Are Chemtrails Real?

[Lt Ripley]

Hi guys,

For anyone in Melbourne, Australia: have a look outside, in particular the area around the CBD.

There are several chemtrail "clouds" hanging about which are slowly starting to clear.

[manda]

Originally Posted by Lt Ripley

Hi guys,

For anyone in Melbourne, Australia: have a look outside, in particular the area around the CBD.

There are several chemtrail "clouds" hanging about which are slowly starting to clear.

Hi
We Had a web of trails over Canberra This morning.
manda

[Hiram]

Concerning the Dark black line in front of Chemical sprayers....some kind of projecting field? Perhaps.

To be quite honest I believe it is an optical illusion. You are looking at a bright white line of chemtrail contrasted against a dark blue sky backround and you binocular vision has a hard time adjusting to the contrasting shades.

Its like looking at one of those black and white checkered eye illusion photos where at every white intersection you see dark spots...even though they are really pure white.




I know its not romantic...chemtrails ARE real.....just a thought about the dark line.

[atom.Man]

Originally Posted by unlimited mind

i am quite certain they are not persistent contrails. i have spent many days on top of 6000 ft peaks taking pictures and watching these planes race back and forth across the sky...

interesting read. ever see them at night? would also love to see video of a plane spraying a pattern (actually turning ~180 and continue to spray). i still linger on the question that they may be used to block sunlight, thus have an effect on the warming and subsequent cooling of the earth (which i believe has little to nothing to do with C02 -- other planets are warming as well according to what i've read).

if aerosol trails CAN be seen at night, especially in the early evening just after it gets dark, then i would tend to think they are not for effecting climate change, at least not as far as blocking sunlight.

[Orion Morris]

You can search on the internet and find government documents calling it "cloud seeding." They have admitted it in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, saying that it will increase precipitation during the winter seasons and make the tourist season longer. They have been "seeding" the couds for some time now. Of course I am sure that what ever they are seeding the couds with is not good, weather it be barium or whatever. I have heard of making organites or cloud busters.

[JSErwine]

Early june or so, there was a quick blurb about a report in Russia.

A report that a bag of "cement" fell from one of these planes and crashed through some persons house.

When the Russian governemnt was asked what this was they replied that they were trying to help the weather.

This was reported by Michael Reagan (I'm pretty sure) durring his daily propaganda show, it was the only report I heard.

If some one wanted to take the time to go back and listen to this guys archives I'm sure it's there. Again this took place end of May or early June.

As far as your Pic, some guy commented that these are some sort of ballast sytem used on the larger airliners.

/salute

Jeff

[pilot]

Don't like chemtrails and wanna do something about it?? Build yourself an orgone generator-they work.

I built one and it has been standing in the middle of my backyard since Feb of last year. After I put it out there-I noticed a change-the trails dissipated very quickly and they no longer leave cloud cover like before. I live about 200 miles from 3 major airports that crisscross my area daily. I had many , many very frustrating back and forths with chemtrail debunkers on that other site and they could not convince me with their arguments that I was seeing "contrails".

anyway check this out-
http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_...generator.html

It's lots of fun to build one, like a science project!

[JSErwine]

"In the mean time, I advise you to simply set out some petree dishes (saucers, etc.), collect some samples, and observe what ends up in your samples...if you've got some time and a little cash, you could even get them analyzed by a lab. Try the first dish on a clear day, then the second on a day when you see plenty of chemtrail cover....you'll soon see for yourself."


There is only one problem with this test. Every day there are god knows how many foriegn objects that enter our atmosphere from outer space, plus all the various air born "trash" from our own enviroment. The contamination would be near impossible to sort through.

I think there are groups of people testing water sources, and they have found proof of high barium counts in some of these tests. I know they are doing some water tests in cedar falls, I.A., though this is most likely to check for farm chemicals (IMO).


/salute

jeff

[Kris Riley]

In Alaska where they do extensive spraying over Anchorage and the surrounding vicinity. People, once woken up to the reality are reporting being sickened by strange flu type symptoms corresponding to the spraying. I worked for the network tv there as a photojournalist and recorded many different scenes of either spraying or strange explosions in the sky. Including flaming pieces of unknown origin. I alerted a lot of people within the news to it and everyone though I was just crazy for ufos. Now I'm glad to be out of that loop and sharing thoughts with people who listen. I also tried numerous times to get an insider story about HAARP technology which is based in Alaska. Once again, some though it was a good idea, but weren't willing to lift a finger towards the funding of the trip or the time it would take to do a decent story about it. A person named Dr. Nick Begich offers this website which links to a lot of other info to HAARP. Chem-trails are really not a concern of a lot of people including scientific groups, arguing there is volcanoes spewing way more carbon into the atmosphere than a zillion jets combined. As others have said, people are really involved with other things, besides noticing the subtle things going on around them. I wouldn't consider chem trails subtle, but pretty obvious to anyone who pays attention to the skys.

[JSErwine]

What time of year were you seeing these, or is it something you have been seeing for longer than the last few months on a constant basis?

[unlimited mind]

Originally Posted by Kris Riley

In Alaska where they do extensive spraying over Anchorage and the surrounding vicinity. People, once woken up to the reality are reporting being sickened by strange flu type symptoms corresponding to the spraying. I worked for the network tv there as a photojournalist and recorded many different scenes of either spraying or strange explosions in the sky. Including flaming pieces of unknown origin. I alerted a lot of people within the news to it and everyone though I was just crazy for ufos. Now I'm glad to be out of that loop and sharing thoughts with people who listen. I also tried numerous times to get an insider story about HAARP technology which is based in Alaska. Once again, some though it was a good idea, but weren't willing to lift a finger towards the funding of the trip or the time it would take to do a decent story about it. A person named Dr. Nick Begich offers this website which links to a lot of other info to HAARP. Chem-trails are really not a concern of a lot of people including scientific groups, arguing there is volcanoes spewing way more carbon into the atmosphere than a zillion jets combined. As others have said, people are really involved with other things, besides noticing the subtle things going on around them. I wouldn't consider chem trails subtle, but pretty obvious to anyone who pays attention to the skys.

in january and feburary of this year, the local hospitals had to quarantine (this might not be the right word) all hospitals in asheville. no visitors were allowed. at that same time this area was being sprayed at least 5 out of every 7 days. i sent links with chem trail information to all of my city commisioners and asked them to look into this. the local airport here denies that they are in the skies. coo coo!

it seems that the only way to do anything these days is thru grassroots politics. and at this point the most prudent thing to do is to acknowledge this activity is taking place and then get down to protecting ourselves from the madness.

the independent tests that have been done show that everyone needs to be detoxing their bodies of heavy metals and fungi/molds. magic mineral is suppose to do a great job with detoxing this stuff.

i see birds flying around now with their wing feathers in such a mess, some missing, others caked with something i have not identified. lots of defoliation with the tips of trees as well, much more than i have noticed, since i bagan noticing 15 years ago.

it is a good topic to discuss here, as i have read in some of the replies where they were unaware of this stuff.

[stal]

heres my two cents.
i live and work in outback australia (western nsw) on a sheep and cattle station, and have spent several years watching both con and chemtrails. imo there is a huge difference between them. some days the entire sky is covered, and there is a lot of sky here on the plains. a specific example would be the day before the huge storm that hit melbourne earlier this year while prime minister kevin rudd was doing his first state visit to the US. a demonstration perhaps....

We see a lot of chemtrails in Canada. (I live in Calgary AB/ northwestern Americas.) I read one lady's ideas today, link below, that were new to me. She made a mind control/ barium connection. I'm not sure if this is a valid connection, but that's the thing.... with the obscene cost, the crap, the weather, what is going on... I'm still guessing. I continue to ask my government officials about it, knowing that other citizens' requests are answered with detailed explanations about jet condensation trails. I guess the problem doesn't really exist.

I can't see why US military activity is taking place in Canada, unless it's all about NATO. We don't have the kind of equipment & budget - just useful geography. It seems most countries affected by chemtrails are those in NATO, so it's about war, alliances, geopolitics.

To say that I hate it would be an understatement. I've gone through bad patches. I have also noticed physical symptoms after 'heavy' days, e.g. fluid in ear, sinus congestion, imbalance - and flu/cold effects in others. Certain storms create a sudden sleepiness, like I was hit on the back of the head. 'Messing' the skies with these industrial projects is only bad, stupid, reckless, careless, wasteful, cruel, maybe even profane - at least that's my opinion. I see planes all the time - crisscrossing, left, right, center, east, north...

The possibilities of scalar weapons, barium, mind control etc. are very real and powerful and would be another factor to consider in urban areas (if you can't leave). I wonder if anyone has more info about it? I'm familiar with a few mind control projects & operations. I just haven't heard so in relation to chemtrail compounds. Maybe intuition is the best precaution.

Here's the link: http://www.metatech.org/A06/chemtrai...son_cause.html

Our local sky phenomena:



**calmness & stillness & quiet reflection**

[swordsmith]

I am sure the chemtrails have a mind control element, there is to me an obvious connection to the so called cell phone towers and the broadcasting of low frequencies.

Last night was the first night I did not hear the rumble of very disturbing low freqency sound I have heard every night for the last month or so. The sound starts out as a subtle ( to some) electrical sounding vibration, then gets stronger until it wakes me up.

On full beam, it is the most irritating force that makes it hard to think at all. In fact if I get to sleep when it is on, my dreams are quite disturbed. I am pretty convinced the whole plasma sky thing is to broadcast right through us, as well as the TV screen sky scenario. Once we are all nicely metalized ( word ?) we are as walking antenna . If making people unable to think clearly and feel anxious isnt an insidious form of mind control , then I dont know what is. Not to mention the heavy metals we absorb make us unable to think clearly all on their own, like the aluminium /alzheimers connection. Howzabout a double whammy then? Very clever really.

Some " people" really need their come-downance.

Thanks to the person who posted the "Dont Talk About the Weather " film, its really good and even has a bit of (black) humor. Much of it is exactly how I feel peeling back the curtains of a morning, only in my head the music would be from " Psycho".

OK, anyone out there WITHOUT chemtrails? That would be nice to hear. Or no cell towers? Correction, few towers?

[Sarahmay]

Originally Posted by swordsmith

I am sure the chemtrails have a mind control element, there is to me an obvious connection to the so called cell phone towers and the broadcasting of low frequencies.

OK, anyone out there WITHOUT chemtrails? That would be nice to hear. Or no cell towers? Correction, few towers?

I have no cell towers near my home (can't get any reception) and they are sparse in the town where I work. But I have plenty of chemtrails, and NO commercial air traffic where I live. And I've been waking up at night with chest pains (chemtrail symptoms?).

Thanks for the link to the film, Angel.

[Trickyfingers]

Originally Posted by Kris Riley

In Alaska where they do extensive spraying over Anchorage and the surrounding vicinity. People, once woken up to the reality are reporting being sickened by strange flu type symptoms corresponding to the spraying. .

Your absolutely right about the people getting sick, they are hitting us VERY hard up here and then using HAARP to cause the scalar clouds we see everyday and the news weather person is calling them gravity clouds- can you believe that???? Never was tought about gravity clouds in school- have you? They just put in the newspaper the other day that this was the coldest summer we've ever had.

Yes, they do spray at night here also all the time.


Anyways, as I've stated in other posts, I too have alot of orgones devices that keeps the chemtrails, negative energies etc away from our vicinity and keeps us from getting sick which I'm very greatful for .

[pilot]

Originally Posted by pilot

Don't like chemtrails and wanna do something about it?? Build yourself an orgone generator-they work.




http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_...generator.html

It's lots of fun to build one, like a science project!

seriously you guys these WORK. it's easy and fun and it is better than watching the skies helplessly being polluted with that crap.

go for it

BTW it is not necessary to use copper pipe- aluminum or any other kind is fine, copper is extemely expensive these days so don't let that stop you-the important ingredients are the metal shavings and crystals!! Also you can make smaller orgone devices in muffin pans and place them near cell phone towers. I made some and put them near the refinery where I live and all the cell towers in this town have been "busted".

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by pilot

seriously you guys these WORK. it's easy and fun and it is better than watching the skies helplessly being polluted with that crap.

go for it

BTW it is not necessary to use copper pipe- aluminum or any other kind is fine, copper is extemely expensive these days so don't let that stop you-the important ingredients are the metal shavings and crystals!! Also you can make smaller orgone devices in muffin pans and place them near cell phone towers. I made some and put them near the refinery where I live and all the cell towers in this town have been "busted".

Pilot thanks for the practical information. Are you aware of Morgellons Disease associated with Chemtrails?

[pilot]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Pilot thanks for the practical information. Are you aware of Morgellons Disease associated with Chemtrails?

Hi Questiny,

Yes, I have read about Morgellons but have no direct contact with anyone who has suffered from it. I understand that physicians actually tried to convince people it was all in their minds...yeh

I've got little threads growing out of my skin, but I'm just imagining things, right doctor, thanks!

It seems to be associated with chemtrails but is there any definitive proof that it is the cause? I think they derseve the blame but that's just me. It's a very strange and creepy affliction, I feel for those poor folks who've had to deal with it. It must be awful.

[Peter]

Good for you Pilot, Im on to it.
That photo of Bill's is something else, frightening.
Number 404, they're showing off making right angled holes in clouds, even more frightening.

[fairangel]

I am in definite agreement that Chemtrails are part of HAARP, weather control, depopulation, environmental degradation, Electromagnetic soup for whatever they have that we don't know about. They have patterns, and I have seen them for years and years. Even in movies you can see them. Contrails are merely ice crystals which dissipate quickly. These things hang around for a long time, whiting out the sky, stopping rainfall, and probably steering and controlling the strength of hurricanes. They do make you sick. Arizona Skywatch has the lab results of the metals in them, and others have reported fiber webs containing dessicated blood cells, stealth pathogens, fungi, molds and other serious biohazards. Eye infections are a new problem. Morgellons is still being investigated. I also believe they are directly killing some plant life, including trees and edibles. They do get into our water systems, and the combination of fluoride and aluminum can cross your blood/ brain barrier. We do have an epidemic of Dementias, Multiple Sclerosis, Lou Gehrig's disease, Type II diabetes, Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue, Gulf War syndrome, and autoimmune diseases. Chemtrails are lately sprayed at night, and over the tops of storm fronts. Protecting your immune system is really important right now. We are lucky if we have a day or two of blue sky! I have been researching these for about 4 years now, and they just seem to get worse.

[JesterTerrestrial]

Earth - the sickest planet in the milky way?

So whats it going to take to stop this? Its obvious that its happening. Even if its just contrails its still pollution and destroys the natural beauty of the sky.

Where the bleep is anti-gravity?!

Today I wish/manifest an end to this madness of chemtrails on my planet.

I SEE BLUE SKIES...and anti-gravity propulsion for everyone.

[giovonni]

Please note; there is a weather forecast site (owsweather.com) from Ontario, Southern California, that has a daily tracking map for North America (and now also Europe) on chemtrail -flow current locations. I have been monitoring the site for a few weeks, and have definitely noticed frequent sinus and throat problem symptoms, along with pain and joint stiffness within my body- on days with high and highest alert conditions. Check the site out, for it covers a multitude of interesting weather conditions and phenomenon.
giovonni

[Kundaflower]

Hello beloveds..

Answer is yes...

Why ?

Dark reasons...for it is done behind the curtain...

Any chance to succeed ?

No..

Why ?

They do not count the power of few...

Just relax and enjoy the ride

Love and Peace

[Paramartasaya]

It is worse than what you think

Read:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...rgellons08.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...rgellons04.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...eticfood07.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...rgellons02.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...s.htm#contents