**COPIED FROM JL FORUM as per Bill ** 911 no planes?

[johnlear]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Hi John, Henry, Ron, everyone:

I enjoyed Henry's question mark.

What seems to have happened is this: (great theater...)

John thought EYES WIDE OPEN was Henry Deacon... and insulted Henry (but addressing it to EYES WIDE OPEN).

Then Henry saw it later and posted his question mark.

John, you know that I respect you hugely. But what you said (AS IF to Henry was not warranted. Henry has been to some places few people ever have - but not (to the best of my knowledge) on any turnip truck.

As best I know, you don't know the guy. John, do take the trouble - after all the trouble you HAVE taken to collect all your data - to get his data also. Not logical, Captain, to ignore that.

For those who don't know the history:

Henry stated on Camelot (publicly) that the WTC planes were real, not holograms - because (explained to me privately) he personally worked on the technology used in the data transfer from the 9/11 control base to the "white aircraft" (the data relay plane) ... which was relaying control data to the actual WTC aircraft.

On that basis (and ALSO from what he was briefed about, as I understand it) Henry fairly reasonably concluded that the WTC planes were real.

If they WEREN'T - then there was even more of a charade going on than anyone realizes even now, and those with good data need to work together to figure this out.

Repeat: work together...

There's a real opportunity here to collaborate to figure things out. If we miss this, then we're all dumb.

I'll now monitor this thread with tremendous interest...

Very best to all - Bill

I must be dumb then because will not 'collaberate' with anybody over anything. But especially not with a disinformation artist to 'figure things out'.

I already figured it out.

Let me make it simple for all of us:

This will be my last post on Project Avalon.

And don't ask me back as I have much better uses
for my time than 'working together' and spoon feeding the ignorant.

All the best,

John Lear

[Orion11]

for a brilliant guy, you are pretty ignorant yourself John. Grow up man.
One of the seniors on site, and you behave like a child when something you dont like is said.
Peace

[JoinTheFun]

Oh, my gods !

You'll be back...

[JoinTheFun]

Originally Posted by zorgon

Not sure... but the Netherlands is a major Key in all this

Knew about the (German!)Prince Bernhard Bilderbugger founding and the Dutch Nazi money banking, but major key?
I would hope not, or not anymore.
However, the current vice premier worked for Shell and his retired party predecessor forced participation in the JSF on us and is now a Shell Board member. (Does that JSF plane actually exist ?) A substantial amount of money is flowing into the pockets of ...?...

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Bigfatfurrytexan

Isn't the Netherlands supposed to be the supposed origination point for the Aryans? Or was that Finland?

Indo-Aryan migration
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Indo-Aryan migration (disambiguation).
Models of the Indo-Aryan migration discuss scenarios of prehistoric migrations of the early Indo-Aryans to their historically attested areas of settlement (North India). Evidence for Indo-Aryan migration is primarily linguistic[1]but it includes a multitude of data stemming from Vedic religion, rituals, poetics as well as some aspects of social organisation and chariot technology[citation needed].
The Indo-Aryans derive from an earlier Proto-Indo-Iranian stage, usually identified with the Bronze Age Sintashta and Andronovo culture at the Caspian Sea. Their migration to and within Northern India is consequently presumed to have taken place in the Middle to Late Bronze Age, contemporary to the Late Harappan phase in India (ca. 1700 to 1300 BCE).

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Bigfatfurrytexan

Isn't the Netherlands supposed to be the supposed origination point for the Aryans? Or was that Finland?

Aryan
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aryan is an English word derived from the Sanskrit "Ārya" meaning "noble" or "honorable".[1][2] The Avestan cognate is "Airya" and the Old Persian equivalent is "Ariya". It is widely held to have been used as an ethnic self-designation of the Proto-Indo-Iranians[citation needed]. Since, in the 19th century, the Indo-Iranians were the most ancient known speakers of Indo-European languages, the word Aryan was adopted to refer not only to the Indo-Iranian people, but also to Indo-European speakers as a whole[citation needed].

In Europe, the concept of an Aryan race became influential in the late 19th and early 20th centuries as linguists and ethnologists argued that speakers of these Indo-European languages constitute a distinctive race, descended from an ancient people, who were referred to as the "primitive Aryans", but are now known as Proto-Indo-Europeans.

In linguistics, Aryan is most often used in the context of the sub-branch of Indo-Iranian languages referred to as Indo-Aryan languages.

Halliburton, and Dick Cheney, are killing our troops

A question asked at another forum...

Have any of you heard about the few dozen American Servicemen who have been electrocuted in facilities, built overseas, by contracters that the Halliburton firm oversaw? NO? Then I suggest you look it up....try to Google it, or if that fails, then go to MSNBC and search there.WHY is this not in the MSM?

Ny reply...

Is CNN not MSM uz:
KBR Electrocutes a Dozen U.S. Troops, One Green Beret Dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2plpc4zSkA

MSNBC
Haliburton and KBR are screwing our troops!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ParFskGjsns

US Troops in Iraq talk about Halliburton & KBR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chXjCtkymRQ

Halliburton provided contaminated water to Soldiers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeIxHQ-lkuM

Haliburton delivers US troops dangerous water

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFd_DOzZRF4

9-12-2003
High Payments to Halliburton for Fuel in Iraq


29-6-2005
Haliburton Hearing? Feeding our troops expired food?


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Halliburton Watch!
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/home.html

20-12-2007
More Women Claim Sex Abuse At KBR (in Iraq)

Halliburton and all of its subsidiaries, including KBR and DII Industries, will remain strong and healthy, with good growth prospects.

http://www.halliburton.com/default.aspx?pageid=1050

HALLIBURTON DUBAI and the BUSH FAMILY


Halliburton has been given contracts worth Billions without ever having to bid on them in Iraq... nor was any other company ALLOWED to bid on them

Halliburton is moving its HEADQUARTERS from TEXAS to DUBAI

Originally posted by Dubyakadubla at another forum....

Look, lets get this one straight....Dick the Cheney and Halliburton have already arranged to move their entire Headquarters into Dubai

Were we not going to give control of our ports to a company from Dubai?

Delaying of Dubai Port Deal Brings Port Authority Grief

The furor over a company from the United Arab Emirates operating terminals at the Port of Newark has been nearly matched this week by turmoil surrounding its exit.

Over the past year, DP World, the port operator owned by the royal Maktoum family of Dubai, has been under stiff political pressure to sell its rights to run terminals in ports around the United States. So in December, DP World reached an agreement estimated at more than a billion dollars to sell its leases to A.I.G. Global Investment Group, an arm of the American insurance giant.

NEW YORK TIMES

I wonder if Halliburton has any contracts on THESE projects in Dubai?

The New Tower of Babel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTF7_Z_G3d0

Dubai in 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xdjcQ0ZJVA

Dubai World Islands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTyks-IRFPY

Dubai Projects 1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUYAA74bvA4

Dubai Projects (version 2) 1/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pnSv6yLMuE

The first World Dynamic Architecture in DuBai project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQazjw-4jI


Here in America we debate new tech while Dubai is getting buildings like this while YOU are paying for it at the Gas Pumps...

Shanghai, Japan and Munich already have operating maglev trains that hit 500 km/hour while we sit in chat rooms and forums debating "well sometime in the future..."

Japanese Maglev Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDmH7dfpl0Y

Shanghai Maglev Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-mVT-ORww

Bend over America YOU are paying for all this so THEY can enjoy a lifestyle you can only dream about....

Meanwhile back in IRAQ...

Iraqi government expected to have $79 billion surplus.


Saudi Arabia...

Because of oil profits Saudi citizens do NOT PAY INCOME TAX and neither do the businesses

Saudi-owned businesses do not pay corporate tax
SAUDI ARABIA PDF


So what's it gonna take America?

Obviously THIS isn't enough...

"BUSH GUILTY OF 1ST DEG MURDER" - BUGLIOSI TELLS CONGRESS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45f1Riv_z1I

Obviously THIS isn't enough

9/10/2001: Rumsfeld says $2.3 TRILLION Missing from Pentagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU

Nor THIS

McKinney Grills Rumsfeld
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU

Obviously 9/11 wasn't enough No matter which side of the fence your on...

If "terrorists" did it why are we doing business with them and why are they making Mega surplus profits..

If "They" did it... why are "They" still there?

President Bush -- Fool me Once...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM


Now I have to go to work so I can afford to drive

[Bigfatfurrytexan]

Busy lunch hour, eh?

[empathy]

If you think the no plane thing is bizarre. THIS IS GOING TO BLOW YOUR MIND!

http://www.drjudywood.com/

Seriously, if you aren't familiar with this info, it's worth checking out.

[addalight]

Originally Posted by empathy

If you think the no plane thing is bizarre. THIS IS GOING TO BLOW YOUR MIND!

http://www.drjudywood.com/

Seriously, if you aren't familiar with this info, it's worth checking out.

Thank you, I am in awe.

[luis9343]

i must say, the photos Zorgon posted of the plane going into the tower in the first post are the most compelling evidence for the no-plane theory i have seen.

I also wanted to share this awesome 3D Holographic technology, which only makes me think that if average citizens have this, what must the governments technology be like.

Holographic Projection - 3D Dancing Hologram

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtpQloAn_3w

Though im not on the no-planer bandwagon just yet, some very interesting evidence in this thread though, definitely making me think things over.

[stefaan]

What's that now?
The first, and now the second, thread I read today... both are filled with people not getting along too well, to say the least.
What's going on?

Do I dare to read another thread?

[Mike_Jetson]

Eyes Wide Open you have stated your point to John but by not reading his affidavid you are also 'throwing toys out of the pram'

This debating stuff is not meant to be easy and it will always cause conflict. As long as it doesnt stop people learning and communicating then I can handle it. Sometimes people say things they may regret but most of us are only human and not Vulcan

[peacelovinman]

I did not give any credence to the "no planes" theory until I watched the "September Clues" series on YouTube. In, what I thought was, a very clever analysis of the TV footage from that fateful day, many anomalies are shown up.

Eyes Wide Open - have a look and see what you think? I don't think we should 100% trust what ANYBODY here says, whether it be Lear, Wilcock, Deacon, Ryan, Cassidy, Burisch etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqEpuTGc98s

And let's not be over-sensitive about things, hey? Let's concentrate on trying, as Bill says, to work together to get at the truth. I've always felt that 9/11 is the achilles heel of the illuminati. There's just so much evidence that the official version is a crock of s**t.

If we could get the right facts out to the masses, we might make a difference?