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Old 11-11-2008, 10:34 PM   #1
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Actually I find it a little amusing how E=MC^2 mentioned a lot.

It is basically Newtons F=ma taken to the extreme if you look at it for a mo
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:14 PM   #2
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Actually I find it a little amusing how E=MC^2 mentioned a lot.

It is basically Newtons F=ma taken to the extreme if you look at it for a mo
However, there is a HUGE difference between linear and exponential acceleration (aka power, first and second). I can tell that time may seem to be linear, but I sure am experiencing it in an exponential fashion :-p That's a thinker for ya hehe.
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:03 PM   #3
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i didn't want to make a new thread for this question but this is the most appropriate one...

why aren't marko rodin and nassim haramein collaborating?! they both live in hawaii...you'd think two geniuses would find each other on an island. they're perfect for each other! think of what 2 great minds could do together!
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:09 PM   #4
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i didn't want to make a new thread for this question but this is the most appropriate one...

why aren't marko rodin and nassim haramein collaborating?! they both live in hawaii...you'd think two geniuses would find each other on an island. they're perfect for each other! think of what 2 great minds could do together!
Yes...I wish they'd get the 'unlimited food' thing invented! That was listed in the first minute of the four and a half hour Rodin video on Vortex Mathematics......
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:41 PM   #5
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Yes...I wish they'd get the 'unlimited food' thing invented! That was listed in the first minute of the four and a half hour Rodin video on Vortex Mathematics......
Well torsion is based on the spin of an atom, or an object, the rotation of it. Increasing the rotation is the same in terms of speed as in a linear motion, but it is circular, which generates gravity. But in this, if you relate this to the experiment DW mentioned in Divine Cosmos, if the torsion fields are increased to a certain point, then the spacetime continuum will be inverted, aka the object which was a pyramid disappears from our perspective in this reality as I would assume that means the object reaches the speed of light. Time has been shown to be affected by torsion fields. So using the same concepts within this experiment, while refining it with some of Ed's work (using his magneto from a Ford model T which was designed by John Keely), you can speed up time and cause the plant to grow at a tremendous rate. I think this would work best if you do this in an aqueous solution (hydroponically) versus soil, with using a UV light, I feel you could indeed accelerate growth a tremendous amount. Wow, I just thought of that all right now. I think I just thought of one bad ass science experiment, and I know just the plant to use it on hehe.
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Old 11-13-2008, 06:29 PM   #6
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Well torsion is based on the spin of an atom, or an object, the rotation of it. Increasing the rotation is the same in terms of speed as in a linear motion, but it is circular, which generates gravity. But in this, if you relate this to the experiment DW mentioned in Divine Cosmos, if the torsion fields are increased to a certain point, then the spacetime continuum will be inverted, aka the object which was a pyramid disappears from our perspective in this reality as I would assume that means the object reaches the speed of light. Time has been shown to be affected by torsion fields. So using the same concepts within this experiment, while refining it with some of Ed's work (using his magneto from a Ford model T which was designed by John Keely), you can speed up time and cause the plant to grow at a tremendous rate. I think this would work best if you do this in an aqueous solution (hydroponically) versus soil, with using a UV light, I feel you could indeed accelerate growth a tremendous amount. Wow, I just thought of that all right now. I think I just thought of one bad ass science experiment, and I know just the plant to use it on hehe.

Go, go, go Arturo.....get the 'fast-food-fing' invented !!!

(ps FOOD I said......can't eat weeds... )

edit to say...well we can of course (eat weeds)....but you know what I'm joking about.

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Old 11-13-2008, 06:59 PM   #7
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Go, go, go Arturo.....get the 'fast-food-fing' invented !!!

(ps FOOD I said......can't eat weeds... )

edit to say...well we can of course (eat weeds)....but you know what I'm joking about.
Yes, I am right there with ya. However, in terms of buds or flowers, it would be the coolest thing to see them grow and open up before your eyes. Think of a rose alone. Mmmm beauty....
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:05 PM   #8
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Yes, I am right there with ya. However, in terms of buds or flowers, it would be the coolest thing to see them grow and open up before your eyes. Think of a rose alone. Mmmm beauty....
Wow...that is a fantastic thought....living ART.

I just love all those speeded up film of things growing.

The 'Fast-Fing' could create LIVING ART...my head is spinning with the thought.
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:28 AM   #9
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Go, go, go Arturo.....get the 'fast-food-fing' invented !!!

(ps FOOD I said......can't eat weeds... )

edit to say...well we can of course (eat weeds)....but you know what I'm joking about.
hey this gives me a sarcastic idea. i may be thinking out loud here but think of how much money you could (infinitely) make if you subjected marijuana plants to this process?
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:11 AM   #10
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hey this gives me a sarcastic idea. i may be thinking out loud here but think of how much money you could (infinitely) make if you subjected marijuana plants to this process?
Oh it would destroy Maine's agricultural economy lol. It's our number one cash crop hahahaha. That's another thing too, as mary jane is a big part of Maine's heritage here, just like as some may know with Vermont. I can openly talk about the subject with teachers and adults because many partake in the activities themselves. You have a bunch more smokers than drinkers here, and plenty of it is locally grown. If you get caught with up to an ounce here as long as its in a single bag, its a $200 parking violation literally haha.

My friends get caught smoking in Portland, and the cops will confiscate the stuff only and just say, "Hey don't be dumb and do this in public. I don't wanna catch ya again."

The greatest advancement this could bring though is accelerated tree growth. Replant the planet plus mega wood supplies woot woot!
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:41 PM   #11
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hey greg i emailed the resonance project but it appears my emails cant get through!!!!!!!!!!! says delivery failure notification!!! i joined the mailking list and managed to reply to the conformation link... i asked if they have seen the www.code144.com video.. all these cats need to get together and do it quick.. your all on the right track!!!!!! man its gonna be a rocky next 4 years!!!!
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:57 PM   #12
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I've followed this same line of research and came to the same harmonic and resonate frequencies
as you did in the spreadsheet, however did not feel the need to contribute.
Thank you for taking the time to present it to a broader audience...

However, it's my firm belief the the time for intellectualizing is at an end, and that it's
Thelema, right action of Will that manifest the beneficial outcome that is possible through this
proper use of technology.

In order balance the music system and make real usage of this information and sound technology
it has to be put to use.

I would be interested in producing a book and a product for musicians, and music lovers,
with this information.
And would like to come together to talk about possible approaches to doing this.

My initial thoughts on how to spearhead a project like this:

1) Take the digital versions of classical pieces done by Beethoven, Mozart, and the likes,
and feed them to a piece of audio generation software that has been "tuned" with the Solf. scale.
Produce an array of copyright free music from these classical pieces in the correct scale.
This is a start to get people hear the harmony and effect of this music in contrast to the err'ed
music being produced atm.

2) Produce a mainstream book with leaders in the field that who will collaborate on the project.
Establishing contact with someone who's name is already branded to music, or vibrational healing,
and presenting them with a draft and get them on board. Obviously, the final goal is to publish
these work and it's practical application on the shelves where "new" musicians and upcoming
generations can learn about it.

3) Produce a new "tuning" harmonical and other tuning devices musicians can purchase to re-tune their
instruments to the solf. freq. Something that costs, $20 - rather than $50 per tuning fork.

4) Custom order instruments from manufacturers of the upcoming "Hang Drum" or even basic guitars
and stock an online store with emphasis on revolutionary music by virtue of mathematical perfection
in the instruments themselves.

5) A BAND of musicians that are pleasing to a wide audience, ie alternative music, or rock and such
that has it's "angle" or news worthly aspect of it's self being that the music they play is perfect -
in relation to mathematical correspondences. I imagine Tesla Coils going off, alien sounding
instruments and a humble personae to the members of such a band.

I see these, or a integration of these on one large project with many collective minds working towards
the realization of the ideal of "Retuning the music instruments of the world into divine and mathematical
perfection for the healing of humanity" would be a way to actualize this information.

To make this happen, a movement needs to be established. A place of communication, and a "leader" in
the field to spearhead the movement and keep people inspired and motivated until it comes through to fruition...

If these actions aren't taken, then nothing changes and the opportunity at hand will slip away like a fading dream.

If these actions ARE taken, and taken well, you can see the actualization of a dream that will never be forgotten.

Adam K.

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Old 11-13-2008, 06:55 PM   #13
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I've followed this same line of research and came to the same harmonic and resonate frequencies
as you did in the spreadsheet, however did not feel the need to contribute.
Thank you for taking the time to present it to a broader audience...

However, it's my firm belief the the time for intellectualizing is at an end, and that it's
Thelema, right action of Will that manifest the beneficial outcome that is possible through this
proper use of technology.

In order balance the music system and make real usage of this information and sound technology
it has to be put to use.

I would be interested in producing a book and a product for musicians, and music lovers,
with this information.
And would like to come together to talk about possible approaches to doing this.

My initial thoughts on how to spearhead a project like this:

1) Take the digital versions of classical pieces done by Beethoven, Mozart, and the likes,
and feed them to a piece of audio generation software that has been "tuned" with the Solf. scale.
Produce an array of copyright free music from these classical pieces in the correct scale.
This is a start to get people hear the harmony and effect of this music in contrast to the err'ed
music being produced atm.

2) Produce a mainstream book with leaders in the field that who will collaborate on the project.
Establishing contact with someone who's name is already branded to music, or vibrational healing,
and presenting them with a draft and get them on board. Obviously, the final goal is to publish
these work and it's practical application on the shelves where "new" musicians and upcoming
generations can learn about it.

3) Produce a new "tuning" harmonical and other tuning devices musicians can purchase to re-tune their
instruments to the solf. freq. Something that costs, $20 - rather than $50 per tuning fork.

4) Custom order instruments from manufacturers of the upcoming "Hang Drum" or even basic guitars
and stock an online store with emphasis on revolutionary music by virtue of mathematical perfection
in the instruments themselves.

5) A BAND of musicians that are pleasing to a wide audience, ie alternative music, or rock and such
that has it's "angle" or news worthly aspect of it's self being that the music they play is perfect -
in relation to mathematical correspondences. I imagine Tesla Coils going off, alien sounding
instruments and a humble personae to the members of such a band.

I see these, or a integration of these on one large project with many collective minds working towards
the realization of the ideal of "Retuning the music instruments of the world into divine and mathematical
perfection for the healing of humanity" would be a way to actualize this information.

To make this happen, a movement needs to be established. A place of communication, and a "leader" in
the field to spearhead the movement and keep people inspired and motivated until it comes through to fruition...

If these actions aren't taken, then nothing changes and the opportunity at hand will slip away like a fading dream.

If these actions ARE taken, and taken well, you can see the actualization of a dream that will never be forgotten.

Adam K.
Adam I love you passion! However, you need to realize that the twelve note scale is what the music needs to be focused on, not the Solfeggio frequencies. The 12 note scale I have worked out, as many others have, is based on prime numbers. The Solfeggio frequencies are sacred frequencies that I do not fully grasp their mathematical significance besides the quantum numbers in sequential order 9,3,6,9,3,6 (low to high frequency).



Now if you look at the list above, the base number is the lowest octave of a Solfeggio frequency that is an integer. The two of interest are 33 and 99 hertz, Mi and Ut respectively. Mi also is an octave 66 hertz. Now if you look at the ratios which are made by taken the frequency and dividing it by the note in it's upper range (396 hertz divided by 409.6 hertz, note E). The first ratio is based on the twelve note harmonic scale of primes. The second ratio is the note from a perfect fifth (what I was originally using for a scale). Both Ut and Mi have the same ratios. Both are related to factors of three of each other. Actually I just looked at Fa and La, and it applies the exact same, but not with Re and Sol. However, Re and Sol both involve the same integers but flipped around in opposite positions for each integer. '33' is also known as Christ Consciousness I believe. That's what made it stand out for me.

I am pretty sure that most of the classical music is using Verni tuning, which I know is more mathematically precise but I don't know what it uses exactly, either: C256, A432, or C256/A432 (if that makes sense) for a harmonic twelve note scale.
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Adam I love you passion! However, you need to realize that the twelve note scale is what the music needs to be focused on, not the Solfeggio frequencies. The 12 note scale I have worked out, as many others have, is based on prime numbers. The Solfeggio frequencies are sacred frequencies that I do not fully grasp their mathematical significance besides the quantum numbers in sequential order 9,3,6,9,3,6 (low to high frequency).



Now if you look at the list above, the base number is the lowest octave of a Solfeggio frequency that is an integer. The two of interest are 33 and 99 hertz, Mi and Ut respectively. Mi also is an octave 66 hertz. Now if you look at the ratios which are made by taken the frequency and dividing it by the note in it's upper range (396 hertz divided by 409.6 hertz, note E). The first ratio is based on the twelve note harmonic scale of primes. The second ratio is the note from a perfect fifth (what I was originally using for a scale). Both Ut and Mi have the same ratios. Both are related to factors of three of each other. Actually I just looked at Fa and La, and it applies the exact same, but not with Re and Sol. However, Re and Sol both involve the same integers but flipped around in opposite positions for each integer. '33' is also known as Christ Consciousness I believe. That's what made it stand out for me.

I am pretty sure that most of the classical music is using Verni tuning, which I know is more mathematically precise but I don't know what it uses exactly, either: C256, A432, or C256/A432 (if that makes sense) for a harmonic twelve note scale.
So be it. That's a step forward. A 12 note scale. If you notice, the Solf. freq are each separate by 111 with except of the middle notes in either direction. You can expand this up and down to create a total of 12 notes, and figure out their corresponding equivalents per octave, (approx 56 for each prime per note, taking the F# as your starting point, not C.

Perhaps you can enlighten me - why is there only 12 notes in our music system? It seems odd to me there is a black key missing on the piano per octave. And my understanding of the Egyptians, is that they operated on a 13 note system. The number 13 is closer to the true workings of nature than 12. In fact, a 12 based system seems obviously flawed when we take a look at the sacred numerology and phi or Fibonacci series. Our original calendar system, and zodiac was based off of 13. And since music is geometry in time/space, why not use a system of numbers that better resembles our true time/space reality, which would be 13.
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:11 PM   #15
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So be it. That's a step forward. A 12 note scale. If you notice, the Solf. freq are each separate by 111 with except of the middle notes in either direction. You can expand this up and down to create a total of 12 notes, and figure out their corresponding equivalents per octave, (approx 56 for each prime per note, taking the F# as your starting point, not C.

Perhaps you can enlighten me - why is there only 12 notes in our music system? It seems odd to me there is a black key missing on the piano per octave. And my understanding of the Egyptians, is that they operated on a 13 note system. The number 13 is closer to the true workings of nature than 12. In fact, a 12 based system seems obviously flawed when we take a look at the sacred numerology and phi or Fibonacci series. Our original calendar system, and zodiac was based off of 13. And since music is geometry in time/space, why not use a system of numbers that better resembles our true time/space reality, which would be 13.
I'd have to get back to on most of that, however, technically it is considered 13 notes, as at the end of the 12 notes it reverts back to C.
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Seems everywhere i look these days its all related, another name for vortex's is Victor Schauberger, but im sure you'll have heard of him.

Read a mention of 528 so,
According to Dr Len Horowitz some leading genetic bio chemist suggest frequency 528 is the miraculous repair frequency for damaged DNA.
There is a special sound and color of love according to Dr. Horowitz, a Harvard-trained award-winning investigator. Broadcasting the right frequency can help open your heart, prompt peace, and hasten healing. "We now know the love signal, 528 Hertz, is among the six core creative frequencies of the universe because math doesn't lie, the geometry of physical reality universally reflects this music; these findings have been independently derived, peer reviewed, and empirically validated," Dr. Horowitz says.

The Solfeggio Scale and note names;

1. UT...396 Hz (Center Pillar of the Tree)
2. RE...417 Hz (Left Pillar of the Tree)
3. MI...528 Hz (Right Pillar of the Tree)
4. FA...639 Hz (Center Pillar of the Tree) 5. SOL..741 Hz (Left Pillar of the Tree)
6. LA...852 Hz (Right Pillar of the Tree)

UT - 396 Hz -associated with releasing emotional patterns after: see RE-417Hz below.

RE - 417 Hz -associated with breaking up crystalized emotional patterns

MI - 528 Hz - relates to crown chakra; Dr. Puleo suggests an association with "DNA integrity" Transformation and Miracles

FA - 639 Hz - associated with whole brain quadrant interconnectedness. Connecting Relationships

SOL - 741 Hz - associated with intuitive states, non linear knowing. Awakening Intuition

LA - 852 Hz - associated with a pure love frequency: unconditional love and returning to Spiritual Order

The regular "C"that we all know of ; in this culture
(which is from the diatonic scale of do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti, do)
is not the 528 Hz frequency "C.

A regular "C" vibrates at a frequency of 523.3 Hz and that is 4.7 Hz lower.

The "C" of 528 Hz used for DNA repair is part of an ancient scale called the Solfeggio Scale. Dr Rife was another among the first to discover, how the frequency 528 strengthens the cell wall.

its all good, have a great day
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:53 PM   #17
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i too have just got into victor shauberger and looking at kaballah. i naturally came to the sound and color frequency thing in my research... never did hiher level math tho this thread is getting out of hand woo woo this stuff is what avalon was made for

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A regular "C" vibrates at a frequency of 523.3 Hz and that is 4.7 Hz lower.

The "C" of 528 Hz used for DNA repair is part of an ancient scale called the Solfeggio Scale. Dr Rife was another among the first to discover, how the frequency 528 strengthens the cell wall.

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Not to argue, but just to inform you, C is the fundamental tone (the letter technically doesn't matter, just the frequency and note of the position). As it is the fundamental tone it is based off the first prime which is 2. Thus all notes of C are octaves of 2, which is always based on the doubling/halving of a note (also multiples of 2), thus C is also 256 an 512 hertz. You can have different tunings, in which that frequency works as C (music more importantly is based off mathematical patterns versus the actual frequency), however, these frequencies are the most natural.
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Not to argue, but just to inform you, C is the fundamental tone (the letter technically doesn't matter, just the frequency and note of the position). As it is the fundamental tone it is based off the first prime which is 2. Thus all notes of C are octaves of 2, which is always based on the doubling/halving of a note (also multiples of 2), thus C is also 256 an 512 hertz. You can have different tunings, in which that frequency works as C (music more importantly is based off mathematical patterns versus the actual frequency), however, these frequencies are the most natural.
Cool thanks, I get you
I just thought it was an interesting aside,
Good luck and health.
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................. C is the fundamental tone (the letter technically doesn't matter, just the frequency and note of the position). As it is the fundamental tone it is based off the first prime which is 2. Thus all notes of C are octaves of 2, which is always based on the doubling/halving of a note (also multiples of 2), thus C is also 256 an 512 hertz. You can have different tunings, in which that frequency works as C (music more importantly is based off mathematical patterns versus the actual frequency), however, these frequencies are the most natural.

Gregor, I like what your doing and I love the feel of this thread. I've been reading through and keep getting frustrated by the discussions about the 12 tone scale.

I did a bit of work on the subject a few years ago. My house has been emptied and my stuff is in storage. I have quite a lot of figures that I can't actually remember at the moment.

Anyway, I can't tell from looking at your spreadsheet if you are using "equal temperament" 'tuning' or if you are using "modal"(resonant) 'tuning'. There's an important difference, especially in regards to what you seem to be trying to achieve here.

Equal temperament tuning was 'invented' by Bach at about the time the keyboard was invented, to enable equality of the different 'musical keys'. It made any piece of music sound equally in tune no matter what key it was played in. It also destroyed the beautiful resonances that modal music had.

When an instrument is tuned modally, it sounds very resonant and 'sweet' in one key only. If you try to play in a different key it sounds c**p, you have to re-tune the instrument for the new key before it will sound 'sweet' again.

I'd guess that for the kind of applications you have in mind, you should be using the modal principle. I wish I had the figures here but I thought I should mention it. I'm not absolutely sure that you're not using the modal frequencies, I just can't remember the numbers right now.

The main thing is, you can only be resonantly accurate in one base frequency ('key') at a time. It doesn't matter what that frequency is, as long as you 'drift' the other frequencies of the chord or scale into resonant alignment with it. That's how it was before Bach, and still is with many modal purists today.

Hope that wasn't too many words for too little to say lol.


Also, while I'm here, number bases. I've never been able to understand why 'numerologists' see so much in base 10 numbers. If you change the base you change the numbers. (eXchanger, if you read this, I'm not looking for an argument, I'm looking for answers)

( on 12/13 note octaves, the base is 13 ; you get to 12 and go back to zero)
(as in base 10 ; you get to 9 and go back to zero)

I wonder if any of your amazing number theories could 're-invent' the actual number base that we use for these things based on the idea of having an octave at the base, as with the base 13 musical octave. If we were all taught western music instead of maths we'd probably all be counting in base 13. Just a thought.

Ok, that's me done for now. Great thread, let's see this happen.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:13 PM   #21
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Keep in the mind that Hz is "Cycles per Second", and the problem is, what is second? Second is a Time Measure based on ... Nothing. At least not based on a Universal understanding of geometry resonance and ratios. It is a Human (maybe mason?) made size. Same whit Meter. I research this me self and i font for now no universal geometric based way to find a measure system for Time and Space. So i am interested on everything you find out about this.

This means, we can not use numbers directly as frequencies so long the fundament second and meter is based on arbitrariness.

I think the Solfeggio numbers (... 396, 417, 528 ...) used as a Sound frequency is a misunderstanding (or maybe a manipulation). This numbers are a completely other topic and has nothing to do whit frequencies. The Numbers create a linear system, and not a logarithmic. Just mix all frequencies together, it sounds terrible! I have don this to proof me bad filings against the Solfeggio frequency's as sound. Logarithmic frequencies sounds harmonic, even independent of the Logarithmic base (naturally it is 2, but i test it whit other bases too, for example whit 1.618 and others).

A better understanding of numbers and the frequencies we get be using the visual frequency of Light and the colors, to get a clear sound. I speculate our body resonates by nature whit the universal geometry, and so the colors red yellow green blue violet can be used to find a god base for the right frequencies in sound.

Has somebody good information's for frequencies of all kind in nature, including the colors?
More different frequencies and more exact the better. Thanks.
(i found only a few and imprecise infarctions.)

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Old 11-18-2008, 05:50 PM   #22
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Wow what a thread I've been missing out on.

My background is physics BSc and acoustics/vibrations MSc although I seem to be getting brain dead in a large corporation I'm not sure for how much longer it is automotive need I say more with the things as they are in the press.

I need to do some research and lots of watching to get myself up to speed but I've read through the whole thread and now intend to watch the links

Audio and vibration have been a fascination for me and I look forward to how this thread is progressing. I hope to be up to speed enough to hopefully contribute something meaningful... even if it is only encoragement!

off to link watch

ps I remembered there were two things I wanted to add. The Fats Omega 3, 6 and 9 are they linked with these numbers?
pps with regards pyramids and energy there is a book written by Christopher Dunn - http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&k...sl_r6u60s2ef_b Well worth a read as it talks about the construction and an extremely plausable reason for the pyramids. He goes into the constructions and theory and it all stacks up with physics.
http://www.gizapower.com/

summary: giant mechanical tectonic plate resonators, which amplify microwave energy in a MASER (parallel sided inner box made from microwave transmittable stone (sarcophicus) with concave lenses each outer end to focus it into waveguideshafts, with a Hydrogen filled resonator chamber (resonant frequency of H2) (kings) and gets Hydrogen from the acid/alkaline filled queens chamber below. Book and website are well worth a view / read!!!! I'm sure I've missed a few items there but I read it a year + ago. Basically says the stones were made using stone CNC machines due to tooling marks etc. As an engineer I have to agreed with his reasoning. He also asked stone masons and they said it would be extremely difficult to replicate today.

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Keep in the mind that Hz is "Cycles per Second", and the problem is, what is second? Second is a Time Measure based on ... Nothing. At least not based on a Universal understanding of geometry resonance and ratios. It is a Human (maybe mason?) made size. Same whit Meter. I research this me self and i font for now no universal geometric based way to find a measure system for Time and Space. So i am interested on everything you find out about this.

This means, we can not use numbers directly as frequencies so long the fundament second and meter is based on arbitrariness.

I think the Solfeggio numbers (... 396, 417, 528 ...) used as a Sound frequency is a misunderstanding (or maybe a manipulation). This numbers are a completely other topic and has nothing to do whit frequencies. The Numbers create a linear system, and not a logarithmic. Just mix all frequencies together, it sounds terrible! I have don this to proof me bad filings against the Solfeggio frequency's as sound. Logarithmic frequencies sounds harmonic, even independent of the Logarithmic base (naturally it is 2, but i test it whit other bases too, for example whit 1.618 and others).

A better understanding of numbers and the frequencies we get be using the visual frequency of Light and the colors, to get a clear sound. I speculate our body resonates by nature whit the universal geometry, and so the colors red yellow green blue violet can be used to find a god base for the right frequencies in sound.

Has somebody good information's for frequencies of all kind in nature, including the colors?
More different frequencies and more exact the better. Thanks.
(i found only a few and imprecise infarctions.)

(if you want a respond on a question, then hurry up, if the forum is only accessible by subscription, i am out.)

I do not know if this is relevant in what Gregor has gathered but you mentioned the timing of it all, and a Mayan paper on "Time" someone put together last year described how they viewed time. Simply, the Mayans broke down "Time" based on cycles of 13 in which events occured within, ie, 13 hours, 13 minutes, 13 seconds, 13 'whatever.' They saw Time based on 13.
I know there are endless books and professionals, and experts on the subject but this person took exisitng works pushed them all together and drew a different conclusion. Maybe he is right or is on to something or just another opinion but I thought it was interesting.

Maybe 13 plugs in somewhere? I do not know but I do have the paper if someone is interested.

Besides isn't there really 13 months a year, not 12 (13 full moons) and aren't there really 13 Zodiac signs not 12 (even 'Wikipedia' shows 13 zodiac signs- 88 constellations) and weren't there really 13 disciples total! Just a thought and a different perspective.

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Old 11-18-2008, 06:41 PM   #24
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Keep in the mind that Hz is "Cycles per Second", and the problem is, what is second? Second is a Time Measure based on ... Nothing. At least not based on a Universal understanding of geometry resonance and ratios. It is a Human (maybe mason?) made size. Same whit Meter. I research this me self and i font for now no universal geometric based way to find a measure system for Time and Space. So i am interested on everything you find out about this.

This means, we can not use numbers directly as frequencies so long the fundament second and meter is based on arbitrariness.

I think the Solfeggio numbers (... 396, 417, 528 ...) used as a Sound frequency is a misunderstanding (or maybe a manipulation). This numbers are a completely other topic and has nothing to do whit frequencies. The Numbers create a linear system, and not a logarithmic. Just mix all frequencies together, it sounds terrible! I have don this to proof me bad filings against the Solfeggio frequency's as sound. Logarithmic frequencies sounds harmonic, even independent of the Logarithmic base (naturally it is 2, but i test it whit other bases too, for example whit 1.618 and others).

A better understanding of numbers and the frequencies we get be using the visual frequency of Light and the colors, to get a clear sound. I speculate our body resonates by nature whit the universal geometry, and so the colors red yellow green blue violet can be used to find a god base for the right frequencies in sound.

Has somebody good information's for frequencies of all kind in nature, including the colors?
More different frequencies and more exact the better. Thanks.
(i found only a few and imprecise infarctions.)

(if you want a respond on a question, then hurry up, if the forum is only accessible by subscription, i am out.)
Excellent point Peter. But let me tell you about a conversation I had with someone in my campus's cafeteria not even ten minutes ago (I love synchronicity lol!). We were talking about remote viewing and from there it hopped into time measurement. I then go to explain that the second is actually is a true measurement, that it is not arbitrary. Our time system stems from the Sumerians over 5,000 years ago, with 60 seconds, 60 minutes, and 24 hours, while our calendar system had indeed changed multiple times (to the point of being entirely flawed).

An experiment was done using sound waves on a water droplet, essentially the acoustic levitation that has already been talking about here in this forum, but the levitation was not the purpose of the experiment. When the water droplet was completely held at a stationary point, it would begin to light as it began to pulse. I do not remember the exact measurement, but the pulses were at a perfect frequency (you could say octave here probably instead) of the second, or I believe one-hundredth of a millisecond).

Also, the sun expands and contracts in size/volume in a perfect rhythm. Even more interesting is that its cycle of expansion and contraction are absolutely perfect, to the millisecond, five minutes.

Oh wait, and it gets better. The only other star we can measure this duration, which I know is the closest star system and I think that is Alpha Centauri B, its duration is perfect, to the millisecond, seven minutes.

Think about it
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I agree with peterh that in order to find the true base frequency we must observe light. But the question is what is true green? I mean, there are many shades of green and people see green in different ways. So what is the frequency of the one and only green? On David Wilcock's site I read that the colors of light are in Diatonic Scale. http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.ph...d=91&Itemid=36

The logarithmic or equal temperament scale was produced because of key transposing and yet someone still prefers to hear a song written entirely in Diatonic Scale. Maybe if we use 13 note based system and equal temperament we could find some more pleasant music. In that system we would see one semitone as 2^(1/13)=1.054766. So the note C will be C=432*2^(-9/13)=267.3488776.
Here are some links that I have gathered in my research today:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_and_mathematics
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/DanielleDaly.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatonic_scale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament
http://cnx.org/content/m11639/latest/
http://members.cox.net/mathmistakes/music.htm
http://www.michael.beer.name/research/mathandmusic.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
http://www.tonalcentre.org/
http://www.terryblackburn.us/music/t...ent/index.html
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