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Old 10-07-2008, 09:02 PM   #1
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There certainly is a difference between wanting to understand what is or might be going on so one can better prepare for it and thinking that you are only a pawn with no options or choices. After all, you don't want to be so heavenly minded that your no earthly good.

I for one, my be older but I am always willing to stand up for what I believe is right.

Let's not keep taking the low road but help each other rise above it with knowledge and a better understanding of where we are going as a part of the whole.
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:39 AM   #2
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No trust me you do NOT want to know it all... you just THINK you can handle it because of what you have heard



I aslo hope you al realise what a blow to the credibility of this site and many of those following the predictions will be afetr Oct 14th when the world is still here and there was no spaceship...

It will be hard to regain that credibility ... the 'next time'

And while all the Chicken Little's are running around screaming "The Sky is Falling"... it REALLY IS...

ASTEROID IMPACT--UPDATE: Asteroid 2008 TC3 hit Earth this morning, Oct. 7th, and exploded in the atmosphere over northern Sudan. An infrasound array in Kenya recorded the impact. Dr. Peter Brown of the University of Western Ontario has inspected the data and he estimates that the asteroid hit at 0243 UTC with an energy between 1.1 and 2.1 kilotons of TNT. Most of the 3-meter-wide space rock should have been vaporized in the atmosphere with only small pieces reaching the ground as meteorites.

http://spaceweather.com/ pick Oct 7th 2008
Zorgon.. there be spaceships now up in them there skies.

The 14th will be no different that any other day when there are spaceships in the sky.

Meaning the 14th won't be any different then any other day. Cheers
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:21 PM   #3
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Perhaps the solution is to start charging some money for it.

No, fighting fire with fire is never the solution. Money is used by the PTB to enslave the world's population as well as to keep us divided amongst ourselves. Should this site become a "pay only" site, that would cause further division because only those who could afford it would be able to be a part of the community. It's vitally important to not assist the dark ones in attaining their goals of "divide and conquer".

The true answer rests in keeping positive NO MATTER WHAT.

As for people cheering the coming crash of this diabolical system, I agree with Sunrunner. It's just that...cheering the end of the status quo. That's not the same as hoping that massive amounts of people begin to suffer (they already are, no?) In order for the Golden Age to be constructed, the old has to be DE-constructed. The current system in place needs to end for the new to begin. THAT is what is being cheered for. We want radical change. We want PEACEFUL radical change. And when these changes begin to take place, we naturally gear up for it because we WANT it to happen. There is nothing negative about it whatsoever.

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Old 10-07-2008, 08:43 PM   #4
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Yea, this forum is no longer a nice place to be. It has attracted a lot of self-serving parasites spreading dis-ease and darkness. The cleanup has really not changed anything. Perhaps the solution is to start charging some money for it. Most parasites would rather find some host that is "free".
They cleaned out the best people or rather the best wisely departed long ago. So you think it will help this forum if the host parasites start charging money to their audience? What a joke. Darkness and fear is what is being left here and the leaders of this pack are what is behind it.

Sure go ahead and charge people to enter this den. I think it is a great idea. Charge them dearly. The hosts will then attract the ignorant-wealthy which is a great combination for this forum. Maybe a few of those paying members will help pay to pollute the atmosphere of this planet some more. You know all that flying to and fro to interview people must help the environment tremendously. It is especially important to fly to Australia to interview people in the United States. I don't know what we could have done without those most recent interviews. My God they saved so many lives and brought so much more happiness to the world.

There you go. More positive comments for your thread. I wonder if this will get sensored by the nazis as well.
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:29 PM   #5
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I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!
LOL that's funny. At least we can laugh today.
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:49 PM   #6
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I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!
Realists have more to contemplate than sheeple.
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:49 PM   #7
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I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!
people with no life in this society wants a new one in their society, basically one based on medieval ideas. And they wish it to happen no matter if millions die, preferably, what this "light beings" call the sheep, or the slept. Welcome to the ****; that´s what´s this forum is all about. How spiritual and enlithtened it sounds, yea?.

This forum is starting to be another ****** Godlikeproductions, with all that fail everywhere, and those stupid date predictions, etctra.

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people with no life in this society wants a new one in their society, basically one based on medieval ideas. And they wish it to happen no matter if millions die, preferably, what this "light beings" call the sheep, or the slept. Welcome to the ****; that´s what´s this forum is all about. How spiritual and enlithtened it sounds, yea?.

This forum is starting to be another ****** Godlikeproductions, with all that fail everywhere, and those stupid date predictions, etctra.

This is one of the most ignorant posts that I've ever seen here on this messageboard. People with "no life" in this society. What exactly do you mean by that? And why do you assume that people want to live in a society based on medieval principles? That was essentially a totalitarian society with a caste system where thousands of "undesireables" were purged due to their religious/spiritual beliefs. Where do you get that we here want to live in such a culture? I don't get you.
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This is one of the most ignorant posts that I've ever seen here on this messageboard. People with "no life" in this society. What exactly do you mean by that? And why do you assume that people want to live in a society based on medieval principles? That was essentially a totalitarian society with a caste system where thousands of "undesireables" were purged due to their religious/spiritual beliefs. Where do you get that we here want to live in such a culture? I don't get you.

i mean what you know what i mean.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:45 PM   #10
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this is one of the most ignorant posts that i've ever seen here on this messageboard. People with "no life" in this society. What exactly do you mean by that? And why do you assume that people want to live in a society based on medieval principles? That was essentially a totalitarian society with a caste system where thousands of "undesireables" were purged due to their religious/spiritual beliefs. Where do you get that we here want to live in such a culture? I don't get you.
nice whitewolf......spoken with such eloquence......i´m so happy we have someone as grounded as your self on this forum......your eyes are wide open and your seeing clearly.......big hug to you......
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:11 PM   #11
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To the OP, you said yourself you were a bit afraid and now you prob feel like youve wasted energy because there was no major financial collapse. If you yourself paid close attention to Deagles visions, you'll see he only said something would happen today that would trigger a process. Its the way people reacted to it and i agree as I believe you mentioned this as well but you should know as well as most that its like Chinese whispers. Listen to the vids and audio, make your own mind up. Ignore the people who have gone overboard with dark predictions.

Secondly. It sounds like youre pretty content with the current system. Do you think we can change anything when its only 1 percent of us(population) that actually want the changes we speak about. Changes which result in no jobs, no income, massive economic and social change. Do you think for one minute that we have a chance of working towards this system without the current system taking major major hits.

The population only wake up when they are forced to wake up, not solely by us preaching a better world. all we are doing now is the equivalent of whispering at them when they are sitting there with the TV on loud with the odd minor advert that things just arent right for a few seconds then back to their normal viewing mode.

Camelot and Avalon discuss a new future and hidden knowledge from many angles. The world is corrupt, tricking the masses into believing we need fossil fuels and that paper money is backed and worth something. Do you expect us all to come here and focus on the good? What good? Where is the good? We are making movements positively but they are currently so small and miniscule that they currently dont matter.

You started this thread probably for a similar reason to when I had a moan that most people couldnt survive outside for 10 days because with my current planning Id have a hard time. I dont even have a box of matches Ive read most of the doom threads and talks and im no worse. After Deagles call I was ready to hit all my credit cards for transfers until I told myself its only a vision. Some people have taken it as if he said all banks in Europe will fall on the 7th, which he said nothing of a sort. You have been affected therefore feel the need to try and tip the scales somewhat away from the doomers. Do it yourself, hunt down the threads you like, glance the ones you dont. Give 1 star to the bad, 5 stars to the good.

We dont know the truth. We can barely understand why some banks have been left and some havnt, what the PTB want and what they dont or in what order, which countries first etc. You dont expect a positive forum to take place with so much unanswered 'bad' stuff....unanswered hence it is discussed to try and get us closer.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:37 PM   #12
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I really like the videos that Bill and Kerry have produced. I even made a small donation to help them continue what they are doing. But as for this forum I think it seems to be 80% reactionary gloom and doom postings. There are so many threads and currents of positive things happening out there: green diy projects, mycoremediation, meditation techniques, new music, conferences, healers, etc etc. The list goes on and on. Why isn't this place full of those kinds of things?

The new Zeitgeist movie spends most of its time talking about the problems we already know about and only interviews one group of problem solvers? The film is great, but I would have loved to see two hours of just pure enthusiastic solutions and ways for people to get involved.

I will continue to watch Project Camelot's wonderful videos, but I am not really interested in all the reactionary stuff getting posted here. The future I want to be a part of is not a reaction to the past but a new force of its own.
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:36 PM   #13
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I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!


I think it's hypocritical of you to come on a forum that represents change and then talk about how everything is okay as long as you can go home to your cold one. Pathetic.
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:41 PM   #14
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I think it's hypocritical of you to come on a forum that represents change and then talk about how everything is okay as long as you can go home to your cold one. Pathetic.
That didnt change anything...

And why whould you judge me for saying that, I serously doubt that you are free from all vices... You are adicted to all types of physical and emotional stimulants...

obvousley you are not much different than the rest of us by calling me names
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That didnt change anything...

And why whould you judge me for saying that, I serously doubt that you are free from all vices... You are adicted to all types of physical and emotional stimulants...

obvousley you are not much different than the rest of us by calling me names

I haven't called you any names and I wasn't talking about your vices.
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I serously doubt that you are free from all vices... You are adicted to all types of physical and emotional stimulants...
Bang on. I smoke like a chimney and drink coffee. And I'm REALLY glad I switched to decaf a couple of months ago...
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I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

No, you didn't start this thread to bad mouth one particular person, you started it to bad-mouth the forum - see your words above. You started this thread to bad-mouth those who take preparation seriously - see your words above.

"With your light sabre," please. Grow up.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:32 PM   #18
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No, you didn't start this thread to bad mouth one particular person, you started it to bad-mouth the forum - see your words above. You started this thread to bad-mouth those who take preparation seriously - see your words above.
I agree with Orion Morris that the glee that some of you are taking at the prospect of the collapse of society is mean spirited and very negative. That is not to say that the coming changes are unnecessary, or that we are not preparing. I AM preparing, I'm just not celebrating because I have a beautiful life now. And I'm not looking forward to seeing innocent people suffer.
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"I didnt want you to think that I was meaning the fourm itself...

I was meaning the messages that were being posted..
particularly the october 7th run for your life threads...

if you want to argue you with me then we can do it privatley to try and keep some intregrity left on the thread....

you also never answered my question
WHAT are YOU going to do to keep us safe in times of violence....

I responded to your other post with respect...
then you quote the OM and try to make me look like I was trying to sabitoge the fourm

from your message box this doesnt look like the first time you have attacked somebody."

I am struggling to find that integrity you speak of. When you publicly disagree with someone here it must be enlightened philosophy. When someone disagrees with you, it is an attack.

I am making preparations for food, relocation, defense, etc., for a minimum of ten people - my family and picking up folks along the way. I can't save everyone, or "save" anyone, but I can be prepared.

And "glee" is not part of the equation.
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Historycircus

I told you that if you want to argue with me we can do it private..

Then you go and post my private message to you publicly on the thread...

Thank you... that was very respectful...

I am not perfect... and I am not even close to one of the smartest people on this fourm.. I am probably not even as smart as you historycircus.. I run on emotions alot of the time, and I am aware that it is hard to keep a strait head when your thinking with your heart...

honestley you have offended me...

The only reason i started the thread was because I was feeling afraid for the people I love.. I didnt want to think about everybody dying anymore...
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"And "glee" is not part of the equation.
I was referring to this thread yesterday, plenty of glee there about the coming destruction:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4432
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A financial collapse doesnt mean watching kids starve to death. Sarah I just hope the next 12 months you get yourself ready because the system will come down and the longer you wait the harder we fall. whether it takes 6 months or three years.

But yeah orion you prob read my lengthy reply on page 2. i used to get overwhelmed trying to take in as much knowledge as possible to try and see the future. thats the problem, we all want to see the future so we look to people with more experience and hope they can guide us but its down to us to prepare and learn and not get caught up in the commotion.

Private messages being posted on the forum isnt a good look I agree
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Sarahmay,

I read the OM and first couple of posts on the thread you referenced, and I have to say, I fail to see the glee about destruction.

I think where the confusion lies is that we all know what is going to happen in terms of destruction and chaos if the system crashes. That is not what is exciting. What is exciting is that if the system crashes, we will finally have the opportunity to live lives outside of the paradigm that has been fed to us from cradle to grave, not for our well-being, but for the treasuries of governments and bank accounts of the wealthy. Here is a question a I have posted before: is there really any difference between the chaotic unorganized death and destruction engendered by the collapse of the system, or the orderly, well choreographed death and destruction upon which the system operates? No one is celebrating the potential horrors that collapse will bring, they are celebrating the potential for freedom.
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"i,m really looking forward to this crash......let the adventure begin.....!!!!!!! wahooo......althentic life here we come ....!!!!! less talking and more crashing.......for me it´s a releaf not a scare........can i get an amen brothers and sisters.....
peace out......the force is within you !!!!!!"

This is a direct quote from the first post of the thread. Sounds like glee to me.

Once again, I think changes are necessary. I am prepared. I just don't think we need to act like giddy 12 year old boys playing war games--it is serious, it is painful, it is grave.

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thanks orion for posting my shared view.... whow, you aint half receiving some aggressive backfire for trying to place an extremely valid point.....
and yes, it is more frightening than watching the news... but so will it be with whats to come... so for all those positive thinkers with higher vibration, expecting to rise above the inevitable......cause and effect.....

the world is created on the number 2 , 1 and 1 cause and effect
i wonder how positive we will feell if we are saved through higher vibration....and no karma to have too deal with, as if, yet wittnessing around us,,, care free maybe....unbeleivable traumatic,karmas unfolding

surely... positive thinkers are still human and imperfect....and have done much wrong, in this life/past...else face it....these souls wouldnt be here.....

allow me to try relay my points.... if i bimbled along this life with thaughts and hopes of what to come..totally positive...and good to people......yet 2 lives ago, i murdered my neighbour.....but hadnt yet paid my debt...nothing gona avoid my having to..
.i may have that to pay in these soulcleansing times to come....i may been that murdered neighbour in the last life, and this life....even have to be the partner of a victim to learn the suffering caused to those left behind...and watch the trauma unfolding in my children, ripple effect, etc
ripple effect etc ripple effect etc,and plenty more for all others affected by the loss i creaTEDin last/other life.....
and thaT May only be one of many many karmic debts to pay

thats not negative but an reality example to make a point. we have all managed to hurt feelings in deep ways even unnoticed...
you cant be a soul in a human form and avoid it....
sometimes we cause pain so very deeeeeeep that it goes deeeper than the pain of loss/death
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so... PTs...Positive thinkers....when you have to face your personal karmas in the coming soul cleansing events....
we cant avoid our karma no matter what preparation we make wether material or vibrational.....how positive might you all be then.....there is no positive without a negative.... else it wouldnt be called positive ...an opposite
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