The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama

[Eli in MI]

Thanks for your comments David, Sarah, and notkuroda.

It's nice to hear from others who are interested in seeing the positive possibilities on this planet.

It's become clear that many, perhaps most, users here are enthusiastic about nothing other than their own doom and gloom.

A man who was virtually unknown 2 years ago, who has endured greater scrutiny than perhaps any other earthling in history, who wants to help struggling middle-class Americans get jobs, who wants 47 million people to get the health care they deserve, who wants to help this country free itself from dependence on fossil fuels, save the environment and repair this world has been transformed by paranoia and intolerance into a man whose "agenda is killing off 95% of human beings in this world".

I cannot describe the departure from logic and reason occurring here. I am tempted to start a new poll asking how many psychoactive medications Avalon users ingest daily. Obviously, the xanax isn't strong enough anymore.

The funny part is this: Not a single person this entire thread has defended John McCain as a better choice. Not a single person has defended Ron Paul as a better choice. Or Cynthia McKinney. Or Ralph Nader. Or anyone.

The question then becomes why do people such as mntruthseeker, Anticomuna, and bluestix feel strongly enough to take the time to post their negative ideas and repeat entirely debunked lies about Obama? Is it simply inflexibility in their beliefs? Is there another agenda?

Why must we all not only be completely scared but also absolutely convinced the future will be terrible? I refuse to accept that. I have seen how Obama has empowered people in this country. And we are going to win.

Statements like:

"Obama's change is scarey and you have to realize this before you vote and go around saying differently"

and:

"Hitler had a 'high vibration' as well, just check the quantity of people that 'responded' to him."

say a lot more about the person writing them than they do about Obama.

I refuse to believe there is smoky room somewhere filled with evil men who "put in place" people like Obama and McCain. Obama was nominated because he has a gift connecting with people and because we are ready for a drastic change. We are tired of the Bush/Clinton royal families.

McCain was nominated because he was perceived as the most bipartisan and tolerant Republican. He got the most votes. This is the shifting direction of peoples perceptions. The far right-wingers that have been controlling this administration *hate* McCain, because he used to actually BE tolerant and bipartisan. He is quite different now.

If the smoky room were truly in charge, and could somehow rig the voting machines in every state nationwide, wouldn't it be Hillary vs. Giuliani or Romney? Why pick two people you obviously despise?

It's clear that there *are* a group of people we refer to as the Powers That Be. It's clear that the ET presence has been covered up for 60+ years, and that there are bankers and religions who are greedier and more power hungry than the rest of us.

But it's just business, that's all. It's all about money, and capitalism is dying. It served its purpose extraordinarily well. We as earthlings have developed technology to make our lives better, connected our voices like never before, and are continuing to "wake up" and realize The One Spirit at an increasing rate. Information is our power, and the PTB do not control the information any more.

Sadly, it appears Project Avalon may not be a good gathering place for those folks who are already turned-on and tuned-in.

[MikeW]

From an English pov I would say be careful about buying into the old 'I stand for change' catchphrase because once these individuals get into power history shows that exceptional social and economic 'conditions' result in a complete u-turn in any policies that do not agree with the agenda's grand plan. I have seen this in England over te past 15 years. I admire you for trying to see the best in a bad situation, but i feel that the whole political system in America and the UK does not have any real power right now.

Until the people are prepared to march peacfully on the capital then this will never change.

Keep up the positive attitude. Unite instead of fight.

[munkey]

beware the wolf in sheeps clothing.


look for the good in everyone, but just remember that evil does not have horns and will deceive you with smiles.

[RSF]

Laugh, seems a pretty-wide open area of discussion. 'The NWO, ETs, the economy, and Obama'
Don't quite understand where Obama fit's in within the important matters but -- OK.

NWO, real deal and possibly in it all to stop third-world aggression and their building, buying or stealing WMD type stuff to use (walk-in) into domesticated Countries.
ETs, you betcha -- their here.
Economy, Uha.
Obama, if the USA agreed with Clinton's economic efforts, I'd guess Obama is more of the except more dedicated in paving the road for the middle class. While insisting the rich give a wee-bit more to finance it.
RSF

[Eli in MI]

Originally Posted by RSF

Don't quite understand where Obama fit's in within the important matters but -- OK.

RSF: I mention Obama in this forum because I believe he represents the best possibility for eventual ET disclosure. I consider this information to be the biggest news in human history.

I believe real positive change on this planet will begin once this knowledge is processed and reaches critical mass. That is my hope.

My original ideas were carefully laid out in the first post. There's a lot of opposition. It's an interesting discussion I certainly could not find elsewhere, although I must say again there are many among us who are pretty staunch in their negative attitudes.

PS. Thanks for your thoughts MikeW. I believe the Americans and Obama are beginning to take the power back right now. His transition team is already in place, taking the necessary steps. There are eyes everywhere, too many eyes for them to steal it this time. We have the votes by an overwhelming margin. Finally the media here is catching on that people want answers to tough questions, not smears and lies. And in the end, it will still be up to us to hold him accountable.

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by Eli in MI

A man who was virtually unknown 2 years ago, who has endured greater scrutiny than perhaps any other earthling in history...

Haha. Maybe only from Fox News. The rest of the press chose him in the primaries instead of Hillary and now wants him to win.

Originally Posted by Eli in MI

The question then becomes why do people such as mntruthseeker, Anticomuna, and bluestix feel strongly enough to take the time to post their negative ideas and repeat entirely debunked lies about Obama?

Because you don't fix a problem with another problem.

[Anticomuna]

Originally Posted by Eli in MI

Obama was nominated because he has a gift connecting with people and because we are ready for a drastic change.

Funny, you criticized my Hitler comment, and then said this. This is funny! I can picture Obama's Youth doing Sieg Heils already. Lots of people have the ability to connect with people, but that doesn't mean they are good, and history proves us that.

[Elephant Man]

Ive been smiling a lot reading this thread, very entertaining and thought provoking my question is, who on earth would want to take over the job as pres. at the present time? man theres a lot of clearing up to do, being the next president is gonna be a tough one. luv you all

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Eli in MI

Thanks for your comments David, Sarah, and notkuroda.

It's nice to hear from others who are interested in seeing the positive possibilities on this planet.

It's become clear that many, perhaps most, users here are enthusiastic about nothing other than their own doom and gloom.

A man who was virtually unknown 2 years ago, who has endured greater scrutiny than perhaps any other earthling in history, who wants to help struggling middle-class Americans get jobs, who wants 47 million people to get the health care they deserve, who wants to help this country free itself from dependence on fossil fuels, save the environment and repair this world has been transformed by paranoia and intolerance into a man whose "agenda is killing off 95% of human beings in this world".

I cannot describe the departure from logic and reason occurring here. I am tempted to start a new poll asking how many psychoactive medications Avalon users ingest daily. Obviously, the xanax isn't strong enough anymore.

The funny part is this: Not a single person this entire thread has defended John McCain as a better choice. Not a single person has defended Ron Paul as a better choice. Or Cynthia McKinney. Or Ralph Nader. Or anyone.

The question then becomes why do people such as mntruthseeker, Anticomuna, and bluestix feel strongly enough to take the time to post their negative ideas and repeat entirely debunked lies about Obama? Is it simply inflexibility in their beliefs? Is there another agenda?

Why must we all not only be completely scared but also absolutely convinced the future will be terrible? I refuse to accept that. I have seen how Obama has empowered people in this country. And we are going to win.

Statements like:

"Obama's change is scarey and you have to realize this before you vote and go around saying differently"

and:

"Hitler had a 'high vibration' as well, just check the quantity of people that 'responded' to him."

say a lot more about the person writing them than they do about Obama.

I refuse to believe there is smoky room somewhere filled with evil men who "put in place" people like Obama and McCain. Obama was nominated because he has a gift connecting with people and because we are ready for a drastic change. We are tired of the Bush/Clinton royal families.

McCain was nominated because he was perceived as the most bipartisan and tolerant Republican. He got the most votes. This is the shifting direction of peoples perceptions. The far right-wingers that have been controlling this administration *hate* McCain, because he used to actually BE tolerant and bipartisan. He is quite different now.

If the smoky room were truly in charge, and could somehow rig the voting machines in every state nationwide, wouldn't it be Hillary vs. Giuliani or Romney? Why pick two people you obviously despise?

It's clear that there *are* a group of people we refer to as the Powers That Be. It's clear that the ET presence has been covered up for 60+ years, and that there are bankers and religions who are greedier and more power hungry than the rest of us.

But it's just business, that's all. It's all about money, and capitalism is dying. It served its purpose extraordinarily well. We as earthlings have developed technology to make our lives better, connected our voices like never before, and are continuing to "wake up" and realize The One Spirit at an increasing rate. Information is our power, and the PTB do not control the information any more.

Sadly, it appears Project Avalon may not be a good gathering place for those folks who are already turned-on and tuned-in.

Well said and better than I could say it.

I tend to view the anti-Obama sentiment as being more pro-NWO than Obama himself. It's meant to throw people off.