Barry King British Whistleblower testimony

[Jacqui D]

There seem to be so many sceptics on this site which although to some makes sense i guess but considering the information which is shown on the Camelot site still astounds me.

Why do people still have this problem believing all this stuff, okay call me "one of those that believes absolutely everything" well that i'm not but i do believe in giving people the chance to say their piece without being put down because it seems too off the wall for some.

About the humming mentioned earlier, there has been many articles lately printed in news papers about apparent humming noises coming from underground.
One lady in Welling Kent, England has been at her wits end she puts it.With a humming noise that she feels she can not live in her home no longer.
She is not near any pylons or any other type of electronic devises and yet continual humming carries on daily and nightly causing the family to feel quite ill with the continuous annoyance.
One workman could not even enter her home because he said the noise was so bad it hurt his ears.
What's causing it well know one knows they have had various people down to investigate but nothing has been found.
The lady in question said;
"If i didn't know better i would say a ufo was above the house, the only explaination of a noise with no reason."

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

There seem to be so many sceptics on this site which although to some makes sense i guess but considering the information which is shown on the Camelot site still astounds me.

Why do people still have this problem believing all this stuff, okay call me "one of those that believes absolutely everything" well that i'm not but i do believe in giving people the chance to say their piece without being put down because it seems too off the wall for some.

About the humming mentioned earlier, there has been many articles lately printed in news papers about apparent humming noises coming from underground.
One lady in Welling Kent, England has been at her wits end she puts it.With a humming noise that she feels she can not live in her home no longer.
She is not near any pylons or any other type of electronic devises and yet continual humming carries on daily and nightly causing the family to feel quite ill with the continuous annoyance.
One workman could not even enter her home because he said the noise was so bad it hurt his ears.
What's causing it well know one knows they have had various people down to investigate but nothing has been found.
The lady in question said;
"If i didn't know better i would say a ufo was above the house, the only explaination of a noise with no reason."

Constructive criticism and a barrage of questions is perfectly acceptable, its the hard nosed would not believe if one hit me in the face types that annoy me LOL




THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Antaletriangle

I'm unsure whether or not you may be familiar with Lt.col.Sc. Watcher-he guested on the edge radio in january of this year and he does tend to 'rant' a little concerning christianity and so forth but he's similar to yourself in having witnessed reptile races but beneath the Brecon beacons-i sent the link to linn earlier last week.On the link provided, (if you're interested in the interview that is) scrolll down to Lt.col. sc at Jan.19th 2008.He reiterates the reptilian presences toward the end of the interview (if i remember correctly).
Lt. Colonel SC will be talking about inside information regarding the alien agenda, illuminati connection, abductions and the pending attack on earth. The Lt. says the Stephenville mile long UFO is the real deal and it came from under the ocean. He is knowledgeable in many things and has first hand experience on information brought out in last weeks show with Barbara Brown. Listen to that interview as a primer to this upcoming interview.
http://www.theedgeam.com/guests/pastguest21.htm

Love the Kate Bush piccie.. I have listened to part of that but will listen to all before i make any comment


Regards

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[the sceptic]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

that is a fair comment. Have you studied the others? such as Duncan for example, and what of John Lear? or is his name simply big enough to accept his every word because he is THE John Lear?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

Sorry, I`m not digging you out, all I`m saying is that I want to see concrete evidence, and, that applies to everyone. Don`t care where they are from and who they are, to quote Bob Geldof "show me the money".

[Love/Light 13]

Just use your disinfo radar and all will work itself out...................

L/L 13

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may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Love/Light 13

Just use your disinfo radar and all will work itself out...................

L/L 13

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may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

There you go


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[utopiated]

Hi Watcher

We've spoken before a year or more back if you are who I think.

At the time I'd ordered Greer's latest book as it had just come out. I discussed with you the fact that Steve Greer has always maintained that

"We have been producing PLFs since the 1940s"

and he's pointed to your D.P. statement on a few occasions to back this up. Thus the point I made [which few ppl seem to realise] is that it's possible a large degree of S.G.'s notion that all 'grey' abductions are MILAB and ARV based has been made from what you've said. He may well have other [USA related] evidence on top - I don't know.

Greer has softened his former strict associated of "all abductions being MILABs" recently.

You've said you're waiting to be helped to initiate your testimony into a wider scheme of things - but how is anyone going to do this? You mentioned to me that a legal firm had images and/or documents that would help this process? If this is the case - would this not be a useful start to get some backing for your claims?

I have no doubt there are DUMBS on the UK mainland. Read "Left at Eastgate" for one example. I just can't understand why the UK never gets more whistle-blowers on these type issues. We need a Phil Schneider type character to discuss the building of these things over here - that would be a start and would give us something to work with. At the moment - it seems a locked-down issue.

[carcharodon]

Interesting - gray aliens with round eyes just like in Miriam Delicado's interview. How were these engineered beings programmed? Also by sitting in a chair (no elaboration on the interface technology), or genetically? If interfaced, I wonder how did they overcome brain's need for information reinforcement and subsequential learning degradation. If genetically, this means military tech is ahead of publicly available technology by 3+ decades (usually it's less than 10 years). You guys remember it took scientists around the world a nr of years to map human genome. Not so sure about Canadian government involvement, where would that amount of money come from in a country with a relatively small population. Oh yeah, Barry's eyes movements in the video indicate he had to be creative about some of his responses.

[Steve_A]

Hi carcharodon,

I have to say I'm ashamed of the British Intelligence Service and Her Majestys' Armed Forces to allow a 'security guard' roam around a top secret facility with not even four months experience on the job!

They'll be hiring TOPS scheme employees next!

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by carcharodon

Interesting - gray aliens with round eyes just like in Miriam Delicado's interview. How were these engineered beings programmed? Also by sitting in a chair (no elaboration on the interface technology), or genetically? If interfaced, I wonder how did they overcome brain's need for information reinforcement and subsequential learning degradation. If genetically, this means military tech is ahead of publicly available technology by 3+ decades (usually it's less than 10 years). You guys remember it took scientists around the world a nr of years to map human genome. Not so sure about Canadian government involvement, where would that amount of money come from in a country with a relatively small population. Oh yeah, Barry's eyes movements in the video indicate he had to be creative about some of his responses.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi carcharodon,

I have to say I'm ashamed of the British Intelligence Service and Her Majestys' Armed Forces to allow a 'security guard' roam around a top secret facility with not even four months experience on the job!

They'll be hiring TOPS scheme employees next!

Best regards,

Steve

Well Steve, you obviously DO NOT have the whole story as being hired into that facility was from a very long process and i was known to them already, so NOT a complete newcomer. Do not beat about the bush say things straight out TO ME please without the sarcasm OK? Not as you perceive 'security guards', damn sight more went into the training, indoctrination than you might think. Shame on you for uneducated sarcasm.
Hiring TOPS scheme next?? get a sense man

THE WATCHEr AKA BMK

And whats all this about eye movements? Have you studied other testimony films re others? watch Lear, Schneider, Cooper, Duncan, et al, watch their eyes!!

[utopiated]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Well Steve, you obviously DO NOT have the whole story as being hired into that facility was from a very long process and i was known to them already, so NOT a complete newcomer.

Shame on you for uneducated sarcasm.
Hiring TOPS scheme next?? get a sense man[/B]

And whats all this about eye movements? Have you studied other testimony films re others? watch Lear, Schneider, Cooper, Duncan, et al, watch their eyes!![/B]

I don't even know what a TOPS scheme is!

Thing is Watcher - you can't blame people for resorting to that sort of thing. I don't like cynical debunking of testimony - no matter HOW way out - but people want a few basics to go on.

Anyway - hope you're better now health wise - I got an email from someone a few weeks back saying you were not well.

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PM me if you want to say anything off forum.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by utopiated

I don't even know what a TOPS scheme is!

Thing is Watcher - you can't blame people for resorting to that sort of thing. I don't like cynical debunking of testimony - no matter HOW way out - but people want a few basics to go on.

Anyway - hope you're better now health wise - I got an email from someone a few weeks back saying you were not well.

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PM me if you want to say anything off forum.

Skepticism yes debunking no

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

BTW, please ask for proof when you next see Lear, Duncan, or any of the others

[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

Are you suggesting that "Lear, Duncan, or any of the others" have been economical with the truth?

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Skepticism yes debunking no

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

BTW, please ask for proof when you next see Lear, Duncan, or any of the others

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi THEWATCHER,

Are you suggesting that "Lear, Duncan, or any of the others" have been economical with the truth?

Best regards,

Steve

NOT AT ALL, merely asking, as you have asked me, where is their proof?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

I can't vouch for everybody, but in the case of John Lear, he cites names and co-witnesses, is not ashamed to show off photographs, nor is he reserved about showing documents. Check out the videos on Project Camelot.

As I said in some posts earlier and you actually agreed with me, that one cannot accept everthing to be the truth, however, that which has been proven by another witness, with potographic evidence or documentational evidence needs to be at least accepted.

I think your videos on Youtube could have used the moment to show this sort of evidence.

The two I watched were of a guy in a field and a series of designs telling us to wait....

I'm sure that one doesn't need to be Einstein to do the math.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

NOT AT ALL, merely asking, as you have asked me, where is their proof?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[swordsmith]

Guess you gotta be dead like Phil Schneider for some people to get their final proof then...so much more convincing.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by swordsmith

Guess you gotta be dead like Phil Schneider for some people to get their final proof then...so much more convincing.

seems so, and been close to that situation

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[utopiated]

Originally Posted by swordsmith

Guess you gotta be dead like Phil Schneider for some people to get their final proof then...so much more convincing.

That's a pointless, throwaway comment and misses the point I was making.

Like many people in this area - Phil Schneider only started getting more attention after his death. It's sad and stupid that it's got to this stage. However as I said, Schneider had a lot of material to back his claims in the few years he braved the lecture circuits in the USA.


<EDIT> - How does someone get 550 posts on a forum that's been running a few weeks???!

[Soul Sequence]

I'm sorry, but I need to add my 2 cents for what its worth. One, I just want to personally thank Mr. King for coming on this forum and sharing with us his experiences. What I dont understand is what's happened to most people on here and how easily we forget the mistakes of the past. For those of you that have been here for awhile may remember a couple of other "whistleblowers" that came here to share with us, these even were welcomed by Bill and Kerry. What did we do?....I was embarrassed as comments started flying at these guys and sure enough, they'd be done with it. Now come on, there's absolutely no reason to act like children here, we're all pretty much adults and we're here for a reason. I suggest we start to show a little respect rather than represent Bill and Kerry the way that we have been. Its not that hard to show a little respect. All we have to do is listen to the testimony being presented, then based on what was presented, genuinely ask questions on the information provided. If something you find elsewhere that wasnt presented by the whistleblower, respectfully ask on its merit. All that's happening here is rude behaviour and are disrespecting Mr.King. I'm not going to single out anyone as that's not my point, but as members and moderators of Avalon, lets not lose another excellent source from someone that's come forward.

Thanks for listening and I only wish all good will and best wishes,
Regards and Blessings,
Soul Sequence

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi THEWATCHER,

I can't vouch for everybody, but in the case of John Lear, he cites names and co-witnesses, is not ashamed to show off photographs, nor is he reserved about showing documents. Check out the videos on Project Camelot.

As I said in some posts earlier and you actually agreed with me, that one cannot accept everthing to be the truth, however, that which has been proven by another witness, with potographic evidence or documentational evidence needs to be at least accepted.

I think your videos on Youtube could have used the moment to show this sort of evidence.

The two I watched were of a guy in a field and a series of designs telling us to wait....

I'm sure that one doesn't need to be Einstein to do the math.

Best regards,

Steve

And perhaps you should not judge by a 9 or 10 minute edited videoclip either. These are from interviews which give much more data. I have named names, locations, agencies, project names and personnel, staff etc etc etc within the files themselves. From the guy whom was in charge to head of security and much more. Naming other individuals whom were involved too such as the guy whom was in charge of Porton Down at the time.So i did release much in the way of such data if you had this material to hand you would see. The trouble is here, people are making assumptions on seeing such a tiny piece of the testimony, which were all done ad hoc, spur of moment, arranged hastily by Miles Johnston from Sky TV. The original Bases 1 taped interview ran for 4 hours and was edited down to 3, then further edited to its state now of whatever length.


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[utopiated]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Miles Johnston from Sky TV. The original Bases 1 taped interview ran for 4 hours and was edited down to 3, then further edited to its state now of whatever length.[/B]

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

I have asked, many moons back, Miles for the full Bases DVD/video. I spoke to him for 2 hours one night - still have the audio somewhere.

Nothing ever came of it.

I *do* however have the documents - which is I presume what is being referred to. I can't recall seeing names of 4 other officers in that though. I'll have another look through.

For all those ppl having a go at Steve - you have to understand that it works both ways. There is nothing wrong with trying to build more evidence for a claim. This field has it's share of delusions and deluded people - I have no idea if BK is one - but this is the case.

I find it mad I'm making this sort of statement - I'm usually fighting the debunkers off!!
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[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

I can only come to my conclusions with the information I receive. Right? I watched the video and the guy on it said he was hired as a security officer during four months in the late seventies I think and then another four mmonths a few years later. It's not what I said.

As for the training, I must confess, I know absolutely nothing about being a security official and their speacial training needs. You could enlighten me instead of attacking....

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Well Steve, you obviously DO NOT have the whole story as being hired into that facility was from a very long process and i was known to them already, so NOT a complete newcomer. Do not beat about the bush say things straight out TO ME please without the sarcasm OK? Not as you perceive 'security guards', damn sight more went into the training, indoctrination than you might think. Shame on you for uneducated sarcasm.
Hiring TOPS scheme next?? get a sense man

THE WATCHEr AKA BMK

And whats all this about eye movements? Have you studied other testimony films re others? watch Lear, Schneider, Cooper, Duncan, et al, watch their eyes!!

[utopiated]

Originally Posted by carcharodon

Oh yeah, Barry's eyes movements in the video indicate he had to be creative about some of his responses.

Well that's the stage we're at with BK's testimony and why I'm sure we *could* get some significant support going if we could have a bit more to go on from his side. Until then - as you suggest - we're left with using basic NLP/psychology stuff to see if he's

1. Telling the truth
2. Thinks it's the truth but it's someone else's agenda
3. Fibbing to the nth degree.

Anyone tried that backward's masking stuff on his speech??

I've also previously suggested that there must be links from BK to other security guards who could come out and back his claim as having worked at 'AL659'.

Barry's response to asking for even basic evidence is that you don't get to come away with evidence from black-project employment. Which is true. But there's always ways and means. Phil Schneider had little material evidence but I researched his case in depth years ago and came to the conclusion that 90% of his story is real. I even spoke to his wife about the autopsy report - once you hear what went on with that - you know Schneider was murdered.... it was blatant.

[Steve_A]

Hi utopiated,

Well you suprise me. Didn't you get the technical jargon used by the testemony. They called the smaller ETs 'the Tiddlers'.

What more proof do you want?

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by utopiated

Well that's the stage we're at with BK's testimony and why I'm sure we *could* get some significant support going if we could have a bit more to go on from his side. Until then - as you suggest - we're left with using basic NLP/psychology stuff to see if he's

1. Telling the truth
2. Thinks it's the truth but it's someone else's agenda
3. Fibbing to the nth degree.

Anyone tried that backward's masking stuff on his speech??

I've also previously suggested that there must be links from BK to other security guards who could come out and back his claim as having worked at 'AL659'.

Barry's response to asking for even basic evidence is that you don't get to come away with evidence from black-project employment. Which is true. But there's always ways and means. Phil Schneider had little material evidence but I researched his case in depth years ago and came to the conclusion that 90% of his story is real. I even spoke to his wife about the autopsy report - once you hear what went on with that - you know Schneider was murdered.... it was blatant.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi utopiated,

Well you suprise me. Didn't you get the technical jargon used by the testemony. They called the smaller ETs 'the Tiddlers'.

What more proof do you want?

Best regards,

Steve

Yes that was a term we 4 UK officers used, have a problem with that Steve? I suggest you refrain from the childish sarcasm or be reported for your obvious bias and lack of courtesey. Even a Mod should have qualities relevent to the task. Or did Bill and Kerry just let those Mods pick the job themselves? No wonder others would not bother to disclose on such forums, look at the reception they get.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK