David Ickes' Reptilians are Counter Intel Op

[Lionhawk]

Starlah, wrote, "For those in this thread that claim to have witnessed these reptilian beings first hand, Unified, Angel, and Ele, I would love to hear the experience in more detail if you could...."

Well if you notice it isn't being told in this thread. So maybe what I was thinking was to post something along those lines somewhere else just so we don't change the construct of this thread. Just out of respect. You also have to consider these kind of experiences also are a bearing of the soul. For those looking on the outside who never had such an experience might have a hard time accepting the fact that these experiences actually do happen. Also the ones that have had these experiences do not want to be pursued as like in a witch hunt. That's why no one is saying anything in that direction. The consensus is that there is no proof that they can provide and if they could provide the proof, it wouldn't matter anyway as most people would react with their emotional bodies instead of embracing it as a possibility. It's just human nature in these regards.

[Angel in Disguise]

What my friend and I both witnessed is best described by looking at the figure in this clip... It appears at 1:08 minutes... and then again briefly after.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ideoid=2640142

[Fredkc]

Christo;
Re. your post on electricity...

I have consulted several ancient Sioux legends and,
I am sorry to tell you that electricity is an illusion!

What makes all "electrical devices" work, is the power of smoke.

This is easily proven by anyone:
What happens to any electrical device, whether plugged in,
or not, when the smoke leaves ?

It quits working, right?

I rest my case,

Fred

[Christo888]

Hey Fred...

[Christo888]

FYI LionHawk...

In the archives of Avalon there are numerous threads discussing the Reptilians and Greys and many have commented on their personal experiences over the last year or so, this is not a new subject here by any means.

Instead of speaking for everyone else on this topic than go ahead and start a thread that is for personal experiences... anyone whom has had an experience with a Reptilian or Grey than go ahead and describe in detail what happened. If the experience was in your imagination than please outline as such if your personal experience was in this physical realm than by all means let's hear it.

If 'they' are a dimensional being then do the best you can to describe what that dimension is... Why does this subject have to be held in such mystery... we talk about UFO's quite openly, we talk about underground bases quite openly, so do we want to continue the mystery by not talking about it?

Religious people talk about the devil constantly, so is it a polarity issue? The devil has never shown himself in the flesh as depicted and described in statues and writings.

A family member sees devils and demons all the time and she is a born againer type fanatic, but when I speak with non born againers they don't really have a whole lot to say in that regard, they don't experience it!!!

So is it a psy-ops phenomena? Are only certainly people capable of seeing Reps and Greys and devils and demons? Is it a transmitted frequency that brings to life these types of monsters? Are there certain times where the frequency is heightened and whomever is in close proximity to the energy will experience it? Are there individual members who want to keep the mystery so they purposely won't talk about it as if that will keep fear alive?

Start a thread about personal experience with Reps and Greys. Who is willing to participate?

Or this is beating the ground with a stick and I guess we'll move on and begin creating the world in which WE all want to live devoid of the mysterious devil ones.

[Christo888]

OOOOPsss ... Ok never mind a thread has been started.

[tone3jaguar]

So I guess that I will post this one, one of my favorite all time movies. Paints a little less intimidating reptilian picture. Perhaps who ever wrote this was trying to promote a non racist mentality when it comes to the appearance of different types of ET's? What if there is only one bad race of reptilians and 10 good ones? Isn't it a little reckless to group them all together and stereotype them? Has humanity learned nothing from our mistakes?

[orthodoxymoron]

[BROOK]

[RedeZra]

Jordanus Maximus

suggests

the sound of God's steps in Eden

must mean He is an alien

and

that the man

in Genesis 18

whom Abraham

speaks of as the Lord

must be an alien


He cannot fathom

that God would appear

to man as a man

or a burning bush lol

[orthodoxymoron]

You are so correct voltron. Solutions must be formulated. Just spouting problems is like drilling holes in a lifeboat. The problems need to be clearly revealed...but proper solutions should be formulated before yelling that the sky is falling.

Some speakers and writers provide vital information regarding the problems...but one must look elsewhere to locate solid and workable solutions. Running in the streets (the result of being programmed with fear and anger)...or giving up (the result of being programmed with 'resistance is futile')...are not solid and workable solutions.

The subjects discussed on Avalon can be very tricky. Problems must always be balanced with solutions. This is easier said than done. I worry that we can bury ourselves in the problems on the one hand...or bury our heads in the sand on the other hand. I'm not quite sure what the proper balance-point is. That's why I just mumble on the internet...and mumble to myself! It's easier that way!

[TempestGarden]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

I am not saying that there are no humanoid reptilian ETs, I am just saying that they are not fronting as mammals in Washington. I think that there are actually multiple races of reptilian humanoid ET's. Why would there only be one?

Noted.

[Carol]

Awhile back I purchased David Icke's DVD interview with Credo Mutwa and his books. Having spent the time viewing and reading I've come to the conclusion that David Icke's information was all secondhand. Credo Mutwa is first hand and the more credible of the two. Therefore, Reptilians, to my mind do exist. I also know of a woman who has had I believe 6 reptialian hybrid children. I have personally communication with this woman, read her book and spent time on the telephone with her.

I'm sure there is mucho counter intel out there. I tend to go with those who have first hand experience and even then put the info through a sieve.

[eleni]

I know Credo's nephew (who maintains they are real)as well as hearing an account of one of the *first* reptilian rape cases 19 years ago by Linda Howe (I was sworn to secrecy at the time- now so much has come out that it doesn't matter).
It's my belief that reptilians are a master race of geneticists and have been here long before mammalian species.

As with everything- I'm sure there are positive factions of reptoids and more malevolent factions.


I've only encountered them on ayahausca and they are not negative towards me. It's my belief some sacred plant teachers open up dimensional fields therefore allowing us to access them and their inhabitants.

[TempestGarden]

Originally Posted by eleni

I've only encountered them on ayahausca and they are not negative towards me. It's my belief some sacred plant teachers open up dimensional fields therefore allowing us to access them and their inhabitants.

Eleni,

Can you explain what you mean here?

[Phtha]

I watched and enjoyed the Credo Mutwa interview some time ago as well. (They are probably still on youtube if anyone is interested in watching)

To me his story came across the same way that our myths do. It is not to be taken literally, and there is a deep meaning to what is said. Credo is a great story teller that is for sure.

When Credo started talking about his personal abductions, rape by alien females, and mind control implants... it makes a good tale, much of it makes sense, and who knows it could be true... stranger things have happened I'm sure. I take it as allegory for now though.


For those in this thread that claim to have witnessed these reptilian beings first hand, Unified, Angel, and Ele, I would love to hear the experience in more detail if you could....

Originally Posted by Carol

Awhile back I purchased David Icke's DVD interview with Credo Mutwa and his books. Having spent the time viewing and reading I've come to the conclusion that David Icke's information was all secondhand. Credo Mutwa is first hand and the more credible of the two. Therefore, Reptilians, to my mind do exist. I also know of a woman who has had I believe 6 reptialian hybrid children. I have personally communication with this woman, read her book and spent time on the telephone with her.

I'm sure there is mucho counter intel out there. I tend to go with those who have first hand experience and even then put the info through a sieve.

[Starlah]

For those in this thread that claim to have witnessed these reptilian beings first hand, Unified, Angel, and Ele, I would love to hear the experience in more detail if you could....[/QUOTE]
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I'd be curious for those who have had the experience of meeting a Reptilian whether you've noticed a 'sulphur' smell.......also whether you experienced any physical reactions after the meeting....such as a rash on exposed areas of the skin.
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History is a lie commonly agreed upon...........Voltaire

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by Starlah

I'd be curious for those who have had the experience of meeting a Reptilian whether you've noticed a 'sulphur' smell.......also whether you experienced any physical reactions after the meeting....such as a rash on exposed areas of the skin.
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History is a lie commonly agreed upon...........Voltaire

as for the sulphur smell

it is the stench of demons

its a dead giveaway

of the visitor's nature

for it comes from brimstone

[voltron]

David Wilcock mentioned in Los angeles Awake and Aware conference that some of the alternative news web sites are sponsored by the Pentagon. I have always had my doubts about David Icke. Mind you I have read some of his books, visited his web site many times and listened to his videos. The thing that characterizes both he and alex Jones is they are always fear based. They never offer solutions. just problems. They think it is enough to know the truth. Well, sorry folks, knowing the truth is only the start. I was enlightened myself once, a long time ago. And I can tell you I feel into the trap of conspiracy theories. They sound enticeing. Like you are always learning something new. But after 50 years you realize you are going around and around in circles. just like those people who are always predicting the ETs and coming any day now.

[Moxie]

yes, easily recognized Votron... if there are no solid solutions, what IS the point of reitterating fear based sharings.

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by voltron

David Wilcock mentioned in Los angeles Awake and Aware conference that some of the alternative news web sites are sponsored by the Pentagon. I have always had my doubts about David Icke. Mind you I have read some of his books, visited his web site many times and listened to his videos. The thing that characterizes both he and alex Jones is they are always fear based. They never offer solutions. just problems. They think it is enough to know the truth. Well, sorry folks, knowing the truth is only the start. I was enlightened myself once, a long time ago. And I can tell you I feel into the trap of conspiracy theories. They sound enticeing. Like you are always learning something new. But after 50 years you realize you are going around and around in circles. just like those people who are always predicting the ETs and coming any day now.

David Icke doesnt promote fear...............he says its "a need to know" that he tells us what is going on. He is all for peaceful protest. A stand up and let them know we know. At first Alex was all about fighting but he has changed his tune quite abit. He is no longer sponsoring this idea. He has completely changed his views on this.

[Phtha]

I'm the opposite. I question Wilcock, mainly since his Nobama stance, but I admire Icke a lot and never got the feeling he is getting payed from insiders. Actually Icke is one of my favorite researchers in the biz. I don't see his style as fear mongering, you can't fix a problem if you don't know what it is so like Jones he has his part to play.

But your points are well taken about getting caught in these endless circles.

Originally Posted by voltron

David Wilcock mentioned in Los angeles Awake and Aware conference that some of the alternative news web sites are sponsored by the Pentagon. I have always had my doubts about David Icke.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

David Icke doesnt promote fear...............he says its "a need to know" that he tells us what is going on....

Originally Posted by Phtha

...but I admire Icke a lot and never got the feeling he is getting payed from insiders. Actually Icke is one of my favorite researchers in the biz. I don't see his style as fear mongering, you can't fix a problem if you don't know what it is so like Jones he has his part to play.

I agree with you both on this... it seems fear based but sometimes people need a shock! The truth will set you free and love vibrations etc don't seem to have no solutions... I suppose it really depends on how open your own personaly chakra system is and whether you are still in fear yourself...

[14 Chakras]

"t seems fear based but sometimes people need a shock! The truth will set you free and love vibrations etc don't seem to have no solutions...."


I agree. It is not fluffy love that will transform the world. It is the kinda of love that demands we shine the light on the darkness. The people must awaken to the reality of the situation we face, and have allowed to be created around us here on this planet.

What we currently believe is reality, is a complete pharce. There will be wake up calls. People must actually take a look at the darkness in order to get rid of it.

Want to pretend everything is just fine how it is, Obama is going to bring forth good solutions and we shouldn't admit there's any bad guys?

Well, that is exactly what the matrix wants, what the bad guys want.

The fact is we face a massive deception on this planet, and it will take people shining the light on it, true love, unconditional love, challenging the illusions in order to awaken people.

From my perspective, Icke doesn't have all the answers. But he is doing a great service to humanity by telling it like it is, and he is doing it from the place of love.

Unconditional love demands that things become more rather than remaining trapped in a state of ignorance and suffering and it is willing to challenge the darkness when it see it.