What is 2012? (or "The Great Harvest")

[recallone]

Early on in this thread, the name David Hawkins came up. In a favorable, reliable light, I might add. As did The Law of One material and the Operation Terra information. These sources were all considered trustworthy and beyond reproach.

I've come to find that no one source has all of the answers. No one source is pure and perfectly connected...yet. And if none of it is completely perfect in its' depiction of what is, and what's to come, then all of it should be given the same amount of credibility and labeled as such...simply stuff. That way, when we find information that very soundly contradicts a previous belief or concept, we're free to discard it without any attachment to it. Truths are merely transient anyways, so I'll ask you to accept the following with the love it was written with.

Concerning David Hawkins. Please read this page

Concerning the Law of One material:
On homosexuality:

"Questioner: We have what seems to be an increasing number of entities incarnate here now who have what is called a homosexual orientation. Could you explain and expand upon that concept?

Ra: I am Ra. Entities of this condition experience a great deal of distortion due to the fact that they have experienced many incarnations as biological male and as biological female. This would not suggest what you call homosexuality in an active phase were it not for the difficult vibratory condition of your planetary sphere. There is what you may call great aura infringement among your crowded urban areas in your more populous countries, as you call portions of your planetary surface. Under these conditions the confusions will occur.

Questioner: Roughly how many previous incarnations would a male entity in this incarnation have had to have had in the past as a female to have a highly homosexual orientation in this incarnation?

Ra: I am Ra. If an entity has had roughly 65% of its incarnations in the sexual/biological body complex, the opposite polarity to its present body complex, this entity is vulnerable to infringement of your urban areas and may perhaps become of what you call an homosexual nature.

It is to be noted at this juncture that although it is much more difficult, it is possible in this type of association for an entity to be of great service to another in fidelity and sincere green ray love of a nonsexual nature thus adjusting or lessening the distortions of its sexual impairment.

So, homosexuality (According to the Law of One) is apparently a condition that creates distortion and confusion for the poor soul afflicted with said condition and furthermore refers to it as a sexual impairment. I hate to sound dismissive, especially when I have read some amazing, wonderful things in the Law of One material, but this is about balance, folks. The wording used in the above quote and others is pretty clear in its attempt to persuade the reader to view homosexuals in a particular light. One that's unlike the way all you straight people out there enjoy. I'm not gay, by the way - this isn't about me championing the gay rights movement, only to illustrate a shortcoming in the teachings of the Law of One. I don't see anyone as a distortion according to who they're attracted to. If I were Christ or Buddha, I still don't think I would.

On hair length:
75.19 Questioner: You mentioned in an earlier session that the hair was an antennae. Could you expand on that statement as to how that works?

Ra: I am Ra. It is difficult to so do due to the metaphysical nature of this antennae-effect. Your physics are concerned with measurements in your physical complex of experience. The metaphysical nature of the contact of those in time/space is such that the hair, as it has significant length, becomes as a type of electrical battery which stays charged and tuned and is then able to aid contact even when there are small anomalies in the contact.

75.20 Questioner: Is there an optimum length of hair for this aid?

Ra: I am Ra. There is no outer limit on length but the, shall we say, inner limit is approximately four to four and one-half inches depending upon the strength of the contact and the nature of the instrument.

I understand that they're talking about the medium, for the communication...but c'mon - hair length? Then what's with centuries worth of bald monks? Buddhist monks were the baddest cats around. They could defeat an armed samurai warrior like they were taking out the trash! How? Because they were in harmony with the world around them. Anything of disharmony is simply removed, and with great ease. Take a look at this guy.

Concerning Operation Terra:
"Those that are destined for 4th density Positve (Terra) will at some point be "lifted off" this planet by Federation Ships in their physical bodies, and they will go through a transition period into new 4th density bodies as they wait for Terra to be ready for colonization.

Kind of takes personal responsibility out of the mix, don't you think? And what's more, the material goes on to identify a certain chosen percentage of the population as star children. Again, different. A lot of complacency encouraged there. If you're chosen, you're all good - if you're not, don't get too upset about it, but you're screwed.

Because I've pointed these things out doesn't mean that I've discarded the entire contents therein, and I'm not saying anything untowards about any of them. I am offering all of you a balance.

There are conclusions that have been made upon the foundation of which I, personally, have found to be lacking in resonance. Any philosophy that places more value or distinction upon the few is suspect to scrutiny, IMHO. Whether its in an unfavorable light, like with the Law of One (smacks of Christianity's abomination, doesn't it?) or in a favorable light, the division is created and stands in disharmony with all that is.

Expecting a galactic savior relinquishes us from the personal responsibility of ascending. Complacency is a tool used to discourage the pursuit of truth. Don't be lulled by complacency. The task before us lies within every one of us. As we go within, we'll find all of the answers and all the necessary guidance, but search we must.

This is about personal responsibility. Are you going to do the work on yourself to lead the many? Or are you going to continue watching the programming box as you calmly wait for your assured oblivion? I don't want to offer any conclusions, but I want you all to really ask yourself if you think that waiting for a savior is really what you're supposed to be doing right now. Or should you be realizing the savior that is you?

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreamed of in your philosophy." - some dude

Thanks for taking the time to read this long winded reply. I bow to the divine in all of you.
-recallone

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by recallone

On hair length:
75.19 Questioner: You mentioned in an earlier session that the hair was an antennae. Could you expand on that statement as to how that works?

Ra: I am Ra. It is difficult to so do due to the metaphysical nature of this antennae-effect. Your physics are concerned with measurements in your physical complex of experience. The metaphysical nature of the contact of those in time/space is such that the hair, as it has significant length, becomes as a type of electrical battery which stays charged and tuned and is then able to aid contact even when there are small anomalies in the contact.

75.20 Questioner: Is there an optimum length of hair for this aid?

Ra: I am Ra. There is no outer limit on length but the, shall we say, inner limit is approximately four to four and one-half inches depending upon the strength of the contact and the nature of the instrument.

I understand that they're talking about the medium, for the communication...but c'mon - hair length? Then what's with centuries worth of bald monks? Buddhist monks were the baddest cats around. They could defeat an armed samurai warrior like they were taking out the trash! How? Because they were in harmony with the world around them. Anything of disharmony is simply removed, and with great ease. Take a look at this guy.

I don't have much hair but noticed while I was at Glastonbury this year that I have a aerial sticking out of my head

[Allie]

Originally Posted by recallone

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Expecting a galactic savior relinquishes us from the personal responsibility of ascending. Complacency is a tool used to discourage the pursuit of truth. Don't be lulled by complacency. The task before us lies within every one of us. As we go within, we'll find all of the answers and all the necessary guidance, but search we must.

-recallone

I don't have any arguement with that statement at all

I can't speak for anyone else but what I found when researching was that the more I learned, the less I knew.

Initially, when I began researching I knew that I had to approach the whole thing from an unbiased point of view - to start with an inclination towards a view/belief/pet theory carries the danger of finding the information to support that view whilst rather conveniently overlooking that which does not.

Again, at the outset, I found information which resonated. And again, for me, this carried the danger of settling with it and of making it my personal credo.
Growth doesn't really occur when you remain at one point for too long. Reading the life story of Gandhi illustrated the fact that his own quest for self-acceptance/spirituality was actually a life-long struggle.

As I've said in past posts on this thread, I haven't a clue what's coming nor when and I've learned that no one view is wholly true - and yet, aren't the many inconsistencies perhaps the very impetus that serves to keep us engaged with an on-going search? It's a search that begins on the outside but should end up on the inside. At least - that's how it was for me.

There is a view in esoteric astrology that the age of Pisces was about 'saviours' (or teachers), whereas in the Aquarian age mankind must take more responsibility for itself.

[Allie]

Originally Posted by recallone

I've come to find that no one

Any philosophy that places more value or distinction upon the few is suspect to scrutiny, IMHO. Whether its in an unfavorable light, like with the Law of One (smacks of Christianity's abomination, doesn't it?) or in a favorable light, the division is created and stands in disharmony with all that is.

-recallone

Whenever I have come across information that appears to be the epitome of wisdom, and yet speaks against certain groups of people, I find it suspect.

Many an agenda appears cloaked in wise words.

My own view is that if information encourages you to feel particularly special or advises you, in a general way, against a certain group then it might well have an agenda of its own.

[dolphin]

upon reading the Ra, and hidden hand, and operation terra, i'm confused to what ra and hidden hand say about 51% service to others. in the terra material, it says that it is not by your deeds but by your frequency which determines one moving on to 4th density positive terra.

can anyone clarify this?

also on the Solfeggio frequencies, i've tried downloading on sanat's website but to no avail! does anyone have another site they can suggest to download? thanks!!!

[Allie]

I'm certainly no expert on this but might your 'service to others' attitude in turn affect your frequency? So it's less a case of focusing on how to increase a personal frequency and more a case of focusing on a personal attitude/spirituality?

In our hearts and actions, we do know the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'. I think our problem sometimes lies in the fact that we experience a negative event or person, we place a blame on them for creating that feeling. Where in truth, no one can make us feel something that isn't already within us. I think it was Eleanor Roosevelt who said "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission'. For 'inferior', substitute any other emotion. My own view is that once you begin addressing these things, perhaps your frequency (whatever that may mean!) will rise accordingly?

With regard to the Solfeggion frequencies, you could try 'Googling' 'Holy Harmony' by Jonathan Goldman or alternatively, go to YouTube as there are many different Solfeggio frequencies on there. 'Holy Harmony', I believe, might have them all.

[dolphin]

Originally Posted by Allie

I'm certainly no expert on this but might your 'service to others' attitude in turn affect your frequency? So it's less a case of focusing on how to increase a personal frequency and more a case of focusing on a personal attitude/spirituality?

In our hearts and actions, we do know the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'. I think our problem sometimes lies in the fact that we experience a negative event or person, we place a blame on them for creating that feeling. Where in truth, no one can make us feel something that isn't already within us. I think it was Eleanor Roosevelt who said "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission'. For 'inferior', substitute any other emotion. My own view is that once you begin addressing these things, perhaps your frequency (whatever that may mean!) will rise accordingly?

With regard to the Solfeggion frequencies, you could try 'Googling' 'Holy Harmony' by Jonathan Goldman or alternatively, go to YouTube as there are many different Solfeggio frequencies on there. 'Holy Harmony', I believe, might have them all.

thanks so much allie, i will try those sites! re: the "service to others"... one can interpret that in many ways. as i understand being at a high frequency according to hawkins is that a single person who calibrates very high has the ability to balance off a substantially high amount of very low frequency people.

if, let's say you are a musician or artist and your "service to others" may just be that you are vibrating at a high frequency (not saying that "all" musicians and artists are at high frequencies) and you are thus contributing to the positive energy around you, but you don't give your time to others (let's say volunteering for an organization, for ex.) in a more general way...is just doing what makes you at a high frequency considered also to be "service to others"??...

[dolphin]

...or is that "service to self" orientation????

[pontfx]

Originally Posted by Allie

I'm certainly no expert on this but might your 'service to others' attitude in turn affect your frequency? So it's less a case of focusing on how to increase a personal frequency and more a case of focusing on a personal attitude/spirituality?

In our hearts and actions, we do know the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'. I think our problem sometimes lies in the fact that we experience a negative event or person, we place a blame on them for creating that feeling. Where in truth, no one can make us feel something that isn't already within us. I think it was Eleanor Roosevelt who said "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission'. For 'inferior', substitute any other emotion. My own view is that once you begin addressing these things, perhaps your frequency (whatever that may mean!) will rise accordingly?

With regard to the Solfeggion frequencies, you could try 'Googling' 'Holy Harmony' by Jonathan Goldman or alternatively, go to YouTube as there are many different Solfeggio frequencies on there. 'Holy Harmony', I believe, might have them all.

http://people.tribe.net/pontfx333 see info

[micjer]

Originally Posted by dolphin

upon reading the Ra, and hidden hand, and operation terra, i'm confused to what ra and hidden hand say about 51% service to others. in the terra material, it says that it is not by your deeds but by your frequency which determines one moving on to 4th density positive terra.

can anyone clarify this?

also on the Solfeggio frequencies, i've tried downloading on sanat's website but to no avail! does anyone have another site they can suggest to download? thanks!!!

http://www.astrovera.com/philosophy/...equencies.html

try this link.

[iainl140285]

Holy Harmony - free mp3 download

http://www.getpastit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5916


Iain

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by dolphin

upon reading the Ra, and hidden hand, and operation terra, i'm confused to what ra and hidden hand say about 51% service to others. in the terra material, it says that it is not by your deeds but by your frequency which determines one moving on to 4th density positive terra.

can anyone clarify this?

Excellent points, and a good question. I can't speak for Ra or the hidden hand, and I come from a christian background and the issue of faith vs. works is often an issue. One says you are saved by faith, and another says, by their works you will know them or "faith without works is dead". I say it's two sides of the same coin.

One cannot walk in love and ignore someone in need. You can't observe the law and allow someone or an animal to die because it says, "Don't work on the Sabbath." Boy, Doctors are surely out of luck then eh? The highest law is that of Love, and if one walks in love then they cannot miss the mark of perfection. Jesus laid it out so nicely when the Pharisees tried to trap him into picking one law over another. He summed them all up in one law, "To love the Lord your God with all your heart, and the second was similar, to love your neighbor as yourself." So, if you are walking in the highest vibrational energy of Divine love (not sappy gooey phileo love, but Agape love) then you will do works in various ways to follow that energy, but the energy of Love comes first and the selfless works follow not for gain, but just because it's right.

I have yet to spend an entire day in selfless love, but it is a goal of mine. I think when I was younger, single and had more me time, it was easier to feel devoted more consistently. I prayed to be cleansed, to get rid of the dross, to deal with my pride, and to understand what meekness of spirit truly is. Well, God/dess has a very good sense of humor.

I got married, had 4 children, lost my world class athletic physique, almost lost my right leg in an auto accident so I can't run anymore unless there were a miracle to happen. I've suffered the physical loss of my strength in many ways, and I have learned oh so much from my children. I married the wrong man, went through a tough divorce, and have struggled since 1999 to rebuild my life.

Now as I look back, I see how I have learned to be less judgmental, less holier than thou (God junior syndrome), and to know that "there for the grace of God go I".

May your path bring you as much fulfillment as mine has thus far.

Love and light

[shred]

Sanat , thank you so very much for the info here and on your website. The message feels so "right / true" for me. I finally get it ! I enjoyed reading it as well as the "hidden_hand" stuff . I cant begin to tell you how much this has changed my life for the better. Isn't it weird how I ran across the link below by shear chance....before I ran across it here on Project Avalon , while researching a number of conspiracy theories. Its like i followed a trail of bread crumbs in search of something seemly big....only to discover something absolutely huge ! Truly life changing ! Almost as if by design or something.

thank you again..
Peace & Love
Shred

the actual posting on ATS forums by "hidden_hand" Great read !
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread402958/pg1

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by shred

Sanat , thank you so very much for the info here and on your website. The message feels so "right / true" for me. I finally get it ! I enjoyed reading it as well as the "hidden_hand" stuff . I cant begin to tell you how much this has changed my life for the better. Isn't it weird how I ran across the link below by shear chance....before I ran across it here on Project Avalon , while researching a number of conspiracy theories. Its like i followed a trail of bread crumbs in search of something seemly big....only to discover something absolutely huge ! Truly life changing ! Almost as if by design or something.

thank you again..
Peace & Love
Shred

the actual posting on ATS forums by "hidden_hand" Great read !
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread402958/pg1

Yes Shred,

That is how it is. Very strange that one can follow something that seems vague in the beginning, and then it will grow and grow until your life is totally changed and you are a totally different person. That is the way to go. We never stop evolving and learning unless we choose to close our self down (via fear), or pride ourselves to "know it all". The learning goes on as longs as we exist in all eternity. Everything is a lesson and we never stop learning and expanding. Keep it up mate!

I very much recommend this book for everyone to get the bigger picture of what has been going on here and what is currently going on. It is called Bringers of the Dawn and can be read here:

http://web.archive.org/web/200307240...m/bringers.htm

Please keep in mind that some of the info might not be valid anymore as things change all the time. But the larger picture of it is worth to take into consideration for all who are interested in these things.

[Sanat]

The split is now becoming more and more apparent. In 2008 the Level of Mass Consciousness made a giant leap. In 2009 the manifested world is struggling to "catch up" with this new level/plateau. To better understand this split we need to understand how change happens in the manifested universe:

ALL change happens in the unmanifest. The manifest universe blinks "on" and "off" many times each nano-second. Each time it blinks on again there is change (i.e. a totally different universe as potentials become actual). Thus, all change is total change.

All potential universes exist simultaniously on different frequencies as all potentials/possibilities are "accounted for" and explored by our higher Self which has "probes" into all the potential realities (execellent way to make the most of each lifetime).

As you move up the Scale of Consciousness you change your frequency and thus you change which potential reality you are experiencing. Each potential reality comes with a different potential future which looms in the continuum. There is a version of "you" in all these potential realities simultaniously.

The "you" that is here/now is the "main focus" while all the other "probes" are more "unreal" as they do not contain nearly as much of the Higher Self "soul energy" as the you that are here/now.

As the split becomes more apparent we experience that some people that used to be "unreal/unconscious/automatic/closed" suddenly become more "alive/real/friendly/concious/awake/open". Others again will become even more "unreal/automatic/closed" as their "main focus" has been removed from the timeline you are on, and shifted into another potential reality. You are simply interacting with "the remains" of karmic potential/momentum playing itself out with minimum "soul energy" present from the higher Self.

I have experienced this very distinct lately. I see 4th density candidates coming alive and increasing their calibration towards matching the new level of mass consciousness. It can happen almost overnight in some cases. I also see 3rd density entities "leaving" this reality behind, and their "soul remains" just playing itself out, more or less automatic; like a karmic wind up toy. They are totally unresponsive to any change as they are not meant to change. They are simply probes from which the higher Self use to explore a specific potential. Their "main focus" are in another timeline altogether.

One of the reasons for a lot of the "dire predictions" out there is that as we move up the Scale we also "work through" a lot of potential futures until we reach the level we are "supposed" to reach and experience the corresponding "future".

This is my latest "download" which was provided to me because I held some questions in mind over time about how it really works with these potential realities... Just wanted to share it with you all

StS and StO

I have also calibrated a graph showing the relationship between the concept of Level of Consciousness and the concept of StO/(StS):



It’s important to realize that this graph only represent an average approximation. In actual individual cases the StO percentage can be both somewhat higher or lower than the corresponding LoC. The reason for this variance is the individual personality and its relative alignment to “the quest”. It is very possible to move up the scale “kicking and screaming” so to speak. Such a person will typically have a lower StO percentage than what is indicated by his/her LoC. A more conscious personality which aims to consciously align itself to the quest for Truth/Identity in an open and non-anticipating way will typically have a higher StO percentage than what is indicated by his/her LoC. Either way; the quality of Service to Others is inextricably connected to Level of Consciousness. An unfree person cannot help but enslave others around him/her, while the free person cannot help but free/assist those that “ask” and are ready.

Leaping above level 600 (the final doorway to non-duality, or so-called “Enlightenment”) equals becoming 100% StO. The worldly/individual personality “dies” (or is "harvested" if you wish) and is replaced by one’s full eternal identity or “higher Self” which contains the wisdom gained through every life up to that point (which in reality is just one continuous life). According to Hawkins the leap above 600 happens suddenly and unexpectedly like lightning from a clear blue sky. It feels like dying for a split second as the core of the ego is resolved into the field of Consciousness. It is the only actual death one can experience. Which level one “lands on” after that leap is probably dependent on how developed one’s “higher Self” actually is (and perhaps also limited by how much energy the physical body can handle as some land on say 750 and keep developing gradually until they reach 1000 (which is the maximum level of energy/light the current 3rd density body can handle)).

RA speaks about this briefly when he talks about the “magical personality”:

Questioner: The three aspects of the magical personality are stated to be power, love, and wisdom. Is this correct and are these the only primary aspects of the magical personality?

Ra: I am Ra. The three aspects of the magical personality, power, love, and wisdom, are so called in order that attention be paid to each aspect in developing the basic tool of the adept; that is, its self. It is by no means a personality of three aspects. It is a being of unity, a being of sixth density, and equivalent to what you call your Higher Self and at the same time is a personality enormously rich in variety of experience and subtlety of emotion.

Organic Portals:

Perhaps I should add that about 50% of the population have an incarnation level around 150 on the Scale. These are what is referred to in the Cassiopaean Material as Organic Portals (OP's). Only their 3 lower chakras are functioning:

3rd density vibration/consciousness: level 140-270 (3 lower Chakras domination)
4th density vibration/consciousness: level 271-380 (Heart Chakra)
5th density vibration/consciousness: level 381-480 (Throat Chakra)
6th density vibration/consciousness: level 481-539 (Third Eye)
7th density vibration/consciousness: level 540-1000 (Crown Chakra)

As we can see level 150 is right on the border to 2nd density (i.e. animalistic functioning). Since 40-45% of the population are Wanderers from higher densities (4th and up), this would leave around 5-10% as what the C's refer to as 4th density candidates. Of course anybody is an "organic portal" for a certain level of consciosusness. But those of lower level function as a "straw" for 4th density STS to drain energy from souled and developing beings. They are often "put into" the lives of those that have potential for growth to try to keep them down. Best to be aware of who your friends are... That would be all for this time

Thanks

[KathyT]

Sanat mentioned it in her very first post.
I prepared a collated post of all of Hidden_Hand's dialog back in Oct, it exists here:

Collated post of Hidden_Hand's dialog from abovetopsecret

I'm riding the fence on this topic... no way to prove it or disprove it.

Other threads here on the topic of Hidden Hand:
The 'Hidden Hand' a PROPER & 'POSITIVE' discussion of the material ONLY here!

Window of Opportunity

[micjer]

This is a wonderful thread that needs to be bumped.