Are you a victim of Voice2Skull technology?

[bossyroofer]

circlewerk,
thankyou for your testimony, I am glad you faced your fear and overcome the inner voice.
peace to you

http://www.angelfire.com/ca/heart7/MindControl.pdf
this is a study that proved to me and so I called this professor and he confirms an outside signal attacking this individual. Page 8 shows what I am saying, that there is an attack going on and its world wide.

[hueyii]

Originally Posted by bossyroofer

circlewerk,
thankyou for your testimony, I am glad you faced your fear and overcome the inner voice.
peace to you

http://www.angelfire.com/ca/heart7/MindControl.pdf
this is a study that proved to me and so I called this professor and he confirms an outside signal attacking this individual. Page 8 shows what I am saying, that there is an attack going on and its world wide.

I'm pretty sure Circlewerk isnt talking about technology being used to plant voices inside his head by use of a "signal".

You speak of a worldwide attack. Please help me understand how you know it is worldwide.


as for the study, I read it. It does not speak of technology being used to plant voices in peoples head. Specifically, Page 8:

Within a 5 km. radius of Deva's home, Deva is observed to respond to some unseen and outside force. This
force exhibits itself initially by a sudden movement of the head, severe pain in the head, and general
convulsive body movements. Such behaviour occurs regularly in the home, when shopping, in the car, in
church and even in the theatre.

Additionally on page 9 a probable cause of this energy field is given:

Of specific relevance is that Cometta (quoted in Andrews 1993) states that Pine Gap is not only a Space
Research Facility but is also “used to study Electro-Magnetic Propulsion , EMP”. “This research is
conducted completely underground”. He also claims there is an installed underground antenna “that can be
used to generate a gigantic ‘standing-wave’ around the earth which is the basis for a new type of
transmitter-receiver (transceiver)”. Cometta has also identified the presence of computers of “huge
capacity” and which are interconnected to similar assets in “Guam, Krugersdorp (South Africa) and the
Amundsen-Scott U. S. base at the South Pole

They also state that others that entered Deva's home could feel this energy. Your post talks about thoughts being beamed into a person. The evidence is not conmsistent with what you are talking about.

Thanks for the info. It was an interesting article and points out that electromagnetic fields are a threat to us all.

[bossyroofer]

[QUOTE=hueyii;93268]I'm pretty sure Circlewerk isnt talking about technology being used to plant voices inside his head by use of a "signal".

You speak of a worldwide attack. Please help me understand how you know it is worldwide.


I have a nephew in the usmc, this technology is what they use.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/mindc...s24jun05.shtml

and He tells me it is a sattelite system and this links info I checked with at fbi in phx,az and was told that its still classified as to how its used.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/smirnov.htm
and local and state police here in utah have confirmed that they use something similar.
you can do your own research the truth is out there.

[hueyii]

[QUOTE=bossyroofer;93276]

Originally Posted by hueyii

I have a nephew in the usmc, this technology is what they use.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/mindc...s24jun05.shtml

and He tells me it is a sattelite system and this links info I checked with at fbi in phx,az and was told that its still classified as to how its used.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/smirnov.htm
and local and state police here in utah have confirmed that they use something similar.
you can do your own research the truth is out there.

You have been studying this for years and want me to do my own research? Please respond to the inconsistencies with the PDF you posted. It isnt talking about mind control at all.

As for the links above, the first one talks about silently inducing a change in the emotional state of groups of people. It is far from conclusive that it works. Besides, this has nothing to do with voices in a students head. The second link, aside from listing an area code that is in california with a PO box in North Carolina, talks about Chris Green from GM being the director of General Motors Corp. Biomedical Research Department in Detroit when he is actually GM's Director of Technology/Research Partnerships and does cancer research. It also states that the Soviet Union used this technology in its war with Afganistan. If it was truly an effective weapon then why did they lose that war? Why did we not use it against them in Georgia? The paper talks about the Soviets working with us on this technology. That does not make any sense.

Please excuse me but I cannot continue to review the info you are sending. None of it fits and most of it is just random and pointless.

If the US govt had the technology then our govt would be using it on the people we cannot control. (Syria and Iran come to mind) As for your military friend, I have some too and they talk about bombs and bullets, not mind control.

Thanks for engaging me but I must go.

[Visvasa144]

Originally Posted by hueyii

Please excuse me but I cannot continue to review the info you are sending. None of it fits and most of it is just random and pointless.

If the US govt had the technology then our govt would be using it on the people we cannot control. (Syria and Iran come to mind) As for your military friend, I have some too and they talk about bombs and bullets, not mind control.

Thanks for engaging me but I must go.

dont go yet. first of all if you are really a civilian why would military men talk about stuff that they have taken an oath to never talk about, to you. do you think just because your friend or family member has been in the service
they would tell you? dont kid yourself.

just because you read information and let's just say its the best info. out their on the web or in person or whatever. you haven't experienced this technology for yourself. your still getting the information from another source. so though all this information is presented to you and you of course can decide what is true to you or not. you haven't experienced this. if you have you would know for a fact like i do that this technology is and has been used against many people worldwide. i have lived in Europe and Shanghai for over 4 years. now, either im "crazy" because no matter where i go i still can hear voices trying to ask me and threaten me with all kinds of stuff.

i've got 2 degrees and have worked for 2 fortune 500 co. in the past. the thing is that im superduper spiritual and when this happens you also become superduper psychic or at least i did. now your only scratching the surface of what kinds of technology is out there.

let me fill you in on some of the technology. faster then light computers that can travel back in time and steal soul pieces from you in previous lives so that these evil MF can slow down you spiritual progress. electronic weapons that can be shot in and at your auric field to cause many adverse reactions.
telepathic torture is just scratching the surface.

i go up against FBI, Ex-Military, Military, Black Magicians, and other Nefarious beings every single day and night and even in my sleep. yes in my sleep. when your sleeping your just in a different reality. so some of the rules when our eyes are closed fall away but one thing is a constant, Loving Kindness is a catalyst.

please read my blog,
http://heavenlycatalyst144.blogspot.com

take care,
elias visvasa

[Visvasa144]

[bossyroofer]

Originally Posted by Visvasa144

dont go yet. first of all if you are really a civilian why would military men talk about stuff that they have taken an oath to never talk about, to you. do you think just because your friend or family member has been in the service
they would tell you? dont kid yourself.

i've got 2 degrees and have worked for 2 fortune 500 co. in the past. the thing is that im superduper spiritual and when this happens you also become superduper psychic or at least i did. now your only scratching the surface of what kinds of technology is out there.
http://heavenlycatalyst144.blogspot.com

take care,
elias visvasa

I just want to set the record straight, I know cause I two am a targetd Individual, I first thoght it was my military experiance, so I went to the V.A. for help 6 years later I finaly relized I had to except over come and adapt,
and by the way I own my home, my own bussiness, I clear over 300 thousand a year and I drive a caddliac escalade, which I bought myself. I wonder what these real men are driveing?
You can live with the voices in your mind, but the kids are struggleing and dieing.

peace and love to the targeted
those who don't bleave are liveing without!

[hueyii]

I spent 5 years in the military. Trained with Special forces and 82nd airborne, served in Korea. I took the oath along with hundreds of others. There is no oath to keep secrets from civilians only to protect and defend the constitution. They get everyone together in an auditorium and say "Repeat after me" This is no blood oath at all. Id trust these people with my life and you would too if you knew them. And I am a civilian. Retired with disability but still a civilian.

I'm sure you are an intelligent person and understand that you cannot believe everything you read on the internet. You need to check it out thoroughly. In your case I understand that if you feel you are having a common experience with someone that you are less likely to ask questions regarding the shared experience.

I, and many others have voices in my head. The voices sometimes produce thoughts that are irrational, horrific and totally out of character. I've shared these thoughts with people close to me and they have had similar experience. In my spiritual quest I came to understand that I am not my mind. My mind is a "machine" that my spirit uses as an aperature to this reality. The mind is constantly processing information to the point where it takes practice to shut it up. This I learned to do through meditation. The mind never really shuts up during meditation but I allow my "self" to seperate from it and observe it. My inner voice (which we all have) leads me these days and it tells me I am on the right path. Thats a voice I can trust.

Our minds are simply overstimulated by our society. There is just too much out there vying for our attention. Computers, cell phones, noise pollution, health issues and dont get me started about the media. Our minds are on overload and in many cases people become delusional, psychotic and do crazy things. In my world, society is the cancer that feed the fear that feeds the mind with confusion. But again, that is just my opinion.

During meditation I am able to trace thoughts to the point where they originate. There are only two sources of any thought, fear and love. Fear is the only cause of horrific or otherwise dark thoughts. Fear that someone is after me, my job, my money etc. These fear based thoughts are not planted in my mind. I take full responsibility for them.

I do not know the source of your thoughts. I feel for you if you are suffering. My wish is not to compound suffering but to try and understand, in a rational way, the alleged cause and if it is something I can validate. So far I cannot. The links that were given to me were not related to the allegation that someone can plant thoughts in someone elses brain and cause them to do something against thier will. Bossy claims that voice to skull technology has played a roll in school shootings and that the perpetrators were hearing voices. He makes other allegations that, to be frank, are very hard for me to believe. All I'm asking for is something I can hold onto but so far all I get is vague web pages that are not related to his allegations. This leads me to not believe for myself, what he is saying. No disrespect here, just disbelief.

If you guys are right and I'm wrong then that should all come out someday and if I can talk to you I will state my belief. For now I am not even remotely convinced that this is a worldwide attack and that it caused those kids to take a gun to school and kill other kids.

May you find peace and may your suffering cease.

[bossyroofer]

I hope only the best for all, I just can't help but beleave in these kids and I for myself will stand between them and those I know are targeting them.

god bless and thanks for serveing your country.

Originally Posted by hueyii

I spent 5 years in the military. Trained with Special forces and 82nd airborne, served in Korea. I took the oath along with hundreds of others. There is no oath to keep secrets from civilians only to protect and defend the constitution. They get everyone together in an auditorium and say "Repeat after me" This is no blood oath at all. Id trust these people with my life and you would too if you knew them. And I am a civilian. Retired with disability but still a civilian.

I'm sure you are an intelligent person and understand that you cannot believe everything you read on the internet. You need to check it out thoroughly. In your case I understand that if you feel you are having a common experience with someone that you are less likely to ask questions regarding the shared experience.

I, and many others have voices in my head. The voices sometimes produce thoughts that are irrational, horrific and totally out of character. I've shared these thoughts with people close to me and they have had similar experience. In my spiritual quest I came to understand that I am not my mind. My mind is a "machine" that my spirit uses as an aperature to this reality. The mind is constantly processing information to the point where it takes practice to shut it up. This I learned to do through meditation. The mind never really shuts up during meditation but I allow my "self" to seperate from it and observe it. My inner voice (which we all have) leads me these days and it tells me I am on the right path. Thats a voice I can trust.

Our minds are simply overstimulated by our society. There is just too much out there vying for our attention. Computers, cell phones, noise pollution, health issues and dont get me started about the media. Our minds are on overload and in many cases people become delusional, psychotic and do crazy things. In my world, society is the cancer that feed the fear that feeds the mind with confusion. But again, that is just my opinion.

During meditation I am able to trace thoughts to the point where they originate. There are only two sources of any thought, fear and love. Fear is the only cause of horrific or otherwise dark thoughts. Fear that someone is after me, my job, my money etc. These fear based thoughts are not planted in my mind. I take full responsibility for them.

I do not know the source of your thoughts. I feel for you if you are suffering. My wish is not to compound suffering but to try and understand, in a rational way, the alleged cause and if it is something I can validate. So far I cannot. The links that were given to me were not related to the allegation that someone can plant thoughts in someone elses brain and cause them to do something against thier will. Bossy claims that voice to skull technology has played a roll in school shootings and that the perpetrators were hearing voices. He makes other allegations that, to be frank, are very hard for me to believe. All I'm asking for is something I can hold onto but so far all I get is vague web pages that are not related to his allegations. This leads me to not believe for myself, what he is saying. No disrespect here, just disbelief.

If you guys are right and I'm wrong then that should all come out someday and if I can talk to you I will state my belief. For now I am not even remotely convinced that this is a worldwide attack and that it caused those kids to take a gun to school and kill other kids.

May you find peace and may your suffering cease.

I cannot speak to Bossyroofer's claims except to say
that Whitely Strieber has spoken of being subjected to
the standoff technology in one of his members area
MP3s

What I can say is that there is little doubt that the technology exists and that it works.

How do I know this?

I own and have played with the original device; the Flanagan neurophone. I have also looked up the original
Life magazine article chronicling the young Patrick Flanagan and his device (circa 1963)
http://www.phisciences.com/lifemagazine.html
before Patrick and
his neurophone were absorbed into the intelligence community and placed under a veil of secrecy which was
not lifted until the early nineties . Why would they lift the veil? Because the proof of concept device was old news and they had developed much cooler versions.

http://www.eternalshop.com/neurophone-dspbr-c-26.html

The neurophone does indeed work. You place the transducers anywhere on the body and you can hear whatever is being piped into the neurophone in your head. Some areas work better than others. The palms and feet transmit the signal better than the butt does.
I planned to place the transducers on the back of my neck underneath my clothing ( the equivalent of wearing a headset) so I could listen to pre-recorded mp3s while at work dealing with the public. Sadly, the transducers are very fragile and one broke after only a few days. I laid the experiment aside and have not played with it in a few years now.

Bottom line. The technological concept is sound. It would not surprise me at all that it had evolved to stand off wireless equipment. My impression from the description that Whitely Strieber gave was that it was a hand held line of sight device that could be aimed from a parked car in the street at a subject of interest in the bedroom of his house on the back side of the lot. That the carrier beam passed through walls and the like from the hand held device.

Why would it be a stretch that larger versions might be used in psyops operations on targeted groups, possibly even satellite based technology? The ability to reach out and touch someone with non lethal devices to get the subjects to do your bidding through pain sound or other stimuli is seductive and sought after. Of this there is no doubt. The handheld device Whitely spoke of only created suggestions. He was savvy enough to wake from his nap and go looking for the source catching the culprits red handed transmitting from the street. They sped off with some haste.

Perhaps other less sophisticated subjects might not be quite so discriminating at filtering inputs. I'm not saying that it is, just that it could be.

That you would not have access to the technology in your capacity is no surprise. I suspect that it would be classified, and not being attached to that unit
would hardly have a need to know.

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/0...emoves-pa.html

[hueyii]

Anything is possible. I imagine that if this technology, in any of the forms described, did exist, we would see it being used for something besides making high school kids into shooters and messing with random people. They would be going for bigger things like knocking off heads of state

Originally Posted by hueyii

Anything is possible. I imagine that if this technology, in any of the forms described, did exist, we would see it being used for something besides making high school kids into shooters and messing with random people. They would be going for bigger things like knocking off heads of state

Who is to say that it hasn't or isn't being used in that
capacity?

It would fall under the umbrella of psychological warfare
which is a well developed military science.

After America invaded Afganistan there was an article in
newsweek about a psyops operation called commando solo whose open source mission is manipulation of radio and television signals. This would be an ideal platform for the employment of covert V2K missions against both
military and civilian targets. The proverbial voice of God.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ec-130e.htm

What is more disturbing is the employment of these
techniques against targets on American soil. I would
expect such missions to be highly classified and limited
to a very small circle of need to know individuals.

Why would you need to use such techniques when you
have the perfect mind control device in every home in
America? Catherine Austin Fitts tells the story of overhearing two advertising executives on the streets
of New York talking about entrainment. That was the day
that she got rid of her television.

I personally do not think that V2K technology is responsible for school shootings. However, there is
evidence in the Columbine shootings that there was
a possible psyops operation going on which included
roll playing complete with props prior to the event.

Other, later shootings may stem from the undeniable
pressures young people are subjected to today along
with the widespread use of powerful mind altering psychotropic drugs - another whole topic which
I can talk about at length if you desire. The entire class
of antidepressants that Lexapro (which was in use at the
Columbine disaster), the SSRIs, are black boxed for people under 18 years of age for suicidal ideation.

My personal feeling about this violence is if there were
an active manipulation occurring, it is through the use
of monarch programed children activating delta alters
for mayhem and death. Another topic of very broad scope. V2K could possibly be used to "trigger" alter
programs in monarch children. But then, so could the
television, or the radio, or the Ipod...

Yes. One recent thread in a Wired blog is called 'UN Investigates Electromagnetic Terrorism.' A good discussion with other links follows this article. There are people, including me, trying to make progress. I've not focussed as much on V2S (voice to skull), even though I'm quite certain that its purpose is twofold: experimental use (individually) and - or FOR - social destabilization, maybe to justify eroding civil rights, as smokescreens for other nefarious activities?

In Canada, for instance, a lone Greyhound bus passenger suddenly decapitates his seat mate with a knife on some rural route. So strange. Now, the entire national bus system is getting security cameras and the low budget method of travel requires a frisking before boarding.

Other oddball cases: in my neighborhood, a father who complained of voices in his head suddenly murdered the tenant in the basement, his wife and 2 young daughters. Also, so strange. I'd give links for these two examples, but the stories are easily found in Canadian news. It's almost common. OMG

As for the Wired thread: I wonder if anyone here may have something to contribute to it? One writer recently called for information in an effort to move it forward. Here's the link.

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/1....html#comments

Another resource is the discussion after the article 'Secret Directed-Energy Technology Protecting the President?' [The President-elect, actually.] It covers terms and raises lots of good questions. Alas, no good answers yet.

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/1...ents-secr.html

I'm still looking into it all. There is no better way of subduing a populace. It keeps tensions high, people unsettled & distracted and, therefore, easily suggestible for 'guidance' into new political systems that would not be rationally chosen. It's probably nor great for dissenters either.

It's all fascist to me.

Oops. When I said 'Yes' at the beginning of post, I was answering Baggywrinkle in my thoughts, i.e. yes, I'm pretty sure it's all workable technology.

My answer to the thread question is No. (I just have the usual sh*t in my head at present. I do meditation too - to quiet the gang down.)