The Obama admnistration declares health emergency.

[alyscat]

Yesterday, compared to the day before, the media was looking at other things. The flu dropped considerably in their lineup.

I think it's too early to make any decisions on how serious this will be. The potential is for it to come in waves, and we've not even seen the end of the first wave.

Let's hope it's not as serious as some have predicted.

alys

Originally Posted by DoctorWho

Some of the comments (including my own) on Facebook with people I associate with also say this thing is a big media blow up over something that really hasn't gotten as serious, say, like turburculosis, which killed more people last year in the US than the swine flu has in the entrie world thus far, per Ron Paul.
Bill "the Doctor'

[micjer]

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak

i posted this earlier, but i'm still curious. could it be targeted at ethnic groups? hispanics? is that sort of genetic engineering specificity possible?

I thought this was odd too. Makes you think about this....



The rounding up of ilegal aliens (mainly hispanics) connected?


http://www.aclum.org/pdf/endgame.pdf

[alyscat]

There was a rumor that SARS was targeted at orientals or asians based on the fact that once it hit Canada, the main victims of the disease were asian. All you have to do is work on the genetics.
alys

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak

i posted this earlier, but i'm still curious. could it be targeted at ethnic groups? hispanics? is that sort of genetic engineering specificity possible?

[piers2210]

Hey Karen, where can you buy hydrogen peroxide?

[David]

You should be able to pick that up at your local apothecary.

[Anchor]

Well the problem with Hydrogen Peroxide is that it can be used for naughty things. Some countries make it hard to buy.

A..

[Karen]

Originally Posted by piers2210

Hey Karen, where can you buy hydrogen peroxide?

In the USA just about any pharmacy or grocery store in the pharmacy section. Tends to the in the section with the bandaids as its good for cleaning wounds, and with the epsom salts which are great for a detox bath - 2 cups in the bath water. It's in our dollar stores - all over the place.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by piers2210

Masks: it depends if the virus is aimed at YOU or not.

When the SARS virus was at its peak, i was travelling around asia all the time on planes, in and out of hong kong where it was in a cronic state, and i never thought of wearing a mask - often i was the only person on a plane in asia/china who DIDN'T wear a mask - but i instinctively knew the virus was NOT aimed at me....

these things are all "directed" against certain types. We just need to know WHO the "distributors" of the virus are aiming it against this time. Anyone got any ideas?

What does that mean..Not aimed at you...how would that work?

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by BROOK

What does that mean..Not aimed at you...how would that work?

I heard somewhere that now thwy are able to manufacture almost "customized" viruses, to target a specific race, age group, gender,etc.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by burgundia

I heard somewhere that now thwy are able to manufacture almost "customized" viruses, to target a specific race, age group, gender,etc.

Reminds me of the god-awful murals in the Denver airport. I was there - I saw them. Particularly reminds me of the one with the 3-4 ladies in the coffins - a Jewish girl, a black woman, and I think an American Indian -

[Humble Janitor]

I refuse to even look at pictures of that place. The vibes it sends out are so bad, it's not worth the influx of negative energy.

[piers2210]

There are many sources of information out there which indicate that viruses, eg AIDS and SARs etc are "customised" as Burgundia says. Icke has a lot of information on the AIDS virus for instance.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by burgundia

I heard somewhere that now thwy are able to manufacture almost "customized" viruses, to target a specific race, age group, gender,etc.

Thanks Burgundia....Now I know what he meant

Thanks Piers

[piers2210]

A good indication of who a virus is aimed at is to look at where it "starts" in the world...is it in a black area, hispanic area, chinese area, jewish etc etc...

[piers2210]

You've really freaked me out now Karen....i can't not go to the gym for 6 months!!

[Karen]

Originally Posted by piers2210

You've really freaked me out now Karen....i can't not go to the gym for 6 months!!

Hey Piers, if that is a picture of you there on the left, you don't look hispanic!

Maybe just do the hydrogen peroxide in the ears treatment after you go out:

The rest is quoted from:
http://www.healingdaily.com/exercise...de-in-ears.htm

Hydrogen peroxide in the ears for the flu and colds?

Although it would appear to contradict what we are taught about the flu and colds, many people have tried hydrogen peroxyde in the ears with great success. Hydrogen peroxide works quite well and is supposed to be effective about 4 times out of 5, especially if done when the symptoms first appear.

In 1928, Dr. Richard Simmons, hypothesized that colds and flu virus enter our bodies through the ear canal. It was Dr. Simmons' hypothesis that, contrary to what we have been taught, we usually can catch the two via the ear canal and not through the eyes or nose or mouth as most of us believe. Dr. Simmons' findings were dismissed by the medical community.
According to Dr. Simmons, keeping your fingers out of our ears will greatly reduce our chances of catching colds and the flu, but we need to keep in mind that these 2 are microscopic and can be air-born and may land on/in our ears. Once these microscopic bodies have entered the inner-ear, they then begin to breed, and from there they have access to every avenue throughout our bodies to travel, and infect and make us sick.
hydrogen peroxide in ear

Remarkable results can be achieved in curing colds and the flu within 12-14 hours when we administer a few drops of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) into each ear. The H2O2 starts working within 2-3 minutes in killing the cold or flu. There will be some bubbling and in some cases mild stinging might occur. I do this myself and I can assure you that it is not painful in any way. It tickles more than anything.

Wait until the bubbling subsides - usually a few minutes - then drain onto a tissue and repeat with the other ear.

Although this practice is perfectly safe for infants and children to use, the loud bubbling and stinging may frighten them, and they will need someone they trust to put the hydrogen peroxide in their ears. DO NOT get hydrogen peroxide in the eyes - if you do, flush with water.

Many people have also successfully used the 3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution in ears packed with wax, to help loosen it up after it has been soaked with oil for a few minutes (any oil will do, olive oil usually works best)

[BROOK]

I do remember hearing about that...but when I did....I thought ...that is not possible so I put it out of my mind and dismissed it...it amazes me that they can do that

[Carol]

I like what Ron Paul had to say.

http://thedeviltheory.blogspot.com/2...flu-scare.html

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

Originally Posted by piers2210

.... Anyone got any ideas?

I doubt theres much exclusivity engineered into this one. You're right, they have done quite a bit of ethnic-specific targeting before. But if the intent of this is to coax us into a NWO, then it would follow that it would be an equal opportunity virus.

[Humble Janitor]

I just realized that if I were to be trapped inside for 10 days, that I have a stash of homebrewed beer that could help me out if I couldn't get food in time. It's bottle conditioned and still has yeast sediment in it. Yeast has B vitamins. The beer is somewhat more nutritious with the yeast still in it. Gives ya gas but at least I've got something other than food.

Thinking about buying a mask to wear but I'm not sure yet. I will ask the boss if he plans to order any for work as I would not mind wearing one while cleaning. I got a nasty virus a few weeks back because I wasn't wearing gloves properly. I know better now and I sort of, but not really, worry that there could be more viruses out there.

[piers2210]

I reckon on 28 days food supply, and keep completely off the streets.

Of course its easier if you don't live in a big city, but i reckon in potential epidemic times, where anyone is a potential "carrier", you just don't go near anyone.....

29 days should see the worst over...or do you think even longer is necessary?

[Karen]

Originally Posted by piers2210

I reckon on 28 days food supply, and keep completely off the streets.

Of course its easier if you don't live in a big city, but i reckon in potential epidemic times, where anyone is a potential "carrier", you just don't go near anyone.....

29 days should see the worst over...or do you think even longer is necessary?

Miki, I think it was, shared with the mods that a sneeze cloud can stay in a room for hours. So don't go near anyone doesn't necessarily work either.

I also saw 6 ft away is safer than a nearer distance.

Dr. Deagle on Jeff Rense (see Camelot front page) lays it all out about what he thinks. Definitely a bioweapon, that will recombine with wild flu strains, and will infect not just birds and humans, but cats, dogs, herds of cattle - many types of animals. It will recombine in phases of 6 weeks, or 3 months or 6 months, and get more lethal and go on repeatedly for years.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I just realized that if I were to be trapped inside for 10 days, that I have a stash of homebrewed beer that could help me out if I couldn't get food in time. It's bottle conditioned and still has yeast sediment in it. Yeast has B vitamins. The beer is somewhat more nutritious with the yeast still in it. Gives ya gas but at least I've got something other than food.

I don't know if I could find the source now if I looked, but a long time ago it was noticed that AIDS victims that drank a lot of beer did better than those who did not drink beer. Especially a dark beer like Guinness, the yeast produces lots of beta-glucans that boost immunity.

Quote from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-glucan
Additional applications
Influence of certain cereals (barley, oats) and edible mushrooms upon decrease of levels of serum cholesterol and liver low-density lipoproteins, leading to lowering of atherosclerosis and cardiovascular disease hazards, is also mediated by b-glucans.[47] It is known that cereals, mushrooms and yeast facilitate bowel motility and can be used in amelioration of intestinal problems, particularly obstipation.[48][49] Non-digestible b-glucans, forming a remarkable portion of these materials, are also able to modulate mucosal immunity of the intestinal tract.[50] In the central nervous system, β-glucans activate microglial cells.[51] These cells act as scavengers of the brain cell debris and play a positive role in Alzheimer's disease, AIDS, ischemia injury and multiple sclerosis.[52][53]

[Humble Janitor]

Not to panic or anything, but when exactly did this flu break out?

I was very sick 2 weeks ago with a virus (or so the doc said) with a high fever, fatigue, sore throat and coughing.

[alyscat]

This is one of the reasons, HJ, that they're having a hard time pinning numbers on it. They don't know how many "mild" cases might be out there - cases undiagnosed, that didn't go to the hospital - and if there are mild cases out there it provides an opportunity for the disease to continue to mutate into something more deadly.