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Old 09-29-2008, 10:57 PM   #1
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Okay friends. Here is the update:

Posted 9/23/08 on godlikeproductions.com

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Running to Keep Up With Events

Since Cliff and I were on CoastToCoastAM overnight, events have started to unroll at breakneck speed. So here's a summary of what has changed since we were on:

In our interview last night, Cliff pointed out that the latest output from modelspace seems to indicate that the meltdown in October will likely split into two components. A financial aspect which will hit about October 7th and then a 'military' oriented event(s) that will happen about October 15th. Then, this morning's editions of the New York Sun headline that "Spies Warn that Al Qaida Aims for October Surprise."

The next thing up was a phone call from m,y tax attorney/CPA who has been keeping track on the back of an envelope - he says that as far as he can figure, the cost of all the bailouts willk total about $1.8 trillion dollars, but in his estimate (remember, he's only a tax attorney and CPA - not an advisor to any of the players) the real total could run upwards of $5-trillion dollars when all is said and done. The problem he outlines is this: When you read up on how much the bailout will cost bear in mind that the biggest players have not yet indicasted their feelings on the matter. And those 'biggest players' are whom? The foreigners who will end up loaning us to money to do our bailout. His point boils down to this: We're already borrowing about $2-billion a day to keep America solvent (we've been living on credit for years and that's our balance of trade deficit calculated daily. So now, if you are a foreigner investing in America, you have to ask youself this question: If we're already lending the USA $2-billion a day, should we lend them an additiona $1.8 trillion - or maybe two or three times that in order to bail them out? In the end, my tax attorney/CPA pal says nope, someone's going to blink, global competitive currency devaluations will be "Game on!" and the dollar will get slammed. Of course, as a long term reader, you'll recall that when when the dollar is devalued internationally, the prices we pay domestically for things will seem to go up. Thus, if the dollar's value drops by half, the prices we pay on the global market for flat screen teevees, oil, and other 'necessities of life' will double. Gold is up over $25 an ounce the last time I looked and a doubling of gold would put it near enough to $1,500 an ounce..

Then my pal "The Bond Dude" called to say "You missed it - ever so slightly." Oh-oh...being in no condition being sleep deprived, I made him explain slowly what I missed: "When you're talking about the Private Sector Coinvestment idea, that's on the front end - before the government money goes in, so that as soon as the private guys make their slice, they will take out the public 90%. In other words, it's a buy-in on the front-end, not the back...". OK, that's making sense.

OK, now back to 20+ voicemails, a hundred emails, and then maybe I can get some client work done...

In our discussion of how the webbot project orf www.halfpasthuman.com works, the following graphic is useful to consider. Think of an 'event' in our immediate future - such as the 'life changer' that shows up in modelspace on or around October 7th, 7:10 UTC or so, as a rock thrown into a still pond. We'll call it the "Event" in this drawing:

Unfortunately, the future is never so simple as a single thought, a single rock. Nope. The Universe makes things unfathomably complicated by not dumping in 'an event' this time - it's more (as Cliff puts it) like a series of gravel trucks are backed up and dumped into the pond, day after day for the next six months. That, in itself should give you some ideas about investing in diesel, buying hiking shoes, having stored foods, and so forth. Whatever it is we're seeing in model space, life is about to go through a dramatic change of 'order'.

The highlights are Massive change in financial structures (ongoing, see next item) then whatever the October 7th events are, then a series of release or emotions events till March 2009. Something with a lot of 'military' aspect to it on October 15th, or thereabout. Then one big earthquake, likely Pacific Northwest around December 10th, with another one within days (Dec. 12th in model space).

Then we get rising discontent/talk of rebellion/revolution through the spring, the Summer of Hell in 2009, and strange disappearances - but it ain't the Rapture - think more like 'the harvesting' starts in late summer 2009.

Me? I'll be going on an anorexic diet. Don't want to look like a main course come 2010.

[link to www.urbansurvival.com]
If I find a more recent update I will let you know. Just search the net using the keywords: web bot predictions update october surprise 2008

That will feed this thread with more curiosity. Good Luck.

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Old 09-29-2008, 11:41 PM   #2
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I am definitely interested in hearing more about the disappearances in 2009 that they mentioned on that coast to coast interview.

Who/what kind of people will be disappearing? They mentioned some of the "powers that be" disappearing? Are we going to be eaten? What's the deal? Any interpretations on this?


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Old 09-30-2008, 01:30 AM   #3
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I'm ready to starve to death. Bring it.
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:17 AM   #4
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for some reason this made me LOL so hard
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Old 10-02-2008, 11:06 PM   #5
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You rock my world! It makes no sense
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:18 AM   #6
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I totally agree with Number 404.

I have had personal experiences with Cliff. He is a great guy. If I know one person in the world wouldnt jump at the first sight of money it will have to be Cliff. I stress I speak through personal experience.

He and George have stressed countless times that the subscription is only for wealthy who can afford 'entertainment' and not for the people who have less money. I suggest people to listen to his interviews before coming to a judgement. Go to his website halfpasthuman.com The biggest message you ll see is 'flee, your sanity is at risk'. money makers wouldnt say that. Again, I was actually trying my best to avoid this thread but it got the better of me. Since I know Cliff a little from email exchanges, I can gurantee you beyond a shadow of a doubt that this person is not in it for money. If he was, he woudl have been a multi millionaire already.

It would be okay in my opinion to debate the validity of the technology, but not of the people making it. If you work, as your days job by making a technology. Would you give it for free and not make any money and beg on the street for living? No is what I guess the answer is. And he does give very important stuff for free at urbansurvival.com You didnt get the 7th OCT from subcriptions. It was there for free on the other site.

My point is without knowing someone it is unfair to criticize them.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:27 AM   #7
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Then we get rising discontent/talk of rebellion/revolution through the spring, the Summer of Hell in 2009, and strange disappearances - but it ain't the Rapture - think more like 'the harvesting' starts in late summer 2009.
oh my oh my......you know what this is about right , hey you guys.....?
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:27 AM   #8
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I want to add to 404's comments here - there are 3 things going, halfpast human, which is pricey at over 200 dollars, but that is all the hard data for a particular run of the web-bots program, something only a true geek would love, and with my non-geekyness, I anticipate would take a huge harddrive and a lot of programmer and linguistic skills (something Clif has) to interpret. Wanna manipulate numbers and charts? Without the skillset to interpret, it's gonna be pretty useless to most of us. (And I say all this with the greatest respect to geekyness .)

Then there is Peoplenomics, which is George Ure's subscription site, runs 40 dollars a year (less than $4 a month) and has extended info beyond his FREE SITE, which is UrbanSurvival.com. (George and Clif are the Time Monks who together bring us the web-bot info)

Everything that is really important will end up on the free site, which is updated Monday through Friday, so rather than complain about the cost or get into arguments over ethical/not ethical, just go on over to the free site, http://www.urbansurvival.com, and read the important info there.

George's extended supply list (which seems to be what the original poster was posting about, the "Get Ready to Go Camping" report, not a real HPH report), which was posted on Peoplenomics (i.e., the $40 a year site), was simply his personal wish list of things to have/do in case of emergency. None of them was original (water, food, shelter, clothing, comunication.), but they were things he felt was of value if everything goes to heck in a handbasket. You can find the same information all over the web, if you will just search for it. In fact, I would strongly recommend you do the research for yourself, because in looking at what your particular siutation is (are you rural, are you urban, do you have extended family to consider, what about meds, etc) you can get really clear on what YOU need. George lives on a ranch in Texas, so some of his needs will not be the same as yours.

Have you done your planning, should things go south? Are you implementing those plans now? It's not fear mongering to be prepared. It's only fear mongering if you attach an emotion to it, focus on it and let it paralyze you. I have clothes for all seasons, I'm prepared (at least in terms of clothes, but a girlfriend I have is the MOST prepared in terms of shoes of any one person I've ever seen, LOL) But I don't even think about clothes emotionally, because there's nothing to be emotional about.

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I do not see the information underneath Urban Survival as being any more enlightening than what you can read for free.

Clif has said it time and time again... the information is for those that have enough foresight as well as the funds to appreciate the additional information.

I am not here to defend HPH or Urban Survival... I just wanted to say that

if INFORMATION is only accessible via a registered account and somebody just goes and posts it, I don't question the company charging for the registration... I question the person posting irresponsibly.

If you think it is irresponsible of HPH charging the fee they charge, contact them. Debating it here is fruitless as well as not within the realm of Avalon's message.

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Old 09-30-2008, 06:27 PM   #9
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I do not see the information underneath Urban Survival as being any more enlightening than what you can read for free.
Of course it is, its a new method of gathering information whereby it taps into the global subconcious, leading to what can be some remarkably accurate intuitive information which has already proven itself more then once.

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Clif has said it time and time again... the information is for those that have enough foresight as well as the funds to appreciate the additional information.
I do not have those funds. And my entire point in posting what I did was to express my dissapointment that the people who run that site could not make some information free to the public. Especially when it is as pertinent as this.

* This website predicted that there would be huge global turmoil in september of 2001. This in itself is enough to make me take notice. And it is their duty as human beings to warn the public if there is another event about to take place. But no, they want us to pay. If you agree with this, that is your opinion. And if i was paying to view this information and noticed that there was going to be a massive global event in the next month i would stick my two fingers up too copywrite and inform my fellow humans. That is ethical. I'm gonna have to talk to jesus some day.

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if INFORMATION is only accessible via a registered account and somebody just goes and posts it, I don't question the company charging for the registration... I question the person posting irresponsibly.
I think the poster was right in bringing this to our attention. If something is going to happen i would much rather everyone be prepared rather then be ethical where copywrite is concerned. Excuse my french but in situations like this f**k copywrite.

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If you think it is irresponsible of HPH charging the fee they charge, contact them. Debating it here is fruitless as well as not within the realm of Avalon's message.
I did not wish to debate it. I was simply stating my opinion. Your reply to my post opened the debate.

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Old 09-30-2008, 07:12 PM   #10
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If you listen to the c2c interview with these guys, they come off as caring and credible and they give away a great deal of their predictive info. At one point one of them says something to the effect of " it's too late to worry about giving away something we could charge for instead." Also, on the site it admonishes people that they should not subscribe unless the amount is a pittance for them. And they are very up-front about the fact that there is a great deal of interpretation involved in their work and that they are sometimes wrong about the language that appears around a particular event. The c2c interview seems to have a fairly generous amount of info, admittedly partial and of questionable meaning. In a way, because they are, during the interview, giving the benefit of their interpretive skill and openly allowing for the deficiencies of the system, I felt as though I didn't really need to subscribe. I don't think they are hucksters.
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:50 AM   #11
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[QUOTE=2infinityandbeyond;32226]Ahh if theres a chance everything may change for the worse is it really ethical to charge a person so they can be informed? (which may in fact save their life)


I guess what George provides to his subscribers is just additioanl information added to the main agenda. In the latest newsletter for example, he provided an extensive list of things for a 'life time camping.' If I were to make the list myself, it would have taken weeks and weeks of extensive research. The newsletter saves our research labor and time. Inspecting trough the list I found a key to the ultimate survival, that?, i can't tell. Because it's something YOU should discover for yourself. If it wasn't YOU, you won't find it.

I'm not an advocate of HPH or anything either, but one thing sure is 'good amount of preparation time' for us living through this historical times of trouble.

It may not be a good idea of questioning 'ethics' of George Ure. Simply because a negative surmise or a judgement on one's ethical base wouldn't make you ethically better person.

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Old 09-30-2008, 07:34 AM   #12
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Ahh if theres a chance everything may change for the worse is it really ethical to charge a person so they can be informed? (which may in fact save their life)

Word is, a nuke is going to hit. I wont tell you where unless you pay me. Its a loose analogy but but it gives an example of just how unethical it can be to be ethical.

This year is proving to be very stressfull.

Come on my friend, that is a total BS analogy. The Time Monks (whom I did subscribe to for a brief period of time and made quite a bit of useless 'fun ticket' FRN's off of tuggin'me'forelock') say they don't know what they are doing. If someone WANTS to pay for their analysis, as I did. The output of data is limited by an end user agreement. I have worked in situations where the data I held in my hand (not knowing the actual data) was 'secure'. I would not exchange that data with competitors.
Thwy don't claim to know anything so anyone whom pays them does so at their own risk. They can predict trends and events quite nicely with 20/20 hindsight. Except in the metals market......
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:56 PM   #13
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HalfpastHuman is a SCAM. $280.00. Yeah Right. I don't think many people can afford to read this report. And it is mainly going to scare you anyway.
Which is the whole point. Curiosity+Fear=Paid Subscription

Don't fall for the negativity folks.

And if something does happen, I'm sure you can scan the web for clues for FREE.

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Old 09-30-2008, 12:49 AM   #14
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HalfpastHuman is a SCAM. $280.00. Yeah Right. I don't think many people can afford to read this report. And it is mainly going to scare you anyway.
Which is the whole point. Curiosity+Fear=Paid Subscription

Don't fall for the negativity folks.

And if something does happen, I'm sure you can scan the web for clues for FREE.

Peace.
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and assume you didn't listen to the coast to coast interview with the Half past Human guys, and probably haven't checked out the half past human website, which says people should NOT subscribe as it's way too much money, and only for entertainment purposes.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:55 AM   #15
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, and assume you didn't listen to the coast to coast interview with the Half past Human guys, and probably haven't checked out the half past human website, which says people should NOT subscribe as it's way too much money, and only for entertainment purposes.
I don't like the sound of that...
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I don't like the sound of that...
I think it's just to cover their butts from a legal persepctive saying it's for "entertainment purposes:.
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I think it's just to cover their butts from a legal persepctive saying it's for "entertainment purposes:.
Perhaps you're right. Interesting choice of words nonetheless.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:24 PM   #18
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Don't fall for the negativity, folks.
We should fall for the positivity, maybe?

The future belongs to those who are willing to die to see it come. At one time it was the revolutionaries in the US breaking away from Britain. Now it's billions of people in rags and rage.

And Americans, who don't consider anything worth dying for, will die for nothing.
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I have been a subscriber to HPH for a long time. A lot of the information in the reports is not necessarily relevant to what is coming up in the immediate future and what IS relevant, Cliff makes sure that George posts that FOR FREE on his website. Cliff is an ex-Microsoft guy and has a very enlightened outlook on life and doing the right thing. He has said many times that he will always make sure the important information, for mankind, is made available to everyone. Something about not wanting to a karmic debt! Cut him some slack!
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Old 09-29-2008, 05:49 PM   #20
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George Ure didn't mention HPH, but today he did mention 'camping for life'

http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm
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Is the failure of the bailout bill the catalyst of the events?
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:59 PM   #22
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Could you (or anyone who gets them) paste the subscription report here in the forum? I would love to read it!

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I sure am interested in reading it too! Yikes.
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I would be interested to know why they are saying this and if they have a time frame. I already have my own lists. What is the threat?
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:56 PM   #24
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take a deep breath. sept. 28th webbot reports ,"get ready to go camping for life".
Hmm, not sure what to make of this except "run for the hills!" Of course I am a little bit skeptical, but really we won't know anything for the next couple weeks. What other info in the report did it state?
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take a deep breath. sept. 28th webbot reports ,"get ready to go camping for life". then they proceed to provide you with a long list of what you need. i will keep close tabs on the daily report for the next 10 days. oh yea, and if there are aliens they're probably not comming here to sing "cum bye ya".

Well, i believe in Webbot because it is the most LOGICAL, and perfect system ever built. It generates things in a unique way that already exist on this planet. Not no psychic assumption, or some unknown philosophy that a dumb human would come up with. It is not like a human being, which can act and tell you lies, manipulating you for your money.

I think we all here should take Webbot more seriously, rather than some fake prophets who spew out propaganda! We dont know who the hell is telling the truth nowadays, but you will know for damn sure that Webbot will at LEAST give you an honest statistical view of what lies ahead.

Of all the reading i have done, my intuition has been telling me to stock up on guns, guns, and more guns! No food, medicine or water! The powers are preparing me mentally, that this new war is not about love and peace, but about pure aggression to survive!
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