Obama is a fraud

[Phtha]

Originally Posted by Anchor

It certainly won't if everyone thinks this way.

Obama, if a puppet, is just as easily your puppet and can easily be an agent for the change you want.

Your universe is yours you know - make it so.

A..

Not to be disagreeable but I disagree. We don't need to look outside to these so called leaders for change. That's what got us in the mess.

The Universe doesn't do politics.

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

Originally Posted by Phtha

we don't need anyone to tell us how to live and what to believe.Our soul does a great job of that if we listen to it! But the system makes us polarize to ego.I know its hard to see, but if government would just go away, along with the police, the health care system, education institutions, and the whole 9 yards, we the human race would be so much more productive, peaceful, educated, and rich with abundance. The whole system is made to produce scarcity and to make us believe we need these laws for protection while at the same time forcing us into violence through poverty and media trickery, among other things.

It's all a sham. Rise above it consciously so you can see the whole picture, and you can't deny it! Stop looking for help in Washington, cuz it ain't coming from there, it never was and it never will be ....

this really is the point. Its a tough pill to swallow, but it isn't about sides anymore, this system is rotten to the core...lets pull our fingers out of the cracks and let this damn dam go...

Originally Posted by Phtha
we don't need anyone to tell us how to live and what to believe.Our soul does a great job of that if we listen to it! But the system makes us polarize to ego.I know its hard to see, but if government would just go away, along with the police, the health care system, education institutions, and the whole 9 yards, we the human race would be so much more productive, peaceful, educated, and rich with abundance. The whole system is made to produce scarcity and to make us believe we need these laws for protection while at the same time forcing us into violence through poverty and media trickery, among other things.

It's all a sham. Rise above it consciously so you can see the whole picture, and you can't deny it! Stop looking for help in Washington, cuz it ain't coming from there, it never was and it never will be ....

I agree with this in theory, but the reality is that private industry controls all these factions. How do you propose we do away with them?

[mntruthseeker]

Some say get out and fight and we can see in the past that this has been tried...........some say pray and meditate and we can see in the past that this has been tried.

I seriously thing together it will work. We will bring peace into our world, we are suppose to have the 1000 years of peace and I'm ready for it

I know together we will do this. We will make it work and if that means our issues have to be put aside and work together. It is about the human race and it's worth fighting for.

So the news on the internet is necessary and we must listen with our souls and go from there. Just like you say.

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

Originally Posted by sleepingnomore

[B] How do you propose we do away with them?

Stop giving them your attention. Passive Non-Compliance. Ignore them. Get enough people to ignore them and what can they do? Imagine the march in London a couple months ago... if instead of everyone marching on Parliament if all those people decided NOT to pay their taxes this year. Or show up for court dates. No violence, just passive non-compliance. They can't control us without US believing they can. If you are against them, you validate them. If you play on THEIR chessboard, you validate them.

[Anchor]

Here is an alternative perspective:

Originally Posted by http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=478&Item id=70

LOTS OF THINGS TO REPORT IN WORLD EVENTS

I find it unfortunate how many people are still being taken in by the virulently negative material in the conspiracy media. For the record, I do not consider Obama a saint nor a savior. I consider him the first President since Kennedy who is actually doing his job and trying to make things better for our planet.

As I’ve said before, the conspiracy media is saturated with propaganda to an unheard-of extreme. I have undeniable proof of this which I have not yet released, saving it for the right time, but I have decided that I will do so within a very short timeframe after returning from Canada — not more than two weeks.

This proof shows how it’s done, the enormous money being spent on it, what they write, who does it, and includes a whistleblower statement from someone who was actually hired on one of these jobs during the election. It is shocking.

LIKE A RELIGION

Unfortunately, the hate is so thick in the Internet world that it has become like a religion. Some of the followers are becoming violent and it may be inevitable that Obama will be assassinated.

I certainly hope not, but no one can guarantee anything at this point, given the sheer number of people who want it, including all the old guard whom are being attacked and dismantled by the new administration.

The points I bring up, which require reading through multiple past entries of David’s Blog to understand, are ignored or brushed aside by almost every critic who comes to us.

Almost everyone who writes me and criticizes the administration brings up the exact same arguments. It’s largely an emotional decision and no one can really argue or dispute the facts I include — they must simply be ignored or diverted back to the same old arguments. I’ve already given many more pieces of data that show a side completely counter to those arguments.

OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION IS VERY FAR FROM PERFECT

This is far from a perfect situation. The old guard still infects the system. It is far from over and simple fear and threats have undoubtedly stopped certain things from happening as fast as they otherwise would.

You cannot attack this situation with a ‘wish list’ of every change you want to see and then get upset when many of them have not happened yet. The scope of change that must occur is enormous, and will take time to complete even under the best of circumstances. Nor is it my job to address people’s individual letters of attack.

I am nonetheless shocked to see how the entire conspiracy media has completely condemned this administration, thanks to the propaganda they read as gospel truth, and must increasingly ignore and overlook very reliable data to maintain their opinions.

How do you get someone who hates that deeply to open their mind? Unfortunately, you often don’t. Personally and professionally I will continue sharing what I see and feel, but I do not feel responsible to attempt to convince the many who do not want to be convinced, and therefore do not choose to see an alternative perspective.

The degree of propaganda in the alternative conspiracy media is extremely severe. People who think they are very smart, and right on the cutting edge, are getting their information straight from the Pentagon and the NSA, and the leaders of this movement aren’t even aware of it. In time we will see the humor and tragedy in all of this.

They key, of course, is that hate begets hate. You don’t paint people in black-and-white portraits. No one is truly a good person or truly a bad person. No situation is All Bad nor All Good. We grow in steps. This administration is taking us many steps forward.

The majority of people who ARE inside these negative groups actively want to get out and turn a new leaf. Yet the hatred has risen to such an extreme that if anyone dared try to get out, and do the right thing for humanity, they would be killed. I consider this to be pathetic and tragic to an extreme.

DISENGAGING FROM CONSPIRACY MEDIA

I have basically disengaged from the conspiracy media. I do not want, nor need, to read so many people who all adopt the same sarcastic, victimized, hopeless, doom-and-gloom, mad-as-hell viewpoint. I do not need to feel like I’m the member of some elite group that has gotten that way by knowing who to hate. Or thinking they know.

I now find that the best data is coming in from sources like Huffington Post and Digg.com. There you have people who still have an objective view because they are not inundating themselves with the propaganda-infected conspiracy media.

There you actually read facts that are not simply the hand-picked choices that focus on the negative, using ‘psychic driving’ to repeat the same lies and slanderous accusations until they become Truths in the reader’s mind.

SAYING ONE THING, MEANING ANOTHER… ON PURPOSE

Another important thing to realize is that Obama’s people are playing a political field that is very delicate and complex. It is increasingly obvious that they must mobilize sufficient public intensity to build up to changes that they cannot directly suggest on their own.

Hence, statements will be made that are obviously false, in the hopes that enough people who know the truth will get ****** off and mobilize to do something about it. A recent example is when Obama said "Al-Queda killed 3000 people on 9/11" in his address to the Muslim world.

If enough people KNOW it’s not true, then they get upset, create an uprising, and the truth comes out. That’s how the game MUST be played. Otherwise you will be eaten alive by the opposition. Look at the ridiculous attempts of Sarah Palin to try to take down David Letterman, one of the great American comics, over a single joke that was in poor taste.

Don’t forget that Obama met with two 9/11 widows in private. You can bet that the rooms in the White House are tapped, and the opposition recorded and documented whatever they discussed.

It’s very likely that they were planning on re-opening 9/11 hearings and bringing out undeniable evidence that it was not simply Muslim terrorists. These two women took a plane flight together a week later and the plane then went down under very suspicious circumstances. Past entries of David’s Blog made the case convincingly.

Air France was a similar ‘hit,’ it would seem, and I will spell out exactly who appears to have done it and why. It appears to be a direct hit against France by the British Illuminati, in response to the ‘snub’ of Queen Elizabeth from attending D-Day festivities. The bright flash of light that was reported is consistent with technology that can destroy electronics.

[Phtha]

So according to wilcock anyone who disagrees with Obama is doom and gloom and sees no hope for the future? hmmm for the record I see nothing but peace on the horizon, I just don't see it coming from Washington...

Wilcock also just clumpled the whole alternative media scene into one pile in this article. I guess that means Wilcock himself is also doom and gloom... but apparentely thinks he is the only alternate sources who is on target? I get alarm bells anytime anyone starts down this road. Whats more is he also clumped the majority of us in the same pile if we don't agree with him...

Sorry just don't buy it. Wilcock made some good points though. To many people are also looking to Alex, and Wilcock, and others as the savior and blindly believe anything they say as well. But from what I've seen many people are well aware that both sides do there fair share of fear mongering.

Alex, Wilcock, Rense, and all other sources have a part to play and all have done much good as well.

IMO Wilcock and others are playing the old divide and conquer routine, unwittingly maybe?
We cannot be conquered unless we are divided. This goes for the alternative truth movement as well. There is a reason why pretty much every alternative source is pitted against each other.... step way back and take a good look.

And HJ you don't know me so please don't insult me just because my opinion is different then your own...
I'm just sharing my opinion and not trying to spark your anger.

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Phtha

So according to wilcock anyone who disagrees with Obama is doom and gloom and sees no hope for the future? hmmm for the record I see nothing but peace on the horizon, I just don't see it coming from Washington...

Wilcock also just clumpled the whole alternative media scene into one pile in this article. I guess that means Wilcock himself is also doom and gloom... but apparentely thinks he is the only alternate sources who is on target? I get alarm bells anytime anyone starts down this road. Whats more is he also clumped the majority of us in the same pile if we don't agree with him...

Sorry just don't buy it. Wilcock made some good points though. To many people are also looking to Alex, and Wilcock, and others as the savior and blindly believe anything they say as well. But from what I've seen many people are well aware that both sides do there fair share of fear mongering.


Thank you for this. I totally agree with much of what you say. Wilcock said a long time ago how he felt about Obama and he will not back off his sentiments which is fine. So be it. It doesn't prove any body else can not. I for one have.

I also say that from all that I am learning and alot to people in this room and some inner thoughts, that we all do have a role and yes, many are doing just that. They are fullfilling their path what ever it may be.



Alex, Wilcock, Rense, and all other sources have a part to play and all have done much good as well.

IMO Wilcock and others are playing the old divide and conquer routine, unwittingly maybe?
We cannot be conquered unless we are divided. This goes for the alternative truth movement as well. There is a reason why pretty much every alternative source is pitted against each other.... step way back and take a good look.

And HJ you don't know me so please don't insult me just because my opinion is different then your own...
I'm just sharing my opinion and not trying to spark your anger.

Thank you for sharing that opinion. It says alot. I too enjoy being heard without worrying about the anger it may spark. David Wilcox was all for Obama and said right from the start Obama is the "one" so he would say all of this. He reminds me of my husband who thinks he knows it all too.

We shall see

I like to think I'm right too but I am not all the time so I wont go there

I will not let it bother me if people disagree with me but I sure do not want to step on any toes either. It is something that I try hard to avoid.

[Phtha]

Exactly. Fighting and even protesting against them is still adding energy to the effects not the causes. And when you get down to the bottom of it, it seems to me the cause is the one that stares back at you in a mirror.

Originally Posted by Cymatic Veilbegone

Stop giving them your attention. Passive Non-Compliance. Ignore them. Get enough people to ignore them and what can they do? Imagine the march in London a couple months ago... if instead of everyone marching on Parliament if all those people decided NOT to pay their taxes this year. Or show up for court dates. No violence, just passive non-compliance. They can't control us without US believing they can. If you are against them, you validate them. If you play on THEIR chessboard, you validate them.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

This is part of what makes these forums a hostile place for those that don't share (what appears to be) a majority opinion of hate/hostility towards Obama.

Speaking for myself only, this forum is a place for me to reach out to others in an attempt to do my small part to try to save my country. It is impossible to do so without facing facts about what is going on with the Federal government. Hate and hostility has nothing to do with facing facts.

The situation we’re in is that one of the reasons so many people are unaware of the crisis we face is that they are duped by the programming techniques that we are subjected to.

The issue of Obama’s citizenship is one that relates to the deception practiced by the handlers who put him in office.

This is what we’re dealing with across the board: deception on a massive scale. And if we don’t wise up to it, we’re going to be ushered into the New World Order.

[NeoEmc2]

People actually believe this?

Yea lets figure out if he committed fraud when he was in college, many many years AFTER he becomes president, then we'll get rid of him...

RUN OBAMA, RUN!

Come back to earth people.