So very few people on avalon

[Carol]

I would just like to clear up some misperceptions about the selection of mods. First off every mod started off as a member just like everyone else. Some members volunteered and a few were picked out by Bill. Almost all mod selection is based on two things. The first being the quality of the posts the member is making and the second is the collective input from all of the other mods. We are looking at the individual communication style to check if the potential member mod can deal with conflict that arises between members when discussions become a bit intense.

Some members posts come to the attention of a mod through their interaction on the forums and that person may be recruited to be a mod as well. Again, all mods must agree the potential mod would be a fit for the type of work that is needed. Some of the members recruited, once on board as a mod, realized this wasn't something they wanted to do. This was where the highest attrition took place among members who were recruited as mods as compared to members who volunteered to help.

There is a lot of work that goes on beind the scenes and as a result, the real fun of posting on the forums is often put on the back-burner when being a mod as the mod role tends to take a lot of time and energy just to cover the different time zones.

I hope this explains a bit about the process.

[SIR GALAHAD]

Originally Posted by Carol

I would just like to clear up some misperceptions about the selection of mods. First off every mod started off as a member just like everyone else. Some members volunteered and a few were picked out by Bill. Almost all mod selection is based on two things. The first being the quality of the posts the member is making and the second is the collective input from all of the other mods. We are looking at the individual communication style to check if the potential member mod can deal with conflict that arises between members when discussions become a bit intense.

Some members posts come to the attention of a mod through their interaction on the forums and that person may be recruited to be a mod as well. Again, all mods must agree the potential mod would be a fit for the type of work that is needed. Some of the members recruited, once on board as a mod, realized this wasn't something they wanted to do. This was where the highest attrition took place among members who were recruited as mods as compared to members who volunteered to help.

There is a lot of work that goes on beind the scenes and as a result, the real fun of posting on the forums is often put on the back-burner when being a mod as the mod role tends to take a lot of time and energy just to cover the different time zones.

I hope this explains a bit about the process.

Yes carol you did start of as a member and i listened to you once and watched your post
and i got to tell you how much you have changed you have become like many other mods on here very abrasive and quite protective of many things

[Dean Plejaren]

Peer I have read the guidelines I understand the principles behind it all. You are in this paradigm of ownership and you think things are not restricted as you never thought out side of the box of what may be possible with people so you have never seen any obstruction to anything cause of lack of imagination. Then you blame me and say I am not valid about it. Which is fine ok but it doesn't add up logically. When you own a forum it doesn't mean you have to do things exactly the same every time and that there is no other way. You have a right to make decisions to ban or whatever I'm just talking if you want to evolve and make things work better.

You say start acting like a guest. But I don't understand ownership culture. To me the trees land and everything is not owned. Including forums. Like white people telling the native Americans start acting like a guest. Well it does not work what guest? We are here on earth.

No-one owns things my thoughts aren't property just cause I'm on a forum doesn't mean I have to change myself. I don't see myself as a guest of anything. As for using guidelines as blackmail for me thinking for myself well it makes no difference what you think I should do I am still free to live how I want and with the consequences of it.

notice how you made the analogy of getting eaten. People are so mind controlled they are programed to have everything backwards, including the concept that the laws of nature are fake and not the law that is superimposed on it.

If I follow the laws of nature how will I get eaten by a bear? If you follow imaginary laws instead of nature without exception.......this is the symbol for you right here....







I'm not saying how to run this particular forum nor am I "dashing in screaming and insulting". This place is not an exception to anywhere else on earth I treat it the same and I respect people the same. I am not invading anything or abusing anyone.

I think I have made it pretty clear where I stand I shouldn't have to clarify anymore.

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[Tuatha de Danann]

I usually check out this site every day when I can. I think this is a great site and is the only Fourm I belong to. I always find some useful information and great discussion. I think that things may have just leveled off as with anything new It starts out with great enthusiasim and winds down a bit after a while but will continue on. There is so much Info here It's a job just to take it all in. I myself don't post much " Does that makes me a Lurker?? Is that Bad? If so I've been called worse I think?" Anyway who can go back to sleep with all this noise going on, as for Obama, McCain, whoever, being elected, My opinion is "for what it's worth" that for the agenda it really doesn't matter who the president is. Obama may just have been a better sleeping pill of sorts than the others. But that's just me, Lets all go make another pot of coffee and see what else is up. Later. I hope.

[Martian Tigress]

I haven't posted lately because there hasn't been any need to. I am continuing to do my meditation and energy work, and I check back at least once a week to see if there is anything of interest. A number of times when I have signed in, there were a goodly number of people on the forum, so the day-to-day totals are seeming to me to be very similar each time I've logged in.

With regard to banned/lack of communication skills issues--

I think that a fair few of the arguments that break out at this forum are active attempts at sidetracking issues/disrupting the forum. Having kept an eye open for awhile now, I notice that arguments tend to cluster along certain threads/subjects, and I will just observe that it would certainly suit the purpose of anyone whose aim is to squelch the forum to have 'active warfare' incited between posters and moderators, and between individual posters.

At any rate, I am still here. It is not necessary to say something every day, and so I don't.

Peace,

Martian Tigress

[Anchor]

Hi this thread has gone off topic.

We (Karen and I) are going to separate out the new off-topic (but on a new topic posts into a separate thread) - no messages are being deleted.

The new thread will be in Project Camelot Conspiracy Research here http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7740

If you want to keep talking about why you think people are fewer on Avalon go right ahead here.

If you want to talk about symbology, please go there.

Thanks

Sorry if anyone disagrees with the action we have just taken.

A..

[whitecrow]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Sorry if anyone disagrees with the action we have just taken.

I'm sorry this has to be controversial. And I meant no disrespect.

As far as why there are fewer people and/or posts at Avalon lately, I gave my opinion and intend to leave it at that. I'm not here to whine about what people do or don't do.

Avalon is a vehicle as far as I am concerned. My personal message is not perfectly meshed with that of the founders, but there is no disharmony either, unless someone chooses to make it so. I neither agree nor disagree with the action taken. It is what it is.

[Dean Plejaren]

Anchor is definitely my favorite moderator lol.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by skyrimirre

I agree some people can't handle it and would like to stay asleep and believe
that Obama's in so they can sit back on the laurels.

Anyway, those of us who are here should be. Those who feel to leave, shouldn't be here.

Either way, there is a future out there waiting and we can deal with it or we can't, it is the same.

Now, let's knock it off with the Obama-bashing. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing that in every single thread here.

Regardless, perhaps people are just taking a break? I don't need to be here all the time either.

[broken arrow]

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Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

the useless fluff has been trimmed and there a less threads. quality not quantity??

trimming 'useless fluff' can be viewed as censorship. Who decides what is 'useless fluff' or what has value to someone? A person who accepts the official version of 9/11 will call all 9/11 conspiracy threads 'useless fluff' or worse...

Either there is freedom of expression, or there is control... can't have it both ways..

Cut off freedom of expression, you should expect membership to decline

Simple really 'Selective Whistle Blowing' is the same as "Government coverup' in my books

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by zorgon

trimming 'useless fluff' can be viewed as censorship. Who decides what is 'useless fluff' or what has value to someone? A person who accepts the official version of 9/11 will call all 9/11 conspiracy threads 'useless fluff' or worse...

Either there is freedom of expression, or there is control... can't have it both ways..

Cut off freedom of expression, you should expect membership to decline

Simple really 'Selective Whistle Blowing' is the same as "Government coverup' in my books

Some former members have posted pornography. sometimes control is desirable.

[Made_in_Brazil]

"A few people were banned because of offensive attitudes. I don't know of any that were banned for posting "doom and gloom" info".

Ah, that's nice to hear, Mod. Thanks!

I'm afraid some people were intimidated to post as they feared to be seen as dark-siders, whenever they presented 'gloom & doom' questions or threads. It's my perspective that I don't need to be baby-sitted as for what I should or should not read, be it 'doom & gloom' or 'love & light'. I can sort them all out of my own and decide for myself where my mind should or should not be.
No Thought Police! Thank ya!

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Some former members have posted pornography. sometimes control is desirable.

Like this? http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=7737

Pornography had been used by the powers since the day of the first fotograph as a reason to censor for the children.

Are you sure they were "members" or just people that made a login to enable them to post ......

[nibiru]

Originally Posted by dvp14

i will tell you the reason i have asked them to please shut down my account. There are humans on here who think they are gods. They give out "spiritual information" and think that they are jesus incarnate. (no i'm not a christian, but i am trying to make a point) in the end i realize , socializing with myself and human beings is what is really going to help me grow and not this forum. This has worked for me so far. I do come here to read articles. I wish you peace.

you´ve got a point there...
That´s exactly what jesus,and all of the grand religions in the world say : You are cocreator gods/godesses...and the same miracles i do is what you can also do,and even greater things...
With all my respect i think you should do your homework and research,study,investigate...remember that when the student is ready the master teacher appears...
Fortunately many human beings are awakening to the knowledge and fact that we are not separate, we all are the unique conciousness, incarnated, manifestating... And the power that emanates from that fact is the one that many " polarized to the dark " humans want to erase from your mind and from your reality...
But it is a matter of spiritual evolution ... It is like a stair,where some go in the first step,others go in the fifth, and few go in the twentieth... But it is not a race, and it really doesn´t matter who reaches the final step and who does that in ten millions years...
There is a law , that says that the "older" brothers serve the "youngest"...
So listen to whom has travelled much further than yourself and your inner voice will tell you if they have shared a piece of the whole truth or not (of course you first have to learn how to listen to your inner self), and please, always use discernment...
THERE WILL BE A TIME IN THIS INCARNATION OR IN THE NEXT OR IN THE FOLLOWING THOUSANDS THAT EVERYTHING WILL CLICK IN YOUR INSIDE WORLD...THERE IS NO RUSH...TIME IS AN ILLUSION,PAST,PRESENT AND FUTURE COEXIST SIMULTANIOUSLY...
With 9d compassion
nibiru

[mike20]

The Fall

The fall off in participation is possibly because when the Bush regime was in power reality became so warped that exoplotics seemed very believable. Then, there is an election and the person with the most votes wins, which lends to the feeling that reality may be returning to “normal”. I don’t believe that. In my case I am fatigued from exploring this absurd reality in the abstract venue of the Internet. I am trying to spend as much time with real live humans or benevolent ET s as possible.

I have just started visiting site. I looked at it once or twice and it was a little overwhelming. Possibly I haven’t thoroughly explored it, but I haven’t seen much comment on the New Paradigm Handbooks themselves. This material has had a powerful positive effect on me. I sympathize with George Green. He seemed depressed that people don’t have the patience to get into the books. I have given away about thirty of them and not one person I gave them to has responded to them in the same way I did. I belong to a small group of people who have actually read the things and the material has also affected them so I know it is not just me who is attracted to this stuff.

I ran across a Paul Levy interview on this site. I thought it was very powerful. I prompted me to revisit Jung and there is a Jungian Society here and I have attended a meeting. I see the New Paradigm books as Myth, which does not diminish their truth but potentates it. If this Time is what many of think it is it makes sense that Myth will invade reality. I plan to take this lull in the action to explore my own depth. I can only blame myself for the misinformation I receive in that inquiry. I am going to gird up my loins.

I think this advice from Embracing the Rainbow is relevant.

“The focus must be more wholistic and include survival for service aimed at lifting the yoke of darkness and descending vibratory experience from humanity and the planet rather than focused on individual escape from the morass of a destructive situation. In other words there must be participation in the solution rather than using the information to abandon ship.” Pg. 4

[Jacqui D]

As with all new forums the excitement has now levelled and people have said their piece got things out in the open and now have not much else to say.
Also the last month October was a month of many observations that never took place.
One minute we were being told the financial crash would cause so many agenda's such as martial law on the streets, finding a new home for safety, food shortages etc;
Then we had the big ufo hoax which never happened, that was a big let down i might add you could feel the energy drop on the site because at last!! we finally wanted this to happen.
Then of course the American elections well that's it what next?
maybe some felt with no new info coming it it was not enough to feed their needs.
We must continue in this lull this peaceful time and reflect, the future well we will have to wait and see.
I have made some wonderful people on this site and will continue to be here and i still get that buzz like the first day when i joined.
I guess it's talking to all you guys i feel lucky that there are some many true hearts out there.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by SIR GALAHAD

Hi i don't know how many other people have noticed just lately how few there are of us on here has any body got any ideas as to why that is have they all been banned in the clean up thanks just a general question im throwing out .

In fact the answer is simpler.

"There is only one of us here."

A..

[macleodmunro]

One thing that annoys me is every time i get into a thread, and i'm enjoying reading peoples comments (like in this thread) an argument breaks out.

One person says something another doesn't like and the trading of insults begins.
This is becomming far too common. Maybe some members are put off by this, who knows.

I had hoped to find more understanding of LOVE on this forum, but maybe humanity's desire for conflict is too strong.

PEACE (please)

[Karen]

Originally Posted by macleodmunro

One thing that annoys me is every time i get into a thread, and i'm enjoying reading peoples comments (like in this thread) an argument breaks out.

One person says something another doesn't like and the trading of insults begins.
This is becomming far too common. Maybe some members are put off by this, who knows.

I had hoped to find more understanding of LOVE on this forum, but maybe humanity's desire for conflict is too strong.

PEACE (please)

Yes, Macleodmunro, I agree with you. The moderators had a 3.5 hour teleconference this morning and I brought up the topic of posting info and links to help people learn about more gentle communication skills.

Karen

Originally Posted by Karen

Yes, Macleodmunro, I agree with you. The moderators had a 3.5 hour teleconference this morning and I brought up the topic of posting info and links to help people learn about more gentle communication skills.

Karen

Hi Karen,

well, this sounds a great idea.. I for one hope this will bring about a much needed improvement, and hope this effort put into positive commnication styles will pay off for everyone... as even after the "clear-out" a week or two ago, there is still sometimes a level of communicating (by some, not all) which leaves quite a bit to be desired , my humble opinion.

This is what made me walk away a few weeks ago, not the content of the threads or ideas (even the ones I disagreed with), but the way they often demised into slanging matches, derision, sarcasm, sometimes outright verbal abuse and often really low-level ways of speaking to people... by some (not all) members, and also some (not trying to point any fingers here! ), not all, mods themselves........ I think this really might have put a lot of people off. It did me! I came back as I feel this is an important place to learn and share, even though still feeling rather wary.. sometimes feels like I'm treading on eggshells.. afraid of (unintentionally) setting off any verbal 'explosions' !

So.. I really do hope this will lead to a fresh re-start for Avalon, as it is a valuable site and I for one will stay for as long as the level/tone/style of communication remains positive, well-intentioned and peaceful ... whatever is being discussed and whoever is discussing it!

Maybe then more people will feel encouraged to post and stop lurking?!

Peaceful blessings!

[lilac]

Besides the Law of One and the Golden Rule, another wonderful communication tool that I try to use as a guide is the Four Agreements: Always do your best; Be impeccable with your word; Don't make assumptions; Don't take anything personally.

Conflict, mud-slinging and disagreement come from basic negative emotions like fear. In a place like this, where awareness is fairly high, valuable discussions could take place that would be helpful for ground crews who need first and foremost to GET ALONG.

So, starting on a level playing field, meaning that each and every voice is valued, I would love to hear other people's thoughts on a thread titled, "The Art of Not Taking Offense".

[nibiru]

Ground crew :
One of the main prerequisites for humankind when joining the galactic community is tolerance and respect towards other ways of embracing reality...each fillum has its own agenda to fulfll in the universal puzzle...when we human beings show respect to others we can expect respect for us...it is a natural "universal law: Do to others what you would like others to do to you.... Simple as that.
Show respect and you will also receive it... Don´t show it and prepare to be banned from this forum,from any forum...from any club,from any family...from anywhere...
Irrespectfull people have the right to express and exist, yes, tolerance is the clue...but please exist in some other universe...

[DoctorJac]

Originally Posted by Anchor

In fact the answer is simpler.

"There is only one of us here."

A..

Nice!!! Well, here we are.

[giovonni]

Greeting's Avalonians,
Remember, this forum is less than 3 months old. Its introduction, coincided with (and mirrored), the tailspinning events of our world's collasping socio-economic bubble. Now, with (elections, world reactions, and reality) all sinking in; a time of adjustment is the rule. Enlightenment, commands much attention, reflection and just plain hard work. Most here, I believe, are coming too understand, the reasons why they found their way here> to this forum. While, some have already run for the hills, others realize, there is still> much more sharing of info, love and encouragement to be gained. When the time comes, for each of us to move on, it will be realized. Until then, take advantage of this place, whether you fully agree or disagree with its rules and content. My best to all here, giovonni

And yes, more retreating within oneself (meditation) is the key for spiritual growth and our survival!