Moderator Election

[Dean Plejaren]

it's about first impression.

You have a bird crapping on your head so how is that a better impression? I'm glad unthinking sheep don't like the positive version of the swastika that's why I put it there specially for you to go nuts and pull your hair out like it's a scary big deal. Oh no the swastika. Run for the hills it's a bad impression.

[Dantheman62]

HaHa you're funny, no really, trust me when I say, I'm scared of nothing, I'm half german and half irish, hence my temper, so don't get me started! And I'm really tired of hijacking historycircus's thread o.k.

Hijack Shmijack,

Anyway, the swastika can be off-putting, however, it is an old Native American symbol that represents the four winds. Think about winds swirling around - that is what the symbol means, at least in the good days.

Then the Nazis appropriated it. Then it became "bad."

It is both "good" and "bad," depending on context.

Now, let's get this election going folks.

Who will have me as moderator? And Dean, you already voted no, so technically I'm not asking you.

[Dean Plejaren]

Ok Dan don't whinge about me and the swastika now I gave you a poll to make it fair, we will see......

[Orion11]

well, imo.. (and i know your not asking me , since i already voted).. lol

but,

i dont think mods should be choosing themselves anymore...

thats not how it works other places, and not sure if you could tell... but it hasnt worked the geatest here, even though there are some wikked cool mods here, at the begininning it wasnt working the greatest.. still not sometimes...

I dont think ppl should choose themselves as mods.

also, you have kindof an attitude, unpleasant sometimes, with simple things, snippy at ppl for no reason with rude remarks.

Mods def shouldnt act like that.

n im not trying to point fingers and faults, as i have plenty of my own..

Just sayin... a moderator isnt just about editing and deleting posts and cleaning up the forum.. someone who moderates a place like this needs pretty decent PR skills..with all people....

heh, wish my pr skills were better sometimes i assure ya. lol

later gator.

[Reunite]

Originally Posted by Orion11

also, you have kindof an attitude, unpleasant sometimes, with simple things, snippy at ppl for no reason with rude remarks.

Mods def shouldnt act like that.

n im not trying to point fingers and faults, as i have plenty of my own..

Just sayin... a moderator isnt just about editing and deleting posts and cleaning up the forum.. someone who moderates a place like this needs pretty decent PR skills..with all people....

On the Goodbye thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myplanet2 View Post

Ah. so will they be joining you and the other whiney babies at the whiney baby forum?


and on Mr's Obama's Dress thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenny View Post

If I had the choice ( but I haven't) I would move it to the subforum; THRASH.

Jenny




btw the word is trash not thrash Jenny. Nice to know what you think of people's opinions and observations.

Are these the mods you're happy with Orion11?

[norman]

I didn't know Kerry and Bill had approved of moderator election campaigns. Did this happen last night while I was asleep?

Historycircus, I'm not going to vote for you because I think you're up to something that has an agenda attached to it. Mods with agendas as not a good idea IMO.

Originally Posted by norman

I didn't know Kerry and Bill had approved of moderator election campaigns. Did this happen last night while I was asleep?

Historycircus, I'm not going to vote for you because I think you're up to something that has an agenda attached to it. Mods with agendas as not a good idea IMO.

No agenda - I see a lot of people complaining about mods, and I figured this election thing might serve two purposes: 1) allow Avalonians to pick one of their own mods, and 2) to have a little fun after what was a couple of days of pretty rancorous debate over the subscription thing. Honestly, I have no hidden agenda, or whatever.

Thanks, and no matter what you decide, yay or nay, just vote.

Originally Posted by Reunite

On the Goodbye thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myplanet2 View Post

Ah. so will they be joining you and the other whiney babies at the whiney baby forum?


and on Mr's Obama's Dress thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenny View Post

If I had the choice ( but I haven't) I would move it to the subforum; THRASH.

Jenny




btw the word is trash not thrash Jenny. Nice to know what you think of people's opinions and observations.

Are these the mods you're happy with Orion11?

Thanks for the post Reunite, but I don't want this thread to turn into a referendum on current mods.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Orion11

well, imo.. (and i know your not asking me , since i already voted).. lol

but,

i dont think mods should be choosing themselves anymore...

thats not how it works other places, and not sure if you could tell... but it hasnt worked the geatest here, even though there are some wikked cool mods here, at the begininning it wasnt working the greatest.. still not sometimes...

I dont think ppl should choose themselves as mods.

also, you have kindof an attitude, unpleasant sometimes, with simple things, snippy at ppl for no reason with rude remarks.

Mods def shouldnt act like that.

n im not trying to point fingers and faults, as i have plenty of my own..

Just sayin... a moderator isnt just about editing and deleting posts and cleaning up the forum.. someone who moderates a place like this needs pretty decent PR skills..with all people....

heh, wish my pr skills were better sometimes i assure ya. lol

later gator.

Fair enough, and thanks for the input.

[SIR GALAHAD]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

HaHa you're funny, no really, trust me when I say, I'm scared of nothing, I'm half german and half irish, hence my temper, so don't get me started! And I'm really tired of hijacking historycircus's thread o.k.

Dan dear dear Dan why are you getting so much out of your pram for the swastika was around so long before German Nazis where around if you actually bother to have a look what it means before you shoot off about something you haven't even researched you will find its symbol of great power google it .

While all this swastika stuff is fun (nothing like discussing the primary symbol of the world's worst and deadliest political party to add a cheer to the thread), there is something more important and fantastic to discuss:

My candidacy for moderator.

Universal health care for none!

[freekatz]

Originally Posted by historycircus

Universal health care for none!

I was reading through this thread for nothing more than the nonsense entertainment value with no intention of voting (actually I still have none because I really don't care either way).....just have to mention though that the above comment caught my eye and if I were to jump into the fray, I would definitely say no based on that!

I can't believe how many libertarian/republican every man for himself types there are on this forum. Sorry for the labeling (which I hate) but it seems to express my thoughts at the moment.

If we're all about surviving and building a new better world how do you propose doing that if it's dog eat dog survival of the fittest?

Originally Posted by freekatz

I was reading through this thread for nothing more than the nonsense entertainment value with no intention of voting (actually I still have none because I really don't care either way).....just have to mention though that the above comment caught my eye and if I were to jump into the fray, I would definitely say no based on that!

I can't believe how many libertarian/republican every man for himself types there are on this forum. Sorry for the labeling (which I hate) but it seems to express my thoughts at the moment.

If we're all about surviving and building a new better world how do you propose doing that if it's dog eat dog survival of the fittest?

"Universal health care for none" was supposed to be funny because if elected, I would have absolutely no powers whatsoever to create a good health care plan. Just a joke - not a deep statement of political philosophy. I am sorry if you took offense.

I actually support universal health care in the analog world . . .

[Lotus]

It's elemental in child psychology that by ignoring kids acting out and not giving them any energy their behavior tends to change.

Originally Posted by Lotus

It's elemental in child psychology that by ignoring kids acting out and not giving them any energy their behavior tends to change.

Apparently, my attempts at humor have been ill recieved, and for that I apologize. I have a tendancy to let my irreverence interfere with the effective communication of my ideas; let me dispense with the humor and make a serious attempt to re-explain what I'm doing here.

After reading Kerry Cassidy's post on the mods, I did a lot of thinking about recent conflicts between regular posters and moderators, and tried to figure out what, if anything, could ever be done to curb what will ALWAYS be a source of tension on forums like these. I myself have never had any posts edited or bad run ins with the mods - except for Karen yesterday, and that was peanuts compared to some of the mod/poster arguments I have seen. It dawned on me that if one or two of the moderators were picked by the forum members, that could possibly cut down on the mod/poster tension - I don't think anything could ever end it permanently, but moderator elections might reduce it.

Then I thought about getting that idea out there to people, and the first thing I wanted to do was start a thread titled "Should We Have Mod Elections?" Then I realized that that would be yet another thread where we sit around and debate, and argue, etc. I figured rather than start a fight over "should we" or "shouldn't we," I'd nominated myself and plant the seed. Why not? I like Avalon, I think moderator elections are a good idea, and a vote would be fun. I really didn't think there was anything to argue about there - people would come, vote, and maybe post why they gave their yay or nay. Believe you me, I was - and am - prepared for the negative stuff; I know the serious ideas (not the jokes) I have about the issues here on Avalon and Camelot put me in the minority. I just figured there would be nothing to fight about, or get offended over - it would be an up and down vote on the group's confidence in my moderating abilities.

That I will ultimately lose, well, is a given (although winning would be cool too). I guess what is most dissappointing, and surprising given that most here bemoan their lack of a real influence or voice in the power structures of the real world, is the voter turnout. How many thousands of people have accounts here? And only 50 people have voted - a third commiting to the useless options? This experience, at least slightly, harkens back to the comments I made on another thread earlier this week (or possibly late last week); much of the lack of power we have over the real world's socioeconomic systems is our own fault - the PTB have enjoyed increasing, unbridled power because of our own apathy and real world inaction. Many would blame the NWO for the world's problems; I think we should blame ourselves.

The course this thread has taken is not exactly what I envisioned when I started it, but it is the poll that is worth it all. If you don't want to post here, at least vote. If you don't want to vote for me, get together via the PM system or the private boards and figure out who to nominate, and put them to a public vote. I second the nomination of both eXchanger and the Flyingpyramid.

Again, I think that having one or two mods out of the whole group come from the main body of posters is fair, potentially calming, and just a good idea. They should also be term limited seats.

I am truly sorry if I have offended anyone in any way, and I hope this sets it right.

[Dean Plejaren]

eXchanger. I would have you mod right now if it was up to me who runs what. All exchanges I had with you so far have being nothing but insightful.

[Dean Plejaren]

Dan Dan Dan please don't be so upset all i said was check your info before opening that great big m__th of yours .Dont worry look at it as a learning curve i was merely stating that the swastika was not a symbol of evil it is a symbol of great power found in almost ancient culture in its clockwise and anticlockwise forms and its a symbol that far predates Hitlers abuse of it .

Yes Dan.....That is correct you do need to think more before you post. Now I made a poll for you and totally blew you out of the water maybe you can create a poll and see who wants YOU to go and stay. lol. I wonder if the results will be what you assume, as they were not exactly what you assumed about me with my poll.

All this is helping us get a reality check. That is all.....

[Orion11]

no,

just more childish b.s. that helps no one.

[Ammit]

Historycircus.

If you would have said that at the start you would have got my vote along my with my belief that Exchanger would also make a fantastic mod.

This site still seems too pent up for jokes, especially ill recieved jokes, i must confess I was one of those who ill recieved them.

That said, that was a nice repair job.

Ammit

Originally Posted by Ammit

Historycircus.

If you would have said that at the start you would have got my vote along my with my belief that Exchanger would also make a fantastic mod.

This site still seems too pent up for jokes, especially ill recieved jokes, i must confess I was one of those who ill recieved them.

That said, that was a nice repair job.

Ammit

As a voice of reason, your words could not please me more. I agree, that is what should have appeared at the beginning of this thread, not three pages deep.

The swastika fight didn't help.

[KassandraLoves]

I voted I dont care although, I wish it didnt have the "shut up" part at the end.

Swastika fights are awesome. We used to have them after school in the neighborhood I grew up in. Mom would get SO Pi$$ed when id come home all covered in swastika ....bwaaahahahaha....Lighten up guys, theres no reason to be a bunch of dou<hey dou<he bags to eachother....

Oh and P.S. eXchanger for mod, 2009!!!! hahaha...

[Reunite]

Originally Posted by KassandraLoves

...Lighten up guys, theres no reason to be a bunch of dou<hey dou<he bags to eachother....

I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

Originally Posted by Reunite

I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

"A douche is a device used to introduce a stream of water into the body for medical or hygienic reasons, or the stream of water itself. The word comes from the French language, in which its principal meaning is a shower (it is thus a notorious false friend encountered by non-native speakers of English; the phrase for vaginal douching is douche vaginale, meaning vaginal shower).

The word can refer to the rinsing of any body cavity but usually applies to vaginal irrigation, rinsing of the vagina. A douche bag is a piece of equipment for douching: a bag for holding the water or fluid used in douching (the term douche bag can also be used as an insult). To avoid transferring intestinal bacteria into the vagina, the same bag must not be used for a vaginal douche and an enema."

[KassandraLoves]

Originally Posted by Reunite

I like the douche bags. Especially the ones with lemon grass perfume

mmmmm....LemonGrass.....