world is going to change enormously over the next few years and no it probably won't be pretty or comfortable for many. Yes you middle class Americans may lose your businesses and I am sorry and all that, but do you think your wage packets count for a sausage in the higher order of things. Do you think your eternal soul cares for a moment about the THINGS of this earth?

The 'False Prophets' some of you are ranting on about...Did any of you stop to consider 'False PROFITS'? Look at all the greed and hoarding of wealth and objects in the world and some might say Americans are at the top of this money, money, money need and greed idolatry. Just look at how the 'Cult of Celebrity' has been used to trick you all into thinking you need to 'be like them', to have more and more.

Cars, houses, pools, designer labels, mega cribs, and so on and so forth...you have been decieved at the highest order, in plain site, under your very nose and you just don't geddit...THE False Messiah IS MONEY!!!

But the trick has gone on for so long and has been so all encompassing and impressed into your psyche for millenia that you cannot even see the magicians hand at work.

So on and on mankind has gone wandering in a garden of trinkets and thing's, misguided, lost, stumbling over one another to aquire more and more wealth and slowly over time with this pursuit of the external we LOST the key's to the kingdom.

The illusion is that the anwser lies out there somewhere, that we can somehow find happiness in the material world, that the 'secret key' can be found in some thing, some one or some place...

Obama and his like are just portents of a far wider, bigger and deeper change than any of us can yet imagine and he like all the others is here at this time to play his 'catalystic part' in our collective process. Someone very clever once wrote "All the world is a stage and everyone upon it is playing his part"...

Try to remember we all chose to be here and PLAY OUR PART in the game of life so our souls would grow and develop, Obama is just playing his part and to judge him is to judge yourself, to hate him is to hate yourself, to despise him is to despise yourself, to have disgust for him is to have disgust for YOURSELF! WE ARE ONE, HE IS YOU, YOU ARE HIM!

Money as a system has to fail because it is at the very heart of what controls mankind, or at the very least be completely reset in the hearts and minds of men. Obama may be the harbinger of Revolution or Devolution it matters not which he is, the point is only that 'CHANGE IS COMING and EVERYTHING IS EXACTLY AS IT IS MEANT TO BE'!!

So for goodness sakes lighten up guy's, some of you definately need a break from your computers and take something for your New World Orderitous, or you might just die while your still alive...."Step Away From The Vehicle". Haha lol.

We are here to find OUR truth, to be couragous and compassionate and to PLAY within this amazing 'Creational Matrix' with as much Joy and Laughter and Love as we can manage to find within us.

As someone once said..."Those that live by the sword shall die by the sword"...and someone else said "The pen is mightier than the sword"...So please THINK about what you write and how you communicate with one another!

Finally I will leave you with this one all important thought and I hope you 'get it' coz some of you really need to:

"YOUR THOUGHT'S OF TODAY...ARE...THE SCAFFOLDING...OF YOUR BUILDING'S OF TOMMOROW"!

Ciao for now Avalonian's and love and light to you 'Negative Dronians' , haha lol...WAKEY, WAKEY!!

PEACE OUT ...and I Smile

Originally Posted by lotusflower

To all on the forum who are "disappointed" in the others who have found some happiness in Obama's win---give me a break. I for one am really tired of all this conspiracy stuff. Do I believe certain things to be true??---PTB, 9-11 Inside job, Illumanati, UFO cover-ups...sure....but when does it end? And who am I believing? Insiders..how do I know they don't have their own agendas...I think the true awakening is just to live your life as it is.....what have we done to change anything...all we do is complain and share yotube videos with each other which may have no validiy at all. To all who feel that they are disappointed in the Avalon members who actually feel good about the election...what PROOF do you have that Obama is bad news...f it possible that he could be connected to all these dark forces but still inside knows his own agenda...maybe he has manipulated the powers that be and is actually going to try to bring about positive change.....sorry if this came out negative. I have just been a little frustrated and confused. All I know is when I heard him speak it made me feel good and feeling good isn't all that bad.

[bilderburger w/cheese]

bilderburger with cheese
bilderberger hotel and casino
Utrechtseweg 261, 6862 AK
Oosterbeek, Netherlands

Dear Peaceful Warrior,

as a 'trilateral' member of the "NWO we are all going down the sh----r tag team", i certainly agree that it doesnt matter if obama is controlled or not. what does matter is that some people here act as if obama is some messiah.

if you dont think that obama is some godsend, would you feel this glorious if mccain won? of course you wouldnt. but it shouldnt matter according to your theory, because things are moving along progressively in our favor whether regardless of the election outcome.

you should know its all eyewash for the general public, and theres absolutely no reason to celebrate EXCEPT that we are one day closer to the beginning of the new paradigm and the conclusion of this reality.

if you wish to celebrate that a landmark occasion has taken place so we are moving along as planned into victory, thats one thing (and one that i believe my fellow colleagues (LOL) here would most certainly agree, however id never be so presumptuous as to speak for them. but... to have a thread entitled, "thank you god... obama is the president" immediately means to me that you have emptied out your above ground pool, dumped in 8000 gallons of obama kool-aid, and are now swimming in it.


lets agree that on the following two points:

- its a great thing that we have finally moved past this election, regardless of the outcome.
- obama, in all truthfulness, deserves as much praise as GW bush since it is all about manifesting a new reality for humankind, not deifying any one person who might help bring about a new existence for mankind. everything is bringing about change in a new way.



sincerely,

bilderburger with cheese
treasurer, doom and gloom crew
member, directors board, CFR (Council on Forum Realism)

[THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR]

Originally Posted by bilderburger w/cheese

bilderburger with cheese
bilderberger hotel and casino
Utrechtseweg 261, 6862 AK
Oosterbeek, Netherlands

Dear Peaceful Warrior,

as a 'trilateral' member of the "NWO we are all going down the sh----r tag team", i certainly agree that it doesnt matter if obama is controlled or not. what does matter is that some people here act as if obama is some messiah.

if you dont think that obama is some godsend, would you feel this glorious if mccain won? of course you wouldnt. but it shouldnt matter according to your theory, because things are moving along progressively in our favor whether regardless of the election outcome.

you should know its all eyewash for the general public, and theres absolutely no reason to celebrate EXCEPT that we are one day closer to the beginning of the new paradigm and the conclusion of this reality.

if you wish to celebrate that a landmark occasion has taken place so we are moving along as planned into victory, thats one thing (and one that i believe my fellow colleagues (LOL) here would most certainly agree, however id never be so presumptuous as to speak for them. but... to have a thread entitled, "thank you god... obama is the president" immediately means to me that you have emptied out your above ground pool, dumped in 8000 gallons of obama kool-aid, and are now swimming in it.


lets agree that on the following two points:

- its a great thing that we have finally moved past this election, regardless of the outcome.
- obama, in all truthfulness, deserves as much praise as GW bush since it is all about manifesting a new reality for humankind, not deifying any one person who might help bring about a new existence for mankind. everything is bringing about change in a new way.



sincerely,

bilderburger with cheese
treasurer, doom and gloom crew
member, directors board, CFR (Council on Forum Realism)

Dear Bilderbutger with Cheese,
Thankyou for your commenys they are thoughtful and gratefully recieved.

In reply to your points:

I certainley hope people do not regard Obama as the 'new messiah' I certainley do not and that was never the point I was trying to make, I apologise to everyone if in any way this was misunderstood.

I hope I did not come across as sounding 'glorious' this was also not my intention, however no I would not feel as 'up' as I do if McCain had won because from my perspective that would have indicated that there had been no 'shift' in the current paradigm.

I don't think Obama himself as in the person is a 'Godsend' as you seem to ne implying, but his being elected IS a 'leading indicator' that movement HAS now occured and thing's are in motion so to speak.

You said: "because things are moving along progressively in our favor whether regardless of the election outcome."...CORRECT!

You also said: "theres absolutely no reason to celebrate EXCEPT that we are one day closer to the beginning of the new paradigm and the conclusion of this reality."...Again 100% CORRECT and I have to say my friend that IS why we should be celebrating, the marbles are rolling and the dice are in play!

Your point: "to have a thread entitled, "thank you god... obama is the president" immediately means to me that you have emptied out your above ground pool, dumped in 8000 gallons of obama kool-aid, and are now swimming in it."

Haha lol, very good and very funny BBwC glad to see your sense of humour there. To be clear I wrote the thread from a point of relief that 'thing's have not stagnated' with yet another 'fixed' Republican election win and that as I have already stated we are well and truly game on!

I do apologise if my use of the words "Thank God" in the title were misunderstood, I did not intend to confuse you or anyone else.

Your final 2 points: "its a great thing that we have finally moved past this election, regardless of the outcome.
obama, in all truthfulness, deserves as much praise as GW bush since it is all about manifesting a new reality for humankind, not deifying any one person who might help bring about a new existence for mankind. everything is bringing about change in a new way.

Yes I totally agree, nuff said...

Now then I better go and have a jolly good splash around in my 'Obama Coolaid' filled swimming pool before putting the finidhing touches to my '15 foot Gold Obama Statue' that I am building in the garden for my local church, haha lol...

Respect and Love BBwC...

Kindest Regards

PEACEFUL WARRIOR

[Allie]

Originally Posted by THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR

*it does not matter who is or is not behind/guiding him - Zebrig, BigZig or ZigZag or Lord of the Dark Dance ZogZog Zigzogadon,

Warrior - you have given me the biggest smile of the day here And yes, I do see what you were saying.Folks - I don't really see any constructive or supported arguments here. All I see is a load of insults along the lines of 'Obamazoid' and 'Sheeple' - which, with all due respect, does not constitute a balanced 'arguement'.No one has answered the question I've posed a few times; why, when, say, Blossom, Bill. D. or M. St Clair get it wrong, do those who have firmly taken their point of view not cry 'Sheeple' on themselves?

[GoingToFast]

I've been following this thread and I can clearly see a small click of members who are wery anti-Obama and who are posting ferosiously over and over again very negative about Obama, I almost get a "tag-team" feeling about them and there posts, wery interesting indeed, maby they are just sore loosers. Buy the way have you seen the news today and the pictures from all over America of ordinary people who are crying of happines for there new President, THEY ARE NOT SORE LOOSERS.

[pilot]

Originally Posted by ctophil

We fix it? Never will happen. Mankind has gotten us into this mess, and you expect us to fix it? You sit there and preach about faith in God and call His words "faulty?" By the way, Yahweh is not "Jesus." Not even close. Yahweh is the Father of mankind...The Almighty. Try not to be a hypocrite when you talk about God. Part of faith is to follow every word that comes out of His mouth. I believe you have more faith in mankind than Yahweh Himself.

-Phillip

I don't appreciate being preached at Phillip, and I am sure others feel the same way. Maybe you could find another forum where people might actually take you seriously and learn from you-most here are not into dogma of any stripe. Also, you seem so angry, what's up with that? If you believe what you say you believe-why are you not at peace with life??

[bilderburger w/cheese]

i suppose i am lumped into the negative poster category by the ''obamazoids" (great term, pilot). im not negative-- im a realist. stop making this obama election into a racial issue. thats a PTB seperation strategy.

do you think that obama is really going to do something to nebulously 'change' things?? do you have faith in the sheeple to elect the right guy for change? are you aware that the sheeple also reelected ted stevens in alaska after he was CONVICTED of felony corruption 8 days ago? CONVICTED on 7 counts... and when sentenced, could face 35 years in prison... and he was STILL reelected.

http://news.aol.com/elections/articl...-resign/228528


oblivious obamazoids = ordinary folks not grasping the federal reserve racket.

i care for my fellow project avaloners, but you people are duped. please, wake up soon (or later, but youll be in for a surprise when you see obama hand of cards).

[Tara]

Originally Posted by bilderburger w/cheese

i suppose i am lumped into the negative poster category by the ''obamazoids" (great term, pilot). im not negative-- im a realist. stop making this obama election into a racial issue. thats a PTB seperation strategy.

do you think that obama is really going to do something to nebulously 'change' things?? do you have faith in the sheeple to elect the right guy for change? are you aware that the sheeple also reelected ted stevens in alaska after he was CONVICTED of felony corruption 8 days ago? CONVICTED on 7 counts... and when sentenced, could face 35 years in prison... and he was STILL reelected.

http://news.aol.com/elections/articl...-resign/228528


oblivious obamazoids = ordinary folks not grasping the federal reserve racket.

i care for my fellow project avaloners, but you people are duped. please, wake up soon (or later, but youll be in for a surprise when you see obama hand of cards).

We know about the Federal Reserve. Some battles have to be fought from the inside. I don't think we're being duped. I think we're hopeful. What is your solution? What are you doing to change things? What guidance can you give the brainwashed obama supporters? Yes, I know about crazy Ted Stevens. He is getting kicked out of the senate even though they voted him back in. Alaskans voted for Palin, what do you expect? Maybe Palin can appoint herself to the senate and take Hillary moose hunting.