david wilcock

[ABHA]

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

since this has kinda slid into a meat eating thread i think ill post about me being mainly vegan(apart from accepting dairy food gifts/meals when visiting friends). i wondered about the possible feminising effects of soya?? its a complete protein and therefore it is not essential to eat animals but i sometimes think about what the effects of soya are.. been veggie since 2000 ... not been ill or had a cold ect since as long as i can remember early 2005 last i recall.. i will eat an animal if it gets rough and i have to kill it to eat it.. but i will not eat an animal i have no killed an butchered myself.. oh and i like some of wilcocks stuff.. sounds like he will be taking the chip and eating gmo ectect(obama supporter) he obv has other concerns

If your cautious about soya Pineal-pilot, here's a some reasons why you intuitively suspect it...

WWWHHHOOOOPPPSSS!! LOL, Here's the link:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...ainst-soy.aspx

[Jenny]

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/announcement.php?f=2


A friendly reminder.

[777 The Great Work]

The first thing that takes place on the path to truth is to be able to seperate truth from error by using our intuiton. All info should be questioned. Its the light and not the light bearer thats important. Man has looked to other men long enough for answers and always end up feeling betrayed

[lightwalker]

My 2 cents about food. and David

As we are expanding our consciousness..... So too will the reflections around us expand and in my opinion that includes the food we eat. It is about frequency and you can change the frequency of the food you eat by intention, prayer, gratitude...whatever is your way of doing it. If you feel your food has a "problem" so to speak then clear it.

David has a grand confidence in himself.without any ego (IMO) and if one is insecure in themselves it can come across as him having a big head or arrogant.
He is still learning much, just watch him in this next year as he expands and mirrors back to us that wonderful brightness that he has.

lightwalker

[lilac]

Blood type diet - look into it. My body does not take well to meat because I am A+. If you are type O, you should eat at least some meat and avoid sugar. I haven't eaten meat for many years, but I make no judgments on those who do. Walk a mile in my shoes

[Circlewerk]

I spent 11 years as a vegan.
That was 11 years ago.

The ability to detach from labels and beliefs has given me enormous energy.
The energy is as a result of letting go of a desire to be right and the idea that I have to do something in order to become something greater.

I arrived at psychological detachment and the profundity this state allows, through experiencing the contrast of it for a long enough period of time, that all of it, the "this vs.that" mind, became the biggest thing thwarting my ability to feel good, unconditionally.

I have found that appreciating contrast, and not attaching to any of it as truth, has proved most beneficial when it comes to co-existing.

[Elephant Man]

ok the thread started with DW. I'm no fan, but judging him for what he eats is judging everyone for what they eat. Eskimos eat raw seal, if they didnt they would have died out aeons ago, not a lot of fruit n veg on greenland. I eat meat and am grateful for my food, I have no probs with vegetarians. I have tried it myself for a year, it didnt do me any good. I feel that judging people for what they eat, drink, smoke or whatever is an attack on a lot of people in here. no-one is perfect and no-one HAS to be. I cut a worm in half today digging a plant up, I said sorry and continued my work grateful for that worm, all the other worms, the insects, the beetles and everything other creature that contributes to paying my wages as a gardener. I had venison for dinner tonight and I was grateful.

[eaglespirit]

WE DO NOT DO POINTING HERE! GET IT?!

"I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!"

Make a point but do not point!

Be a vegetarian...be good and be!

BUT stop demeaning Others here at this forum!

THAT is what is wrong...simply live right from your own heart and ALL will change to "heart" living around you and begin to spread to your family and your friends and your community and your town and your county and your state and your country and the world...ALL of Mother Earth will join in!

But YOU have to be concerned with YOU first and foremost!

STOP demeaning others...make a point...but STOP pointing!

I Love You! I Love You All!

[franciejones]

I agree with GregorArturo 100%

Also, I think it is important to respect the opinion of the threadstarter. It is important that we do not "attack" people for stating their viewpoint.

It might help some if before you reply to a thread-

Check your motives
Step outside of yourself first..some replies turn into arguments that are not always needed

This is just my opinion of course...

[ABHA]

BTW if you ever saw the experiments done in the 70's by a botenist about the "witness plants" we would be left eating nothing at all. And don't come back and tell me about fruit, fruit contains the babies of other plants, everything including stones has consciousness, who is anyone to say that an apple might not want the experience of being eaten?[/QUOTE]

True! well said.. the secret life of plants.

[isotelesis]

In terms of diet, it should be tailored to the individual, not one solution works across the board. People's bodies react to food differently. In general you should eat for your health, not your "vibration", ultimately you'll send out better vibes if you live healthy. Some do not need meat at all, good for them, that doesn't make them more spiritual, although eating less meat and more vegetables is healthier. Hitler didn't smoke and was a vegetarian, apparently he lived into his 90s. It is about moderation and respecting animals, the way meat is produced these days is somewhat disturbing, but it is a convenient and efficient source of protein. Turkey is a good compromise, ostrich makes good burgers, salmon every once in a while, I tend to avoid animals with more complex nervous systems, although it depends on the circumstance, even how and why it was killed, buffalo can be a sacred food source to those in certain ecosystems, if time went backward, the animal would thank you for killing it so it could have life, unfortunately many do not respect them in death or life.

[taomation]

Personally, I don't trust supposedly spiritual people who talk about compassion and then eat meat. Even if someone thinks they function better on it, it is still a question as to wether you are going to torment and kill an innocent being for your own selfishness or not. Are you being compassionate or not? Do you choose their happiness and well being or your own? And if you choose your own over theirs, then you are probably not all that enlightened.

I also agree that David Wilcox "seems" like he has a very large ego.

But like everyone else on this planet, he's doing the best that he can. Peace...Tao

[KassandraLoves]

I think if we are going to have a conversation about " To EAT or NOT to EAT MEAT" Then we should be FAIR by leaving individuals out of it. David Wilcock's just a dude. And Im just some chick. And were all just dudes and chicks that eat what we want or feel we need.

This thread should be split up into two: One about agreeing/disgreeing with David, and another about agreeing/disagreeing with Meat eaters and your opinions about animal slaughter and whatnot....

Theres WAY too much behind the whole vegetarianism thing to all be centered on just dome dude. I think we'd be more constructive with our line of thought here if we seperated the two.

....Just sayin'....

[Anchor]

(non-moderator posting)

Originally Posted by sunshineseastar

mr. david wilcock pretends to have it all figured out....... i was a bg fan of his work. but now and i quote " Although I was vegan / vegetarian for seven years I do now use animal protein — predominantly because I work so much and run my body so hard that I rapidly get weak without it." and this brother has traded fruit for animals..

David Wilcock never set himself up as an example to be followed. I think he would find it strange that as soon as he does something that doesn't vibe with what people imagined his "rules" were that he has somehow betrayed himself, and fallen to the dark side. I think that it is a bit mixed up to say anything like that of a man who basically as STO as they come.

It seems to me that if you have projected some image of how you think that things are onto him, and now he has betrayed that image, he has done you a service as well. The catalyst is now presented to you to work though that part of the illusion in our consensus reality game.

My understanding is that whilst it is absolutely necessary to be a vegetarian at some point along your spiritual path; the main time when it is worth being a vegetarian are those times when you are re-building your body out of finer, high vibration material.

Once you are past that point you can eat what you like. Even low vibe stuff will be transmuted into higher vibration material just by being consumed by one who has attained such a point of evolution. Note: I do not mean to definitively imply that I think David has or has not reached that point. Personally I do think he may well have, but that is just my opinion based on what I read and how I see him behave. I base my opinion on the fact that if he had not, then its strange choice to make for someone in touch with Ra

I also believe that at a higher level, animals don't mind being eaten by higher beings and that it is a spiritually significant sacrifice of immense evolutionary benefit to them. If it were otherwise then you would be forced to think that this whole food-chain idea was some huge spiritual mistake here on Earth. Do you think that ?

Fruit is to be eaten so that its seeds can be spread in a free supply of manure, a harmonious act., and I am sure the Apple 'oversoul' enjoys itself being eaten and thus transmuted in harmony. Same for everything up the food chain.

I won't deny that our food-chain is currently badly distorted - especially in the cruel way that many humans deal with animals for food. It is a double whammy for low vibrations content[1].

Do you argue also that the native American Indians, some of the most spiritually advanced beings you can read about in recent history, were wrong in hunting and eating buffalo?

A..
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Footnote
[1] Incidentally this is why you should consider blessing all your food before you eat it! Use your intent and allow the immense powers of the cosmos to wash away/transmute the vibrations in the food stuff you eat, to make them fit for the intended purpose. The blessing I use is: "Lord, thank you for this food. Please bless it and purify it for its intended purpose". Other blessings are available at a heart shaped store near you.
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[sunshineseastar]

Originally Posted by taomation

Personally, I don't trust supposedly spiritual people who talk about compassion and then eat meat. Even if someone thinks they function better on it, it is still a question as to wether you are going to torment and kill an innocent being for your own selfishness or not. Are you being compassionate or not? Do you choose their happiness and well being or your own? And if you choose your own over theirs, then you are probably not all that enlightened.

I also agree that David Wilcox "seems" like he has a very large ego.

Peace...Tao

this says it beautifuly........thanks......i´m not tryin to bash the dude......just point this out......and i feel people SHOULD walk their talk......it´s so easy for anyone to bla bla bla lip service to make it into the spot light i guess....and the dude says he can hardly make ends meet......maybe he should get a clue while he´s on his big fat cruise and think for one minute about all the starving people in the world as he sits down at the dinner table.....lol..

oh and don´t compair wilcock with the native americans.....again it´s like compairin apples and oranges....lol

[Josef Stubler]

Hi Sunshineseaster,

Quick question ---- do you carry a leather wallet and wear leather shoes? Because if you do --- you might want to hold back on the whole eating meat issue until you clear up that little inconsistency ....

[sunshineseastar]

Originally Posted by Josef Stubler

Hi Sunshineseaster,

Quick question ---- do you carry a leather wallet and wear leather shoes? Because if you do --- you might want to hold back on the whole eating meat issue until you clear up that little inconsistency ....

no, and by the way i get all my stuff from the second hand shop....nice try though.......thanks for calling......

[Rebel4Life]

Originally Posted by Seeker Mom

David is a big supporter of Obama's. That bothers me a whole lot more than his eating meat to strengthen his body.

oh So he is a supporter of Obama? That makes me realize even more how much of a fake he is tnx for telling me know.

[sunshineseastar]

yep... that might be why he gives all or most of his info for free..... everyone knows that in politics it´s always two sides of the same coin.........lol

[jaby]

Originally Posted by Rebel4Life

oh So he is a supporter of Obama? That makes me realize even more how much of a fake he is tnx for telling me know.

Oh, really..........

Are you saying that everyone who supported Obama is a fake?
Everyone who voted for him?


Martin Luther King Jr. 'I HAVE A DREAM' speech......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4AItMg70kg (2:18)


Video about the assassination of Martin Luther King......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ivrjiQlewk8 (2:16)


President Elect...Barack Obama...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fYHYrKDNV50 (2:12)

[sunshineseastar]

Originally Posted by jaby

Oh, really..........

Are you saying that everyone who supported Obama is a fake?
Everyone who voted for him?


Martin Luther King Jr. 'I HAVE A DREAM' speech......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4AItMg70kg (2:18)


Video about the assassination of Martin Luther King......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ivrjiQlewk8 (2:16)


President Elect...Barack Obama...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fYHYrKDNV50 (2:12)

no i think what is being said is that if david was true he would not jump on any political band wagons because it´s not real...... they all work for the same side.....the side that wants you to be a sheep with your head down eyes and ears closed......gosh your trying to compair apples with oranges.......

[jaby]

Originally Posted by sunshineseastar

no i think what is being said is that if david was true he would not jump on any political band wagons because it´s not real...... they all work for the same side.....the side that wants you to be a sheep with your head down eyes and ears closed......gosh your trying to compair apples with oranges.......

Sooooooo you would rather no-one voted?

Are you suggesting that everyone who voted are SHEEP?

It's funny, but I thought your gripe with David was the meat thing but your remit seems to be expanding by the hour......

[sunshineseastar]

Originally Posted by jaby

Sooooooo you would rather no-one voted?

Are you suggesting that everyone who voted are SHEEP?

It's funny, but I thought your gripe with David was the meat thing but your remit seems to be expanding by the hour......

yes ....that is what i am suggesting......!!!!!! and my gripe with david is not just one reason.....there are several things that are off here......

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i quite like david wilcock as i quite like bill deagle.. both opposing ends of the spectrum so to speak.. i dont hang off their everyword, nor do i blindly take what enyone says for granted without at least a modicum of my own reasearch i shall look further into soya protein.. i mean if we all lived like native american peoples then id eat bufallo and bid the animal a safe passage into the spirit world as we took its life.. RESPECT however i cant justify eating meat.
1; factory farming
2;BGH about to be mandatory(codex sept 09)
3;poss cloned meat
4;karma(zero repsect for life due to factory methods)

[Orion Morris]

Jaby you are pushing buttons...
You said to drop in like 5 hours ago....
Follow your own advice.....

I proved you wrong when I you accused sunshine of being a divider....
When you were the first one to divide and you chose the opposite side and you are still there arguing....
You are making redundant points and just discrediting yourself... just drop it...... you obvously have a crush on Mr. Wilcock and that is fine.... but some people think different... nothing you can do about that