Why you shouldn't leave Avalon!

[Dean Plejaren]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I choose to stay. You choose to go. However, I see you're still here Namaste, my friend.

Not correct for you because you are blind about what it takes to co-operate with people and work together to create something against the establishment.

Yeah I will go thank you for the Namaste. One in sound mind is going against the current to exist on the forum. That's why people want to leave.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren

Not correct for you because you are blind about what it takes to co-operate with people and work together to create something against the establishment.

Yeah I will go thank you for the Namaste. One in sound mind is going against the current to exist on the forum. That's why people want to leave.

I tend to get angry, as many have seen on this forum, when people disrespect me on the basis that I am ignorant, or as you say 'blind'. However, I have learned my lesson and will hold back such negative emotions.

I have some advice for you. There is no working against the establishment in respect to revolution. They are organized and focused, we are not. It is ironic because it should be the other way around, as they are service to self, and us to others. For a great deal of time I have been alone in my quest, having my friends and family consistently try to deter me from my beliefs, and bring me back into their so called reality. I became a fear mongerer and tried to lecture them over and over again. It got me no where.

I tried to make a difference in the world, tried to wake up people to what was really happening so we could 'bring down the establishment'. I have realized this is not how things are going to come to fruition. Instead, I am going to focus on the spiritual side of myself, while being supportive of my community, my family, my friends, my home My home is Maine, and it always will be. These people are my family. Not the white house, not the United States, or Wall Street. It is here. I am not going to bring anyone down. I am going bring people up. That is my purpose, as it should be for most of us.

[GregorArturo]

Also, the negativity on this forum is being quite the catalyst for this beautiful and enlightening conversation. Remember that. It's all connected and has a purpose.

[Dean Plejaren]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I tend to get angry, as many have seen on this forum, when people disrespect me on the basis that I am ignorant, or as you say 'blind'. However, I have learned my lesson and will hold back such negative emotions.

I have some advice for you. There is no working against the establishment in respect to revolution. They are organized and focused, we are not. It is ironic because it should be the other way around, as they are service to self, and us to others. For a great deal of time I have been alone in my quest, having my friends and family consistently try to deter me from my beliefs, and bring me back into their so called reality. I became a fear mongerer and tried to lecture them over and over again. It got me no where.

I tried to make a difference in the world, tried to wake up people to what was really happening so we could 'bring down the establishment'. I have realized this is not how things are going to come to fruition. Instead, I am going to focus on the spiritual side of myself, while being supportive of my community, my family, my friends, my home My home is Maine, and it always will be. These people are my family. Not the white house, not the United States, or Wall Street. It is here. I am not going to bring anyone down. I am going bring people up. That is my purpose, as it should be for most of us.

Why are we not focused greg? Why are they organized and we are not? Did you ever think about it? Or did you just stop trying because you couldn't do it all by yourself? I said you are not getting it because escaping into your own spiritual 'growth' rather than working to heal the planet is actually escaping from the need to face a feeling of being powerless. Do you really think you are going to get more powerful by avoiding and decieving yourself about it? No end of story.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren

Why are we not focused greg? Why are they organized and we are not? Did you ever think about it? Or did you just stop trying because you couldn't do it all by yourself? I said you are not getting it because escaping into your own spiritual 'growth' rather than working to heal the planet is actually escaping from the need to face a feeling of being powerless. Do you really think you are going to get more powerful by avoiding and decieving yourself about it? No end of story.

You drastically underestimate me my friend. I have an interview with a TV producer tomorrow to be on a local program that would focus a half hour show on just me! They will interview me about what I do which is a pretty broad topic, but focuses on philosophy, metaphysics, cosmology, mathematics, and physics. The assistant producer is pretty confident that they're gonna have me on the show, as she was rather impressed with me on the phone and is on board with most of my concepts.

Two, I am awaiting for administration approval to host a lecture at my campus on my work with a focus on the universal truths of reality called "The Logic of Beauty". I am already backed by some of the facility on campus, include a professor who has a PhD in archeology and is internationally recognized for his work, and well known in the field, as some of my discussion will revolve around Atlantis and the ancients. The auditorium this is in can host a thousand people and many people in my community are intrigued about this event. I am expecting at least 200 people, hopefully much more. I'm not some kid who types on Avalon all day, reads, and meditates. There's much more to me than meets the eye. You think I can write, you should hear me speak!

My story is just starting to take off, how about yours?

[Allie]

Thank you for that, Circlewerk

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren

Not correct for you because you are blind about what it takes to co-operate with people and work together to create something against the establishment.

Yeah I will go thank you for the Namaste. One in sound mind is going against the current to exist on the forum. That's why people want to leave.

" I'm leaving I'm leaving I'm leaving watch me go now look at me while I'm leaving, HEY PAY ATTENTION I'M GOING NOW GOD DAMN IT "


Shut-up already and just go.

[Dean Plejaren]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

" I'm leaving I'm leaving I'm leaving watch me go now look at me while I'm leaving, HEY PAY ATTENTION I'M GOING NOW GOD DAMN IT "


Shut-up already and just go.

I did mention I'm not staying forever I didn't say the exact date and time I would go.

I let it eat away at you first.....

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by dean plejaren

i did mention i'm not staying forever i didn't say the exact date and time i would go.

I let it eat away at you first.....

o'brother give me a break.

[Reunite]

Avalon is an expression of great wonder and insightfulness. A family who will be challenged and tested for many times ahead. Her members here have different levels of understanding and knowledge. The bigger picture can't always be seen to some, even inconspicuous to a Mod where occult symbolism conveys a brutal message in an election dress. Avalon has her reconciliation of differences. What matters is the journey her fellow participants experience and grow to equip towards their life's fulfillment. I will be staying to the bitter end until a subscription fee is introduced.

Just a gentle reminder to all shared through a insightful parent and comic:

"The world is like a ride at an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it, you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round and it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud. And it's fun, for a while.

Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: 'Is this real? Or is this just a ride?' And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and they say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid - ever - because... this is just a ride.' And we kill those people.

'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride! Shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry; look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real.'

It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that - ever notice that? - and we let the demons run amok. But it doesn't matter, because... it's just a ride, and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort. No worry. No job. No savings and money. Just a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy bigger guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one.

Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, into a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year and, instead, spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would do many times over - not one human being excluded - and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever. In peace".

Bill Hicks

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by Peer

Thanks Greg for this thread.

There are positive posts and there are negative posts and you can tell their nature by the words.
It is clear to see who brings in positive vibrations and who brings in the negative vibes.

For instance: Dragonbreath, how would you value your own posts? Positive or negative?
Meant to build up or to break down?









Man I am getting so tired of having to talk as to little children.

Good one peer, can you say read the fine print! HaHa

[Peer]

Originally Posted by dragonbreath1

defo not positive now - i am agreeing that avalon is a misguided rachet job so agreeing with the negative defo and being negative .. but because there needs to be a shift and the doomsayers need to know that they are the ones bringing this energy here .. so i am giving them a little dose of their own stuff - deliberately

i believe that we need to take personal responsiblity and to look at ourselves and exercise our true power - be the change we want to see as ghandi says.

it means we cant just sit back and whinge about death and doom and lack of control - it means we have to take our power back but to do that we have to connect to who we really are .. in the full dimensional sense.

i am being negative here but to prove a point

If you don't want it to grow don't feed it.

It's like walking in a too crowded meadow and instead of walking on the free pieces of grass it's like stepping from one cowdung into another.

Please let your dragonbreath be whitehot and cleansing instead of gloomy darkred and smokey.

people dramatize everywhere because they are hugely conditioned by their own polarized ways of thinking, and living. bleeeargg positive, bleeearg negative.

They are extremists in a degree in wich, if things don´t go the way they expect, they leave.

But if we want to work together, that polarization should cease to exist. You have to become balanced and neutral. Open to discuss things and open to listen to others views. You have to become diplomatic. THAT is of utmost importance.

You have to keep yourself beyond good and evil.

You have to integrate your nature into your reality, a good way of being caring and loving towards others rather than childish and reproaching all the time as it is being seen here.

that´s why mostly, humans will fail again and again, they can´t step back and become less emotionally and side oriented, involved in things like this for them to be able to think properly how to act.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by dragonbreath1

that is absolutely correct .. however, i note that many on this forum need a little burn .. including the mods .. which is why i am going to get banned for being umm lets say provocative ..

you know in all seriousness this forum is causing the darkness to grow by focusing on the problems and allowing fear a free lunch and dinner .. and damn it to grow big style.

this is because the forum has evolved into a free for all with many panicking and causing darkness to grow instead of empowering people with the knowledge to change and become who they are..

and as i have stated - the mods reward the doomers .. because the mods think like that ..

and as a result this forum is not a positive force ..and those who are positive and empowers have their voices drowned out.

i know you speak the truth .. i have also read what you write .. and it is true.

but this forum in general is not the truth and it is a destructive force of fear in a world that needs to be empowered and aware and egalitarian ..

that is my true opinion

Well, dragon breath, do what I do, and probably most of us engaged in this conversation right now. Focus on the positive threads, even if the negative threads out number them. Look at all the threads I started today, and they have all gone in a very positive direction including this one. I find our current exchange to be positive and productive at the moment, even though it may not of initially. You are a good-hearted individual; I see that very easily in you. There are days I log into Avalon and rarely post due to the overwhelming negativity. However, I realized if that's the case, one should bring positivity and hope to the table. Just like when I hit the streets in downtown. It's full of negativity, but in two minutes of conversation, I can dramatically change someones day for the better. Same as here.

[dragonbreath1]

actually greg you are one of the posters who i find write amazing stuff - i love to read about your ideas, actually they are very in tune with the way i feel.

but i am mad with this forum for feeding darkness .. when it has such an opportunity to do the opposite

[norman]

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[dragonbreath1]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

If it was not for the negative forces in this world, we would not learn at the remarkable pace in which we do. Remember that. A negative entity may indeed test your patience, and can even cause harm to you, but in the long run, it is you who learn from that entity. Knowledge is the goal, not happiness. Pursuit of happiness is the American philosophy ingrained subliminally into all our lives. Just look at the monumental power and size of the entertainment industry.

HAPPINESS IS A BYPRODUCT OF KNOWLEDGE
not vice versa...

agreed gregor but this forum encourages the posters that are all about ' oh my god i have a cold i must have been poisioned by the govt ' threads .. written in ignorance and fear or we are all going to die ..

anyone who offers solutiions is banned .. which is why the positive people are leaving

[JesterTerrestrial]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

Stay strong people. Do not ever EVER give up. We are truth.

That says it all